04/01/2014 12:48PM

Trainer Osborne mulls Kentucky Derby option for Toast of New York

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Trainer Jamie Osborne remains undecided on running Toast of New York in the Kentucky Derby after a victory Saturday in the United Arab Emirates Derby.

Toast of New York has returned to his yard in Great Britain following his victory Saturday in the United Arab Emirates Derby, but whether he’ll venture across the ocean in a few weeks to try dirt for the first time in the May 3 Kentucky Derby is a decision his trainer, Jamie Osborne, is not ready to make just yet.

Toast of New York earned 100 points for his UAE Derby victory, which easily puts him in the starting gate for the Kentucky Derby should he come, regardless of whether the field has more than the maximum of 20 entrants. But Osborne said he would like to see how Toast of New York recovers from the Dubai race before making any firm plans.

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“We haven’t ruled anything in or out,” Osborne said in a telephone conversation Tuesday. “Quite a bit of concern is the proximity to your Derby. For a horse at this stage of his life, it was a fair bit of work to get him ready for Dubai. Now he’d have to travel again to another continent in a short amount of time. When we went to Dubai, he was racing on Tapeta, which is like Polytrack, so I didn’t feel he needed to get there early and get a piece of work over the track. It wasn’t a concern that he hadn’t worked on Tapeta. If we came to Churchill Downs, I’d have to go much sooner. He’d have to do a piece of work over the surface. Can he be the same horse in three to four weeks’ time? I don’t know. I felt when he left here for Dubai, he was spot on. Would he be the same horse as he was going to Dubai? Would he be 100 percent happy? Those are the questions.”

Asked what he would do if he didn’t come to the Kentucky Derby, Osborne said Toast of New York “will be supplemented” to the Epsom Derby, which is June 7, though he said the mile and a half distance is a question.

“The one thing I do know is that his long-term target would be the Dubai World Cup next year, but I’ve got 52 weeks to work that out,” Osborne said, laughing. “My concern now is I wouldn’t want to do anything in the short term that would be detrimental to that goal. If it was eight weeks between the race in Dubai and going to America, I think we’d say, ‘Why not? We’re not going to get another chance.’ But I can’t say that because it’s not eight weeks. I don’t think we’d know anything for at least another week.”

Pagani Zonda 10 months ago
You guys are lucky if they skip the K.Derby. No 3 year old horse in the USA can run with this one. Pretty funny if a Jumps owner would ship in and win the biggest 3yr old flat race in the usa.
russell 10 months ago
Your not serious are you? Two victories at Wolverhampton and then he beats a bad UAE Derby field that has produced nothing in the KY Derby. Keep dreaming
Pagani Zonda 10 months ago
No Dream. The last two who came ran 5th, and 7th. No experience on Dirt. IF they shipped in Earlier and worked over the Dirt, you would be done. The only horse who would battle with him in the stretch will be Samraat because he will be leading the Derby field the whole way, until the 16th pole when the Stamina class kicks in. laugh all you want, and reply how you want. I am 100% sure you picked a Derby winner in 2011 from a Poly prep, or Dullahan, or Went The day Well. Those Foolish Poly horses....
rahman Williams 10 months ago
He looked good but travel and dirt could be to much
davegenovese1 10 months ago
The Hawthorne Derby I felt was a much more useful prep and on real dirt, good location for many horsemen with their aspiring charges. unhappy with Churchill Downs.
Matthew Ellis 10 months ago
Not only Shipping across Country after prepping and running a huge race in Dubai to then attempt a new surface DIRT would not be wise or in the horse's best interest. Not only switching surfaces but facing the best 3 year olds in NA who planned their campaign to run in this race where as he would be thrown on a plane because its the DERBY. Couldn't we all no disrespect see a 16th place finish and still no excuse needed. Follow the campaign set ( I know the KD was not on the itinerary )
Allan Weston 10 months ago
The dirt surface didn't,t bother animal kingdom much after racing on the synthetics. Why not takes shot at the derby.
edb 10 months ago
Oh boy, another horse that shouldn't be in the derby field. Too much travel involved for the horse's health. But he would have a ton of frequent flyer miles.
Union_Rags 10 months ago
May 3 is just another race. He could be the Toast Of New York if he won the triple crown. If he was mine I wouldn't do it. As long as CD's wants to run 20 horses, that's at least 6 too many.
john g 10 months ago
He won a race that was worth 100 points, if he wants to take a shot in the Ky. Derby that's fine, bring him over, go for it. Its not like he's knocking any other horses out that hasn't had the same shot at points. The more competition the better..
Victor Cravin 10 months ago
Will somebody tell me why this race even gets derby points anyway? It's half a world away on tapeta! But, in their infinite wisdom, they took points away from the Illinois Derby...Wow! I wish we could take this great sport back to the days when it was simply about the love of watching these magnificent animals run, without money and politics being the major factor that it is now.
chad mc rory 10 months ago
So true... Politics; "of, for, or relating to the people". Man, how that's been twisted.
jason javino 10 months ago
that horse wont be in the derby. he should just say it.
Ray Sousa 10 months ago
Over the years I've heard so much nonsense about how horses from here or there cant do this or that.then one does it and everybody looks stupid..back in the 70 the idea that south african horses could compete with the best in the u.s.a was ridiculed the HAWAII and COLORADO KING came over and changed that they now go all over and win from europe to asia to dubai..then in the 80s Brasilian horses were considered sub par and could not compete here especially on dirt SANDPIT,SIPHON,RIBOLLETA,PICO CENTRAL,HARD BUCK,LEROIDESANIMAUX,EINSTEIN and others changed that.Venezuelan trained CANNONEIRO could not win the derby yet won and he also won the preakness in case you were wondering if it was a fluke.so to those that say a horse from dubai cant win the derby i say why not?.just because a few have failed most notably DESERT PARTY but some have run decent races one finished fifth and most that came over were really not that good .this guy might be the real deal.hes been raced on polytrack in england instead of turf and that's a sign that he's really not a turf horse.he beat a very good field going 1 3/16 m a distance none of the others have tackled yet.and is bred for dirt.if he comes it will throw a wrench into handicapping the race.
Rob 10 months ago
Would you like a new bookmaker?
Jerry Ray 10 months ago
I feel that you are 100% correct in this article. You seem to do your homework well and follow the horses the way that I do. The one thing that I miss is the fact that they don't carry weight like they did years ago. That is why I get upset when they say this one is the greatest. Times have really changed with the surfaces over the years too.
Greg 10 months ago
stay away euro