Kentucky Derby handcapping chat with Steven Crist

DRF Staff|May 06, 2011

DRFDerby	Welcome to tonight's Kentucky Derby and Oaks handicapping chat. We'll be talking with Steven Crist starting at 7pm
LucindaWalsh100	Can't wait!
wmspt	When will we know the final word on Uncle Mo ?
Anthony Aiello	friday
Tony Viscardo	i think by tomorrow morning
thegreeser	What are your thoughts on Mucho Macho?
Joe	this is gonna be cool
DRFDerby	Thursday night or Friday morning, according to Mo's owner
Steve Tessino	Thanks for nthe chat Steve - Hope Dondo and Junior are well.
wmspt	I hope he scratch's, i don't want him to beat me
Tony Viscardo	cold exacta ?
bsmath	Mucho Macho hasn't been in any G1 Stakes
DRFDerby	The transcripts for the first two chats will be available sometime after this chat
Tony Viscardo	great I was wondering where last nights was
wmspt	Ark derby top two
Joe	i tried watching on the versus channel yesterday the live draw and all I got was sound, did anyone else have a problem getting a picture?
Karen Martin	that's not my pic on profile, its my mom ( she died young )and its her birthday today.
cscinsurance1	i saw it online
Tony Viscardo	w with post 1 ?????
cscinsurance1	but not tv
Karen Martin	joe my versus was ok
Tony Viscardo	saw it on HRTV
wmspt	i love it , odds will be great
Tony Viscardo	the best horse racing chan
DRFDerby	Transcripts of the previous chats will be posted later tonight
1stsaturdaymay	Steve, do you downgrade any OAKS runners based on the draw?
Joe	glad to see churchill track is drying out, tired of having an off track year after year
Ianveitch	Steve, I say throw out Mo and use DI as key with arch, thirsty, midnight, shack and nehro. What say you?
Kelly Fineis	Hello All! Happy DERBY!
Tony Viscardo	every year a longshot gets 2nd
Karen Martin	Dialed, Midnight, Mucho
Josh Atkinson	Archx3 won't far any better than lookin at lucky did last year
wmspt	imo , dialed in is to slow!
cscinsurance1	small horse in big field might be a problem
bsmath	Steven isn't here for six minutes.
Tony Viscardo	i hate that post 1
Sanjay Bhartia	yeah I think DI is a bet against
cscinsurance1	i agree with wmspt
Joe	i like your 3 karen, add shack as your 4th and you have my superfecta
DRFDerby	Steven Crist will be joining us at 7pm to talk Derby and Oaks handicapping
hayduke	I need rain for my Soldat futures bet at 66-1.
Tony Viscardo	feeding the dogs
Karen Martin	who is Hammered Hank picking?
DRFDerby	or any races on Churchill's Friday and Saturday cards
SB9GAMER	anyone in Lousiville w/ an updated Derby Day forecast?
Josh Atkinson	wise dan in the alysheba at 15-1
Karen Martin	will do Joe
cscinsurance1	noaa says 40% chance of rain
Tony Viscardo	he never wins
wmspt	i want his job
Steve Tessino	Stay Thirstys last was ugly, but I think he sits the trip with the inside horses dropping back and outside gunning. His chances and value?63
Karen Martin	yeah, give us Hank's bank!
cscinsurance1	mike welsch does a fantastic job!!!
Tony Viscardo	yes Mike does
Roger Cripps	Good evening Steve. What is your gut feeling about Uncle Mo running or a no go?
Tony Viscardo	Any chance P Val runs away ?
Plans4College	ST's last was ugly but they put blinkers on him...now the blinkers are off.
Josh Atkinson	i have mixed feelings about mike
1stsaturdaymay	I read mike's workout report card, I don't think he particularly liked any of the contestants
cat thief	anyone know how the turf course is?
MrTokesalot	any early track bias?
cscinsurance1	mo scratches
James	Santiva
Josh Atkinson	his reports are sometimes conflicting
Jackie Bushore	i think they'll scratch mo
Sanjay Bhartia	pval may hang on for a super placing but i can't see that horse getting the dist
cscinsurance1	@1stsatnmay, it's a weak crop
Karen Martin	mo will be no mo
Roger Cripps	Me too from what I have heard
Josh Atkinson	CTTT won't get the 1 1/4 miles
cscinsurance1	maybe they'll all run dead last
Terry smith	Lets see Mike picked Barbaro and loved Rachel if she ran in the derby
Joe	if mo does run, which i dont think he will, he will be a good play against, bad PP and not healthy enough to compete
Jackie Bushore	i think nehro's got it with the extra distance he didnt have in the louisiana and arkansas
cscinsurance1	we all get our $ back in 20 horse photo less take
Karen Martin	who would you toss out of this race?
stunner81	Mucho Macho Man wins!!!
Tony Viscardo	1/2 the horses
Jackie Bushore	watch me go
Josh Atkinson	pletcher said if the derby would be running tomarrow mo would run
Jackie Bushore	no chance
RX	stay thirsty
DRFSteven_Crist	Good evening and thanks to everyone for coming.
Mickey Micklaus	I find this Derby Chat format a bit overwhelming.
gomezj323	Auto toss post 1
RX	how is the weather going to be tomorrow
1stsaturdaymay	Tosses - Uncle Mo, Derby Kitten, Master of Hounds, Brilliant Spped etc etc
DRFDerby	Welcome everyone - Steven Crist has joined us on the chat - let's start by going over his picks for the Derby
gomezj323	evening
Tony Viscardo	hey Steve
DRFSteven_Crist	My top Derby picks, which were due Wednesday right after the draw, were Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat...
RX	why is post 1 bad
DRFSteven_Crist	Obviously I was not pleased to read today that now they're not certain Uncle Mo will even start...
Jackie Bushore	toss them all and give us a stronger crop of 3 year olds
DRFSteven_Crist	Obviously I was not pleased to read today that now they're not certain Uncle Mo will even start...
DRFSteven_Crist	Obviously I was not pleased to read today that now they're not certain Uncle Mo will even start...
Sanjay Bhartia	Steve- are you against all the turf/synthetic horses as per usual?
James	Steve, can you explain the trainer changes for Soldat?
DRFSteven_Crist	If Mo starts, I'll still include him but this isn't the way you want to see a horse come into the Derby.
Tony Viscardo	No Dialed In Steve?
Bob Decelle	steve what did you like about master of hounds??
Josh Atkinson	@ RX watch last years derby
Mike	Jeff Bonde is a great trainer with young horses, what do you think of his chances with Twice The Appeal, especially with improving Beyers?
gomezj323	If he does start, do you throw him out?
Karen Martin	why Master? not fond of him
Joe	surprised you like mo steve, he just doesn't look himself
RX	mo too unpreditable
Tony Viscardo	Surprised no DI
RX	anyone know wht the wether will be
Sanjay Bhartia	well i guess you like MOH so not totally...
Tony Viscardo	Master has the linage of derby winners and gomez
Josh Atkinson	@ RX 40% chance of showers
bsmath	Master is a turf horse
cscinsurance1	40% chance of rain
1stsaturdaymay	Steve, what's your strongest A in the derby undercard? Particularly the pick 4 into the derby?
DRFSteven_Crist	On Macho -- I like him, I picked him second. Ran well at 2 despite being huge colt who hadn't figured things out...
Joe	Dialed in always fires and has a good PP, if de doesnt win he will at least be in the mix
RX	thanks
DRFSteven_Crist	I loved his Risen Star and give him a pass for the Louisiana Derby
phil	When is Churchill Downs going to allow also eligibles for the KY Derby
Karen Martin	100% chance of ugly hats
Roger Cripps	Hi Steve, If Mo scratches for sure, who would you replace him with in my Oaks/Derby double, I already have4,8,10,13 and 17.
RX	are smaller horses better
James	give us the rundown on Pants On Fire
DRFSteven_Crist	On Master of Hounds -- Normally I would toss him but this is a spotty Derby field. I think you have to creative.
Joe	I like pants on fire PP, could hit the board but don't think will win
Tony Viscardo	macho makes for a good story
Joe	I have him ranked #5
Steve Tessino	What about Thirsty Steve. I think Ramon will be able to get position in the first turn, and think the Fl race is a toss
Terry smith	Steve What about Animal Kingdom?
Tony Viscardo	one of the worst crop of 3 yr ever .
Mickey Micklaus	Yes, what ABOUT Animal Kingdom?
cscinsurance1	lol @karen martin
Buddy Yingling	Master of Hounds won't even be in the money.
DRFSteven_Crist	On stay thirsty -- Even if you toss his FLA Derby I think he has to improve a lot off his Gotham to be competitive.
Tony Viscardo	this is what poly has given us
stunner81	Summer Soiree and Daisy Devine in the Oaks
Karen Martin	steve on 50 cent tri- is that only straight bets? ie, does it apply to wheels/boxes or not?
Steve Tessino	Soldat had a tough trip lto, but I don't trust Garcia to get him out of the gate
Buddy Yingling	Soldat and Uncle Mo are only horses with a 100+ Beyer
Buddy Yingling	Anybody who hasn't broken 95 Beyer is suspect.
Jackie Bushore	Steve, how about Archarcharch in the 1 hole?
DRFSteven_Crist	Throw outs? I'm not sold on the fave..Dialed In's a nice horse but maybe no better than ones who will be 3x the price
Tony Viscardo	Arch was my horse is it over w the 1 hole
bsmath	Stay Thirsty has Kentucky Derby pedigree
stunner81	If its real sloppy, I make a big bet on Soldat
cat thief	Steve, what do you make of Soldat, he's one of your 4?
Joe	I would have strongly considered master of hounds if they would have gotten him here 2 wks ago to get him some works over the CD track.
William H. Davis	What about MI for 2nd or 3rd
Sanjay Bhartia	Hey Steve I'm taking the view that Brilliant Speed's dirt races were poor b/c he was clearly a slow developer and not incapable. Thoughts?
James Cary	Steve: I wonder about Soldats ability to get the distance, am I off base here
RX	sloppy how about shakelford
Roger Cripps	I was thinking Baffert's horse, Midnight Interlude to replace Uncle Mo if scratched in my O/D double.
1stsaturdaymay	Who are your OAKS picks? I'm against Joyful, love the horse on the outside by the post is a concern.
Buddy Yingling	Soldat ran a 103 Beyer in the slop at a mile and eighth, he can get the distance
DRFSteven_Crist	Strongest A in Derby undercard stakes is Hilda's Passion in the Humana.
bsmath	Soldat will do good if it rains I hear.
John Gamble	Looking at Soldat, Midnite Interlude, and Animal Kingdom for my ex box
Josh Atkinson	how do you feel about shackleford?
Arturo Laguna	sat weather forecast 30% precpitation,73degrees
James	Steve- Case against Nehro?
Tony Viscardo	an idea for future derbies only earnings that count are DIRT earnings . this is a joke
Karen Martin	Dialed In/ Animal kingdom exacta? my birthday numbers, 8-16. any chance?
DRFSteven_Crist	On Soldat -- I'm not sold on his getting the distance but I think he has a world of talent
cscinsurance1	Steve, who was your last derby winner pick?
Steve Tessino	@James - Nehro is due to bounce after two big efforts. Oh...wrong Steve?
Anthony Aiello	who are your top 3 for the oaks ?
stunner81	Soldat didn't seem to care for the heat
cat thief	Steve, what do you make of Soldat's last...I have a hard time forgiving that one
DRFSteven_Crist	Archarcharch -- the 1-hole doesn't bother me that much because I expect him to make one run from way back...
DRFSteven_Crist	I think he's going to be a little over-bet at 8-1/10-1.
Alex Remington	Hi Steve, since there's so much sameness to the field, would you perhaps put more emphasis on post position in your selections?
cscinsurance1	steve, your thoughts on Nehro?
Terry smith	any comment on animal kingdom?
Tracy	At least organized
Tony Viscardo	arch was working the best
DRFSteven_Crist	Nehro -- I don't like that he was in perfect position to win his last 2 and didn't.
Jackie Bushore	I want to hear about Nehro and Animal Kingdom, too.
John Gamble	.Steve, Thanks for chatting with us tonight. How would you rate the prep races as they relate to the Derby?
Tony Viscardo	why would u not use him steve
bigcoumbe	Steve, is ZAZU a major player tomorrow, or are figs inflated due to SA surface?
DRFSteven_Crist	In the Oaks, I'm leaning towards the western fillies, Zazu and Plum Pretty. Think R Heat Lightning was best of them
Roger Cripps	I have a feeling big longshot in th Oaks, Im going with the all
James	one more steve. i hear that Santiva had his wolf teeth removed. does this set him up for a big effort?
cscinsurance1	but you like uncle mo? he was in perf position to. no?
Sanjay Bhartia	St.John's River!
bigcoumbe	Steve, I'm really starting to like SHACK in the derby. win over the track, has rated previously, and a neck seperates
RX	how about posts on the outside
DRFSteven_Crist	Better to bet exotics or tris/supers? That's totally a matter of personal preference.
stunner81	Steven, what do you think MMM's odds will go off at?
phil	thinking this is a weak crop..best horse mo is less than 100%
DRFSteven_Crist	Play whichever you think you're best at...
