Churchill Downs
Kentucky Derby handcapping chat with Steven Crist
| DRFDerby | Welcome to tonight's Kentucky Derby and Oaks handicapping chat. We'll be talking with Steven Crist starting at 7pm |
| LucindaWalsh100 | Can't wait! |
| wmspt | When will we know the final word on Uncle Mo ? |
| Anthony Aiello | friday |
| Tony Viscardo | i think by tomorrow morning |
| thegreeser | What are your thoughts on Mucho Macho? |
| Joe | this is gonna be cool |
| DRFDerby | Thursday night or Friday morning, according to Mo's owner |
| Steve Tessino | Thanks for nthe chat Steve - Hope Dondo and Junior are well. |
| wmspt | I hope he scratch's, i don't want him to beat me |
| Tony Viscardo | cold exacta ? |
| bsmath | Mucho Macho hasn't been in any G1 Stakes |
| DRFDerby | The transcripts for the first two chats will be available sometime after this chat |
| Tony Viscardo | great I was wondering where last nights was |
| wmspt | Ark derby top two |
| Joe | i tried watching on the versus channel yesterday the live draw and all I got was sound, did anyone else have a problem getting a picture? |
| Karen Martin | that's not my pic on profile, its my mom ( she died young )and its her birthday today. |
| cscinsurance1 | i saw it online |
| Tony Viscardo | w with post 1 ????? |
| cscinsurance1 | but not tv |
| Karen Martin | joe my versus was ok |
| Tony Viscardo | saw it on HRTV |
| wmspt | i love it , odds will be great |
| Tony Viscardo | the best horse racing chan |
| DRFDerby | Transcripts of the previous chats will be posted later tonight |
| 1stsaturdaymay | Steve, do you downgrade any OAKS runners based on the draw? |
| Joe | glad to see churchill track is drying out, tired of having an off track year after year |
| Ianveitch | Steve, I say throw out Mo and use DI as key with arch, thirsty, midnight, shack and nehro. What say you? |
| Kelly Fineis | Hello All! Happy DERBY! |
| Tony Viscardo | every year a longshot gets 2nd |
| Karen Martin | Dialed, Midnight, Mucho |
| Josh Atkinson | Archx3 won't far any better than lookin at lucky did last year |
| wmspt | imo , dialed in is to slow! |
| cscinsurance1 | small horse in big field might be a problem |
| bsmath | Steven isn't here for six minutes. |
| Tony Viscardo | i hate that post 1 |
| Sanjay Bhartia | yeah I think DI is a bet against |
| cscinsurance1 | i agree with wmspt |
| Joe | i like your 3 karen, add shack as your 4th and you have my superfecta |
| DRFDerby | Steven Crist will be joining us at 7pm to talk Derby and Oaks handicapping |
| hayduke | I need rain for my Soldat futures bet at 66-1. |
| Tony Viscardo | feeding the dogs |
| Karen Martin | who is Hammered Hank picking? |
| DRFDerby | or any races on Churchill's Friday and Saturday cards |
| SB9GAMER | anyone in Lousiville w/ an updated Derby Day forecast? |
| Josh Atkinson | wise dan in the alysheba at 15-1 |
| Karen Martin | will do Joe |
| cscinsurance1 | noaa says 40% chance of rain |
| Tony Viscardo | he never wins |
| wmspt | i want his job |
| Steve Tessino | Stay Thirstys last was ugly, but I think he sits the trip with the inside horses dropping back and outside gunning. His chances and value?63 |
| Karen Martin | yeah, give us Hank's bank! |
| cscinsurance1 | mike welsch does a fantastic job!!! |
| Tony Viscardo | yes Mike does |
| Roger Cripps | Good evening Steve. What is your gut feeling about Uncle Mo running or a no go? |
| Tony Viscardo | Any chance P Val runs away ? |
| Plans4College | ST's last was ugly but they put blinkers on him...now the blinkers are off. |
| Josh Atkinson | i have mixed feelings about mike |
| 1stsaturdaymay | I read mike's workout report card, I don't think he particularly liked any of the contestants |
| cat thief | anyone know how the turf course is? |
| MrTokesalot | any early track bias? |
| cscinsurance1 | mo scratches |
| James | Santiva |
| Josh Atkinson | his reports are sometimes conflicting |
| Jackie Bushore | i think they'll scratch mo |
| Sanjay Bhartia | pval may hang on for a super placing but i can't see that horse getting the dist |
| cscinsurance1 | @1stsatnmay, it's a weak crop |
| Karen Martin | mo will be no mo |
| Roger Cripps | Me too from what I have heard |
| Josh Atkinson | CTTT won't get the 1 1/4 miles |
| cscinsurance1 | maybe they'll all run dead last |
| Terry smith | Lets see Mike picked Barbaro and loved Rachel if she ran in the derby |
| Joe | if mo does run, which i dont think he will, he will be a good play against, bad PP and not healthy enough to compete |
| Jackie Bushore | i think nehro's got it with the extra distance he didnt have in the louisiana and arkansas |
| cscinsurance1 | we all get our $ back in 20 horse photo less take |
| Karen Martin | who would you toss out of this race? |
| stunner81 | Mucho Macho Man wins!!! |
| Tony Viscardo | 1/2 the horses |
| Jackie Bushore | watch me go |
| Josh Atkinson | pletcher said if the derby would be running tomarrow mo would run |
| Jackie Bushore | no chance |
| RX | stay thirsty |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Good evening and thanks to everyone for coming. |
| Mickey Micklaus | I find this Derby Chat format a bit overwhelming. |
| gomezj323 | Auto toss post 1 |
| RX | how is the weather going to be tomorrow |
| 1stsaturdaymay | Tosses - Uncle Mo, Derby Kitten, Master of Hounds, Brilliant Spped etc etc |
| DRFDerby | Welcome everyone - Steven Crist has joined us on the chat - let's start by going over his picks for the Derby |
| gomezj323 | evening |
| Tony Viscardo | hey Steve |
| DRFSteven_Crist | My top Derby picks, which were due Wednesday right after the draw, were Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat... |
| RX | why is post 1 bad |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Obviously I was not pleased to read today that now they're not certain Uncle Mo will even start... |
| Jackie Bushore | toss them all and give us a stronger crop of 3 year olds |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Obviously I was not pleased to read today that now they're not certain Uncle Mo will even start... |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Obviously I was not pleased to read today that now they're not certain Uncle Mo will even start... |
| Sanjay Bhartia | Steve- are you against all the turf/synthetic horses as per usual? |
| James | Steve, can you explain the trainer changes for Soldat? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | If Mo starts, I'll still include him but this isn't the way you want to see a horse come into the Derby. |
| Tony Viscardo | No Dialed In Steve? |
| Bob Decelle | steve what did you like about master of hounds?? |
| Josh Atkinson | @ RX watch last years derby |
| Mike | Jeff Bonde is a great trainer with young horses, what do you think of his chances with Twice The Appeal, especially with improving Beyers? |
