07/23/2013 5:09PM

Louisiana Downs bettors still chasing pick five jackpot


Louisiana Downs has a $492,866 super pick five jackpot carryover into Thursday’s card. The wager, which has a 50-cent minimum and runs on the last five races, has not been hit since June 27.

Last weekend, there was some confusion over whether the jackpot had been hit. If one individual ticket has the winners of the five races, the entire pool is paid to that person. If there is more than one winner, 50  percent of that day’s pool is paid out and the rest goes into the jackpot pool.

Coming into the final race last Saturday, the will-pays, or probable payoffs, that were displayed showed four horses in the race each had one live ticket going to them.

There was also a live, 4-for-4 ticket that used a scratched horse in the final race. Per the rules of the wager, that ticket would be transferred from the scratched horse to the post-time favorite, which ended up being the No. 1, Tsavo, who won the race. That made for two winning tickets on Tsavo, and thus a carryover.

Thursday’s super pick five jackpot begins in the fourth race, a $12,500 conditioned claiming sprint for Louisiana-breds led by Zarby’s Derby Day. The sequence continues in the fifth race with a $20,000 maiden claiming sprint for 2-year-old fillies topped by Bojana.

The sixth race, a $12,500 conditioned claimer at about a mile on turf, has the look of a solid favorite in Street Life Blues. The seventh race, a first-level allowance for fillies and mares bred in Louisiana, could go through the barn of trainer Pat Mouton with his starters, My Darlin’ Daphne and Stevie C, who start for separate interests.

The final leg, the eighth race, is a $5,000 maiden claimer that pits Gray Noble against comebacker Deridder.

1971 Whippet More than 1 year ago
My apologies for the brainless posts I made about this yesterday; must be old age. Anyway.... Find it curious that there may have been a betting war, with a bunch of money coming in on Tsavo to ensure that it'd go off as the post-time favorite (WPS pools in last race were more than 50% greater than any other reace last saturday). I can understand that the Super Pick Five bettors who didn't have Tsavo would've wanted to have another winner on the bet - forcing a payout of the consolation pool only - but there's just one problem. They would've needed to know that there was another possible ticket holder. Sorry, but the only people who might know there was another bet that'd go to Tsavo was __________________. This smells just like that BC Pick 6 from a few years ago.
Ryan Cale More than 1 year ago
yes. you definitely understand the problem much better today. and i think you are on the right track. it's not just that the guys who held the ticket with Tsavo lost out on the jackpot bc he became the favorite. it's also the fact the he was made the favorite with a lot of money coming in at the very last minute...and that the ticket was a 50 cent ticket purchased that morning. no one holding those other tickets on the other live horses would have cared who was the favorite. the only person who would have cared would have been the person with the ticket on the scratched horse. to say it was just a coincidence that the horse that won became the favorite at the last minute (costing the guys in WV the jackpot) and that the ticket was a 50 cent ticket bought early that morning is bordering on ludicrous. someone knew Tsavo was going to win the race and they didn't want anyone winning the jackpot. at least that's how it looks until someone shows me otherwise.
John Chaussee More than 1 year ago
Beyer is correct, these "Rainbow" multi-race bets are the worst play at the track.
Kent C More than 1 year ago
So someone singled a 30-1 shot in the final leg of that wager with a bet at 8 in the morning.... Nothing fishy about that at all.... Hope someone is investigating that.
Ronald George More than 1 year ago
The 30-1 single on the final leg was on a Quick Pick ticket. So the other guy with the winning ticket who thought he had won $488,000 got "robbed" by someone playing the equivlencey of a lottery ticket. One of the WORST if not the all-time worst bad beats in the history of horseracing. Next time myself or any other readers have a bad baet, remember, it could have been worse, you could have been THAT guy. (Poor bastard.)
Andrew More than 1 year ago
How do you know it was a Quick Pick ticket?
Ronald George More than 1 year ago
That Quick Pick info was conatained in the Paulick Report.
Ryan Cale More than 1 year ago
i don't think it was ever confirmed that it was a quick pick. just speculation, i believe. it would be nice to know for certain.
Mark Scheider More than 1 year ago
How would you ever know that the bettor had a "quick pick" ticket? And maybe Im out of the loop, but I didnt know such an option existed.
Ronald George More than 1 year ago
That Quick Pick info was conatained in the Paulick Report. The Quick Pick option is available for most types of bets at most tracks.
Don Reed More than 1 year ago
Louisiana needs a new software system to display the "Will Not Pays."
Ian GW More than 1 year ago
That don't seem right at all. 50 % pool is paid out? Said the ticket paid like $11k. So if two tickets hit that is $22k in payout. There is no way out of 150k pool or more that 50% is what paid. They take 25% take like the crooks they are and 75% left. Math is not right. The guys that hit that ticket get shammed. This thing rolls to the last day because its the only money they get. If they want it to hit you would be able to tell by the card. Its almost impossible when a strong fav wins a 6 or 7 horse field to start. Than you got another small field and rest avg size. If they made each leg 10-12 or more is the only way.
Christine Feenker More than 1 year ago
are they sure the "other" ticket holder isn't a graduate of Drexel University,this all smells familiar
mikey More than 1 year ago
Why not have an ae in case of a scratch.They had this years ago and the computer would put on a horse you want not what they give you.This way before the race is run they know what is really alive to what.Tracks just are lazy and want carryovers for the $$$$ they take out.
william13544287 More than 1 year ago
who in there right mind would play this bet again no chance
Scott Fletcher More than 1 year ago
Why does anyone play these bets? From the story "50 percent of that day’s pool is paid out and the rest goes into the jackpot pool." So, you're paying 23+ % takeout for a half-price payout. Really? Play the game... When is the last day of the meet? That's the day I show up! I caught the "Rainbow 6" at Gulfstream in 2012.. $.10 bet ($30 ticket) paid over $3000.00
Mark Scheider More than 1 year ago
I don't understand why you wouldn't? I have never played Louisiana Downs in my life and will have a ticket on Thursday. Who cares what the takeout is? Look at the takeout on LOTTO! Play Saratoga and/or DelMars Pick 6 today, spend a small fortune and get paid less if you hit that than a .50 Pick 5. Now, Louisiana Downs will require more keen handicapping than DelMar and Saratoga because you are not dealing with formful horses like the other tracks and that alone deters people from playing but I certainly am not letting a pool that can potentially pay me $600,000 if I hit it alone scare me away.
Matt More than 1 year ago
So if the track says your the only ticket alive to a certain horse in the last race you may actually not be the only ticket alive to that horse depending if somebody else scratched and another pk5 was played at an off track betting facility? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of putting up the Will pays? How can they put up a will pay saying your the only ticket alive only to find out later that someone else was alive at an off track betting facility due to a scratch?
John Howland More than 1 year ago
They display "probable" will pays,not definite will pays.I'm not saying this to defend them,it's just what they are.
Michael Griffiths More than 1 year ago
the transfer to the fav, only takes place after the pool is closed
Andrew More than 1 year ago
Well said Michael. Let me try and make it a little more clear. The probable payoffs are good unless a horse goes off as the post time favorite. In this case, these guys would have won the jackpot had they placed a sizeable win wager on the 2nd choice. Thus making their horse the 2nd choice and throwing all scratched tickets to the other horse. Matt, it doesn't matter where the bet was placed.