Jackie Bushore	Steve, how do you feel about Watch Me Go? Does he even deserve to be in this field?
Kevan Smotherman	Steve, which Mineshaft closer do you like better to fill out the bottom of my greyhound style exotic wheel, Nehro or Dailed?
DRFSteven_Crist	If you're usually a super player, remember there's a $1 min. Oaks/Derby Day instead of $0.10.
MrTokesalot	If western fillies win Oaks, do you put more emphasis on SA Derby?
DRFSteven_Crist	Maybe consider 50-cent tris instead.
RX	what about all those outside posts is that bad
hayduke	Steve - could you identify the horses in your responses. Because of the chat format, sometimes hard to know whose question you're responding
DRFSteven_Crist	You can get the whole betting menu on my blog
Karen Martin	but can you box on .50 tris or just straight bets?
gomezj323	If Uncle Mo does run, is he still on top of your list?
Joe	I'm still high on Nehro and think he can win from the 19 post. Your thoughts on him please.
cscinsurance1	serve me up something exotic, Steven
RX	u can box
John Gamble	box
Karen Martin	thanks
RX	i dont see how a horse could win from post 19
cat thief	Steve, who moves up if a T-shower hits?
wmspt	Big brown won from 20
Bob	19 ? See Big Brown .....
Sanjay Bhartia	the 50cent tri is good news for those that don't feel like going broke
DRFSteven_Crist	The tri minimum is 50 cents whether straight or boxed
bigcoumbe	RX. Big brown won from 20..
DRFDerby	We're chatting with DRF's Steven Crist until 8 pm on handicapping the Derby and Oaks cards
Ianveitch	Steve, now that you know the latest regarding mo, are you still going to use him? seems a bad bet to me.
Buddy Yingling	Exotics will pay big in this one I think.
RX	what post are usually in it
Ken Hendrix	midnite had the fastest mile and eighth
Michael Schwarzkopf	There seems to be a lot of speed in the race, would you favor a speed type over a closer. Does it make sense to group them in pick 3's etc
Anthony Aiello	what do you think about her smile and st. johns
bigcoumbe	thoughts on SHACK. win over track. has rated before. a neck behind the fav....
stunner81	Stevie, who do you like in the Oaks???
Mickey Micklaus	Yes, Shackleford thoughts, please.
David Korst	We played a nice 5 horse/7 horse/10 horse 50 cent tri for $120
DRFSteven_Crist	Animal Kingdom and Brilliant Speed -- I can't take them off their poly races...
gomezj323	@Ken - Fastests on an extremely fast SA track
DRFSteven_Crist	I always assume these horses are on poly because they didn't train well on dirt.
Jamie Milligan	What about BO-RAIL on the 3?
dagenhamdon	Has anyone won from the 1st post position?
Kelly Fineis	Love Shack..but the Storm Cat jinx?
Tony Viscardo	if calvin wins on this donkey I give up
RX	how was the track today
Jamie Milligan	Can you tell me more about Track Bias at CD Steve?
stunner81	Bo-Rail is riding a donkey. No chance.
phil	if we use mr spock-like logic, shackleford because of his fine work over the surface has to be used
DRFSteven_Crist	Shackleford -- if he couldn't last at 9.5 on a speed track, I can't see him getting 10 with more speed in the race.
John Gamble	fast as lightning
Tony Viscardo	I still say dialed in runs by them ALL
RX	maybe 3rd or 4th for calvin
Barry R	FAST AND FIRM
bigcoumbe	steve, you like PLUM in the Oaks, do you think she can wire....appears to be pace to keep her honest.
RX	dialed got a good post
Buddy Yingling	true about Borel on the 3, eh Steve? Donkey?
Barry R	SPEED HELD VERY WELL
Max Worth	Mo and Dialed In are the only legit horses
AnonSkiLawProf	thoughts on Midnight Interlude? Improving at the right time?
Sanjay Bhartia	Calvin has obviously become overrated in KDs but I have a bad feeling the donkey may sneak in for a piece!
RX	so closers are going to win this race
DRFSteven_Crist	Twice the Appeal -- no shot at all. His Sunland Derby was the same day...
Tony Viscardo	i agree max
cscinsurance1	mo and DI are bets against
DRFSteven_Crist	as the Sunland Oaks and Plum Pretty ran much faster.
Barry R	EVERY PREP HAS BEEN A BOMB ,,,WHY NOT THE BIG ONE????
David Korst	Uncle Mo is a toss!!
Bob	Mo is overhyped like Bandini was
RX	mo is sick anyways
DRFDerby	If you're just joining us, Steve's Oaks picks are Zazu and Plum Pretty
RX	he a pooing
wmspt	BRILLIANT
Tony Viscardo	i agree bout Mo but not Di
stunner81	Stevie, thoughts on Daisy Devine?
Sanjay Bhartia	SPEED
RX	decisve moment
DRFDerby	In the Derby Steve's selections after the draw were Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat
Troy Mix	Any advice on how to differentiate the synthetic preps? How does Keeneland's course play vs. Turfway's?
Max Worth	Soldat if it's muddly
wmspt	YES
cscinsurance1	DI is too slow of a closer. there are better
cscinsurance1	or faster closers
David Korst	Dialed in will be in the tri.................AAA is a toss too
DRFSteven_Crist	Top Preps? The five G1 preps were all sub-par... they were decided by two necks, two heads, and a nose...
Jamie Milligan	What about Track Bias at CD?
Tony Viscardo	Steve thoughts on P VAL ?
Jackie Bushore	I want to hear about Watch Me Go.
wmspt	DRUGY
Tony Viscardo	Yes but they were GD 1's
TonyP_68	does arch3 have a shot breaking form post 1
cscinsurance1	di=dialed in 4:1 ML
Bob	Watch me lose... If you bet him
AnonSkiLawProf	what about Midnight Interlude?
bsmath	DI is Dialed In
Bob	he is so so cheap
stunner81	Anybody? Thoughts on Daisy Devine?
Justin Brownstein	Steve can you rank the following horses after post from your fave to least fave: Mucho, Midnight, Nehro, Soldat, Animal kingdom, Pants on Fi
Shaman Krauss	albarado ok on animal?
John Gamble	5th best filly in the race
David Korst	Midnight Interlude will run good.........Baffert has them ready
Sanjay Bhartia	yes daisy devine is a play
Kelly Fineis	Im all in on Daisy!
Clocker	To be honest, this Derby field might have only a handful of grade I talent
Mark	Dialed In looks good, especially since the 5,6,&7 horses to his inside are the rabbits
Kevan Smotherman	lose this format, I'm here to hear the comments of a pro handicapper and author not a bunch of bozo's.
DRFSteven_Crist	Watch me Go -- won a terrible Tampa Derby. None of his 10 races put him in the ballpark.
Ken Hendrix	daisy is working great use her
Barry R	he is bucking a miilion years of derby readition but baffert is still baffert
Michael Schwarzkopf	who are you 'a' horses
slewobarney	Hi Steve, which horses would you throw out of your tris, supers based on post position?
Steve Tessino	Thoughts on the Alysheba? Regal Ransom is inconsistent, but I don't see anyone staying with him early...and 10/1 is nice
Max Worth	I agree Kevan
stunner81	thanks
cat thief	Steve, any thoughts on Unrivaled Belle or the La Troienne in general?
Michael Rubino	what is your trif and superfecta play?
bigcoumbe	MMM is this years ten most wanted
David Korst	I think Soldat is sitting on a big race too..........may be first into the stretch
Anthony Aiello	what do you think about her smile and st. johns in the oaks
Jackie Bushore	I'd like to hear about the Woodford Reserve, too. This field is packed with talent.
DRFDerby	Thanks for participating in the chat. Steve's full analysis will be on his blog
Ivan Onna	Alysheba = Wise Dan
Edward Barraza	what are the chances of shackleford
John Gamble	steve- who are your AA selections leading up to the derby for the pic 3 or 4
AnonSkiLawProf	Steve...Midnight Interlude and Pants on Fire....thoughts, please.
DRFSteven_Crist	Daisy Devine -- has a shot if she improves off her last... and she might since that was her off a layoff
stunner81	I still gotta go with Summer Soiree though.
Ivan Onna	Zazu is the synch of the day
Arturo Laguna	Daisy Devine hasforward moving line and offers lots of value. I'm boxing her with Zazu and Kathmanblu in the exacta.
1stsaturdaymay	For anyone who likes Daisy Devine, don't you have to also like St John's River?
Tony Viscardo	don't count Larry Jones out
Jamie Milligan	What about Master of hounds? Has a strong Beyer in last race.
DRFSteven_Crist	As for AEs in the Derby, they really should have them.
Sanjay Bhartia	i don't mind hearing from the bozos...we're all race fans
Stu Schreiber	Zazu been crying for more ground and sweeping turns; go to the window
Tony Viscardo	jamie that was on poly
Shaman Krauss	All gray in the Oaks?
bsmath	Shackleford is Kentucky bred and did good in preps
Anthony Aiello	st johns is the sleeper in this race
AnonSkiLawProf	I would like to hear your thoughts on Pants on Fire, steve.
Clocker	Derby should have AEs...but really wouldn't want to see any more of these types of horses this year
Karen Martin	me too Sanjay I learn from other's posts
Tony Viscardo	THis poly thing has ruined a great race
Ivan Onna	Zazu was making ground in the Santa Anita asphalt track...is theplay of the day
Jamie Milligan	Thanks Tony!! What do you know about track bias at Churchill?
DRFSteven_Crist	The Woodford Reserve is a great betting race... At least 6 of them could be noses apart at the finish
Justin Brownstein	Steve can you rank the following horses after post draw fave to least fave: Mucho, Midnight, Nehro, Soldat, Animal kingdom, Pants on Fi
Stu Schreiber	Ivan, concur, galloped out six in front
Dustin W	Steve, are you going to stab at the Derby superfecta? If so, are you using a key or throwing darts? Bankroll?
DRFSteven_Crist	Midnight Interlude -- I need to see more than catching Comma to the Top.
Ivan Onna	Stu she will be my single the Late P4
Arturo Laguna	Joyful Victory is too slow-a vulnerable favorite. Her Ragozin number is a 9 and top Beyer is 88
Todd	I am a late arrival - - What do you think of Soldat and Nehro Steve?
stunner81	I am loving Home Sweet Aspen in the Eight Belles.
Lyric B	Can AAA be the first out of 1 hole since Shoe w/ Ferdinand in '86? 50+ on jocks!
DRFSteven_Crist	I'm not playing the Derby superfecta because of the $1 minimum... it would be tough enough for a dime.
Stu Schreiber	stunner, go to the window
cscinsurance1	@todd, he didn't like nehro coulda won but dint in last 2
Tony Viscardo	i think track bias as on ALL big days will be FAST and Speed which scares me
DRFDerby	Steve's Derby selections were Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat for those just joining
Todd	Thanks CSC
DRFDerby	In the Okas, leaning Zazu and Plum Pretty
Stu Schreiber	Mo will scratch!
cscinsurance1	steve, this could be your year. swing 4 the fences
Jamie Milligan	So who do you like Tony?
Karen Martin	2 bucks on Twice the appeal just because italians bet on 3. tradition
Steve Tessino	Hey Steve - have to concur about the moderated chat being better.I'll catch the transcript later. Give Dondo and Junior a extra biscuit 4 me
AnonSkiLawProf	thoughts on Pants on Fire?
DRFSteven_Crist	The La Troienne looks like a 2 horse race...
DRFSteven_Crist	I'll be starting my Pick 6 off with just Blind Luck and Unrivaled Belle as A's.
Tony Viscardo	I like DI , Arch and Soldat and 1 of the frontrunners
Josh Atkinson	blind luck!
Michael Schwarzkopf	are your picks value picks or the horse u think will win
Tony Viscardo	need to see the weather 1st if it rains put in ALL on Soldat
Ghostzapper04	Steve - are you concerned that Mo will be keen early after his gallop this morning?
Stu Schreiber	Pletcher won't take a chance with Mo after last year's debacle in Breeders Cup
hayduke	I think Mission Impazible is coming into the Alysheba great
Sanjay Bhartia	Tony maybe has a point- that has been my anecdotal experience
Ivan Onna	La Troinee - All Due Respect, very dangerous
stunner81	Wise Dan in the Alysheba if its sloppy.
Mark	Will Archarcharch get mugged on the rail?
DRFSteven_Crist	Pants of Fire -- can't see him getting a step for 9F.
Jamie Milligan	But if it rains won't they seal the track at Churchill?
gomezj323	Caracortado, a toss off dirt form?
Stu Schreiber	What's the weather report for tomorrow?
DRFDerby	Steve - who are your top bet-againsts Friday or Saturday?
cscinsurance1	arch is going to break out and take out 3 at the start
Sanjay Bhartia	Steve any thoughts on distance pedigrees?