| gomezj323 | If he does start, do you throw him out? |
| Karen Martin | why Master? not fond of him |
| Joe | surprised you like mo steve, he just doesn't look himself |
| RX | mo too unpreditable |
| Tony Viscardo | Surprised no DI |
| RX | anyone know wht the wether will be |
| Sanjay Bhartia | well i guess you like MOH so not totally... |
| Tony Viscardo | Master has the linage of derby winners and gomez |
| Josh Atkinson | @ RX 40% chance of showers |
| bsmath | Master is a turf horse |
| cscinsurance1 | 40% chance of rain |
| 1stsaturdaymay | Steve, what's your strongest A in the derby undercard? Particularly the pick 4 into the derby? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | On Macho -- I like him, I picked him second. Ran well at 2 despite being huge colt who hadn't figured things out... |
| Joe | Dialed in always fires and has a good PP, if de doesnt win he will at least be in the mix |
| RX | thanks |
| DRFSteven_Crist | I loved his Risen Star and give him a pass for the Louisiana Derby |
| phil | When is Churchill Downs going to allow also eligibles for the KY Derby |
| Karen Martin | 100% chance of ugly hats |
| Roger Cripps | Hi Steve, If Mo scratches for sure, who would you replace him with in my Oaks/Derby double, I already have4,8,10,13 and 17. |
| RX | are smaller horses better |
| James | give us the rundown on Pants On Fire |
| DRFSteven_Crist | On Master of Hounds -- Normally I would toss him but this is a spotty Derby field. I think you have to creative. |
| Joe | I like pants on fire PP, could hit the board but don't think will win |
| Tony Viscardo | macho makes for a good story |
| Joe | I have him ranked #5 |
| Steve Tessino | What about Thirsty Steve. I think Ramon will be able to get position in the first turn, and think the Fl race is a toss |
| Terry smith | Steve What about Animal Kingdom? |
| Tony Viscardo | one of the worst crop of 3 yr ever . |
| Mickey Micklaus | Yes, what ABOUT Animal Kingdom? |
| cscinsurance1 | lol @karen martin |
| Buddy Yingling | Master of Hounds won't even be in the money. |
| DRFSteven_Crist | On stay thirsty -- Even if you toss his FLA Derby I think he has to improve a lot off his Gotham to be competitive. |
| Tony Viscardo | this is what poly has given us |
| stunner81 | Summer Soiree and Daisy Devine in the Oaks |
| Karen Martin | steve on 50 cent tri- is that only straight bets? ie, does it apply to wheels/boxes or not? |
| Steve Tessino | Soldat had a tough trip lto, but I don't trust Garcia to get him out of the gate |
| Buddy Yingling | Soldat and Uncle Mo are only horses with a 100+ Beyer |
| Buddy Yingling | Anybody who hasn't broken 95 Beyer is suspect. |
| Jackie Bushore | Steve, how about Archarcharch in the 1 hole? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Throw outs? I'm not sold on the fave..Dialed In's a nice horse but maybe no better than ones who will be 3x the price |
| Tony Viscardo | Arch was my horse is it over w the 1 hole |
| bsmath | Stay Thirsty has Kentucky Derby pedigree |
| stunner81 | If its real sloppy, I make a big bet on Soldat |
| cat thief | Steve, what do you make of Soldat, he's one of your 4? |
| Joe | I would have strongly considered master of hounds if they would have gotten him here 2 wks ago to get him some works over the CD track. |
| William H. Davis | What about MI for 2nd or 3rd |
| Sanjay Bhartia | Hey Steve I'm taking the view that Brilliant Speed's dirt races were poor b/c he was clearly a slow developer and not incapable. Thoughts? |
| James Cary | Steve: I wonder about Soldats ability to get the distance, am I off base here |
| RX | sloppy how about shakelford |
| Roger Cripps | I was thinking Baffert's horse, Midnight Interlude to replace Uncle Mo if scratched in my O/D double. |
| 1stsaturdaymay | Who are your OAKS picks? I'm against Joyful, love the horse on the outside by the post is a concern. |
| Buddy Yingling | Soldat ran a 103 Beyer in the slop at a mile and eighth, he can get the distance |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Strongest A in Derby undercard stakes is Hilda's Passion in the Humana. |
| bsmath | Soldat will do good if it rains I hear. |
| John Gamble | Looking at Soldat, Midnite Interlude, and Animal Kingdom for my ex box |
| Josh Atkinson | how do you feel about shackleford? |
| Arturo Laguna | sat weather forecast 30% precpitation,73degrees |
| James | Steve- Case against Nehro? |
| Tony Viscardo | an idea for future derbies only earnings that count are DIRT earnings . this is a joke |
| Karen Martin | Dialed In/ Animal kingdom exacta? my birthday numbers, 8-16. any chance? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | On Soldat -- I'm not sold on his getting the distance but I think he has a world of talent |
| cscinsurance1 | Steve, who was your last derby winner pick? |
| Steve Tessino | @James - Nehro is due to bounce after two big efforts. Oh...wrong Steve? |
| Anthony Aiello | who are your top 3 for the oaks ? |
| stunner81 | Soldat didn't seem to care for the heat |
| cat thief | Steve, what do you make of Soldat's last...I have a hard time forgiving that one |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Archarcharch -- the 1-hole doesn't bother me that much because I expect him to make one run from way back... |
| DRFSteven_Crist | I think he's going to be a little over-bet at 8-1/10-1. |
| Alex Remington | Hi Steve, since there's so much sameness to the field, would you perhaps put more emphasis on post position in your selections? |
| cscinsurance1 | steve, your thoughts on Nehro? |
| Terry smith | any comment on animal kingdom? |
| Tracy | At least organized |
| Tony Viscardo | arch was working the best |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Nehro -- I don't like that he was in perfect position to win his last 2 and didn't. |
| Jackie Bushore | I want to hear about Nehro and Animal Kingdom, too. |
| John Gamble | .Steve, Thanks for chatting with us tonight. How would you rate the prep races as they relate to the Derby? |
| Tony Viscardo | why would u not use him steve |
| bigcoumbe | Steve, is ZAZU a major player tomorrow, or are figs inflated due to SA surface? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | In the Oaks, I'm leaning towards the western fillies, Zazu and Plum Pretty. Think R Heat Lightning was best of them |
| Roger Cripps | I have a feeling big longshot in th Oaks, Im going with the all |
| James | one more steve. i hear that Santiva had his wolf teeth removed. does this set him up for a big effort? |
| cscinsurance1 | but you like uncle mo? he was in perf position to. no? |
| Sanjay Bhartia | St.John's River! |
