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Updated on 12/17/2012 5:42PM
Gulfstream Park: Shanghai Bobby gets to work, with Holy Bull his starting point
By Mike Welsch
HALLANDALE BEACH, Fla. – Breeders’ Cup Juvenile winner Shanghai Bobby took his first baby step back toward his 3-year-old debut when he worked an easy half-mile in 52 seconds at the Palm Meadows training center Monday. Shanghai Bobby is scheduled to launch his 2013 campaign in the Grade 3 Holy Bull here Jan. 26.
“It was just an easy first breeze back,” trainer Todd Pletcher said. “I was debating whether to go three-eighths or a half-mile and decided to go an easy half. He did well for a starting point, will come back and breeze again next Monday, and then pick it up from there.”
Shanghai Bobby, a son of Harlan’s Holiday, won all five starts at 2, including the BC Juvenile, the Grade 2 Hopeful, and Grade 1 Champagne. He is the overwhelming favorite to be voted the 2-year-old champion for 2012. Shanghai Bobby is owned by Starlight Partners, which sold a share of the horse to Coolmore’s Susan Magnier, Derrick Smith, and Michael Tabor the week of the Breeders’ Cup.
“I think, physically, the horse has done very well since the Breeders’ Cup,” Pletcher said. “He had a good rest, put on a little weight, and looks great.”
In a previous version, the Holy Bull was incorrectly listed as a Grade 3 race. It is a Grade 2.
Shanghai Bobby hasn't faded in the stretch in any race he's run. He was waiting on horses in two of them after he got the lead. (BC Juvenile and Track Barron Stakes - Rosie said so) In the Champagne at Belmont he increased his lead over Goldencents from 3 lengths to 5 lengths the last 1/8th of a mile. Goldencents went from the Champagne and won the Delta Jackpot over some good horses. The Derby is another 1.5 furlongs from the distance of the BC Juvenile. Horses grow and mature from 2 to 3. I'd say it's premature to say this horse can't go 10 furlongs.
Alot of the horses he beat came back to win in other spots..and he's undefeated. He's a serious horse...I don't believe Pletcher thought he was the most serious in his barn because he put Rosie on him. But he is definately the major Derby prospect as of this day.
no shot at the derby
He won't get the classic distances. He MAY get 1 1/8 miles, but I'm even doubting he'll go that far. They should turn him into a miler, he'll be another Wise Dan at a mile (but on dirt).
Hope you're working on that "waiting for other horses" problem Pletcher.
I can't believe people are writing this horse off already. He is undefeated has won all the major races a 2 year old can win. What horse or horses has the resume he has? None so until another horse performs better than him in the same class of races or beat him a couple times he is the best derby prospect. Yes his breeding doesn't suggest classic distance but his dad was a top class horse and won at the derby distance. Bobby is not all pure speed like other horses he can layoff the front speed and attack early when hitting the turn for home. He will get the jump on the closers and if he makes it to the derby his running style will keep him outta trouble. This horse has a good chance if he stays healthy. I hate to say this but Pletcher has the best derby contenders out there. Just hoping they all make it to the starting gate.
He is a nice horse and I would love to own him but he is not a legitimate Derby threat. In fact, he is not even the best Derby prospect in Pletcher's barn. His pedigree is not suited for the classic distances. He will probably win the Holy Bull but that will not prove anything. He reminds me of Hansen, speed-oriented and will be exposed when the distances increase.
It is a mystery to me why alot of people are writing this horse off! This horse has heart and loves to win, no matter what the distance. It would be wise to not underestimate 'Bobby', I don't care what his pedigree says. I remember in 2009 when all the experts were saying that 'Mine That Bird' had no chance in the derby. God thing for 'Bird' he didn't listen to that fodder.
If this horse ever wins a major race against a good field beyond a mile and a sixteenth, I'll be surprised.
If this guy runs in the Holy Bull I will be looking for a major upset. He's a nice horse, but the distance should do him in. He won't get the same track bias he had in the Breeders Cup and some late developing horse is all it will take.
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