DRFSteven_Crist	I'm not sold on Joyful Victory, the 5-2 ML favorite in the Oaks...
DRFSteven_Crist	Her figs are slow and she wasn't facing top ones...
cscinsurance1	domino
Saratoga Sam	interesting that Bill Mott said Moocho Macho Man and Shakleford look the best to the Eye.
stunner81	Stevie, whats your best longshot play on Friday or Saturday?
Lyric B	Steve, thoughts on AAA/Court compared to Ferdinand/Shoe '86
DRFSteven_Crist	I'm also not sold on the Derby ML fave...
DRFSteven_Crist	Dialed In's a nice horse but maybe no better than ones who will be 3x the price
Stu Schreiber	Lyric, you've got to be kidding
gomezj323	if the scratch MO, I think post 1 will have a way better position
Ivan Onna	Dialed In - Play against
Josh Atkinson	Ax3 will get mugged or take out horses none of which is a good situation...pass
Lyric B	stu--question is can he win from the 1 hole
Tony Viscardo	SaR every time i bet on how a horse looks I LOSE . Ha
Stu Schreiber	no
Josh Atkinson	no
FrostyFeast	Steve, what do you think of Arienza in the Eight Belles? Could she have gone in the Oaks?
DRFSteven_Crist	Lyric B: AAA is no Ferdinand and Court is no Shoe
gomezj323	Lyric, watch Lookin at Lucky from last years race. Notice how he lost the race at the start of it
Lyric B	race shape is nice for him -- training amazing
Tony Viscardo	I don't agree Steve . Look at the way DI passes horses in his races . Like they are standing still
Stu Schreiber	Steve, amen!
brandon	Hey Steve, what did you think of Finger Lakes when you were there a couple of weeks ago?
wmspt	NOT YET
Sanjay Bhartia	in other words no win from the 1 hole!
Clocker	Steve: If Uncle Mo decides to scratch out, next possible race? Met Mile against underwhelming older horses possible?
cscinsurance1	tony, it's visual. 10k claimers can do the same thing
Ghostzapper04	Tony - DI barely got up to beat Shackleford...
Stu Schreiber	Don't be surprised if Mo is retired!
DRFSteven_Crist	Brandon: I had a great time at Finger Lakes and they have a great adoption program.
hayduke	Tony - they were standing still!
Ivan Onna	Steve, chances of Uncle Mo running? I'll say 25%
Tony Viscardo	He Beat him and he
Stu Schreiber	Ivan, I'll say 10%
jkearns33168	Steve, are you plaing Pick 6's or trying the Pick 5 and 4's?
Josh Atkinson	pletcher said mo is go if the race was tommarrow
Sanjay Bhartia	maybe Repole should give Mo some vitamin water...that'll cure him
Lyric B	My top 5 -- Trends are made to be broken. AAA,MMM, DI, AK, MI
Tony Viscardo	He's out of Mineshaft who gets the Dist and Zito knows how to win a derby
David Korst	Does it matter if Uncle Mo scratches..........keep him in.........more money in all the pools paid out to the others
TonyP_68	even if mo runs he wont be 100% and anything less wont win this race
wmspt	ZITO COULD BEAT DI
James Giliberto	clocker...summer campaign for mo...jim dandy travers breeder classic
JSwiss	Steve - who do you like in the Woodford Reserve? Think thats a tough race.
cscinsurance1	90% might do it in this fied
Stu Schreiber	Anybody want to guess how many breeders cup winners won derby?
DRFDerby	Welcome to everyone on the chat, we're handicapping the Derby and Oaks cards with Steven Crist
cscinsurance1	field
Mark	There are a lot of horses in the Derby with only synthetic experience. Should they be tossed?
Justin Brownstein	There is positive and negatives to Mo scratching. Positive AAA will move to the 2 with a dead closer at the 3. Neg=odds drop everywhere
Ken	Steven:And Mo is no Secretariat!
Shaman Krauss	Mo shouldn't run if there's a chance of breakdown - hearing injured, not 'sick'
Clint Speers	Steve. $100 to bet on Derby. How would you bet?
Lyric B	had Ice Box last year -- does DI have a similar race in him?
Clocker	James....might not go that way with Indian Charlie influences. Still needs to be answered
DRFDerby	Steve's full analysis will be on his blog and he'll be live blogging Derby and Oaks day
slewobarney	Odds on a Mineshaft (Di & Nehro) exacta?
cat thief	Steve, are you including Master, because other Euros have done well on the Churchill track, or just looking for an alternative?
Michael Schwarzkopf	uncle mo is the best 90% Mo is better than these. What % was he in wood?
Saratoga Sam	Did anyone notice that Soldat was #17 in the first future pool and now he's #17 in the derby. Now there's a hunch bet!
TonyP_68	hpe everyone bets on mo so I can get more fo rmy horse
Anthony Aiello	whats your thoughts on the other horses in the oaks
DRFSteven_Crist	Am I playing Pick 6 vs. Pick 5 vs. Pick 4? All of the above
wmspt	MMM WON'T GET THE DISTANCE
SuperFly Snuka	What are your thoughts on Animal Kingdom - can he be succesful on dirt?
stunner81	AAA won't move to the 2 hole. They will move over 19 and 20.
TonyP_68	95% in wood
Sanjay Bhartia	come out of retirement Jimmy!
Clint Speers	Pick 4
gomezj323	Whats the bankroll for the weekend Steven? If you dont mind me asking
James Giliberto	clocker...that was the word i read somewhere today he would not run in any other of the classics and be pointed for those races
Justin Brownstein	Stunner I heard otherwise. I do not know the correct answer
Matt Bernier	Steve, favorite stakes race on the Saturday card? Woodford Reserve?
cscinsurance1	mo will be outta gas before 1 1/8
SuperFly Snuka	Sanjay - I'm did to bankroll my Derby
David Korst	Mo should run if he can run.............if he's sick then scratch him...............Not on my tickets anyways...............
DRFSteven_Crist	Cat Thief: I'm just looking for a stranger in a weak year.
jkearns33168	Steve, the ALysheba looks tough. Who are your A's as of now? B's too if you've looked at it that closeely
Dustin W	I recall hearing Larry Jones compare Joyful Victory to Eight Belles just before the Fantasy...just curious why you don't care for her.
stunner81	They said it on VS. today. Randy Moss said it.
Joe Justus	nobody interested in Nehro?
brandon	I couldn't agree with you more on Finger Lakes adoption program and not being sold on Dialed In. What is your take on Midnight Interlude?
SB9GAMER	$100 to bet on the derby - what you got Steve?
David Korst	Rosie may run well..............and Pants on Fire could be in nice post for this race
Bob	This chat is a mad scramble into the first turn... Just like the derby... you cannot handicap any derby.. not realistic... its a true racing
Josh Atkinson	nehro looked good when he got to kentucky but since then he hasn't looked as good
Stu Schreiber	Brandon, Midnight was Baffert's 5th best 3 yr old at beginning of SA
wmspt	NEHRO WILL BE ITM
David Korst	Nehro will be in top 3
Roberta	Soldat splashes home 1st.
DRFSteven_Crist	Matt: I really like the Churchill Downs at 7F for older horses...
DRFSteven_Crist	in the CD, I'll look at Here Comes Ben at 10-1
SuperFly Snuka	Soldat looks to be the forgotten horse - I'm hoping to get > 10:1 on him.
brandon	Yes he was, but he is progressing RAPIDLY.
Michael Schwarzkopf	my prediction based on this chat - every horse will be bet - one might win
James Giliberto	clocker...from bloodhorse areticle today on their website quoting repole...If Uncle Mo misses the Derby, he would not contest either the Pre
wmspt	BRILLIANT
Tony Viscardo	except Watch me go !! ha
James Giliberto	If Uncle Mo misses the Derby, he would not contest either the Preakness (gr. I) or Belmont Stakes (gr. I), Repole said, adding he would be p
DRFDerby	For the newcomers - Steve's Derby selections are Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat
stunner81	Stevi, what will MMM's odds go off at?
Sanjay Bhartia	SPEED
bsmath	Maybe dead heat
Roberta	Nailed Here Comes Ben and Big Drama at the Spa. 7f specialist.
Ghostzapper04	Steve - can you explain why you're interested in Here Comes Ben? Signficant layoff into a G1
lukas	$1 trifecta: 6 by 8 by 10 for a total wager of $240. pick the right horses and get ready to claim.
Brian Peeples	Steven...Mo and Master in your top 3? What do you see that everyone else doesn't?
SuperFly Snuka	Does anyone have a read on Master of Hounds?
Ghostzapper04	Nor will he get a fast pace to close into...
wmspt	WINS
Josh Atkinson	I like they way animal kingdom, brilliant speed and shackleford have been training
Sanjay Bhartia	GOING AWAY
Stephen	What -- No Santiva fans?
Michael Schwarzkopf	unless u are using all different horse it would cost less
Jamie Milligan	I see MOH but not MO. He was a good 2 year old though!!
Ken Hendrix	master slow work today bad call
DRFSteven_Crist	Layoff on Ben is a concern... but he's run well fresh before.
Tony Viscardo	Steve for Super why not just use all for 4th with a cold 1,2,3, in front
wmspt	CHA-CHING
Clocker	James...He would need a prep before the Jim Dandy in that case. I can't see them going to Travers without getting distance in JD though
Clocker	Still a long ways away I suppose
Josh Atkinson	here comes ben, long layoff, coming into a G1 = pass
Kelly Fineis	Santiva, 3 diff trainers..why?
Aaron Halterman	Not high on Santiva. Good question about the trainers Kelly
Roberta	Here Comes Ben Loves Churchill, 7f and mud!
Saratoga Sam	I think P. Val. will try to wire the field, especially if it rains.
Tony Viscardo	I agree Sam he scares me the guy can ride
Ghostzapper04	Doesn't he need a quick pace too Roberta? Won't get that on Saturday.
Josh Atkinson	noble's promise looks better than here comes ben
cscinsurance1	that's p vals only hope
Ken Hendrix	will the pants b on fire good work last
James Cary	Here comes Ben is 7f specialist who beat Big Drama on one of his good days. Im in
Lyric B	Steve, who are you most scared of with the Derby not in your top 3
cscinsurance1	but there are 5 others who want the same thing
Shaman Krauss	Court has been riding well - Can he place Arch in decent early position?
hayduke	roberta - see you at the WINdow with HCBen
DRFDerby	We're talking Derby and Oaks cards with Steven Crist until 8pm
Lyric B	i mean top 4
MattIL	Will Mo run? I sure hope so, as I think he has no shot.
Tony Viscardo	Sha no he will make one run from the back
cscinsurance1	steve's gone for coffee...back in a moment
Roberta	Pace would help, drawing outside is good at 7f.
DRFDerby	Watch his blog at drf.com/blogs/steven-crist for more analysis
DRFSteven_Crist	Santiva -- even if you toss his Blue Gras, why should he beat Mucho Macho Man?
wmspt	HE IS AN ALSO RAN
Joel Sandlin	is forecast for rain still 50%
Lyric B	Steve, who's your #5 in the Derby
Aaron Halterman	Agree, say no to Santiva
Arturo Laguna	Of all 20 horses MOH is most proven at distance 2nd at 1-3/16 albeit on tapeta. He is only Raise A native line -8 of last 11 derbies....
Shaman Krauss	Tony - thanks, understood but can he avoid box in?
FairOdds	Steve, what's the A/B/C breakdown of ur Derby picks for ur Pick 6 ticket?
cscinsurance1	i think his #5 is ALL
Jacob Luft	we should be patient. Steven can only answer one question at a time
Clocker	Santiva's excuse in Derby: (fill in blank)
Aaron Halterman	Court is a great jockey, but can anyone avoid a box in from that spot?
Stu Schreiber	Steve, your selections sound like you've been talking too much with Andy Beyer. I don't think he's picked the Derby winner in twenty years.
stunner81	I am loving Battle of Hastings in the Woodford.
Tony Viscardo	i don;t know he was my key until the 1 post
Roberta	Soldat, Mucho Macho Man and Pants on fire.
Aaron Halterman	Mine too...was loving Archarcharch until that stupid post!
Tony Viscardo	funny Stu
cscinsurance1	@jacob but the derby poses several ?'s
slewobarney	If there was ever talk of limiting the field to 14 and removing the auxil gate, would you be in favor?
Saratoga Sam	I hope NBC does a good job....racing really needs a good shot in the arm
Ian Salon	kentucky oaks? who is your pick?
Tony Viscardo	After last year with L@L in that post its tough
Aaron Halterman	Yes I would slew
wmspt	POST DON'T MEAN ..... IF HE'S GOOD ENOUGH
Shaman Krauss	Me too Tony, soldat in the mud and shackleford any which way.
MattIL	Did Steve make his picks? Can someone repost
Joel Sandlin	I see a fast pace, with Nehro running past em all late
DRFDerby	Steve's Oaks picks are Zazu and Plum Pretty
DRFDerby	Derby: Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat
Lyric B	Trends made to be broken Aaron Still like AAA
DRFDerby	for those just joining
Ian Salon	really
MattIL	ty
Jamie Milligan	I am going for AAA anyway. If you are a good horse you can win from any position in my humble opinion lol!!
cat thief	Steve, which horses will you add to your derby picks if it rains?