| bigcoumbe | Steve, I'm really starting to like SHACK in the derby. win over the track, has rated previously, and a neck seperates |
| RX | how about posts on the outside |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Better to bet exotics or tris/supers? That's totally a matter of personal preference. |
| stunner81 | Steven, what do you think MMM's odds will go off at? |
| phil | thinking this is a weak crop..best horse mo is less than 100% |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Play whichever you think you're best at... |
| Jackie Bushore | Steve, how do you feel about Watch Me Go? Does he even deserve to be in this field? |
| Kevan Smotherman | Steve, which Mineshaft closer do you like better to fill out the bottom of my greyhound style exotic wheel, Nehro or Dailed? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | If you're usually a super player, remember there's a $1 min. Oaks/Derby Day instead of $0.10. |
| MrTokesalot | If western fillies win Oaks, do you put more emphasis on SA Derby? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Maybe consider 50-cent tris instead. |
| RX | what about all those outside posts is that bad |
| hayduke | Steve - could you identify the horses in your responses. Because of the chat format, sometimes hard to know whose question you're responding |
| DRFSteven_Crist | You can get the whole betting menu on my blog |
| Karen Martin | but can you box on .50 tris or just straight bets? |
| gomezj323 | If Uncle Mo does run, is he still on top of your list? |
| Joe | I'm still high on Nehro and think he can win from the 19 post. Your thoughts on him please. |
| cscinsurance1 | serve me up something exotic, Steven |
| RX | u can box |
| John Gamble | box |
| Karen Martin | thanks |
| RX | i dont see how a horse could win from post 19 |
| cat thief | Steve, who moves up if a T-shower hits? |
| wmspt | Big brown won from 20 |
| Bob | 19 ? See Big Brown ..... |
| Sanjay Bhartia | the 50cent tri is good news for those that don't feel like going broke |
| DRFSteven_Crist | The tri minimum is 50 cents whether straight or boxed |
| bigcoumbe | RX. Big brown won from 20.. |
| DRFDerby | We're chatting with DRF's Steven Crist until 8 pm on handicapping the Derby and Oaks cards |
| Ianveitch | Steve, now that you know the latest regarding mo, are you still going to use him? seems a bad bet to me. |
| Buddy Yingling | Exotics will pay big in this one I think. |
| RX | what post are usually in it |
| Ken Hendrix | midnite had the fastest mile and eighth |
| Michael Schwarzkopf | There seems to be a lot of speed in the race, would you favor a speed type over a closer. Does it make sense to group them in pick 3's etc |
| Anthony Aiello | what do you think about her smile and st. johns |
| bigcoumbe | thoughts on SHACK. win over track. has rated before. a neck behind the fav.... |
| stunner81 | Stevie, who do you like in the Oaks??? |
| Mickey Micklaus | Yes, Shackleford thoughts, please. |
| David Korst | We played a nice 5 horse/7 horse/10 horse 50 cent tri for $120 |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Animal Kingdom and Brilliant Speed -- I can't take them off their poly races... |
| gomezj323 | @Ken - Fastests on an extremely fast SA track |
| DRFSteven_Crist | I always assume these horses are on poly because they didn't train well on dirt. |
| Jamie Milligan | What about BO-RAIL on the 3? |
| dagenhamdon | Has anyone won from the 1st post position? |
| Kelly Fineis | Love Shack..but the Storm Cat jinx? |
| Tony Viscardo | if calvin wins on this donkey I give up |
| RX | how was the track today |
| Jamie Milligan | Can you tell me more about Track Bias at CD Steve? |
| stunner81 | Bo-Rail is riding a donkey. No chance. |
| phil | if we use mr spock-like logic, shackleford because of his fine work over the surface has to be used |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Shackleford -- if he couldn't last at 9.5 on a speed track, I can't see him getting 10 with more speed in the race. |
| John Gamble | fast as lightning |
| Tony Viscardo | I still say dialed in runs by them ALL |
| RX | maybe 3rd or 4th for calvin |
| Barry R | FAST AND FIRM |
| bigcoumbe | steve, you like PLUM in the Oaks, do you think she can wire....appears to be pace to keep her honest. |
| RX | dialed got a good post |
| Buddy Yingling | true about Borel on the 3, eh Steve? Donkey? |
| Barry R | SPEED HELD VERY WELL |
| Max Worth | Mo and Dialed In are the only legit horses |
| AnonSkiLawProf | thoughts on Midnight Interlude? Improving at the right time? |
| Sanjay Bhartia | Calvin has obviously become overrated in KDs but I have a bad feeling the donkey may sneak in for a piece! |
| RX | so closers are going to win this race |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Twice the Appeal -- no shot at all. His Sunland Derby was the same day... |
| Tony Viscardo | i agree max |
| cscinsurance1 | mo and DI are bets against |
| DRFSteven_Crist | as the Sunland Oaks and Plum Pretty ran much faster. |
| Barry R | EVERY PREP HAS BEEN A BOMB ,,,WHY NOT THE BIG ONE???? |
| David Korst | Uncle Mo is a toss!! |
| Bob | Mo is overhyped like Bandini was |
| RX | mo is sick anyways |
| DRFDerby | If you're just joining us, Steve's Oaks picks are Zazu and Plum Pretty |
| RX | he a pooing |
| wmspt | BRILLIANT |
| Tony Viscardo | i agree bout Mo but not Di |
| stunner81 | Stevie, thoughts on Daisy Devine? |
| Sanjay Bhartia | SPEED |
| RX | decisve moment |
| DRFDerby | In the Derby Steve's selections after the draw were Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat |
| Troy Mix | Any advice on how to differentiate the synthetic preps? How does Keeneland's course play vs. Turfway's? |
| Max Worth | Soldat if it's muddly |
| wmspt | YES |
| cscinsurance1 | DI is too slow of a closer. there are better |
| cscinsurance1 | or faster closers |
| David Korst | Dialed in will be in the tri.................AAA is a toss too |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Top Preps? The five G1 preps were all sub-par... they were decided by two necks, two heads, and a nose... |
| Jamie Milligan | What about Track Bias at CD? |
| Tony Viscardo | Steve thoughts on P VAL ? |
| Jackie Bushore | I want to hear about Watch Me Go. |
| wmspt | DRUGY |
| Tony Viscardo | Yes but they were GD 1's |
| TonyP_68 | does arch3 have a shot breaking form post 1 |
| cscinsurance1 | di=dialed in 4:1 ML |
| Bob | Watch me lose... If you bet him |
| AnonSkiLawProf | what about Midnight Interlude? |
| bsmath | DI is Dialed In |
| Bob | he is so so cheap |
| stunner81 | Anybody? Thoughts on Daisy Devine? |
| Justin Brownstein | Steve can you rank the following horses after post from your fave to least fave: Mucho, Midnight, Nehro, Soldat, Animal kingdom, Pants on Fi |
| Shaman Krauss | albarado ok on animal? |
