09/03/2012 6:51PM

Saratoga: Paynter has further complications

Barbara D. Livingston
Paynter’s nutrition is being hampered by blood clotting.

SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. - Two new issues have developed regarding the condition of Grade 1 Haskell winner Paynter, who now has an infection and blood clotting, according to owner Ahmed Zayat.

Zayat said late Monday afternoon that doctors at the Upstate Equine Medical Clinic in Schuylerville, N.Y., told him that Paynter developed an infection in the area where he had a catheter inserted to feed him and give him his medication. Further, he has developed some blood clotting, which Zayat said has resulted in the colt not getting enough nutrients.

Zayat said that Dr. Laura Javsicas had a difficult time finding a new vein into which to put the catheter.

"It's a little discomforting because it could involve suffering and pain and I have zero tolerance for pain," Zayat said. "I'm wrestling with all different things. At some point you have to wonder what the effect is on the horse."

Paynter has been in the Upstate Medical Clinic since Aug. 26 with colitis _ an inflammation of the colon. The colt had a high fever and diarrhea. He had been making some progress until this recent setback.

Zayat said his primary concern is that Paynter doesn't suffer.

"I have to be careful. I want my horse to fight this," Zayat said. "I want to help him."

Paytner, who finished second in the Belmont Stakes, won the Haskell on July 29, but was sent to a New Jersey veterinary center with an illness that was believed to be pneumonia. He was returned to light training at Belmont and then Saratoga before being sent to this second medical center.

