09/28/2014 11:22AM

Tonalist, Zivo likely to meet again in Breeders' Cup Classic

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Barbara D. Livingston
Tonalist earned a career-best 106 Beyer Speed Figure for his win in the Jockey Club Gold Cup.

ELMONT, N.Y. - Tonalist and Zivo, the first two finishers from Saturday’s Grade 1, $1 million Jockey Club Gold Cup, will both be pointed to the $5 million Breeders’ Cup Classic, but will both do all their major preparations in New York before shipping to Southern California the week of the race, their trainers said Sunday morning.

Moreno, who crossed the finish line fourth but was disqualified to last when jockey Junior Alvarado allowed the gelding to drift over, thus causing Wicked Strong to clip heels, stumble, and unseat his rider, is also being pointed to the Classic. He was flown to Southern California on Sunday morning.

Christophe Clement, the trainer of Tonalist, said the horse came out of his Gold Cup victory “a little bit stiff, but not bad, and overall [I’m] very happy with the way he looks.”

The ever-conservative Clement said he would wait a week to 10 days before committing Tonalist to the Classic, but added, “subject to his well-being we will keep the Breeders’ Cup Classic very much in mind.” Tonalist added the Jockey Club Gold Cup to a resume that includes the Belmont Stakes and Peter Pan, all at Belmont Park.

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After Tonalist finished second in the Jim Dandy and third in the Travers this summer at Saratoga, Clement took the blinkers off Tonalist for the Gold Cup. While Clement admitted the horse was farther back than he expected Saturday - Tonalist was 10th of 11 runners early on - he was fine with the result.

“The main thing is he’s a very nice horse, he won a classic with the blinkers so it’s not like it was a major, major move,” Clement said. “I just thought he was more aggressive with the blinkers than he was yesterday. Obviously, he was further back in the race, maybe more further back than we were expecting but obviously Joel [Rosario] was very comfortable and he won the race.”

Tonalist, who defeated Zivo by 1 3/4 lengths, earned a career-best 106 Beyer Speed Figure for the effort.

Clement said he could get as many as three works into Tonalist before the Classic.

Chad Brown, the trainer of Gold Cup runner-up Zivo, was proud of his horse’s second-place effort after he had to steady behind the fallen Wicked Strong down the backstretch.

“Second-best yesterday, but it was a good second, especially considering the trouble he had down the backside as did a handful of other horses,” Brown said. “For him to restart his race again at that point and still run on strong and run a solid second, I couldn’t be prouder of the horse’s effort.”

Brown said Sunday that Zivo “looks great this morning” and if all goes well for the next few weeks, he too will be aimed to the Classic.

“If the horse comes out of the race sound and is training as well as he was leading up to the Jockey Club I don’t see any reason why you wouldn’t go out there and take a shot in the Classic,” Brown said.

Brown said he would keep Zivo in New York as late as possible because of how well the horse trains at Belmont Park.

Eric Guillot, the trainer of Moreno, felt his horse had “a horrible trip” in the Gold Cup and is still on course for the Breeders’ Cup Classic. He did say that he would replace Alvarado.

 

 

 

Frank Reach More than 1 year ago
Tonalist ran great. I truly hope these horses show up for the big dance. The East coast peeps can't help their bias and they'll bet them. When Shared Belief wins, they'll do what they always do and scratch their heads, staring at the Beyer figures as if they equate to anything. What I laugh at is now they can't use the carpet excuse anymore. Face it, for some reason, facts are facts: the west coast horses are currently better.
tina More than 1 year ago
Frank beyer speed ratings are not accurate. Horse racing is a science so we have to look at vo2 max, lactate threshold, and how many pounds they won at a specific distance and what racing times they produced to predict the winner! I did all the calculations and shared belief is 3rd or forth in my rankings because he did similar times as zivo, California chrome, Moreno, and tonalist but with a lot less weight, gives shared belief a lower vo2 max and lactate threshold. When you add 6 pounds to a horse you lower your vo2 max because you require more oxygen to complete the race and you build up lactate early in the race which increases your acidity to cause fatigue. I like how people say this horse has a higher speed rating when they lost to my horse in that race lol.
russell More than 1 year ago
I wouldn't bet VE Day with counterfeit $$$$ Anyone that does is crazy.
russell More than 1 year ago
My first comments were banned. Do not bet Zivo or Wicked Strong. The Big X is on them. Zivo an inner Dirt horse last year and Wicked Stong fell down. You cant bet these horse in Cali. Makes no sense. I will be at SA; my connections hit with Private Zone.
tommy More than 1 year ago
Wicked strong May not run in breeders cup due to a lack of quality jockeys since they are all booked. The only available quality jockeys who inquired to ride wicked strong in breeders cup is Ryan Moore and Detori. I hope to see wicked strong and VE Day in breeders cup and wicked strong may win by more than 5 lengths with Ryan Moore or Detori on board. Imperative may drop out because kent desormaux is severely injured.
flash gordon More than 1 year ago
how about paco lopez.what's he doing that day?
Matthew Hood More than 1 year ago
Neither of these horses will be a contender in the classic. Tonalist is completely an east coast track horse who will hate Santa Anita. And to think they will only ship him out right before the race? Done. Zivo was primed to run his big race on Sat and will not be a factor. Maybe a tri super finisher but that's about it.
joe d More than 1 year ago
oh really? and whats your expert prediction?
Tim Roberts More than 1 year ago
Too bad Mucho Macho Man didn't retire. He would have a real easy time at a defense of this if only he could still run. This will be the weakest Classic ever.
flash gordon More than 1 year ago
if he didn't retire he still be racing
Pagani Zonda More than 1 year ago
VE Day will be ready for the Classic. Nice little tune up.
Dave More than 1 year ago
I think Moreno could have a big chance on the front end at SA. The Gold Cup is a throw out for me. Big factor would be Bayern. Those two would really compromise each other in the Classic.
flash gordon More than 1 year ago
No way moreno is winning.He need to control the pace and he won't get it with Bayern there.
Chuck Seddio More than 1 year ago
dave,after watching the jccp i am convinced that moreno will have to rate as he did in the jccp,he wont go after nor is he fast enough early to keep up with bayern. i am now convinced that bayern is the best 3yr old now in training and he will wire the bc classic. he is intimidating before and during the race,baffert has let it be known that no matter what, bayern will go as fast as he could early to get the lead and this tactic will discourage any horse that may try to go with him. i bet out on moreno and realized that he and its my lucky day bounced, it is going to be an interesting classic
Meydan Rocks More than 1 year ago
VE Day might be put away till next year… I don't see Last Gun Fighter winning the Classic. Who where the other dark horses in that race?
flash gordon More than 1 year ago
Love to see Zivo beat them all in classic.Put Chad Brown one of top trainers in America with a NY bred.
Tim Roberts More than 1 year ago
He will win the Classic but be a very short price. 6/5.
flash gordon More than 1 year ago
Zivo 6/5.I don't think so.probably more like 7 to 10- 1.
russell More than 1 year ago
I like Chad Brown but Zivo aint winning this race. Drosslemeyer is better.