| John Gamble | 5th best filly in the race |
| David Korst | Midnight Interlude will run good.........Baffert has them ready |
| Sanjay Bhartia | yes daisy devine is a play |
| Kelly Fineis | Im all in on Daisy! |
| Clocker | To be honest, this Derby field might have only a handful of grade I talent |
| Mark | Dialed In looks good, especially since the 5,6,&7 horses to his inside are the rabbits |
| Kevan Smotherman | lose this format, I'm here to hear the comments of a pro handicapper and author not a bunch of bozo's. |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Watch me Go -- won a terrible Tampa Derby. None of his 10 races put him in the ballpark. |
| Ken Hendrix | daisy is working great use her |
| Barry R | he is bucking a miilion years of derby readition but baffert is still baffert |
| Michael Schwarzkopf | who are you 'a' horses |
| slewobarney | Hi Steve, which horses would you throw out of your tris, supers based on post position? |
| Steve Tessino | Thoughts on the Alysheba? Regal Ransom is inconsistent, but I don't see anyone staying with him early...and 10/1 is nice |
| Max Worth | I agree Kevan |
| stunner81 | thanks |
| cat thief | Steve, any thoughts on Unrivaled Belle or the La Troienne in general? |
| Michael Rubino | what is your trif and superfecta play? |
| bigcoumbe | MMM is this years ten most wanted |
| David Korst | I think Soldat is sitting on a big race too..........may be first into the stretch |
| Anthony Aiello | what do you think about her smile and st. johns in the oaks |
| Jackie Bushore | I'd like to hear about the Woodford Reserve, too. This field is packed with talent. |
| DRFDerby | Thanks for participating in the chat. Steve's full analysis will be on his blog |
| Ivan Onna | Alysheba = Wise Dan |
| Edward Barraza | what are the chances of shackleford |
| John Gamble | steve- who are your AA selections leading up to the derby for the pic 3 or 4 |
| AnonSkiLawProf | Steve...Midnight Interlude and Pants on Fire....thoughts, please. |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Daisy Devine -- has a shot if she improves off her last... and she might since that was her off a layoff |
| stunner81 | I still gotta go with Summer Soiree though. |
| Ivan Onna | Zazu is the synch of the day |
| Arturo Laguna | Daisy Devine hasforward moving line and offers lots of value. I'm boxing her with Zazu and Kathmanblu in the exacta. |
| 1stsaturdaymay | For anyone who likes Daisy Devine, don't you have to also like St John's River? |
| Tony Viscardo | don't count Larry Jones out |
| Jamie Milligan | What about Master of hounds? Has a strong Beyer in last race. |
| DRFSteven_Crist | As for AEs in the Derby, they really should have them. |
| Sanjay Bhartia | i don't mind hearing from the bozos...we're all race fans |
| Stu Schreiber | Zazu been crying for more ground and sweeping turns; go to the window |
| Tony Viscardo | jamie that was on poly |
| Shaman Krauss | All gray in the Oaks? |
| bsmath | Shackleford is Kentucky bred and did good in preps |
| Anthony Aiello | st johns is the sleeper in this race |
| AnonSkiLawProf | I would like to hear your thoughts on Pants on Fire, steve. |
| Clocker | Derby should have AEs...but really wouldn't want to see any more of these types of horses this year |
| Karen Martin | me too Sanjay I learn from other's posts |
| Tony Viscardo | THis poly thing has ruined a great race |
| Ivan Onna | Zazu was making ground in the Santa Anita asphalt track...is theplay of the day |
| Jamie Milligan | Thanks Tony!! What do you know about track bias at Churchill? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | The Woodford Reserve is a great betting race... At least 6 of them could be noses apart at the finish |
| Justin Brownstein | Steve can you rank the following horses after post draw fave to least fave: Mucho, Midnight, Nehro, Soldat, Animal kingdom, Pants on Fi |
| Stu Schreiber | Ivan, concur, galloped out six in front |
| Dustin W | Steve, are you going to stab at the Derby superfecta? If so, are you using a key or throwing darts? Bankroll? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Midnight Interlude -- I need to see more than catching Comma to the Top. |
| Ivan Onna | Stu she will be my single the Late P4 |
| Arturo Laguna | Joyful Victory is too slow-a vulnerable favorite. Her Ragozin number is a 9 and top Beyer is 88 |
| Todd | I am a late arrival - - What do you think of Soldat and Nehro Steve? |
| stunner81 | I am loving Home Sweet Aspen in the Eight Belles. |
| Lyric B | Can AAA be the first out of 1 hole since Shoe w/ Ferdinand in '86? 50+ on jocks! |
| DRFSteven_Crist | I'm not playing the Derby superfecta because of the $1 minimum... it would be tough enough for a dime. |
| Stu Schreiber | stunner, go to the window |
| cscinsurance1 | @todd, he didn't like nehro coulda won but dint in last 2 |
| Tony Viscardo | i think track bias as on ALL big days will be FAST and Speed which scares me |
| DRFDerby | Steve's Derby selections were Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat for those just joining |
| Todd | Thanks CSC |
| DRFDerby | In the Okas, leaning Zazu and Plum Pretty |
| Stu Schreiber | Mo will scratch! |
| cscinsurance1 | steve, this could be your year. swing 4 the fences |
| Jamie Milligan | So who do you like Tony? |
| Karen Martin | 2 bucks on Twice the appeal just because italians bet on 3. tradition |
| Steve Tessino | Hey Steve - have to concur about the moderated chat being better.I'll catch the transcript later. Give Dondo and Junior a extra biscuit 4 me |
| AnonSkiLawProf | thoughts on Pants on Fire? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | The La Troienne looks like a 2 horse race... |
| DRFSteven_Crist | I'll be starting my Pick 6 off with just Blind Luck and Unrivaled Belle as A's. |
| Tony Viscardo | I like DI , Arch and Soldat and 1 of the frontrunners |
| Josh Atkinson | blind luck! |
| Michael Schwarzkopf | are your picks value picks or the horse u think will win |
| Tony Viscardo | need to see the weather 1st if it rains put in ALL on Soldat |
| Ghostzapper04 | Steve - are you concerned that Mo will be keen early after his gallop this morning? |
| Stu Schreiber | Pletcher won't take a chance with Mo after last year's debacle in Breeders Cup |
| hayduke | I think Mission Impazible is coming into the Alysheba great |
| Sanjay Bhartia | Tony maybe has a point- that has been my anecdotal experience |
| Ivan Onna | La Troinee - All Due Respect, very dangerous |
| stunner81 | Wise Dan in the Alysheba if its sloppy. |
| Mark | Will Archarcharch get mugged on the rail? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Pants of Fire -- can't see him getting a step for 9F. |
| Jamie Milligan | But if it rains won't they seal the track at Churchill? |