Tony Viscardo	don't worry steve only 15 more min of this madness .......:)
MattIL	If Steve wins I get crushed. lol
Aaron Halterman	Hope you are right Lyric! Will be pulling for him
Aaron Halterman	haha, agree Matt.
Tony Viscardo	I hope so Jamie . It would be great for court
stunner81	Who do you like Ian? I got Summer Soiree
Josh Atkinson	i gave up on the 1 post last year when i saw what happened to L@L
Joel Sandlin	nehro gets the w
Clocker	MattIL: I don't like Steve's picks either...but that's why this might be a good betting race
Ian Salon	me too
DRFSteven_Crist	In the Saturday Pick 6, I'll try to get alive to 7 Derby horses...
MattIL	agreed stunner
Ian Salon	love summer soiree
DRFSteven_Crist	Uncle Mo, Mucho Macho Man, Master of Hounds, Soldat, Dialed In, Archarcharch, and someone I'm forgetting
Lyric B	Me 2--- been on a roll here...with my $100WPS over the years
Matt Bernier	Stunner, the only thing in the Woodford I'm expecting is Court Vision to be sorely overbet
Jackie Bushore	I want to see Battle of Hastings win the Woodford.
Ian Salon	stunner--i love summer soiree
stunner81	Agreed Matt. His days are over.
Michael Schwarzkopf	is the winner the one you forgot?
MattIL	im on Shack and the freight train that is Animal Kingdom
cscinsurance1	could it be the winner?
Jamie Milligan	I like Animal Kingdom too. I LOVE TAX TICKETS!!
wmspt	$50 EXA BOX 1 & 2
Mark	Should the synthetic experience be ignored?
MattIL	jamie he will be bet down. wont be tax ticket
Roberta	Yes
Michael Schwarzkopf	why will mo get the distance?
Ian Salon	summer soiree looks tremendous
DRFSteven_Crist	Derby field: 20 is too many, maybe 16?
cscinsurance1	mutual of omaha should sponsor animal kingdom
Buddy Yingling	Midnight Interlude Steve?
Tony Viscardo	I like animal too but robby will b riding in the Derby w a broken nose ?
Saratoga Sam	Ithink the best bet for the money is a $1.00 exacta box with 5 horses, just 20 bucks, and the exacta will pay well over $100.00 no matter wh
stunner81	Ian i am using Daisy Devine also.
Jamie Milligan	The way I bet it it will be Matt!! Talk Derby To ME!!
MattIL	steven great point but that's what makes it such a great betting race
Josh Atkinson	no dont change the tradition to make it easier steve
cat thief	Nehro steve?
Aaron Halterman	I say 14. Every other race is has a limit of 14, why not this one?
brandon	I always have trouble handicapping Europeans. Any tips Steven?
Buddy Yingling	throw out the Euro
Clocker	Johnny V would look interesting on Animal Kingdom if Albarado couldn't go
Anonymous	if you like those tax tickets you will keep it at 20
Stu Schreiber	Brandon, learn French
cscinsurance1	@catthief: steve don't like cuz he coulda but dint win last 2
Buddy Yingling	any horse flying in from UAE throw out
Bob	Nehro is the only horse other than DI with stamina.... 16 of these will be dead by the 1/8 pole
hayduke	can anyone find the pace in the Edgewood?
cat thief	thanks i forgot
Tony Viscardo	He'll go its the derby
lukas	no one said a thing about Calvin Borel...that horse must be trash
Ian Salon	summer soiree in the NW2 is a monster race look at all the horses he beat that came back to won and ran huge
DRFDerby	You can find Steve's detailed analysis on his blog tonight, Friday, and Saturday
brandon	From what I see with MOH i've already thrown him out.....but i've done that before and gotten burned (mainly in the Breeder's Cup.)
Buddy Yingling	who was last Euro shipper to be in the money in the Derby?
Sanjay Bhartia	even if you don't like the whole surface thing Brilliant Speed does have stamina
Tony Viscardo	good point bob . Arch can get it also . Neuro could bounce
MattIL	predictions on what the derby tri pays? I say 7600
Ian Salon	plum pretty can't win unless it rains
Shaman Krauss	Calvin has had a tough year - needs one.
Josh Atkinson	i liek brilliant speed a lot
Clocker	Calvin Borel's style would fit this Derby perfect....but no horse underneath him at all
Fred Reardon	They used to run up to 26 in the derby - they changed it.
Jamie Milligan	AAA can go the distance too!!
DRFDerby	@lukas we talked Twice the Appeal earlier - Steve doesn't like his chances
Saratoga Sam	tri...$8400
Justin Brownstein	Calvin on Dialed in would be appealing
Matt Bernier	Steve or anyone for that matter....thoughts on the turf sprint?
Stu Schreiber	Court is a true gentleman but put Calvin on AAA and watch out from rail
Bob	BRIDGETOWN a lock.. If thats the race 5f ?
MattIL	heres an interesting point. Since the field this year is so 'weak' will the standout in the derby take the last two legs and get the crown
cscinsurance1	court's lack of experience in tough spot is concerning
Lyric B	Remember Nehro ran much shorter race in Ark Derby than AAA. Tide has turned
Ian Salon	what about the race with blind luck???? i hate her.
Saratoga Sam	Is linda Rice in the turf sprint....if so, she's automatic
Stu Schreiber	3 yr old of year is NOT in Derby
Matt Bernier	That is the 5 furlong turf sprint
Shaman Krauss	Family matters - don't count court/fires out!
Clocker	Matt.....maybe the Preakness but doubt the Belmont. Belmont you need the distance in the pedigree strong
Tony Viscardo	I think from this blog we learned we ALL have to make our own picks no one knows
Sanjay Bhartia	The 2 horse is not a leaver so AAA may not be killed off?
MattIL	Clocker there are a few who could
cscinsurance1	I like A/3
slewobarney	If any race should be fair, shd be the Derby. The 1 shd not have to be dreaded due to size of field.
Ryan Reading	arch the man but at the 1 hole yikes
Clocker	Stu....3 y/o of the year is not in the US
Jamie Milligan	tri...12k!!
DRFSteven_Crist	Turf Sprint -- I'm a huge Chamberlain Bridge fan. It should be a real showdown between him and Regally Ready,
Barry R	dialed in , first ,second and third with 5 horses $1 tri total $60 looks very appealing
Ryan Reading	i like arch but not at the 1 hole
MattIL	true dat
Buddy Yingling	my problem is i've got 11 horses right now, who to throw out? LOL
cscinsurance1	post is bad and 1st time derby jock
MattIL	Frankel
Stu Schreiber	Clocker, correct
Ian Salon	arch can't win from the one unless a miracle happens
Sanjay Bhartia	who are your 11
Lyric B	2,3,4 are not speed horses...still like AAA
Buddy Yingling	anybody who hasn't hit a 93 Beyer is out
Stu Schreiber	Bobby is smiling--for once
Ryan Reading	comma to the top fits the bill be careful history fits him to a tee with stats
Buddy Yingling	My 11 are all w/ more than 93 Beyer
Matt Bernier	Frankel: the heir-apparent to Goldikova in the BC Mile
Fred Reardon	Stay thirsty has some Belmont appeal.
cscinsurance1	arch has the rail and will save ground 1st turn...
cscinsurance1	then, who knows?
Aaron Halterman	Beyers are overrated
Buddy Yingling	i like Dialed/Midnight/Soldat the most
Clocker	Comma to the Top fits the history of a Derby winner?
cscinsurance1	Welsch seemed to like him this week
Ryan Reading	yea but arch wont be able to go the distance in 1 hole
Buddy Yingling	but trying to hit the Super
cat thief	Steve, what do you think of Streakin Mohican in the race after the derby?
Sanjay Bhartia	go with the horse with successive improving beyers last 7 races
Tom	Shackleford will win laying off of Comma to the top. Will take over in stretch. Dialed In won't catch him
Ryan Reading	yes comma
DRFSteven_Crist	Chances of a Triple Crown? You wouldn't think so right now...
Lyric B	Comma...may not make it to the stretch
DRFSteven_Crist	but maybe somebody jumps up and wins the Derby by 6
lukas	anyone willing to lay 1000 to make 100 that there will be no tripple crown this year?
Ryan Reading	i went through the percentage stats of derby winners
Buddy Yingling	agree Beyers are overrated, but nobody wins the Derby without high Beyers in record
Clocker	Ryan....hit those PPs again
Stu Schreiber	lyric, concur
Shaman Krauss	Pat/ Peter Miller liked last work - distance/surface may be the problem.
slewobarney	arch will save ground if he doesn't get 'Lookin at Luckyed'
Jamie Milligan	Agree Lukas, No triple crown
Ryan Reading	look everone overlookn him
Lyric B	thanks stu
stunner81	Mucho Macho Man wins!!!!!!!
Roberta	Thorograph is the way to go.
Bob	i would lay 10,000 to win 100..... Are you kidding... these are a bunch of claimers in 3 months
MattIL	Steven I think thats def possible and I think that one of the mid pack horses can get the lead at the stretch and pull away and win with a l
MattIL	little daylight
Sanjay Bhartia	bob you can get the -900 on many sportsbooks
cat thief	Steve do you think Repole is sandbagging to run up Mo's odds?
Ryan Reading	get derby stats over last 30 yers broke down into percentage then apply that to him he is the only horse in the race that fits every spec
Clocker	Shackleford might be getting overlooked if he can rate. I will have him on my ticket
cscinsurance1	MI or MMM are best mid packers...
Kelly Fineis	Had dream a chesnut won by daylight...just as good as any other way to pick these! lol
cscinsurance1	just wonder is espinoza left enough in the tank
Ryan Reading	i like others trust me but?
bsmath	Stretch runners win the Kentucky Derby I think
DRFSteven_Crist	Thanks everyone for coming... Good luck!
MattIL	yeah clocker cant throw him out esp if theres rain
Bob	i may join... Is that still legal ?
Stu Schreiber	Unfortunately this Derby is a reflection of all that is going wrong in racing.
Sanjay Bhartia	repole doesn't need any more money...he's willing to invest in the mets 'nuff said
Fred Reardon	Steve, hi, you are trying to get to the KD w/7. Would you go that deep in a Tri?
stunner81	TVG has a Oaks preview at 8PM.
Ryan Reading	moss pass figures show this race is actually garbage
Matt Bernier	Thanks Steve
Tony Viscardo	agree Stu
brandon	I've read other places that Mo doesn't look his healthiest, so I don't think Repole is sandbagging.
MattIL	gl everyone. go AK
Clocker	Ryan....Comma will be pressed from the start and distance limited
Michael Schwarzkopf	thanks drf and sc and chatters
Tom	Shackleford wins!!
Jamie Milligan	Goodnight Tony!! Have a great Derby!!
Ryan Reading	its gunna be a longshot
Sanjay Bhartia	hey ryan where do the moss pace figues point
stunner81	Repole is a clown!
Fred Reardon	good luck
Tony Viscardo	u too Jamie good luck Use DI
cat thief	Thanks Steve, will check out your blog
wmspt	BRILLIANT!
Sanjay Bhartia	SPEEEED
Ryan Reading	clocker right hell get out but arch n decisive mmnt will beat him if he lays 5 off the lead with the horses rallyn in the turn he has a shot
Buddy Yingling	I think super will pay big no matter what, i mean huge. Good luck everyone.
cscinsurance1	thanks steve!
hayduke	thanks Steve - it will be a fascinating Derby
DRFDerby	Thanks to everyone who joined the chat
bsmath	Thanks
DRFDerby	Good luck on Oaks and Derby Days
Lyric B	thank you steve
wmspt	GOOD LUCK SANJAY
David Korst	Thanks everyone................Good Luck!!!
Sanjay Bhartia	Thanks Steve and everyone
Jamie Milligan	I am using DI and AAA!!
cat thief	how much does .50 all/all/all cost?
DRFDerby	You can get PPs here: http://www.drf.com/store/kentucky-derby-past-performances
Clocker	Ryan.....5,6,7 will be a freight train out of the gate....all will be fading at the top
Sanjay Bhartia	we don't need luck brother
Lyric B	with you Jamie...AAAA
Ryan Reading	everyone wants to look at dialed in but the didnt do there homework
DRFDerby	and follow Steve's blog for both cards: http://www.drf.com/blogs/steven-crist
David Korst	5 w/7 w/ 10 is $120
Ryan Reading	but the comma to the top get it lol
cat thief	I got my friday form already
cscinsurance1	.50 all/all/all = 20x19x18x.50
Ryan Reading	shacleford got a shot to
cscinsurance1	or 19x18x17 if mo scratches
Ryan Reading	nehro will most likeyly be dead from 19 hell be fightn mo
Ryan Reading	all be is expensicve
DRFDerby	You can find a transcript of the chat on this page tomorrow

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Kentucky Derby handcapping chat with Steven Crist

DRF Staff|May 06, 2011

DRFDerby	Welcome to tonight's Kentucky Derby and Oaks handicapping chat. We'll be talking with Steven Crist starting at 7pm
LucindaWalsh100	Can't wait!
wmspt	When will we know the final word on Uncle Mo ?