maya joffe More than 1 year ago
This is for Paynter: Get well ASAP! PS. What legs where they
james More than 1 year ago
Running on differnt kind of tracks sirfaces is not good for a horse! That's why Santa Anita went back to the dirt course! It's very hard on a horses changing up tracks, they need to go back to all dirt! About these trianers, it's all about greed but not all trainers r like this! I've seen horses that were lame going onto the track n still run! You know horses r checked in the morning by the track vet b4 they run! I've seen horses n a bucket of ice when the track vet came n then just left! N herd about this as well! Horses r well fed but illeagle drugs that can't be detected r being pumped into them! From what i herd that when blood sample r taken after a race r kept for years, to find out how long this drug has been used on a horse! Baffert, O'Neil n lot of the big boys r going to pay the price, sooner or later! Baffert has been busted already! Besides the jockeys need to be looked at as well! Why do Jockey's look back so much they never did back in the good old days! Rosario has been question on his riding n I saw Joe Talamo bring a horse from behind n then took a hold of this horse n wouldn't go by the second place horse! My brother saw this as well! Horses break down because of to much training n drugs being dumped into them to make them feel good with no pain! Like all kinds of steroidsand steroids have been killing athleths, Starting with Lyle Alzado up to the entertaiment of wrestling, known as the WWF!!! Bottom line is God Bless u Paytner hope u pull through this!
Susan Huart More than 1 year ago
Paynter now reported to have laminitis in all hooves, article as if 1:27pm est. Pray Paynter has some peace.
Jon More than 1 year ago
its supposed to be 3 of the 4 legs. Either way that is bad, hope he can pull thru these crucial hours and over come his problems.
russell More than 1 year ago
I just hope the colt pulls through. Whether he ever races again is not really important. He gave all the fans plenty.
chad mc rory More than 1 year ago
They give us all they got...
unmarx1 More than 1 year ago
Paynter per Zayat has laminitis and DIC diease. need a huge miracle now. poor, poor Paynter.
Susan Huart More than 1 year ago
Do you mean C-diff? That's really bad. Another side effect of antibiotic therapy. Laminitis at this stage is further compromising recovery effort. That poor horse.
Susan Huart More than 1 year ago
I've followed Paynter and his story since the Haskell. He's been sick most of this time and other websites have followed his illness as well. Many vets have commented here and elsewhere. Maybe it's time for a second opinion? Paynter's complications and TX of symptoms continue. Meanwhile, continued good wishes for team effort and health of Paynter.
Ray Sousa More than 1 year ago
it would be nice to believe that these beautiful creatures were not being compromised by all the medication they are given to run faster.and that when they got sick it was a natural act of nature that could happen to any living creature.it would be nice.but thats not the reality of the sport in america today.the push push and push again attitude ,the excessive greed and ego of the people involved is making what should be rarer occurenses a lot more common.a look at this years talented 3yo crop shows us all the problems with how racing is conducted by the people who are in charge.ILL HAVE ANOTHER retired amid speculation of racing under pain killers and possibly more.BODEMEISTER sidelined by fevers and other unknown ailments.top 2yo and top 3yo UNION RAGS retired physical issues.STREET LIFE retired physical issues,PAYNTER fevers, colitis,safe to assume hes retired .HANSEN champ 2yo and top 3yo physical issues possibly retired after all the tail painting nonsense his owner put him through.i could go on but these are just the most talented ones there are hundreds of other that where out before they could even compete in the top races,then theres the past examples of UNCLE MO strange unknown liver ailments retired,ESKENDERAYA ,etc.maybe a little more rest and compassion and a little less ego and greed would go a long way to having these animals stay healthy longer.
Colette More than 1 year ago
Do all of you not realize that this entire scenerio could also happen to you, any human? Every day, in every ER, people come in as a patient with an initially unknown diagnosis. Doctors have always tended to automatically order an antibiotic, before they even know if the person has an infection. Their thinking was to attacck an infection ASAP & if there is no infection, no harm is done. Well, that thinking is changing although almost daily I still find myself looking at that order for an antibiotic & asking the doctor why we are giving the antibiotic, what are we treating? Most times, they will realize or re think this old habit & wait for lab & xray results before giving an antibiotic & then only giving it when needed. This way of treating, with antibiotics, when an animal comes to the hospital with a yet to be diagnosed illness is also how vets often treat animals, for the same reasons doctors do in ERs. It has always been viewed as sort of "chicken soup"; that it won't hurt the patient (as long as they are not allergic) but will start conquering an infection ASAP if it is later found an infection is present. My sister is a vet. She primarily works with small animals; although she does have a few farms as clients. She has also been changing how she treats a sick animal. Both human medicine & animal medicine literature is now recommending it better to wait for lab results before just giving a broad spectum antibiotic. She said one of the vets she works with still automatically gives an antibiotic before getting lab results to see if one is needed. This change in practice will happen slowly over time, but it is still done. It is entirely possible Paynter was given an antibiotic in the New Jersey hospital as an automatic course of treatment before it was known if he had a pneumonia or not. It is a known medical fact that antibiotics can & do occasionally cause colitis as does tainted food or food poisoning in both humans & animals. Colitis can cause an animal to become septic, it can also do the same in humans. Sepsis is when an infection finds it's way from it's initial area of infection & into the bloodstream. Once that occurs, other areas of the body become infected from the infected blood which causes multiple system or mutiple organ failure. That is why Paynter's doctors were keeping a close eye on his liver function labs, kidney function labs & his lungs. Any change in those would indicate he onset of sepsis. Colitis can cause malnutrition in both animals & humans. Malnutrition will cause a lowering of blood protein which in turn causes serum to leak from blood vessels, leading to edema. It is impossible to know whether it was the un-necessary antibiotics since it was found Paynter did not have pneumonia after all or if it was tainted food that caused his colitis. Antibiotic caused colitis is one of the reason antibiotics are no longer recommended as a first portion of emergency treatment; until after lab results are obtained. I wasn't there at the NJ vet hospital when Paynter was there. But, it sounds like pneumonia was one of the diagnosis that was suspected & he was treated for it with antibiotics that he probably didn't need. This entire scenerio, of Paynter's illnesses, could also happen to a human & can happen without "doping" or anything shady or illegal. That is the whole point of what I have been posting about since Paynter got sick. In my 25 yrs of working in the Intensive Care Unit before switching to the ER 7 yrs. ago, I have seen patients, very healthy people, end up with similar complications as Paynter has. It is always devastating & shocking as you fight to save their lives. But, my point is it can happen & does happen without anything shady occuring beforehand. Colette