| gomezj323 | Caracortado, a toss off dirt form? |
| Stu Schreiber | What's the weather report for tomorrow? |
| DRFDerby | Steve - who are your top bet-againsts Friday or Saturday? |
| cscinsurance1 | arch is going to break out and take out 3 at the start |
| Sanjay Bhartia | Steve any thoughts on distance pedigrees? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | I'm not sold on Joyful Victory, the 5-2 ML favorite in the Oaks... |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Her figs are slow and she wasn't facing top ones... |
| cscinsurance1 | domino |
| Saratoga Sam | interesting that Bill Mott said Moocho Macho Man and Shakleford look the best to the Eye. |
| stunner81 | Stevie, whats your best longshot play on Friday or Saturday? |
| Lyric B | Steve, thoughts on AAA/Court compared to Ferdinand/Shoe '86 |
| DRFSteven_Crist | I'm also not sold on the Derby ML fave... |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Dialed In's a nice horse but maybe no better than ones who will be 3x the price |
| Stu Schreiber | Lyric, you've got to be kidding |
| gomezj323 | if the scratch MO, I think post 1 will have a way better position |
| Ivan Onna | Dialed In - Play against |
| Josh Atkinson | Ax3 will get mugged or take out horses none of which is a good situation...pass |
| Lyric B | stu--question is can he win from the 1 hole |
| Tony Viscardo | SaR every time i bet on how a horse looks I LOSE . Ha |
| Stu Schreiber | no |
| Josh Atkinson | no |
| FrostyFeast | Steve, what do you think of Arienza in the Eight Belles? Could she have gone in the Oaks? |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Lyric B: AAA is no Ferdinand and Court is no Shoe |
| gomezj323 | Lyric, watch Lookin at Lucky from last years race. Notice how he lost the race at the start of it |
| Lyric B | race shape is nice for him -- training amazing |
| Tony Viscardo | I don't agree Steve . Look at the way DI passes horses in his races . Like they are standing still |
| Stu Schreiber | Steve, amen! |
| brandon | Hey Steve, what did you think of Finger Lakes when you were there a couple of weeks ago? |
| wmspt | NOT YET |
| Sanjay Bhartia | in other words no win from the 1 hole! |
| Clocker | Steve: If Uncle Mo decides to scratch out, next possible race? Met Mile against underwhelming older horses possible? |
| cscinsurance1 | tony, it's visual. 10k claimers can do the same thing |
| Ghostzapper04 | Tony - DI *barely* got up to beat Shackleford... |
| Stu Schreiber | Don't be surprised if Mo is retired! |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Brandon: I had a great time at Finger Lakes and they have a great adoption program. |
| hayduke | Tony - they were standing still! |
| Ivan Onna | Steve, chances of Uncle Mo running? I'll say 25% |
| Tony Viscardo | He Beat him and he |
| Stu Schreiber | Ivan, I'll say 10% |
| jkearns33168 | Steve, are you plaing Pick 6's or trying the Pick 5 and 4's? |
| Josh Atkinson | pletcher said mo is go if the race was tommarrow |
| Sanjay Bhartia | maybe Repole should give Mo some vitamin water...that'll cure him |
| Lyric B | My top 5 -- Trends are made to be broken. AAA,MMM, DI, AK, MI |
| Tony Viscardo | He's out of Mineshaft who gets the Dist and Zito knows how to win a derby |
| David Korst | Does it matter if Uncle Mo scratches..........keep him in.........more money in all the pools paid out to the others |
| TonyP_68 | even if mo runs he wont be 100% and anything less wont win this race |
| wmspt | ZITO COULD BEAT DI |
| James Giliberto | clocker...summer campaign for mo...jim dandy travers breeder classic |
| JSwiss | Steve - who do you like in the Woodford Reserve? Think thats a tough race. |
| cscinsurance1 | 90% might do it in this fied |
| Stu Schreiber | Anybody want to guess how many breeders cup winners won derby? |
| DRFDerby | Welcome to everyone on the chat, we're handicapping the Derby and Oaks cards with Steven Crist |
| cscinsurance1 | field |
| Mark | There are a lot of horses in the Derby with only synthetic experience. Should they be tossed? |
| Justin Brownstein | There is positive and negatives to Mo scratching. Positive AAA will move to the 2 with a dead closer at the 3. Neg=odds drop everywhere |
| Ken | Steven:And Mo is no Secretariat! |
| Shaman Krauss | Mo shouldn't run if there's a chance of breakdown - hearing injured, not 'sick' |
| Clint Speers | Steve. $100 to bet on Derby. How would you bet? |
| Lyric B | had Ice Box last year -- does DI have a similar race in him? |
| Clocker | James....might not go that way with Indian Charlie influences. Still needs to be answered |
| DRFDerby | Steve's full analysis will be on his blog and he'll be live blogging Derby and Oaks day |
| slewobarney | Odds on a Mineshaft (Di & Nehro) exacta? |
| cat thief | Steve, are you including Master, because other Euros have done well on the Churchill track, or just looking for an alternative? |
| Michael Schwarzkopf | uncle mo is the best 90% Mo is better than these. What % was he in wood? |
| Saratoga Sam | Did anyone notice that Soldat was #17 in the first future pool and now he's #17 in the derby. Now there's a hunch bet! |
| TonyP_68 | hpe everyone bets on mo so I can get more fo rmy horse |
| Anthony Aiello | whats your thoughts on the other horses in the oaks |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Am I playing Pick 6 vs. Pick 5 vs. Pick 4? All of the above |
| wmspt | MMM WON'T GET THE DISTANCE |
| SuperFly Snuka | What are your thoughts on Animal Kingdom - can he be succesful on dirt? |
| stunner81 | AAA won't move to the 2 hole. They will move over 19 and 20. |
| TonyP_68 | 95% in wood |
| Sanjay Bhartia | come out of retirement Jimmy! |
| Clint Speers | Pick 4 |
| gomezj323 | Whats the bankroll for the weekend Steven? If you dont mind me asking |
| James Giliberto | clocker...that was the word i read somewhere today he would not run in any other of the classics and be pointed for those races |
| Justin Brownstein | Stunner I heard otherwise. I do not know the correct answer |
| Matt Bernier | Steve, favorite stakes race on the Saturday card? Woodford Reserve? |
| cscinsurance1 | mo will be outta gas before 1 1/8 |
| SuperFly Snuka | Sanjay - I'm did to bankroll my Derby |
| David Korst | Mo should run if he can run.............if he's sick then scratch him...............Not on my tickets anyways............... |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Cat Thief: I'm just looking for a stranger in a weak year. |
| jkearns33168 | Steve, the ALysheba looks tough. Who are your A's as of now? B's too if you've looked at it that closeely |
| Dustin W | I recall hearing Larry Jones compare Joyful Victory to Eight Belles just before the Fantasy...just curious why you don't care for her. |