Anthony Aiello	friday
Tony Viscardo	i think by tomorrow morning
thegreeser	What are your thoughts on Mucho Macho?
Joe	this is gonna be cool
DRFDerby	Thursday night or Friday morning, according to Mo's owner
Steve Tessino	Thanks for nthe chat Steve - Hope Dondo and Junior are well.
wmspt	I hope he scratch's, i don't want him to beat me
Tony Viscardo	cold exacta ?
bsmath	Mucho Macho hasn't been in any G1 Stakes
DRFDerby	The transcripts for the first two chats will be available sometime after this chat
Tony Viscardo	great I was wondering where last nights was
wmspt	Ark derby top two
Joe	i tried watching on the versus channel yesterday the live draw and all I got was sound, did anyone else have a problem getting a picture?
Karen Martin	that's not my pic on profile, its my mom ( she died young )and its her birthday today.
cscinsurance1	i saw it online
Tony Viscardo	w with post 1 ?????
cscinsurance1	but not tv
Karen Martin	joe my versus was ok
Tony Viscardo	saw it on HRTV
wmspt	i love it , odds will be great
Tony Viscardo	the best horse racing chan
DRFDerby	Transcripts of the previous chats will be posted later tonight
1stsaturdaymay	Steve, do you downgrade any OAKS runners based on the draw?
Joe	glad to see churchill track is drying out, tired of having an off track year after year
Ianveitch	Steve, I say throw out Mo and use DI as key with arch, thirsty, midnight, shack and nehro. What say you?
Kelly Fineis	Hello All! Happy DERBY!
Tony Viscardo	every year a longshot gets 2nd
Karen Martin	Dialed, Midnight, Mucho
Josh Atkinson	Archx3 won't far any better than lookin at lucky did last year
wmspt	imo , dialed in is to slow!
cscinsurance1	small horse in big field might be a problem
bsmath	Steven isn't here for six minutes.
Tony Viscardo	i hate that post 1
Sanjay Bhartia	yeah I think DI is a bet against
cscinsurance1	i agree with wmspt
Joe	i like your 3 karen, add shack as your 4th and you have my superfecta
DRFDerby	Steven Crist will be joining us at 7pm to talk Derby and Oaks handicapping
hayduke	I need rain for my Soldat futures bet at 66-1.
Tony Viscardo	feeding the dogs
Karen Martin	who is Hammered Hank picking?
DRFDerby	or any races on Churchill's Friday and Saturday cards
SB9GAMER	anyone in Lousiville w/ an updated Derby Day forecast?
Josh Atkinson	wise dan in the alysheba at 15-1
Karen Martin	will do Joe
cscinsurance1	noaa says 40% chance of rain
Tony Viscardo	he never wins
wmspt	i want his job
Steve Tessino	Stay Thirstys last was ugly, but I think he sits the trip with the inside horses dropping back and outside gunning. His chances and value?63
Karen Martin	yeah, give us Hank's bank!
cscinsurance1	mike welsch does a fantastic job!!!
Tony Viscardo	yes Mike does
Roger Cripps	Good evening Steve. What is your gut feeling about Uncle Mo running or a no go?
Tony Viscardo	Any chance P Val runs away ?
Plans4College	ST's last was ugly but they put blinkers on him...now the blinkers are off.
Josh Atkinson	i have mixed feelings about mike
1stsaturdaymay	I read mike's workout report card, I don't think he particularly liked any of the contestants
cat thief	anyone know how the turf course is?
MrTokesalot	any early track bias?
cscinsurance1	mo scratches
James	Santiva
Josh Atkinson	his reports are sometimes conflicting
Jackie Bushore	i think they'll scratch mo
Sanjay Bhartia	pval may hang on for a super placing but i can't see that horse getting the dist
cscinsurance1	@1stsatnmay, it's a weak crop
Karen Martin	mo will be no mo
Roger Cripps	Me too from what I have heard
Josh Atkinson	CTTT won't get the 1 1/4 miles
cscinsurance1	maybe they'll all run dead last
Terry smith	Lets see Mike picked Barbaro and loved Rachel if she ran in the derby
Joe	if mo does run, which i dont think he will, he will be a good play against, bad PP and not healthy enough to compete
Jackie Bushore	i think nehro's got it with the extra distance he didnt have in the louisiana and arkansas
cscinsurance1	we all get our $ back in 20 horse photo less take
Karen Martin	who would you toss out of this race?
stunner81	Mucho Macho Man wins!!!
Tony Viscardo	1/2 the horses
Jackie Bushore	watch me go
Josh Atkinson	pletcher said if the derby would be running tomarrow mo would run
Jackie Bushore	no chance
RX	stay thirsty
DRFSteven_Crist	Good evening and thanks to everyone for coming.
Mickey Micklaus	I find this Derby Chat format a bit overwhelming.
gomezj323	Auto toss post 1
RX	how is the weather going to be tomorrow
1stsaturdaymay	Tosses - Uncle Mo, Derby Kitten, Master of Hounds, Brilliant Spped etc etc
DRFDerby	Welcome everyone - Steven Crist has joined us on the chat - let's start by going over his picks for the Derby
gomezj323	evening
Tony Viscardo	hey Steve
DRFSteven_Crist	My top Derby picks, which were due Wednesday right after the draw, were Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat...
RX	why is post 1 bad
DRFSteven_Crist	Obviously I was not pleased to read today that now they're not certain Uncle Mo will even start...
Jackie Bushore	toss them all and give us a stronger crop of 3 year olds
DRFSteven_Crist	Obviously I was not pleased to read today that now they're not certain Uncle Mo will even start...
DRFSteven_Crist	Obviously I was not pleased to read today that now they're not certain Uncle Mo will even start...
Sanjay Bhartia	Steve- are you against all the turf/synthetic horses as per usual?
James	Steve, can you explain the trainer changes for Soldat?
DRFSteven_Crist	If Mo starts, I'll still include him but this isn't the way you want to see a horse come into the Derby.
Tony Viscardo	No Dialed In Steve?
Bob Decelle	steve what did you like about master of hounds??
Josh Atkinson	@ RX watch last years derby
Mike	Jeff Bonde is a great trainer with young horses, what do you think of his chances with Twice The Appeal, especially with improving Beyers?
gomezj323	If he does start, do you throw him out?
Karen Martin	why Master? not fond of him
Joe	surprised you like mo steve, he just doesn't look himself
RX	mo too unpreditable
Tony Viscardo	Surprised no DI
RX	anyone know wht the wether will be
Sanjay Bhartia	well i guess you like MOH so not totally...
Tony Viscardo	Master has the linage of derby winners and gomez
Josh Atkinson	@ RX 40% chance of showers
bsmath	Master is a turf horse
cscinsurance1	40% chance of rain
1stsaturdaymay	Steve, what's your strongest A in the derby undercard? Particularly the pick 4 into the derby?
DRFSteven_Crist	On Macho -- I like him, I picked him second. Ran well at 2 despite being huge colt who hadn't figured things out...
Joe	Dialed in always fires and has a good PP, if de doesnt win he will at least be in the mix
RX	thanks
DRFSteven_Crist	I loved his Risen Star and give him a pass for the Louisiana Derby
phil	When is Churchill Downs going to allow also eligibles for the KY Derby
Karen Martin	100% chance of ugly hats
Roger Cripps	Hi Steve, If Mo scratches for sure, who would you replace him with in my Oaks/Derby double, I already have4,8,10,13 and 17.
RX	are smaller horses better
James	give us the rundown on Pants On Fire
DRFSteven_Crist	On Master of Hounds -- Normally I would toss him but this is a spotty Derby field. I think you have to creative.
Joe	I like pants on fire PP, could hit the board but don't think will win
Tony Viscardo	macho makes for a good story
Joe	I have him ranked #5
Steve Tessino	What about Thirsty Steve. I think Ramon will be able to get position in the first turn, and think the Fl race is a toss
Terry smith	Steve What about Animal Kingdom?
Tony Viscardo	one of the worst crop of 3 yr ever .
Mickey Micklaus	Yes, what ABOUT Animal Kingdom?
cscinsurance1	lol @karen martin
Buddy Yingling	Master of Hounds won't even be in the money.
DRFSteven_Crist	On stay thirsty -- Even if you toss his FLA Derby I think he has to improve a lot off his Gotham to be competitive.
Tony Viscardo	this is what poly has given us
stunner81	Summer Soiree and Daisy Devine in the Oaks
Karen Martin	steve on 50 cent tri- is that only straight bets? ie, does it apply to wheels/boxes or not?
Steve Tessino	Soldat had a tough trip lto, but I don't trust Garcia to get him out of the gate
Buddy Yingling	Soldat and Uncle Mo are only horses with a 100+ Beyer
Buddy Yingling	Anybody who hasn't broken 95 Beyer is suspect.
Jackie Bushore	Steve, how about Archarcharch in the 1 hole?
DRFSteven_Crist	Throw outs? I'm not sold on the fave..Dialed In's a nice horse but maybe no better than ones who will be 3x the price
Tony Viscardo	Arch was my horse is it over w the 1 hole
bsmath	Stay Thirsty has Kentucky Derby pedigree
stunner81	If its real sloppy, I make a big bet on Soldat
cat thief	Steve, what do you make of Soldat, he's one of your 4?
Joe	I would have strongly considered master of hounds if they would have gotten him here 2 wks ago to get him some works over the CD track.
William H. Davis	What about MI for 2nd or 3rd
Sanjay Bhartia	Hey Steve I'm taking the view that Brilliant Speed's dirt races were poor b/c he was clearly a slow developer and not incapable. Thoughts?
James Cary	Steve: I wonder about Soldats ability to get the distance, am I off base here
RX	sloppy how about shakelford
Roger Cripps	I was thinking Baffert's horse, Midnight Interlude to replace Uncle Mo if scratched in my O/D double.
1stsaturdaymay	Who are your OAKS picks? I'm against Joyful, love the horse on the outside by the post is a concern.
Buddy Yingling	Soldat ran a 103 Beyer in the slop at a mile and eighth, he can get the distance
DRFSteven_Crist	Strongest A in Derby undercard stakes is Hilda's Passion in the Humana.
bsmath	Soldat will do good if it rains I hear.
John Gamble	Looking at Soldat, Midnite Interlude, and Animal Kingdom for my ex box
Josh Atkinson	how do you feel about shackleford?
Arturo Laguna	sat weather forecast 30% precpitation,73degrees
James	Steve- Case against Nehro?
Tony Viscardo	an idea for future derbies only earnings that count are DIRT earnings . this is a joke
Karen Martin	Dialed In/ Animal kingdom exacta? my birthday numbers, 8-16. any chance?
DRFSteven_Crist	On Soldat -- I'm not sold on his getting the distance but I think he has a world of talent
cscinsurance1	Steve, who was your last derby winner pick?
Steve Tessino	@James - Nehro is due to bounce after two big efforts. Oh...wrong Steve?
Anthony Aiello	who are your top 3 for the oaks ?
stunner81	Soldat didn't seem to care for the heat
cat thief	Steve, what do you make of Soldat's last...I have a hard time forgiving that one
DRFSteven_Crist	Archarcharch -- the 1-hole doesn't bother me that much because I expect him to make one run from way back...
DRFSteven_Crist	I think he's going to be a little over-bet at 8-1/10-1.
Alex Remington	Hi Steve, since there's so much sameness to the field, would you perhaps put more emphasis on post position in your selections?
cscinsurance1	steve, your thoughts on Nehro?
Terry smith	any comment on animal kingdom?
Tracy	At least organized
Tony Viscardo	arch was working the best
DRFSteven_Crist	Nehro -- I don't like that he was in perfect position to win his last 2 and didn't.
Jackie Bushore	I want to hear about Nehro and Animal Kingdom, too.
John Gamble	.Steve, Thanks for chatting with us tonight. How would you rate the prep races as they relate to the Derby?
Tony Viscardo	why would u not use him steve
bigcoumbe	Steve, is ZAZU a major player tomorrow, or are figs inflated due to SA surface?
DRFSteven_Crist	In the Oaks, I'm leaning towards the western fillies, Zazu and Plum Pretty. Think R Heat Lightning was best of them
Roger Cripps	I have a feeling big longshot in th Oaks, Im going with the all
James	one more steve. i hear that Santiva had his wolf teeth removed. does this set him up for a big effort?
cscinsurance1	but you like uncle mo? he was in perf position to. no?
Sanjay Bhartia	St.John's River!
bigcoumbe	Steve, I'm really starting to like SHACK in the derby. win over the track, has rated previously, and a neck seperates
RX	how about posts on the outside
DRFSteven_Crist	Better to bet exotics or tris/supers? That's totally a matter of personal preference.
stunner81	Steven, what do you think MMM's odds will go off at?
phil	thinking this is a weak crop..best horse mo is less than 100%
DRFSteven_Crist	Play whichever you think you're best at...
