08/05/2012 6:28PM

Saratoga: Poseidon's Warrior pulls off 36-1 upset in Vanderbilt

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Barbara D. Livingston
Poseidon's Warrior, ridden by Irad Ortiz Jr., gives trainer Butch Reid his first career Grade 1 victory

SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. - Based in the Mid-Atlantic region, trainer Butch Reid certainly makes his presence felt when he comes to New York.

Reid picked up his sixth career graded stakes victory - and third in New York - when Poseidon’s Warrior outgamed Justin Phillip to the wire to win Sunday’s Grade 1, $400,000 Alfred G. Vanderbilt at Saratoga. He was the second-longest shot in the eight-horse field, returning $74.50.

It was the first Grade 1 victory for the 56-year-old Reid, who began training in 1983.

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Despite drifting out in the stretch, Poseidon’s Warrior, under Irad Ortiz Jr., finished a neck in front of Justin Phillip, who was second by a neck over the pacesetting Emcee.

Shackleford, the 2011 Preakness winner and 6-5 Vanderbilt favorite, finished last in his first try at six furlongs. His connections blamed the performance on the muddy Saratoga track.

Two years ago, Reid won the Grade 2 Withers at Aqueduct with Afleet Again, who was 24-1. The next year, Afleet Again won the 2011 Breeders’ Cup Marathon at Churchill Downs at 41-1.

In 1995, Reid won the Grade 3 Roseben Handicap at Belmont with Evil Bear, who in 1994 finished second here to American Chance in the Grade 1 Forego, finishing ahead of that year’s Kentucky Derby winner Go for Gin.

Reid called the Vanderbilt victory “a thrill of a lifetime” because “this is a place that we’ve always tried to come, haven’t always had all the quality horses to get up here and get it done.”

Poseidon’s Warrior was winless in two starts this year, but Reid felt the horse got enough out of a 2 3/4-length loss in the Mr. Prospector at Monmouth on July 8 to take a shot in here.

 “The timing was perfect. We decided to take a chance,” said Reid, who trains Poseidon’s Warrior for Tom McGrath’s Swilcan Stables.

 Breaking from post 5, Ortiz hustled Poseidon’s Warrior out of the gate and found himself chasing the pace of Emcee, who ran a quarter in 21.99 seconds and a half-mile in 44.61 while being prompted by Rothko.

 Emcee, under Alan Garcia, kept plugging away along the rail while Rothko faded inside the eighth pole. Meanwhile, Ortiz was persevering on Poseidon’s Warrior, who began to drift out in the stretch. That turned out to be a good thing as he was getting alongside Justin Phillip, who was rallying wide under Ramon Dominguez but couldn’t catch Poseidon’s Warrior.

Poseidon’s Warrior, a 4-year-old son of 2004 Vanderbilt winner Speightstown, covered six furlongs in 1:09.40.

 “I broke running and got a good position on the outside,” said Ortiz, who added this Grade 1 to his victory aboard Questing in the Grade 1 Coaching Club American Oaks. “There were two horses fighting on the lead. I just waited and was patient. When I turned for home, I asked my horse and he had something [left].”

Conversely, Shackleford had nothing to offer from the outset. He broke a step slow from the rail, chased the pace along inside from fourth, and retreated to last.

 Jockey John Velazquez said he knew “two jumps” into the race, Shackleford wasn’t going to run well because he wasn’t showing his usual aggressiveness.

 Watching from the stands, trainer Dale Romans knew it as well.

 “When he wasn’t dragging Johnny up the backside I thought he wasn’t comfortable,” Romans said. “It’s not a soundness issue with him. I just think that he is surface sensitive. He’s a little bit finicky on what he runs on.”

 Romans said provided there is no physical issue with Shackleford he will still be pointed to the Grade 1 Forego on Sept. 1.