| stunner81 | They said it on VS. today. Randy Moss said it. |
| Joe Justus | nobody interested in Nehro? |
| brandon | I couldn't agree with you more on Finger Lakes adoption program and not being sold on Dialed In. What is your take on Midnight Interlude? |
| SB9GAMER | $100 to bet on the derby - what you got Steve? |
| David Korst | Rosie may run well..............and Pants on Fire could be in nice post for this race |
| Bob | This chat is a mad scramble into the first turn... Just like the derby... you cannot handicap any derby.. not realistic... its a true racing |
| Josh Atkinson | nehro looked good when he got to kentucky but since then he hasn't looked as good |
| Stu Schreiber | Brandon, Midnight was Baffert's 5th best 3 yr old at beginning of SA |
| wmspt | NEHRO WILL BE ITM |
| David Korst | Nehro will be in top 3 |
| Roberta | Soldat splashes home 1st. |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Matt: I really like the Churchill Downs at 7F for older horses... |
| DRFSteven_Crist | in the CD, I'll look at Here Comes Ben at 10-1 |
| SuperFly Snuka | Soldat looks to be the forgotten horse - I'm hoping to get > 10:1 on him. |
| brandon | Yes he was, but he is progressing RAPIDLY. |
| Michael Schwarzkopf | my prediction based on this chat - every horse will be bet - one might win |
| James Giliberto | clocker...from bloodhorse areticle today on their website quoting repole...If Uncle Mo misses the Derby, he would not contest either the Pre |
| wmspt | BRILLIANT |
| Tony Viscardo | except Watch me go !! ha |
| James Giliberto | If Uncle Mo misses the Derby, he would not contest either the Preakness (gr. I) or Belmont Stakes (gr. I), Repole said, adding he would be p |
| DRFDerby | For the newcomers - Steve's Derby selections are Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat |
| stunner81 | Stevi, what will MMM's odds go off at? |
| Sanjay Bhartia | SPEED |
| bsmath | Maybe dead heat |
| Roberta | Nailed Here Comes Ben and Big Drama at the Spa. 7f specialist. |
| Ghostzapper04 | Steve - can you explain why you're interested in Here Comes Ben? Signficant layoff into a G1 |
| lukas | $1 trifecta: 6 by 8 by 10 for a total wager of $240. pick the right horses and get ready to claim. |
| Brian Peeples | Steven...Mo and Master in your top 3? What do you see that everyone else doesn't? |
| SuperFly Snuka | Does anyone have a read on Master of Hounds? |
| Ghostzapper04 | Nor will he get a fast pace to close into... |
| wmspt | WINS |
| Josh Atkinson | I like they way animal kingdom, brilliant speed and shackleford have been training |
| Sanjay Bhartia | GOING AWAY |
| Stephen | What -- No Santiva fans? |
| Michael Schwarzkopf | unless u are using all different horse it would cost less |
| Jamie Milligan | I see MOH but not MO. He was a good 2 year old though!! |
| Ken Hendrix | master slow work today bad call |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Layoff on Ben is a concern... but he's run well fresh before. |
| Tony Viscardo | Steve for Super why not just use all for 4th with a cold 1,2,3, in front |
| wmspt | CHA-CHING |
| Clocker | James...He would need a prep before the Jim Dandy in that case. I can't see them going to Travers without getting distance in JD though |
| Clocker | Still a long ways away I suppose |
| Josh Atkinson | here comes ben, long layoff, coming into a G1 = pass |
| Kelly Fineis | Santiva, 3 diff trainers..why? |
| Aaron Halterman | Not high on Santiva. Good question about the trainers Kelly |
| Roberta | Here Comes Ben Loves Churchill, 7f and mud! |
| Saratoga Sam | I think P. Val. will try to wire the field, especially if it rains. |
| Tony Viscardo | I agree Sam he scares me the guy can ride |
| Ghostzapper04 | Doesn't he need a quick pace too Roberta? Won't get that on Saturday. |
| Josh Atkinson | noble's promise looks better than here comes ben |
| cscinsurance1 | that's p vals only hope |
| Ken Hendrix | will the pants b on fire good work last |
| James Cary | Here comes Ben is 7f specialist who beat Big Drama on one of his good days. Im in |
| Lyric B | Steve, who are you most scared of with the Derby not in your top 3 |
| cscinsurance1 | but there are 5 others who want the same thing |
| Shaman Krauss | Court has been riding well - Can he place Arch in decent early position? |
| hayduke | roberta - see you at the WINdow with HCBen |
| DRFDerby | We're talking Derby and Oaks cards with Steven Crist until 8pm |
| Lyric B | i mean top 4 |
| MattIL | Will Mo run? I sure hope so, as I think he has no shot. |
| Tony Viscardo | Sha no he will make one run from the back |
| cscinsurance1 | steve's gone for coffee...back in a moment |
| Roberta | Pace would help, drawing outside is good at 7f. |
| DRFDerby | Watch his blog at drf.com/blogs/steven-crist for more analysis |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Santiva -- even if you toss his Blue Gras, why should he beat Mucho Macho Man? |
| wmspt | HE IS AN ALSO RAN |
| Joel Sandlin | is forecast for rain still 50% |
| Lyric B | Steve, who's your #5 in the Derby |
| Aaron Halterman | Agree, say no to Santiva |
| Arturo Laguna | Of all 20 horses MOH is most proven at distance 2nd at 1-3/16 albeit on tapeta. He is only Raise A native line -8 of last 11 derbies.... |
| Shaman Krauss | Tony - thanks, understood but can he avoid box in? |
| FairOdds | Steve, what's the A/B/C breakdown of ur Derby picks for ur Pick 6 ticket? |
| cscinsurance1 | i think his #5 is ALL |
| Jacob Luft | we should be patient. Steven can only answer one question at a time |
| Clocker | Santiva's excuse in Derby: (fill in blank) |
| Aaron Halterman | Court is a great jockey, but can anyone avoid a box in from that spot? |
| Stu Schreiber | Steve, your selections sound like you've been talking too much with Andy Beyer. I don't think he's picked the Derby winner in twenty years. |
| stunner81 | I am loving Battle of Hastings in the Woodford. |
| Tony Viscardo | i don;t know he was my key until the 1 post |
| Roberta | Soldat, Mucho Macho Man and Pants on fire. |
| Aaron Halterman | Mine too...was loving Archarcharch until that stupid post! |
| Tony Viscardo | funny Stu |
| cscinsurance1 | @jacob but the derby poses several ?'s |
| slewobarney | If there was ever talk of limiting the field to 14 and removing the auxil gate, would you be in favor? |
| Saratoga Sam | I hope NBC does a good job....racing really needs a good shot in the arm |
| Ian Salon | kentucky oaks? who is your pick? |
| Tony Viscardo | After last year with L@L in that post its tough |
| Aaron Halterman | Yes I would slew |
| wmspt | POST DON'T MEAN ..... IF HE'S GOOD ENOUGH |
| Shaman Krauss | Me too Tony, soldat in the mud and shackleford any which way. |
| MattIL | Did Steve make his picks? Can someone repost |