Jackie Bushore	Steve, how do you feel about Watch Me Go? Does he even deserve to be in this field?
Kevan Smotherman	Steve, which Mineshaft closer do you like better to fill out the bottom of my greyhound style exotic wheel, Nehro or Dailed?
DRFSteven_Crist	If you're usually a super player, remember there's a $1 min. Oaks/Derby Day instead of $0.10.
MrTokesalot	If western fillies win Oaks, do you put more emphasis on SA Derby?
DRFSteven_Crist	Maybe consider 50-cent tris instead.
RX	what about all those outside posts is that bad
hayduke	Steve - could you identify the horses in your responses. Because of the chat format, sometimes hard to know whose question you're responding
DRFSteven_Crist	You can get the whole betting menu on my blog
Karen Martin	but can you box on .50 tris or just straight bets?
gomezj323	If Uncle Mo does run, is he still on top of your list?
Joe	I'm still high on Nehro and think he can win from the 19 post. Your thoughts on him please.
cscinsurance1	serve me up something exotic, Steven
RX	u can box
John Gamble	box
Karen Martin	thanks
RX	i dont see how a horse could win from post 19
cat thief	Steve, who moves up if a T-shower hits?
wmspt	Big brown won from 20
Bob	19 ? See Big Brown .....
Sanjay Bhartia	the 50cent tri is good news for those that don't feel like going broke
DRFSteven_Crist	The tri minimum is 50 cents whether straight or boxed
bigcoumbe	RX. Big brown won from 20..
DRFDerby	We're chatting with DRF's Steven Crist until 8 pm on handicapping the Derby and Oaks cards
Ianveitch	Steve, now that you know the latest regarding mo, are you still going to use him? seems a bad bet to me.
Buddy Yingling	Exotics will pay big in this one I think.
RX	what post are usually in it
Ken Hendrix	midnite had the fastest mile and eighth
Michael Schwarzkopf	There seems to be a lot of speed in the race, would you favor a speed type over a closer. Does it make sense to group them in pick 3's etc
Anthony Aiello	what do you think about her smile and st. johns
bigcoumbe	thoughts on SHACK. win over track. has rated before. a neck behind the fav....
stunner81	Stevie, who do you like in the Oaks???
Mickey Micklaus	Yes, Shackleford thoughts, please.
David Korst	We played a nice 5 horse/7 horse/10 horse 50 cent tri for $120
DRFSteven_Crist	Animal Kingdom and Brilliant Speed -- I can't take them off their poly races...
gomezj323	@Ken - Fastests on an extremely fast SA track
DRFSteven_Crist	I always assume these horses are on poly because they didn't train well on dirt.
Jamie Milligan	What about BO-RAIL on the 3?
dagenhamdon	Has anyone won from the 1st post position?
Kelly Fineis	Love Shack..but the Storm Cat jinx?
Tony Viscardo	if calvin wins on this donkey I give up
RX	how was the track today
Jamie Milligan	Can you tell me more about Track Bias at CD Steve?
stunner81	Bo-Rail is riding a donkey. No chance.
phil	if we use mr spock-like logic, shackleford because of his fine work over the surface has to be used
DRFSteven_Crist	Shackleford -- if he couldn't last at 9.5 on a speed track, I can't see him getting 10 with more speed in the race.
John Gamble	fast as lightning
Tony Viscardo	I still say dialed in runs by them ALL
RX	maybe 3rd or 4th for calvin
Barry R	FAST AND FIRM
bigcoumbe	steve, you like PLUM in the Oaks, do you think she can wire....appears to be pace to keep her honest.
RX	dialed got a good post
Buddy Yingling	true about Borel on the 3, eh Steve? Donkey?
Barry R	SPEED HELD VERY WELL
Max Worth	Mo and Dialed In are the only legit horses
AnonSkiLawProf	thoughts on Midnight Interlude? Improving at the right time?
Sanjay Bhartia	Calvin has obviously become overrated in KDs but I have a bad feeling the donkey may sneak in for a piece!
RX	so closers are going to win this race
DRFSteven_Crist	Twice the Appeal -- no shot at all. His Sunland Derby was the same day...
Tony Viscardo	i agree max
cscinsurance1	mo and DI are bets against
DRFSteven_Crist	as the Sunland Oaks and Plum Pretty ran much faster.
Barry R	EVERY PREP HAS BEEN A BOMB ,,,WHY NOT THE BIG ONE????
David Korst	Uncle Mo is a toss!!
Bob	Mo is overhyped like Bandini was
RX	mo is sick anyways
DRFDerby	If you're just joining us, Steve's Oaks picks are Zazu and Plum Pretty
RX	he a pooing
wmspt	BRILLIANT
Tony Viscardo	i agree bout Mo but not Di
stunner81	Stevie, thoughts on Daisy Devine?
Sanjay Bhartia	SPEED
RX	decisve moment
DRFDerby	In the Derby Steve's selections after the draw were Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat
Troy Mix	Any advice on how to differentiate the synthetic preps? How does Keeneland's course play vs. Turfway's?
Max Worth	Soldat if it's muddly
wmspt	YES
cscinsurance1	DI is too slow of a closer. there are better
cscinsurance1	or faster closers
David Korst	Dialed in will be in the tri.................AAA is a toss too
DRFSteven_Crist	Top Preps? The five G1 preps were all sub-par... they were decided by two necks, two heads, and a nose...
Jamie Milligan	What about Track Bias at CD?
Tony Viscardo	Steve thoughts on P VAL ?
Jackie Bushore	I want to hear about Watch Me Go.
wmspt	DRUGY
Tony Viscardo	Yes but they were GD 1's
TonyP_68	does arch3 have a shot breaking form post 1
cscinsurance1	di=dialed in 4:1 ML
Bob	Watch me lose... If you bet him
AnonSkiLawProf	what about Midnight Interlude?
bsmath	DI is Dialed In
Bob	he is so so cheap
stunner81	Anybody? Thoughts on Daisy Devine?
Justin Brownstein	Steve can you rank the following horses after post from your fave to least fave: Mucho, Midnight, Nehro, Soldat, Animal kingdom, Pants on Fi
Shaman Krauss	albarado ok on animal?
John Gamble	5th best filly in the race
David Korst	Midnight Interlude will run good.........Baffert has them ready
Sanjay Bhartia	yes daisy devine is a play
Kelly Fineis	Im all in on Daisy!
Clocker	To be honest, this Derby field might have only a handful of grade I talent
Mark	Dialed In looks good, especially since the 5,6,&7 horses to his inside are the rabbits
Kevan Smotherman	lose this format, I'm here to hear the comments of a pro handicapper and author not a bunch of bozo's.
DRFSteven_Crist	Watch me Go -- won a terrible Tampa Derby. None of his 10 races put him in the ballpark.
Ken Hendrix	daisy is working great use her
Barry R	he is bucking a miilion years of derby readition but baffert is still baffert
Michael Schwarzkopf	who are you 'a' horses
slewobarney	Hi Steve, which horses would you throw out of your tris, supers based on post position?
Steve Tessino	Thoughts on the Alysheba? Regal Ransom is inconsistent, but I don't see anyone staying with him early...and 10/1 is nice
Max Worth	I agree Kevan
stunner81	thanks
cat thief	Steve, any thoughts on Unrivaled Belle or the La Troienne in general?
Michael Rubino	what is your trif and superfecta play?
bigcoumbe	MMM is this years ten most wanted
David Korst	I think Soldat is sitting on a big race too..........may be first into the stretch
Anthony Aiello	what do you think about her smile and st. johns in the oaks
Jackie Bushore	I'd like to hear about the Woodford Reserve, too. This field is packed with talent.
DRFDerby	Thanks for participating in the chat. Steve's full analysis will be on his blog
Ivan Onna	Alysheba = Wise Dan
Edward Barraza	what are the chances of shackleford
John Gamble	steve- who are your AA selections leading up to the derby for the pic 3 or 4
AnonSkiLawProf	Steve...Midnight Interlude and Pants on Fire....thoughts, please.
DRFSteven_Crist	Daisy Devine -- has a shot if she improves off her last... and she might since that was her off a layoff
stunner81	I still gotta go with Summer Soiree though.
Ivan Onna	Zazu is the synch of the day
Arturo Laguna	Daisy Devine hasforward moving line and offers lots of value. I'm boxing her with Zazu and Kathmanblu in the exacta.
1stsaturdaymay	For anyone who likes Daisy Devine, don't you have to also like St John's River?
Tony Viscardo	don't count Larry Jones out
Jamie Milligan	What about Master of hounds? Has a strong Beyer in last race.
DRFSteven_Crist	As for AEs in the Derby, they really should have them.
Sanjay Bhartia	i don't mind hearing from the bozos...we're all race fans
Stu Schreiber	Zazu been crying for more ground and sweeping turns; go to the window
Tony Viscardo	jamie that was on poly
Shaman Krauss	All gray in the Oaks?
bsmath	Shackleford is Kentucky bred and did good in preps
Anthony Aiello	st johns is the sleeper in this race
AnonSkiLawProf	I would like to hear your thoughts on Pants on Fire, steve.
Clocker	Derby should have AEs...but really wouldn't want to see any more of these types of horses this year
Karen Martin	me too Sanjay I learn from other's posts
Tony Viscardo	THis poly thing has ruined a great race
Ivan Onna	Zazu was making ground in the Santa Anita asphalt track...is theplay of the day
Jamie Milligan	Thanks Tony!! What do you know about track bias at Churchill?
DRFSteven_Crist	The Woodford Reserve is a great betting race... At least 6 of them could be noses apart at the finish
Justin Brownstein	Steve can you rank the following horses after post draw fave to least fave: Mucho, Midnight, Nehro, Soldat, Animal kingdom, Pants on Fi
Stu Schreiber	Ivan, concur, galloped out six in front
Dustin W	Steve, are you going to stab at the Derby superfecta? If so, are you using a key or throwing darts? Bankroll?
DRFSteven_Crist	Midnight Interlude -- I need to see more than catching Comma to the Top.
Ivan Onna	Stu she will be my single the Late P4
Arturo Laguna	Joyful Victory is too slow-a vulnerable favorite. Her Ragozin number is a 9 and top Beyer is 88
Todd	I am a late arrival - - What do you think of Soldat and Nehro Steve?
stunner81	I am loving Home Sweet Aspen in the Eight Belles.
Lyric B	Can AAA be the first out of 1 hole since Shoe w/ Ferdinand in '86? 50+ on jocks!
DRFSteven_Crist	I'm not playing the Derby superfecta because of the $1 minimum... it would be tough enough for a dime.
Stu Schreiber	stunner, go to the window
cscinsurance1	@todd, he didn't like nehro coulda won but dint in last 2
Tony Viscardo	i think track bias as on ALL big days will be FAST and Speed which scares me
DRFDerby	Steve's Derby selections were Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat for those just joining
Todd	Thanks CSC
DRFDerby	In the Okas, leaning Zazu and Plum Pretty
Stu Schreiber	Mo will scratch!
cscinsurance1	steve, this could be your year. swing 4 the fences
Jamie Milligan	So who do you like Tony?
Karen Martin	2 bucks on Twice the appeal just because italians bet on 3. tradition
Steve Tessino	Hey Steve - have to concur about the moderated chat being better.I'll catch the transcript later. Give Dondo and Junior a extra biscuit 4 me
AnonSkiLawProf	thoughts on Pants on Fire?
DRFSteven_Crist	The La Troienne looks like a 2 horse race...
DRFSteven_Crist	I'll be starting my Pick 6 off with just Blind Luck and Unrivaled Belle as A's.
Tony Viscardo	I like DI , Arch and Soldat and 1 of the frontrunners
Josh Atkinson	blind luck!
Michael Schwarzkopf	are your picks value picks or the horse u think will win
Tony Viscardo	need to see the weather 1st if it rains put in ALL on Soldat
Ghostzapper04	Steve - are you concerned that Mo will be keen early after his gallop this morning?
Stu Schreiber	Pletcher won't take a chance with Mo after last year's debacle in Breeders Cup
hayduke	I think Mission Impazible is coming into the Alysheba great
Sanjay Bhartia	Tony maybe has a point- that has been my anecdotal experience
Ivan Onna	La Troinee - All Due Respect, very dangerous
stunner81	Wise Dan in the Alysheba if its sloppy.
Mark	Will Archarcharch get mugged on the rail?
DRFSteven_Crist	Pants of Fire -- can't see him getting a step for 9F.
Jamie Milligan	But if it rains won't they seal the track at Churchill?
gomezj323	Caracortado, a toss off dirt form?
Stu Schreiber	What's the weather report for tomorrow?
DRFDerby	Steve - who are your top bet-againsts Friday or Saturday?
cscinsurance1	arch is going to break out and take out 3 at the start
Sanjay Bhartia	Steve any thoughts on distance pedigrees?
