05/09/2016 1:06PM

Mohaymen best of the East Coast horses

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Barbara D. Livingston
After finishing fourth in the Kentucky Derby, Mohaymen will not run in either the Preakness or Belmont Stakes.

ELMONT, N.Y. – It was not a particularly strong showing for the East Coast-based runners in Saturday’s Kentucky Derby.

Mohaymen, the Holy Bull and Fountain of Youth winner who also won a pair of graded stakes at Aqueduct last fall, had the best showing with a fourth-place finish after a slow break.

Trainer Kiaran McLaughlin said Mohaymen would not run in either the Preakness or the Belmont, but instead will have the Travers on Aug. 27 as his next major goal, with a possible start in the Jim Dandy on July 30.

McLaughlin said that Mohaymen would ship to Shadwell Stable’s Kentucky farm to get looked over before shipping to Saratoga.

Trainer Todd Pletcher’s duo of Destin (6th in the Derby) and Outwork (14th) were scheduled to arrive at Belmont on Monday afternoon.

Pletcher said he wants to watch both horses train before deciding where to point them. The Preakness is not in the plans for either horse.

My Man Sam (11th) was on the same flight with Pletcher’s pair. Trainer Chad Brown said he would observe My Man Sam over the next week or so and come up with a plan moving forward. He is definitely not running in the Preakness.

Of the Derby, Brown said:“I liked my trip very much in the first turn. There was no one around him. But then he got bogged down there and could never really punch.”

Brown’s other Derby starter, Shagaf, was pulled up and did not finish the Derby. Brown sent Shagaf to the Rood and Riddle Equine Hospital in Lexington, Ky., on Monday to be examined.

“He didn’t come out of the race satisfactory for me, so he’s being examined this morning at Rood and Riddle,” Brown said.

d More than 1 year ago
About 99% of posts on this board are ridiculous, or just flat out wrong.

1. Chad says jockies should know the track is playing speed and keep their horses closer to the pace. First off, some horses don't have the tactical speed to stay close. Not to mention, the derby was a 20 horse field, so it's tough to stay close when breaking from a terrible post.

2. Chuck, I'll bet you any amoun you want that Mohaymen WILL run again. He was working bullets before the derby, and more importantly, he was doing it ON SCHEDULE, working every 7 days or so (the norm) and didn't miss any works- he's sound and beat 16 horses in the Derby. After running in every FLA prep then the derby, he just needs a rest. 

3. Nak says Gun a Runner moved too early- he was position the exact same way for ALL of his prep wins, so they did what had been working for them. Second, he basically ran the same 1/2 mile and 3/4 fractions as Nyquist, they were a length apart- bottom line, if Gun Runner moved later, he still doesn't beat Nyquist, it didn't cost him 5+ lengths!!!

4. Gun runner is NOT an east coast horse, unless the geography of the USA changed recently- he was based for all of his major preps at the Fair Grounds in Louisiana- since when is Louisiana on the east coast? Last time I looked at a map, it was in the Deep South of the Midwest. 

5. Sudden Breaking News would not have won if he was moved earlier! Had he moved earlier, he would of moved into faster fractions and had less left in the lane. And, he a horse can only come home so fast- basically the final 1/4 mile between 23 and 24 and change. 

6. The most ridiculous statement on here is about the east coast horses not training fast and hard enough. You must only bet horses and never been on the training side- horses don't run better in races cuz they worked faster. In fact, there's no correlation between winning and working fast- many of the best horses were trained by trainers that work horses slow! Perfect example is AP Indy - won triple crown races for drysdsle, who is known for working horses slow. Same with cigar, never pushed fast in works by Mott. Also, working horses fast takes its toll- work a horse continuously fast on the morning and he'll develop injuries. Seriously, you know nothing about racing. 


Sarah Farmer More than 1 year ago
Mohaymen, just isn't fast enough, compared to the west coast horses. Go back and look at his fountain of youth, he struggled there because the pace was quicker than the holy bull, the Florida derby and kentucky derby, was even faster paced splits. Mohaymen's a great horse, but some trainers don't push a 2 to 3 year old for everything he has for the derby, look at I'll have another, that Preakness race cooked him, and his tendons, literally, that was a great race, but unfortunately he was done after that. Mohaymen, baring injury, will be in the Dubai Classic next year! :)
Chad Shofner More than 1 year ago
As I said in a previous article the east coast trainers are getting to soft on there horses. The owners are just worried about making their money on their stallions fees. Congrats to Nyquist on a job well done. If the trainers and owners don't start working speed into the horse we should start calling in the cali derby. And if you know the track has been speed favoring wouldn't the jockeys have them in a somewhat better position? Makes me wonder. I think we as handicappers got to start handicapping not only the horse but all of its connections as well.
Chuck Seeger More than 1 year ago
Anyone want to bet we will never see Mohaymen race again?  Every year we see this scenario played out.  Potentially good horses wiped out foolishly chasing a ridiculous race (the derby).  
John Burton More than 1 year ago
I am starting to wonder if it's MOHAYMEN's jockey who is the cause of MOHAYMEN's poor performances in the last two races. I wish Kiaran would get a better jockey to ride MOHAYMEN. I was one of his loyal followeres and fan but I ended-up losing hundreds of dollars on him - always hoping he would run to his potnetial. What happened? I am so disappointed - and poorer!
Robert More than 1 year ago
Nothing happened. He is running to his potential. He beat average horses making him a little above average.  Many others better than him . See what 4 year old season brings us next year. Don't listen to the Media hype. 
lighthroughleaf More than 1 year ago
So tell us how Junior should have ridden him..

I bet Mohaymen early in the year but it became apparent that the horse, while having plenty of quality, had no early pace as time and races went on. Junior reacted correctly to this by not whipping him from the gate in the Derby and dropping him in to the rail to save ground and produce him late, since a late run off moderate fractions had led to the horses better early performances. It was close to a perfect ride as far as I'm concerned.

You think the horse has gate speed and should have been on Nyquists tail turning for home? Please.
Bill Feingold More than 1 year ago
I am with you 100% JB. I think if he'd been put into the race earlier...just look at some of the no-speed closers like Brody's Cause who were in front of him early...you might have seen a much better outcome. He is a classic stalker not a deep closer. That said, it's hard to argue he's better than Nyquist at this point.
Matthew Kennedy More than 1 year ago
McLaughlin cant train a Derby Horse, ala Cairo Prince, Frosted.  Is he pointing Mohaymen towards the Pennsylvania Derby? 
lighthroughleaf More than 1 year ago
Frosted, like Mohaymen, hadnt the early pace to get a position. You are castigating the man for being unable to change things beyond his control. Frosted ran a fine race against a very deep field.
Nakia Towery More than 1 year ago
If he waited till the turn i think he gets second
Nakia Towery More than 1 year ago
He did move Gun Runner to early n im sorry hes the best of the east coast. Not even close.
TomPHickey More than 1 year ago
Since when is Louisiana the east coast?
Jesus Herrera More than 1 year ago
He did move too soon, plus he was going to close to the pace unlike Louisiana races
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Even a drunk Kent D. Is better than J. Alvarado, did anyone else see suddenbreaking news 
eat up the ground down the stretch, he got left at the start also.
BrownRiggle More than 1 year ago
East coast horses aren't trained hard enough, never seen an East coast horse work 1:11 for a route race it's always some moderate 1:15 plucky type of gallop. When these west coast horse blitz the first 1/4 the race is virtually over because the East horses aren't used to that type of pace.