| Joel Sandlin | I see a fast pace, with Nehro running past em all late |
| DRFDerby | Steve's Oaks picks are Zazu and Plum Pretty |
| DRFDerby | Derby: Mo/Mucho/Master/Soldat |
| Lyric B | Trends made to be broken Aaron Still like AAA |
| DRFDerby | for those just joining |
| Ian Salon | really |
| MattIL | ty |
| Jamie Milligan | I am going for AAA anyway. If you are a good horse you can win from any position in my humble opinion lol!! |
| cat thief | Steve, which horses will you add to your derby picks if it rains? |
| Tony Viscardo | don't worry steve only 15 more min of this madness .......:) |
| MattIL | If Steve wins I get crushed. lol |
| Aaron Halterman | Hope you are right Lyric! Will be pulling for him |
| Aaron Halterman | haha, agree Matt. |
| Tony Viscardo | I hope so Jamie . It would be great for court |
| stunner81 | Who do you like Ian? I got Summer Soiree |
| Josh Atkinson | i gave up on the 1 post last year when i saw what happened to L@L |
| Joel Sandlin | nehro gets the w |
| Clocker | MattIL: I don't like Steve's picks either...but that's why this might be a good betting race |
| Ian Salon | me too |
| DRFSteven_Crist | In the Saturday Pick 6, I'll try to get alive to 7 Derby horses... |
| MattIL | agreed stunner |
| Ian Salon | love summer soiree |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Uncle Mo, Mucho Macho Man, Master of Hounds, Soldat, Dialed In, Archarcharch, and someone I'm forgetting |
| Lyric B | Me 2--- been on a roll here...with my $100WPS over the years |
| Matt Bernier | Stunner, the only thing in the Woodford I'm expecting is Court Vision to be sorely overbet |
| Jackie Bushore | I want to see Battle of Hastings win the Woodford. |
| Ian Salon | stunner--i love summer soiree |
| stunner81 | Agreed Matt. His days are over. |
| Michael Schwarzkopf | is the winner the one you forgot? |
| MattIL | im on Shack and the freight train that is Animal Kingdom |
| cscinsurance1 | could it be the winner? |
| Jamie Milligan | I like Animal Kingdom too. I LOVE TAX TICKETS!! |
| wmspt | $50 EXA BOX 1 & 2 |
| Mark | Should the synthetic experience be ignored? |
| MattIL | jamie he will be bet down. wont be tax ticket |
| Roberta | Yes |
| Michael Schwarzkopf | why will mo get the distance? |
| Ian Salon | summer soiree looks tremendous |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Derby field: 20 is too many, maybe 16? |
| cscinsurance1 | mutual of omaha should sponsor animal kingdom |
| Buddy Yingling | Midnight Interlude Steve? |
| Tony Viscardo | I like animal too but robby will b riding in the Derby w a broken nose ? |
| Saratoga Sam | Ithink the best bet for the money is a $1.00 exacta box with 5 horses, just 20 bucks, and the exacta will pay well over $100.00 no matter wh |
| stunner81 | Ian i am using Daisy Devine also. |
| Jamie Milligan | The way I bet it it will be Matt!! Talk Derby To ME!! |
| MattIL | steven great point but that's what makes it such a great betting race |
| Josh Atkinson | no dont change the tradition to make it easier steve |
| cat thief | Nehro steve? |
| Aaron Halterman | I say 14. Every other race is has a limit of 14, why not this one? |
| brandon | I always have trouble handicapping Europeans. Any tips Steven? |
| Buddy Yingling | throw out the Euro |
| Clocker | Johnny V would look interesting on Animal Kingdom if Albarado couldn't go |
| Anonymous | if you like those tax tickets you will keep it at 20 |
| Stu Schreiber | Brandon, learn French |
| cscinsurance1 | @catthief: steve don't like cuz he coulda but dint win last 2 |
| Buddy Yingling | any horse flying in from UAE throw out |
| Bob | Nehro is the only horse other than DI with stamina.... 16 of these will be dead by the 1/8 pole |
| hayduke | can anyone find the pace in the Edgewood? |
| cat thief | thanks i forgot |
| Tony Viscardo | He'll go its the derby |
| lukas | no one said a thing about Calvin Borel...that horse must be trash |
| Ian Salon | summer soiree in the NW2 is a monster race look at all the horses he beat that came back to won and ran huge |
| DRFDerby | You can find Steve's detailed analysis on his blog tonight, Friday, and Saturday |
| brandon | From what I see with MOH i've already thrown him out.....but i've done that before and gotten burned (mainly in the Breeder's Cup.) |
| Buddy Yingling | who was last Euro shipper to be in the money in the Derby? |
| Sanjay Bhartia | even if you don't like the whole surface thing Brilliant Speed does have stamina |
| Tony Viscardo | good point bob . Arch can get it also . Neuro could bounce |
| MattIL | predictions on what the derby tri pays? I say 7600 |
| Ian Salon | plum pretty can't win unless it rains |
| Shaman Krauss | Calvin has had a tough year - needs one. |
| Josh Atkinson | i liek brilliant speed a lot |
| Clocker | Calvin Borel's style would fit this Derby perfect....but no horse underneath him at all |
| Fred Reardon | They used to run up to 26 in the derby - they changed it. |
| Jamie Milligan | AAA can go the distance too!! |
| DRFDerby | @lukas we talked Twice the Appeal earlier - Steve doesn't like his chances |
| Saratoga Sam | tri...$8400 |
| Justin Brownstein | Calvin on Dialed in would be appealing |
| Matt Bernier | Steve or anyone for that matter....thoughts on the turf sprint? |
| Stu Schreiber | Court is a true gentleman but put Calvin on AAA and watch out from rail |
| Bob | BRIDGETOWN a lock.. If thats the race 5f ? |
| MattIL | heres an interesting point. Since the field this year is so 'weak' will the standout in the derby take the last two legs and get the crown |
| cscinsurance1 | court's lack of experience in tough spot is concerning |
| Lyric B | Remember Nehro ran much shorter race in Ark Derby than AAA. Tide has turned |
| Ian Salon | what about the race with blind luck???? i hate her. |
| Saratoga Sam | Is linda Rice in the turf sprint....if so, she's automatic |
| Stu Schreiber | 3 yr old of year is NOT in Derby |
| Matt Bernier | That is the 5 furlong turf sprint |
| Shaman Krauss | Family matters - don't count court/fires out! |
| Clocker | Matt.....maybe the Preakness but doubt the Belmont. Belmont you need the distance in the pedigree strong |
| Tony Viscardo | I think from this blog we learned we ALL have to make our own picks no one knows |
| Sanjay Bhartia | The 2 horse is not a leaver so AAA may not be killed off? |
| MattIL | Clocker there are a few who could |
| cscinsurance1 | I like A/3 |
| slewobarney | If any race should be fair, shd be the Derby. The 1 shd not have to be dreaded due to size of field. |
| Ryan Reading | arch the man but at the 1 hole yikes |
| Clocker | Stu....3 y/o of the year is not in the US |
| Jamie Milligan | tri...12k!! |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Turf Sprint -- I'm a huge Chamberlain Bridge fan. It should be a real showdown between him and Regally Ready, |