DRFSteven_Crist	I'm not sold on Joyful Victory, the 5-2 ML favorite in the Oaks...
DRFSteven_Crist	Her figs are slow and she wasn't facing top ones...
cscinsurance1	domino
Saratoga Sam	interesting that Bill Mott said Moocho Macho Man and Shakleford look the best to the Eye.
stunner81	Stevie, whats your best longshot play on Friday or Saturday?
Lyric B	Steve, thoughts on AAA/Court compared to Ferdinand/Shoe '86
DRFSteven_Crist	I'm also not sold on the Derby ML fave...
DRFSteven_Crist	Dialed In's a nice horse but maybe no better than ones who will be 3x the price
Stu Schreiber	Lyric, you've got to be kidding
gomezj323	if the scratch MO, I think post 1 will have a way better position
Ivan Onna	Dialed In - Play against
Josh Atkinson	Ax3 will get mugged or take out horses none of which is a good situation...pass
Lyric B	stu--question is can he win from the 1 hole
Tony Viscardo	SaR every time i bet on how a horse looks I LOSE . Ha
Stu Schreiber	no
Josh Atkinson	no
FrostyFeast	Steve, what do you think of Arienza in the Eight Belles? Could she have gone in the Oaks?
DRFSteven_Crist	Lyric B: AAA is no Ferdinand and Court is no Shoe
gomezj323	Lyric, watch Lookin at Lucky from last years race. Notice how he lost the race at the start of it
Lyric B	race shape is nice for him -- training amazing
Tony Viscardo	I don't agree Steve . Look at the way DI passes horses in his races . Like they are standing still
Stu Schreiber	Steve, amen!
brandon	Hey Steve, what did you think of Finger Lakes when you were there a couple of weeks ago?
wmspt	NOT YET
Sanjay Bhartia	in other words no win from the 1 hole!
Clocker	Steve: If Uncle Mo decides to scratch out, next possible race? Met Mile against underwhelming older horses possible?
cscinsurance1	tony, it's visual. 10k claimers can do the same thing
Ghostzapper04	Tony - DI barely got up to beat Shackleford...
Stu Schreiber	Don't be surprised if Mo is retired!
DRFSteven_Crist	Brandon: I had a great time at Finger Lakes and they have a great adoption program.
hayduke	Tony - they were standing still!
Ivan Onna	Steve, chances of Uncle Mo running? I'll say 25%
Tony Viscardo	He Beat him and he
Stu Schreiber	Ivan, I'll say 10%
jkearns33168	Steve, are you plaing Pick 6's or trying the Pick 5 and 4's?
Josh Atkinson	pletcher said mo is go if the race was tommarrow
Sanjay Bhartia	maybe Repole should give Mo some vitamin water...that'll cure him
Lyric B	My top 5 -- Trends are made to be broken. AAA,MMM, DI, AK, MI
Tony Viscardo	He's out of Mineshaft who gets the Dist and Zito knows how to win a derby
David Korst	Does it matter if Uncle Mo scratches..........keep him in.........more money in all the pools paid out to the others
TonyP_68	even if mo runs he wont be 100% and anything less wont win this race
wmspt	ZITO COULD BEAT DI
James Giliberto	clocker...summer campaign for mo...jim dandy travers breeder classic
JSwiss	Steve - who do you like in the Woodford Reserve? Think thats a tough race.
cscinsurance1	90% might do it in this fied
Stu Schreiber	Anybody want to guess how many breeders cup winners won derby?
DRFDerby	Welcome to everyone on the chat, we're handicapping the Derby and Oaks cards with Steven Crist
cscinsurance1	field
Mark	There are a lot of horses in the Derby with only synthetic experience. Should they be tossed?
Justin Brownstein	There is positive and negatives to Mo scratching. Positive AAA will move to the 2 with a dead closer at the 3. Neg=odds drop everywhere
Ken	Steven:And Mo is no Secretariat!
Shaman Krauss	Mo shouldn't run if there's a chance of breakdown - hearing injured, not 'sick'
Clint Speers	Steve. $100 to bet on Derby. How would you bet?
Lyric B	had Ice Box last year -- does DI have a similar race in him?
Clocker	James....might not go that way with Indian Charlie influences. Still needs to be answered
DRFDerby	Steve's full analysis will be on his blog and he'll be live blogging Derby and Oaks day
slewobarney	Odds on a Mineshaft (Di & Nehro) exacta?
cat thief	Steve, are you including Master, because other Euros have done well on the Churchill track, or just looking for an alternative?
Michael Schwarzkopf	uncle mo is the best 90% Mo is better than these. What % was he in wood?
Saratoga Sam	Did anyone notice that Soldat was #17 in the first future pool and now he's #17 in the derby. Now there's a hunch bet!
TonyP_68	hpe everyone bets on mo so I can get more fo rmy horse
Anthony Aiello	whats your thoughts on the other horses in the oaks
DRFSteven_Crist	Am I playing Pick 6 vs. Pick 5 vs. Pick 4? All of the above
wmspt	MMM WON'T GET THE DISTANCE
SuperFly Snuka	What are your thoughts on Animal Kingdom - can he be succesful on dirt?
stunner81	AAA won't move to the 2 hole. They will move over 19 and 20.
TonyP_68	95% in wood
Sanjay Bhartia	come out of retirement Jimmy!
Clint Speers	Pick 4
gomezj323	Whats the bankroll for the weekend Steven? If you dont mind me asking
James Giliberto	clocker...that was the word i read somewhere today he would not run in any other of the classics and be pointed for those races
Justin Brownstein	Stunner I heard otherwise. I do not know the correct answer
Matt Bernier	Steve, favorite stakes race on the Saturday card? Woodford Reserve?
cscinsurance1	mo will be outta gas before 1 1/8
SuperFly Snuka	Sanjay - I'm did to bankroll my Derby
David Korst	Mo should run if he can run.............if he's sick then scratch him...............Not on my tickets anyways...............
DRFSteven_Crist	Cat Thief: I'm just looking for a stranger in a weak year.
jkearns33168	Steve, the ALysheba looks tough. Who are your A's as of now? B's too if you've looked at it that closeely
Dustin W	I recall hearing Larry Jones compare Joyful Victory to Eight Belles just before the Fantasy...just curious why you don't care for her.
stunner81	They said it on VS. today. Randy Moss said it.
Joe Justus	nobody interested in Nehro?
brandon	I couldn't agree with you more on Finger Lakes adoption program and not being sold on Dialed In. What is your take on Midnight Interlude?
SB9GAMER	$100 to bet on the derby - what you got Steve?
David Korst	Rosie may run well..............and Pants on Fire could be in nice post for this race
Bob	This chat is a mad scramble into the first turn... Just like the derby... you cannot handicap any derby.. not realistic... its a true racing
Josh Atkinson	nehro looked good when he got to kentucky but since then he hasn't looked as good
Stu Schreiber	Brandon, Midnight was Baffert's 5th best 3 yr old at beginning of SA
wmspt	NEHRO WILL BE ITM
David Korst	Nehro will be in top 3
Roberta	Soldat splashes home 1st.
DRFSteven_Crist	Matt: I really like the Churchill Downs at 7F for older horses...
DRFSteven_Crist	in the CD, I'll look at Here Comes Ben at 10-1
SuperFly Snuka	Soldat looks to be the forgotten horse - I'm hoping to get > 10:1 on him.
brandon	Yes he was, but he is progressing RAPIDLY.
Michael Schwarzkopf	my prediction based on this chat - every horse will be bet - one might win
James Giliberto	clocker...from bloodhorse areticle today on their website quoting repole...If Uncle Mo misses the Derby, he would not contest either the Pre
wmspt	BRILLIANT
Tony Viscardo	except Watch me go !! ha
James Giliberto	If Uncle Mo misses the Derby, he would not contest either the Preakness (gr. I) or Belmont Stakes (gr. I), Repole said, adding he would be p
DRFDerby	For the newcomers - Steve's Derby selections are Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat
stunner81	Stevi, what will MMM's odds go off at?
Sanjay Bhartia	SPEED
bsmath	Maybe dead heat
Roberta	Nailed Here Comes Ben and Big Drama at the Spa. 7f specialist.
Ghostzapper04	Steve - can you explain why you're interested in Here Comes Ben? Signficant layoff into a G1
lukas	$1 trifecta: 6 by 8 by 10 for a total wager of $240. pick the right horses and get ready to claim.
Brian Peeples	Steven...Mo and Master in your top 3? What do you see that everyone else doesn't?
SuperFly Snuka	Does anyone have a read on Master of Hounds?
Ghostzapper04	Nor will he get a fast pace to close into...
wmspt	WINS
Josh Atkinson	I like they way animal kingdom, brilliant speed and shackleford have been training
Sanjay Bhartia	GOING AWAY
Stephen	What -- No Santiva fans?
Michael Schwarzkopf	unless u are using all different horse it would cost less
Jamie Milligan	I see MOH but not MO. He was a good 2 year old though!!
Ken Hendrix	master slow work today bad call
DRFSteven_Crist	Layoff on Ben is a concern... but he's run well fresh before.
Tony Viscardo	Steve for Super why not just use all for 4th with a cold 1,2,3, in front
wmspt	CHA-CHING
Clocker	James...He would need a prep before the Jim Dandy in that case. I can't see them going to Travers without getting distance in JD though
Clocker	Still a long ways away I suppose
Josh Atkinson	here comes ben, long layoff, coming into a G1 = pass
Kelly Fineis	Santiva, 3 diff trainers..why?
Aaron Halterman	Not high on Santiva. Good question about the trainers Kelly
Roberta	Here Comes Ben Loves Churchill, 7f and mud!
Saratoga Sam	I think P. Val. will try to wire the field, especially if it rains.
Tony Viscardo	I agree Sam he scares me the guy can ride
Ghostzapper04	Doesn't he need a quick pace too Roberta? Won't get that on Saturday.
Josh Atkinson	noble's promise looks better than here comes ben
cscinsurance1	that's p vals only hope
Ken Hendrix	will the pants b on fire good work last
James Cary	Here comes Ben is 7f specialist who beat Big Drama on one of his good days. Im in
Lyric B	Steve, who are you most scared of with the Derby not in your top 3
cscinsurance1	but there are 5 others who want the same thing
Shaman Krauss	Court has been riding well - Can he place Arch in decent early position?
hayduke	roberta - see you at the WINdow with HCBen
DRFDerby	We're talking Derby and Oaks cards with Steven Crist until 8pm
Lyric B	i mean top 4
MattIL	Will Mo run? I sure hope so, as I think he has no shot.
Tony Viscardo	Sha no he will make one run from the back
cscinsurance1	steve's gone for coffee...back in a moment
Roberta	Pace would help, drawing outside is good at 7f.
DRFDerby	Watch his blog at drf.com/blogs/steven-crist for more analysis
DRFSteven_Crist	Santiva -- even if you toss his Blue Gras, why should he beat Mucho Macho Man?
wmspt	HE IS AN ALSO RAN
Joel Sandlin	is forecast for rain still 50%
Lyric B	Steve, who's your #5 in the Derby
Aaron Halterman	Agree, say no to Santiva
Arturo Laguna	Of all 20 horses MOH is most proven at distance 2nd at 1-3/16 albeit on tapeta. He is only Raise A native line -8 of last 11 derbies....
Shaman Krauss	Tony - thanks, understood but can he avoid box in?
FairOdds	Steve, what's the A/B/C breakdown of ur Derby picks for ur Pick 6 ticket?
cscinsurance1	i think his #5 is ALL
Jacob Luft	we should be patient. Steven can only answer one question at a time
Clocker	Santiva's excuse in Derby: (fill in blank)
Aaron Halterman	Court is a great jockey, but can anyone avoid a box in from that spot?
Stu Schreiber	Steve, your selections sound like you've been talking too much with Andy Beyer. I don't think he's picked the Derby winner in twenty years.
stunner81	I am loving Battle of Hastings in the Woodford.
Tony Viscardo	i don;t know he was my key until the 1 post
Roberta	Soldat, Mucho Macho Man and Pants on fire.
Aaron Halterman	Mine too...was loving Archarcharch until that stupid post!
Tony Viscardo	funny Stu
cscinsurance1	@jacob but the derby poses several ?'s
slewobarney	If there was ever talk of limiting the field to 14 and removing the auxil gate, would you be in favor?
Saratoga Sam	I hope NBC does a good job....racing really needs a good shot in the arm
Ian Salon	kentucky oaks? who is your pick?
Tony Viscardo	After last year with L@L in that post its tough
Aaron Halterman	Yes I would slew
wmspt	POST DON'T MEAN ..... IF HE'S GOOD ENOUGH
Shaman Krauss	Me too Tony, soldat in the mud and shackleford any which way.
MattIL	Did Steve make his picks? Can someone repost
Joel Sandlin	I see a fast pace, with Nehro running past em all late
DRFDerby	Steve's Oaks picks are Zazu and Plum Pretty
DRFDerby	Derby: Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat
Lyric B	Trends made to be broken Aaron Still like AAA
DRFDerby	for those just joining
Ian Salon	really
MattIL	ty
Jamie Milligan	I am going for AAA anyway. If you are a good horse you can win from any position in my humble opinion lol!!
cat thief	Steve, which horses will you add to your derby picks if it rains?