 

HandicapperErni More than 1 year ago
Joel Rosario has to make terrible moves like with hamazing destiny in the Vanderbilt and moving horses way too soon!! I think he's so overrated right now but maybe he'll change my opinion on him as he goes along. I have a mixed reaction to him going to New York. I think he's better out in Southern California and thought of him as so good. Never thought of him as so great. Noticed he's been quiet this week. Hasn't won nothing really since Thursday. Limited mounts since firing Ebanks. He had it easy here in southern California. He had to make moves where there were short fields and were like make the moves at the right time. If he sticks around maybe he'll have more mounts by Gulfstream park. Since he's made questionable moves he seems kind of intimidated. Didn't feel that way even when he was a rookie here. Thing with him is that he's showing life right now. But IMO it's because he's on the best horse. He's trying hard to make it here and really is trying to finish in the top 3 so badly to prove himself but I don't think his talent isn't anywhere near this ones. For the limited of mounts as of late, well because of the switch of agents. Will try to find more connections/barns. But if you noticed in some of the races, connections that rosario rides for haven't really used him since he fired his agent. Ebanks did nothing wrong and he'd have mount after mount with him and since firing his agent has had few mounts and very few wins. Though he's showing life right now, If you look at the mounts, he don't get the top 3 mounts. Ramon Dominguez, John Velazquez and Javier Castallano. Actually he don't even get 4th choice which goes to Jose Lezcano. He has to fight for 5th choice with either Junior Alvarado, Rosie Napravnik or Julien Leparoux. So he has heavy competition right now. I guess you can say if you were riding evenly with Rafael Bejarano in Southern California then you can make it anywhere.
JOHN CAPPER More than 1 year ago
This horse has always shown promise and the wet track let him show it off. now 2 for 2 on wet surfaces, I believe.
Ray Sousa More than 1 year ago
poseidon greek mythology god of the seas (muddy tracks ?) causer of heart shaking events ($74.50) tamer of horses (shackleford and company).they have a sence of hummor at the spa.
Ian GW More than 1 year ago
I had this horse. I had $10 win. I liked him. Look at his last 2 races and back form. He was about to run a big race. Shackelford was missing board, he was preping for his form cycle. Wish I had pick 4. I got beat first leg and won out. DOminguez kills me when he flops chalk. And when I dont use him he wins.
Ray Sousa More than 1 year ago
Folks its just another day at the graveyard of honesty or the playard of thieves, you pick,they try to blame it on the track on the mudd on the altitude etc,but the fact is the fix a lot of races up there and they do it every year,im not saying this gr1 was fixed,but lets face it weve all seen some pretty obvious fixes,like the race they brought in a 70/1 ridden by a lezcano over a 44/1 ridden by c montalvo every year they do the same thing with 2 jocks that have not won a race at the meet,also how interesting that the 2 winning tickets on that 470 000 pick 6 both came from overseas through us hubs,one from venezuela the other i heard was from panama.just interesting that millions more tickets are played right here in the usa yet both tickets are sold in latin america,of course most jockeys at saratoga if not 99% of them are from latin america.
Ronnie Malo Rodriguez More than 1 year ago
We read your post the first and second time. Its amazing how you cry when a longshot wins. Don't you play any longshot horses.? They don't call it the graveyard of the favorites for nothing! Yet you continue to cry when a longshot wins. If you look at all of the exacta prices during the year. Its not everyday you see a 70 over 40-1 shot in an exacta. Thats a beautiful thing when it happens since its so rare. You'd rather have boring 1-1 over 6-5 shots instead right? Cause it makes you feel so safe. If you don't go out on a limb you can't grab the fruit.
Ray Sousa More than 1 year ago
no youre absolutely wrong if you knew me you would know ive been in this game for 30 years by picking longshots that win,thats not the issue finding a legit longshot is what the game is all about,and ive found more than my share.the issue here is not legit longshots that win its cheating by trainers that dope horses by jockeys that stiff legit favorites,by colusion to bring in big payouts in exotics that make no handicaping sense.its the idiots who excuse the obvious and make excuses for the crooks in the game that are killing the sport.
steve szymanski More than 1 year ago
I gotta love this Ray Sousa guy. He KNOWS that they cheat, yet still bets on horses!!! What a dope. Whereas you Bet and Gamble on horses, guys like me who take your part of the pools MAKE WAGERS. One day, before you die, hopefully you will see the difference. Until then......... bet early and bet often. Every little penny you invest helps my bankroll.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