Thomas Cook More than 1 year ago
Collette. God bless you for your romantic ideals on the forum. Aren't you the same woman and nurse who was appalled at the coonnections of the filly Ellivette that broke down post race at Del Mar?? Didin't we agree that it could have been negligence and greed which caused the catastophy? Both by trainers and officials involved.. So why do you refuse to use your intelligence and experience and be objective about how this colt MAY have become ill in the first place?? And who may be responsible. Have you put any thought into researching my suggestions. I understand it is a very delicate situation. I also understand the sad times here since Baffert has just lost his father and people are morning that loss as well as Paynter's situation. But this forum in my opinion demands an intelligent objective debate. Maybe it was just sour grain that caused Paynter's illness. But why all the spin?? Why if Paynter had pneumonia were people around him joking about his condition and ststing he was going to run in a few weeks?? Bless this colt and all around him in these difficult times. I truelly pray each day for all of them and for Paynter. But there is a forum here that goes way beyond personal feelings.
Colette More than 1 year ago
Thomas, a lot of what you saqy, in the protection of the horses, I definately aggre with. aa big advocate of always erring on the side of caution. This past weekend, for example, I was not at all happy to see Jackson Bend racing, so soon after being knocked out cold in the track accident 2 weeks ago at Saratoga. Some reports say he was down, on the track for 5 mins., some say it was 10 mins. Besides possible internal injuries from the impact, I'd also be concerned about a concussion. Concussions cannot be seen on CAT Scans, xrays or MRI's. It can only truly be diagnosed by history of what occured. Loss of consciousness is always considered to be a concussion, at the very least. I was shocked that the trainer, the owner & the vets allowed him to be raced. The result was he didn't run well. I'd read that as an indication that he has not yet fully recovered from the accident & shouldn't have been racing. I do not have a romanticized view about racing. I am well aware of the many wrongs. done. However, I don't believe that is the case with Paynter. Believe me, I am not one of those who adore B.Baffart & see him as a "training God". But, I can clearly see a scenerio where a horse goes to the hospital, maybe with some dehydration, which is usually not considered serious once fluids are given, be given an antibiotic, just in case he has a pneumonia, on arrival, be found to not have a pneumonia for thesame reasons I talked about in my last post. Your first reaction is that something shady went on. My first reason was... Da--n it!! Why did they put him on antibiotics for a suspected pneumonia he didn't have? Right away I suspected the antibiotic caused the colitis & while you faulted the horse's connections, I faulted the vets, just like I laid ALL the blame for Life At Ten's travesty at the Breeder's Cup a few yrs. ago completely on the vets shoulders. How they couldn't see that she was tying up, as she was in the post parade. is beyond me. They have the schooling & the responsibility to know more about a horse's health than anyone else; just like we all expect our doctors & our childrens doctors to have more knowledge about our health than we do. I swear to you that I stood in my house, screaming at the TV for someone to notice as she continued towards the starting gate. I didn't fault Pletcher, the trainer. I faulted all of the 13 vets that were on the track that day. So much of what goes on on the tracks is, in my opinion, the fault of the vets. They are the ones with a medical degree, which is supposed to give them more knowledge than a non medical person. I am not saying the trainers are blame free. But, the vets rarely get blamed to anything & to me, they should be blamed for alot of what goes on on the tracks. In Paynter's situation, a medical cause for all of his illnesses is completely plausible & that is all I am saying. Your scenerio, in this case, I just find far fetched. Colette
John More than 1 year ago
Everything you say is always "could mean", "might mean", "sometimes mean", or "maybe means", you really need positive proof before your accusations should be taken serious. In the deleted Terry Marshall post, even a know nothing like me was able to point out his inaccuracies, yet you agreed 100% with his rant, and then ranted some more yourself.
Horse Cents More than 1 year ago
The same could also be said of the art of practicing medicine, which 90% of the time is "might mean", "sometimes mean", or "maybe means." One should have the free speach right to an opinion. Sometimes that opinion might have a few mistakes but usually is not enough for deletion of the overall opinion. Zayat now wants to add spin which is printed without question. So free speach is allowed for one but not another.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
If a person is going to make slanderous statements you need to have proof. I don't know why DRF deleted the guys post, I've certainly seen worse. The thing is, the guy didn't have his red and white blood cells straight and was trying to come across as an expert on blood doping, Thomas Cook agreed with him 100%.
Thomas Cook More than 1 year ago
If I stated facts I would be attacked. My speculation is no worse than the spin n varying stories being told. Least I back it up with medical research and experience.
Horse Cents More than 1 year ago
I have no problem with your logic for the most part, except a few areas. Paynter did not have pneumonia. He was not diagnosed with it and was not treated for it. The NJ vet said he was given fluids and other medications which most likey were antibiotics and a few other things. He sais he was fine, as did Baffert and Zayat. You don't give a horse fluids and a shot and a few days later send him off to train if he had pneumonia, you can rule that out and the vet never though he had it. He may have been exessively dehydrated at the NJ clinic but not caused by lasix which would have been taken care of after the race. Lasix was not the cause of this. The only thing we know was that after a temp spike he had a high red blood count. He reacted to something or something caused it. It was not lasix or pneumonia.
Mike Hawk More than 1 year ago
Mr. Zayat I wish the fastest possible recovery for him. Having just went through the same experience with my best broodmare and helping her fight for nine months after foaling. I had to do make the hardest decision for her well being and stop the suffering. Keep up the effort as long as you both can take it. They are much stronger than we think they are. He is a great colt and I love watching him compete.
John More than 1 year ago
Lets just hope the horse gets well ! He gave us some greats runs and Id love to see him on track again, but at the very least, lets send our prayers and hope he survives to a long happy life, racing or retirement !