| Barry R | dialed in , first ,second and third with 5 horses $1 tri total $60 looks very appealing |
| Ryan Reading | i like arch but not at the 1 hole |
| MattIL | true dat |
| Buddy Yingling | my problem is i've got 11 horses right now, who to throw out? LOL |
| cscinsurance1 | post is bad and 1st time derby jock |
| MattIL | Frankel |
| Stu Schreiber | Clocker, correct |
| Ian Salon | arch can't win from the one unless a miracle happens |
| Sanjay Bhartia | who are your 11 |
| Lyric B | 2,3,4 are not speed horses...still like AAA |
| Buddy Yingling | anybody who hasn't hit a 93 Beyer is out |
| Stu Schreiber | Bobby is smiling--for once |
| Ryan Reading | comma to the top fits the bill be careful history fits him to a tee with stats |
| Buddy Yingling | My 11 are all w/ more than 93 Beyer |
| Matt Bernier | Frankel: the heir-apparent to Goldikova in the BC Mile |
| Fred Reardon | Stay thirsty has some Belmont appeal. |
| cscinsurance1 | arch has the rail and will save ground 1st turn... |
| cscinsurance1 | then, who knows? |
| Aaron Halterman | Beyers are overrated |
| Buddy Yingling | i like Dialed/Midnight/Soldat the most |
| Clocker | Comma to the Top fits the history of a Derby winner? |
| cscinsurance1 | Welsch seemed to like him this week |
| Ryan Reading | yea but arch wont be able to go the distance in 1 hole |
| Buddy Yingling | but trying to hit the Super |
| cat thief | Steve, what do you think of Streakin Mohican in the race after the derby? |
| Sanjay Bhartia | go with the horse with successive improving beyers last 7 races |
| Tom | Shackleford will win laying off of Comma to the top. Will take over in stretch. Dialed In won't catch him |
| Ryan Reading | yes comma |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Chances of a Triple Crown? You wouldn't think so right now... |
| Lyric B | Comma...may not make it to the stretch |
| DRFSteven_Crist | but maybe somebody jumps up and wins the Derby by 6 |
| lukas | anyone willing to lay 1000 to make 100 that there will be no tripple crown this year? |
| Ryan Reading | i went through the percentage stats of derby winners |
| Buddy Yingling | agree Beyers are overrated, but nobody wins the Derby without high Beyers in record |
| Clocker | Ryan....hit those PPs again |
| Stu Schreiber | lyric, concur |
| Shaman Krauss | Pat/ Peter Miller liked last work - distance/surface may be the problem. |
| slewobarney | arch will save ground if he doesn't get 'Lookin at Luckyed' |
| Jamie Milligan | Agree Lukas, No triple crown |
| Ryan Reading | look everone overlookn him |
| Lyric B | thanks stu |
| stunner81 | Mucho Macho Man wins!!!!!!! |
| Roberta | Thorograph is the way to go. |
| Bob | i would lay 10,000 to win 100..... Are you kidding... these are a bunch of claimers in 3 months |
| MattIL | Steven I think thats def possible and I think that one of the mid pack horses can get the lead at the stretch and pull away and win with a l |
| MattIL | little daylight |
| Sanjay Bhartia | bob you can get the -900 on many sportsbooks |
| cat thief | Steve do you think Repole is sandbagging to run up Mo's odds? |
| Ryan Reading | get derby stats over last 30 yers broke down into percentage then apply that to him he is the only horse in the race that fits every spec |
| Clocker | Shackleford might be getting overlooked if he can rate. I will have him on my ticket |
| cscinsurance1 | MI or MMM are best mid packers... |
| Kelly Fineis | Had dream a chesnut won by daylight...just as good as any other way to pick these! lol |
| cscinsurance1 | just wonder is espinoza left enough in the tank |
| Ryan Reading | i like others trust me but? |
| bsmath | Stretch runners win the Kentucky Derby I think |
| DRFSteven_Crist | Thanks everyone for coming... Good luck! |
| MattIL | yeah clocker cant throw him out esp if theres rain |
| Bob | i may join... Is that still legal ? |
| Stu Schreiber | Unfortunately this Derby is a reflection of all that is going wrong in racing. |
| Sanjay Bhartia | repole doesn't need any more money...he's willing to invest in the mets 'nuff said |
| Fred Reardon | Steve, hi, you are trying to get to the KD w/7. Would you go that deep in a Tri? |
| stunner81 | TVG has a Oaks preview at 8PM. |
| Ryan Reading | moss pass figures show this race is actually garbage |
| Matt Bernier | Thanks Steve |
| Tony Viscardo | agree Stu |
| brandon | I've read other places that Mo doesn't look his healthiest, so I don't think Repole is sandbagging. |
| MattIL | gl everyone. go AK |
| Clocker | Ryan....Comma will be pressed from the start and distance limited |
| Michael Schwarzkopf | thanks drf and sc and chatters |
| Tom | Shackleford wins!! |
| Jamie Milligan | Goodnight Tony!! Have a great Derby!! |
| Ryan Reading | its gunna be a longshot |
| Sanjay Bhartia | hey ryan where do the moss pace figues point |
| stunner81 | Repole is a clown! |
| Fred Reardon | good luck |
| Tony Viscardo | u too Jamie good luck Use DI |
| cat thief | Thanks Steve, will check out your blog |
| wmspt | BRILLIANT! |
| Sanjay Bhartia | SPEEEED |
| Ryan Reading | clocker right hell get out but arch n decisive mmnt will beat him if he lays 5 off the lead with the horses rallyn in the turn he has a shot |
| Buddy Yingling | I think super will pay big no matter what, i mean huge. Good luck everyone. |
| cscinsurance1 | thanks steve! |
| hayduke | thanks Steve - it will be a fascinating Derby |
| DRFDerby | Thanks to everyone who joined the chat |
| bsmath | Thanks |
| DRFDerby | Good luck on Oaks and Derby Days |
| Lyric B | thank you steve |
| wmspt | GOOD LUCK SANJAY |
| David Korst | Thanks everyone................Good Luck!!! |
| Sanjay Bhartia | Thanks Steve and everyone |
| Jamie Milligan | I am using DI and AAA!! |
| cat thief | how much does .50 all/all/all cost? |
| DRFDerby | You can get PPs here: http://www.drf.com/store/kentucky-derby-past-performances |
| Clocker | Ryan.....5,6,7 will be a freight train out of the gate....all will be fading at the top |
| Sanjay Bhartia | we don't need luck brother |
| Lyric B | with you Jamie...AAAA |
| Ryan Reading | everyone wants to look at dialed in but the didnt do there homework |
| DRFDerby | and follow Steve's blog for both cards: http://www.drf.com/blogs/steven-crist |
| David Korst | 5 w/7 w/ 10 is $120 |
| Ryan Reading | but the comma to the top get it lol |
| cat thief | I got my friday form already |
| cscinsurance1 | .50 all/all/all = 20x19x18x.50 |
| Ryan Reading | shacleford got a shot to |
| cscinsurance1 | or 19x18x17 if mo scratches |
| Ryan Reading | nehro will most likeyly be dead from 19 hell be fightn mo |
| Ryan Reading | all be is expensicve |
| DRFDerby | You can find a transcript of the chat on this page tomorrow |