why do people keep responding 2 this *Jerk* all he is looking for is attention VQ
Bsb Jaws More than 1 year ago
VQ, its called a jockey race and I'm here to tell ya it happens. I don't know of this particular race the guy is mentioning,buttZ... he isn't completely off his rocker. It happens. Just ask the admitted tri fixer turned states witness/ cheese eater Angel the devil Cordero or Ron Hansen. Oh thats right you can't ask Hansen because he was hurting the Vegas Books before they were comingled and he ended up face down in 2' of mud under a bridge. Those are Degregorio's words printed in DRF not mine. It was working pretty good for Hansen when he was riding all the favorites while BaZe was injured. The people in Vegas figured out what he was up to.
steve szymanski More than 1 year ago
Lets handicap the race from the prerspective of someone who has something other than whining to offer. Forgive me for not remembering all the names I need to write this. 1.Shackleford shows zero abaility on the wet track. I'm sorry, but just because they are 3/5 doesn't mean they are winners. THAT was your first mistake, Mr "i would use Anonymous" if I whined all the time too. 2. Emcee was guaranteed to be pushed to a fast pace, in which he has tired in the lane on these occasions. Peg for 3rd or 4th 3. After fgetting rid of the 1 & 2, Justin Phillip was one of 2 horses with 100 beyers in his resume. 4. Rothcom? Never beyered over 95-96. We all know about Union Skags, right. Toss. 5. Only other horse that beyered over 100. Lost his last race to a horse that won 2 in a row against top quality, but 3-4 races back, he BEAT THAT HORSE on a wet track. Hmmm. Stay with me, whiner, 6. Ranger something, something had no chance and never ran fast enough to be in this race. 7. Jerset Towne was something like 15 for 18 in the money, but never reallt ran this good, OR competed in real tough sprints to offer any promise. 8. Hamazing Destiny. I had him 2 back on the drop in class and in my tri's last time and YESTERDAY, he set up as a nice closer. What was my bet??? 3,5 with 3,5 with 2,8 with 1,2,8. But what do I know? They cheated everyone at the track and I was just lucky, huh? PLEASE take up Monopoly - there is a lot of money involved and most people "skim" from the bank. You'll do just fine. BET EARLY AND OFTEN. I appreciate your money!! ps.I had 5 winners, 3 seconds and 2 run outs, NOT COUNTING the G1 race, where i was split between the first two horses. Spend more time learning pace and less time complining about a worthless 3/5 shot getting beat in a race where the tarck played against him and the trainer said that he was using it as a prep.
Bsb Jaws More than 1 year ago
Steve , you're a big talker and you can't even put your bet in right when playing a stupid contest, let alone 'cap the race like you say you can. So no matter what. Nothing you say can be taken seriously. You had no winners . You're full of baloney Mr. professional. You talk big ,but you play small. You're a wiener dog. In fact I believe the two you said were to slow & over the top ran 1,2 . They were the first and only throw outs you listed in your analysis pre race. Then you popped off saying a KNOWN neophyte was the only other guy there that could handicap only because his analysis agreed in part with yours. The Kid himself said you must be an IDIOT if you think he's the only other handicapper there. So take that big mouth. Your only two throw outs completed the exacta. Thats a FACT all you people so don't listen to a word this Hot Dog has to say. He's nothing but a polish sausage.
steve szymanski More than 1 year ago
You got the wrong guy, I never analyzed the race for you or anyone. I know this is the Internet, but just because you say I did, doesn't make it true. You too. Bet early and bet often. How much did you lose on Shackleford? LOL ps. you are bringing a knife to a gunfight if you go head to head with the best handicapper here. Wanna try me, big talker. How much???? I can cover any bet you want and have no problem sending it in to anyone on the DRF staff to hold.
Sam Shelby More than 1 year ago
Nine grammatical errors. Good thing you're some kind of genius.
chad mc rory More than 1 year ago
Ray, You're over the edge, out the door. Grrrronimoe and happy landing...
Ian GW More than 1 year ago
I have seen my share of shady crap in his defense.
ME More than 1 year ago
i think i remember the race in question.... The 44/1 had 3 races but his first was dirt with a little close, the other 2 routes on turf trash, but useable on dirt going a distance, also i believe the 2 turf starts were mdspwt where as the dirt was high maiden and this was a high maiden race.... the other horse 70/1 i believe put the blinkers on first time with like 3 or 4 races under his belt not much to show but was held back and came flying like a train.... 2 explainable although lucky outcomes and i have been a horse player for 22 years and i dont bet chalk EVERRRRR!!!!
john More than 1 year ago