Tony Viscardo	don't worry steve only 15 more min of this madness .......:)
MattIL	If Steve wins I get crushed. lol
Aaron Halterman	Hope you are right Lyric! Will be pulling for him
Aaron Halterman	haha, agree Matt.
Tony Viscardo	I hope so Jamie . It would be great for court
stunner81	Who do you like Ian? I got Summer Soiree
Josh Atkinson	i gave up on the 1 post last year when i saw what happened to L@L
Joel Sandlin	nehro gets the w
Clocker	MattIL: I don't like Steve's picks either...but that's why this might be a good betting race
Ian Salon	me too
DRFSteven_Crist	In the Saturday Pick 6, I'll try to get alive to 7 Derby horses...
MattIL	agreed stunner
Ian Salon	love summer soiree
DRFSteven_Crist	Uncle Mo, Mucho Macho Man, Master of Hounds, Soldat, Dialed In, Archarcharch, and someone I'm forgetting
Lyric B	Me 2--- been on a roll here...with my $100WPS over the years
Matt Bernier	Stunner, the only thing in the Woodford I'm expecting is Court Vision to be sorely overbet
Jackie Bushore	I want to see Battle of Hastings win the Woodford.
Ian Salon	stunner--i love summer soiree
stunner81	Agreed Matt. His days are over.
Michael Schwarzkopf	is the winner the one you forgot?
MattIL	im on Shack and the freight train that is Animal Kingdom
cscinsurance1	could it be the winner?
Jamie Milligan	I like Animal Kingdom too. I LOVE TAX TICKETS!!
wmspt	$50 EXA BOX 1 & 2
Mark	Should the synthetic experience be ignored?
MattIL	jamie he will be bet down. wont be tax ticket
Roberta	Yes
Michael Schwarzkopf	why will mo get the distance?
Ian Salon	summer soiree looks tremendous
DRFSteven_Crist	Derby field: 20 is too many, maybe 16?
cscinsurance1	mutual of omaha should sponsor animal kingdom
Buddy Yingling	Midnight Interlude Steve?
Tony Viscardo	I like animal too but robby will b riding in the Derby w a broken nose ?
Saratoga Sam	Ithink the best bet for the money is a $1.00 exacta box with 5 horses, just 20 bucks, and the exacta will pay well over $100.00 no matter wh
stunner81	Ian i am using Daisy Devine also.
Jamie Milligan	The way I bet it it will be Matt!! Talk Derby To ME!!
MattIL	steven great point but that's what makes it such a great betting race
Josh Atkinson	no dont change the tradition to make it easier steve
cat thief	Nehro steve?
Aaron Halterman	I say 14. Every other race is has a limit of 14, why not this one?
brandon	I always have trouble handicapping Europeans. Any tips Steven?
Buddy Yingling	throw out the Euro
Clocker	Johnny V would look interesting on Animal Kingdom if Albarado couldn't go
Anonymous	if you like those tax tickets you will keep it at 20
Stu Schreiber	Brandon, learn French
cscinsurance1	@catthief: steve don't like cuz he coulda but dint win last 2
Buddy Yingling	any horse flying in from UAE throw out
Bob	Nehro is the only horse other than DI with stamina.... 16 of these will be dead by the 1/8 pole
hayduke	can anyone find the pace in the Edgewood?
cat thief	thanks i forgot
Tony Viscardo	He'll go its the derby
lukas	no one said a thing about Calvin Borel...that horse must be trash
Ian Salon	summer soiree in the NW2 is a monster race look at all the horses he beat that came back to won and ran huge
DRFDerby	You can find Steve's detailed analysis on his blog tonight, Friday, and Saturday
brandon	From what I see with MOH i've already thrown him out.....but i've done that before and gotten burned (mainly in the Breeder's Cup.)
Buddy Yingling	who was last Euro shipper to be in the money in the Derby?
Sanjay Bhartia	even if you don't like the whole surface thing Brilliant Speed does have stamina
Tony Viscardo	good point bob . Arch can get it also . Neuro could bounce
MattIL	predictions on what the derby tri pays? I say 7600
Ian Salon	plum pretty can't win unless it rains
Shaman Krauss	Calvin has had a tough year - needs one.
Josh Atkinson	i liek brilliant speed a lot
Clocker	Calvin Borel's style would fit this Derby perfect....but no horse underneath him at all
Fred Reardon	They used to run up to 26 in the derby - they changed it.
Jamie Milligan	AAA can go the distance too!!
DRFDerby	@lukas we talked Twice the Appeal earlier - Steve doesn't like his chances
Saratoga Sam	tri...$8400
Justin Brownstein	Calvin on Dialed in would be appealing
Matt Bernier	Steve or anyone for that matter....thoughts on the turf sprint?
Stu Schreiber	Court is a true gentleman but put Calvin on AAA and watch out from rail
Bob	BRIDGETOWN a lock.. If thats the race 5f ?
MattIL	heres an interesting point. Since the field this year is so 'weak' will the standout in the derby take the last two legs and get the crown
cscinsurance1	court's lack of experience in tough spot is concerning
Lyric B	Remember Nehro ran much shorter race in Ark Derby than AAA. Tide has turned
Ian Salon	what about the race with blind luck???? i hate her.
Saratoga Sam	Is linda Rice in the turf sprint....if so, she's automatic
Stu Schreiber	3 yr old of year is NOT in Derby
Matt Bernier	That is the 5 furlong turf sprint
Shaman Krauss	Family matters - don't count court/fires out!
Clocker	Matt.....maybe the Preakness but doubt the Belmont. Belmont you need the distance in the pedigree strong
Tony Viscardo	I think from this blog we learned we ALL have to make our own picks no one knows
Sanjay Bhartia	The 2 horse is not a leaver so AAA may not be killed off?
MattIL	Clocker there are a few who could
cscinsurance1	I like A/3
slewobarney	If any race should be fair, shd be the Derby. The 1 shd not have to be dreaded due to size of field.
Ryan Reading	arch the man but at the 1 hole yikes
Clocker	Stu....3 y/o of the year is not in the US
Jamie Milligan	tri...12k!!
DRFSteven_Crist	Turf Sprint -- I'm a huge Chamberlain Bridge fan. It should be a real showdown between him and Regally Ready,
Barry R	dialed in , first ,second and third with 5 horses $1 tri total $60 looks very appealing
Ryan Reading	i like arch but not at the 1 hole
MattIL	true dat
Buddy Yingling	my problem is i've got 11 horses right now, who to throw out? LOL
cscinsurance1	post is bad and 1st time derby jock
MattIL	Frankel
Stu Schreiber	Clocker, correct
Ian Salon	arch can't win from the one unless a miracle happens
Sanjay Bhartia	who are your 11
Lyric B	2,3,4 are not speed horses...still like AAA
Buddy Yingling	anybody who hasn't hit a 93 Beyer is out
Stu Schreiber	Bobby is smiling--for once
Ryan Reading	comma to the top fits the bill be careful history fits him to a tee with stats
Buddy Yingling	My 11 are all w/ more than 93 Beyer
Matt Bernier	Frankel: the heir-apparent to Goldikova in the BC Mile
Fred Reardon	Stay thirsty has some Belmont appeal.
cscinsurance1	arch has the rail and will save ground 1st turn...
cscinsurance1	then, who knows?
Aaron Halterman	Beyers are overrated
Buddy Yingling	i like Dialed/Midnight/Soldat the most
Clocker	Comma to the Top fits the history of a Derby winner?
cscinsurance1	Welsch seemed to like him this week
Ryan Reading	yea but arch wont be able to go the distance in 1 hole
Buddy Yingling	but trying to hit the Super
cat thief	Steve, what do you think of Streakin Mohican in the race after the derby?
Sanjay Bhartia	go with the horse with successive improving beyers last 7 races
Tom	Shackleford will win laying off of Comma to the top. Will take over in stretch. Dialed In won't catch him
Ryan Reading	yes comma
DRFSteven_Crist	Chances of a Triple Crown? You wouldn't think so right now...
Lyric B	Comma...may not make it to the stretch
DRFSteven_Crist	but maybe somebody jumps up and wins the Derby by 6
lukas	anyone willing to lay 1000 to make 100 that there will be no tripple crown this year?
Ryan Reading	i went through the percentage stats of derby winners
Buddy Yingling	agree Beyers are overrated, but nobody wins the Derby without high Beyers in record
Clocker	Ryan....hit those PPs again
Stu Schreiber	lyric, concur
Shaman Krauss	Pat/ Peter Miller liked last work - distance/surface may be the problem.
slewobarney	arch will save ground if he doesn't get 'Lookin at Luckyed'
Jamie Milligan	Agree Lukas, No triple crown
Ryan Reading	look everone overlookn him
Lyric B	thanks stu
stunner81	Mucho Macho Man wins!!!!!!!
Roberta	Thorograph is the way to go.
Bob	i would lay 10,000 to win 100..... Are you kidding... these are a bunch of claimers in 3 months
MattIL	Steven I think thats def possible and I think that one of the mid pack horses can get the lead at the stretch and pull away and win with a l
MattIL	little daylight
Sanjay Bhartia	bob you can get the -900 on many sportsbooks
cat thief	Steve do you think Repole is sandbagging to run up Mo's odds?
Ryan Reading	get derby stats over last 30 yers broke down into percentage then apply that to him he is the only horse in the race that fits every spec
Clocker	Shackleford might be getting overlooked if he can rate. I will have him on my ticket
cscinsurance1	MI or MMM are best mid packers...
Kelly Fineis	Had dream a chesnut won by daylight...just as good as any other way to pick these! lol
cscinsurance1	just wonder is espinoza left enough in the tank
Ryan Reading	i like others trust me but?
bsmath	Stretch runners win the Kentucky Derby I think
DRFSteven_Crist	Thanks everyone for coming... Good luck!
MattIL	yeah clocker cant throw him out esp if theres rain
Bob	i may join... Is that still legal ?
Stu Schreiber	Unfortunately this Derby is a reflection of all that is going wrong in racing.
Sanjay Bhartia	repole doesn't need any more money...he's willing to invest in the mets 'nuff said
Fred Reardon	Steve, hi, you are trying to get to the KD w/7. Would you go that deep in a Tri?
stunner81	TVG has a Oaks preview at 8PM.
Ryan Reading	moss pass figures show this race is actually garbage
Matt Bernier	Thanks Steve
Tony Viscardo	agree Stu
brandon	I've read other places that Mo doesn't look his healthiest, so I don't think Repole is sandbagging.
MattIL	gl everyone. go AK
Clocker	Ryan....Comma will be pressed from the start and distance limited
Michael Schwarzkopf	thanks drf and sc and chatters
Tom	Shackleford wins!!
Jamie Milligan	Goodnight Tony!! Have a great Derby!!
Ryan Reading	its gunna be a longshot
Sanjay Bhartia	hey ryan where do the moss pace figues point
stunner81	Repole is a clown!
Fred Reardon	good luck
Tony Viscardo	u too Jamie good luck Use DI
cat thief	Thanks Steve, will check out your blog
wmspt	BRILLIANT!
Sanjay Bhartia	SPEEEED
Ryan Reading	clocker right hell get out but arch n decisive mmnt will beat him if he lays 5 off the lead with the horses rallyn in the turn he has a shot
Buddy Yingling	I think super will pay big no matter what, i mean huge. Good luck everyone.
cscinsurance1	thanks steve!
hayduke	thanks Steve - it will be a fascinating Derby
DRFDerby	Thanks to everyone who joined the chat
bsmath	Thanks
DRFDerby	Good luck on Oaks and Derby Days
Lyric B	thank you steve
wmspt	GOOD LUCK SANJAY
David Korst	Thanks everyone................Good Luck!!!
Sanjay Bhartia	Thanks Steve and everyone
Jamie Milligan	I am using DI and AAA!!
cat thief	how much does .50 all/all/all cost?
DRFDerby	You can get PPs here: http://www.drf.com/store/kentucky-derby-past-performances
Clocker	Ryan.....5,6,7 will be a freight train out of the gate....all will be fading at the top
Sanjay Bhartia	we don't need luck brother
Lyric B	with you Jamie...AAAA
Ryan Reading	everyone wants to look at dialed in but the didnt do there homework
DRFDerby	and follow Steve's blog for both cards: http://www.drf.com/blogs/steven-crist
David Korst	5 w/7 w/ 10 is $120
Ryan Reading	but the comma to the top get it lol
cat thief	I got my friday form already
cscinsurance1	.50 all/all/all = 20x19x18x.50
Ryan Reading	shacleford got a shot to
cscinsurance1	or 19x18x17 if mo scratches
Ryan Reading	nehro will most likeyly be dead from 19 hell be fightn mo
Ryan Reading	all be is expensicve
DRFDerby	You can find a transcript of the chat on this page tomorrow

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