I've been going to the Spa for 40 years and I've never seen a "horse for course" track play any stronger than this one. Before the form started publishing horses records at the track, I maintained a list of all the winners at Saratoga from previous years. It was a gold mine. And, it works conversely.....those horses that run poorly at the Spa, continue to do so. Romans is right in this case. I threw Shackleford out because the worst race of his life was run in last year's Travers....he hates the Spa.
Ronnie Malo Rodriguez More than 1 year ago
Smartest thing said in this thread.
steve szymanski More than 1 year ago
You are partially correct and not many people get that. This track plays like most other tracks, EXCEPT Belmonts huge sandy configuation and the Aqueduct inner Track layout. Horses coming from these NY track just don't run the same and the meet isn't long enough to get them acclimated. Use that to your advantage. Either that, ot the South Americans are cheating us along with the offtrack hubs...LOLOLOLOLOLOL
unmarx1 More than 1 year ago
Dale 'Cuppy' Romans,with another 'surface sensitive' situation , missed a golden opportunity to referto the Spa mud as "SUCTION-CUPPY".
chad mc rory More than 1 year ago
It was as easy as reading the headline, "using as a prep for the Forego.' Didn't Andrew Beyer 'splain dat to you...
Mark Scheider More than 1 year ago
End all of all arguments. The race was intended as a 6F workout with the CHANCES of adding a 6F Gr. 1 under his belt. When he was bogged down, there was obviously no instruction to ask him for much as Johnnie V never went to the whip (anyone that has any idea would have seen that). There was no need to risk the horse come the final turn. Dont dog the trainer and certainly dont think the horse is a wash. 6F is not his forte and he does not like an off track. There are not many horses that can hang with this one at 8 furlongs. So......relaaaaaaaax. Hey, folks just a tip...... youre going to get good odds on Shackleford next out because of this race. You might want to take advantage. Just sayin.
Jeff Moyers More than 1 year ago
No such thing as a Grade 1 workout.
chad mc rory More than 1 year ago
You just saw one... In these deals if the Horse wins it ALL WITHIN HIMSELF then of course they'll take the money along with the work. This is one of the 'nuances' of handicapping that yall shoulda gotten from Beyer. But then if you won't read the header - shame on you.
Mark Scheider More than 1 year ago
we agreed on something??
chad mc rory More than 1 year ago
S-C-A-R-Y !!!
Jeff Moyers More than 1 year ago
Not buying it, as they could have stuck him in an optional claimer or a smaller stakes race.
chad mc rory More than 1 year ago
Don't Look Leroy !
Ronnie Malo Rodriguez More than 1 year ago
whats good 3-1? He'll never be 64-1 like he was in the Florida Derby, or 12-1 in the Preakness.
steve szymanski More than 1 year ago
Yeah, but with this group of whiners, these horses are only as good as their last race (or Beyer Fig). No willpower here and LESS brains.
John Flynn More than 1 year ago
Romans get Castanon - Back!!! Kudos to the Winner.
Daniel DiPrinzio More than 1 year ago
From the PHA to the SPA! Butchie!
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
I hate to complain about any thing free, but can the drf please fire or reassign the guy who sets up the free PP for race of the day. People make mistakes, but it just takes seconds to check your work! After your done programing, simply click on it to see if the race you intended comes up...just takes seconds. The Waya is race 8, but what comes up is race 6. Again its free, but it has happened a couple time recently and I don't even check it unless its a stakes race. Just check your work!
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Wow. How does this get a thumbs down? You must be a loser employee at your job too.
Mike More than 1 year ago
Or we are just sick of whining on DRF, that might be why it gets a thumbs down. In fact, I'll give it another thumbs down.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
I love the DRF have all my life, except I did jump to the Racing Times because Steven Christ knew what he was doing. I've never complained of anything before. What hatred you guys have. I even said "I hate to complain.." Angry losers...I can't believe it.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
easy diaper rash, I'm sure drf.com would gladly have you oversee the race of the day.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
It takes the guy two seconds to click on it to see if the desired race does come up. It just called pride in your work, just like you when your done cleaning the men's room at McDonalds, I'm sure you lick the toilet seat when your done as a quality check. Loser
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Thanks to you, they fixed it. They have filmed a video for the race seems they could check the link so make sure that it actually brings up the correct race. About the naysayers, drf has a bunch of retirees on oxygen tanks that know nothing about the working world and computers.
unmarx1 More than 1 year ago
A new world's record- 6 out of 7 consecutive posts by "ANONYMOUS". you guys have no idea how dumb this is for the rest of us. let's all be 'anonymous',how good would that be ?