07/13/2012 4:41PM

Kentucky trainer, outrider suspended for running horse under false trainer's name


Kentucky stewards have suspended a trainer, an outrider, and a horse identifier because of their roles in the running of a horse under a false trainer’s name at the spring Keeneland meet, the chief steward, Barbara Borden, said Friday.

Stewards discovered that the horse was not being trained by the listed trainer after the horse, Superstardom, tested positive for the bronchial dilator clenbuterol following a third-place finish in a $25,000 claiming race at Keeneland on April 26. The horse has been disqualified, and the purse redistributed.

The trainer of Superstardom was listed that day as Larry Lay, but the real trainer was John Neal, an outrider at Keeneland, Borden said. Because Lay was the trainer of record, he was given a 30-day suspension for the clenbuterol positive. Kentucky rules, like those in all other states, require that the listed trainer be held responsible for post-race positive drug tests, regardless of circumstances. Lay has appealed the ruling.

Neal, meanwhile, was also given a 30-day suspension because he was the real trainer of the horse. Neal is not licensed as a trainer, and he will be required to appear before the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission’s Licensing Review Committee before being allowed to return to work.

In addition, according to Borden, the stewards issued a seven-day suspension against Carol Renn, a horse identifier at Kentucky tracks, because she was aware that Superstardom was not trained by Lay but failed to report the subterfuge to the stewards.

TEDK215 More than 1 year ago
seems theres a lot of xubterfuge going on in the world these days!!
STEPHEN MERCIER More than 1 year ago
Busted! ...another pathetic loser in a desparate bid to hold off his creditors......all this does is to bolster my overall confidence in playing a track like Keenland...there will always be cheaters
Ronnie Malo Rodriguez More than 1 year ago
How do you know if you're really looking at the horse you see on paper, can horse identifiers be bought off. and a good horse be substituted for a cheap claimer ending up in a romp at hugh odds. This that make you go hmmm.
Ray Sousa More than 1 year ago
one starts to wonder about the integrity of the whole process,so the horse identifier knows the horse is being trained by someone without a license and running under another trainers name and doesnt report it.makes you wonder what else she turns a blind eye to.the whole industry is just one big mess and it got this way because of the impunity,nobody gets a really serious punishment it all 7 day suspensions and 30 day suspensions,nobody get kicked out or fired permenantly,even duthrow get a 10 year suspension and continues to train and the track gives him stables.its one big f joke.
Ray Sousa More than 1 year ago
sorry the ss on my keyboard are bad.
Mark More than 1 year ago
The identifier's job is to insure that the horses in the race are in fact the same horses being saddled. That is all. The identifier checks the horses tattoo in the paddock and the tattoo is checked again in the test barn as they entered(the winner and special, which is supposed to be randomly selected horse) The tattoo is again checked by the state vet before blood is drawn. That is the procedure in Kentucky and most of the surrounding states. The reason the identifier is being punished is because she is a racing official and she should have told the stewards that Larry Lay did not train the horse. That is all. She is not being punished because she allowed the wrong horse to run.
Bsb Jaws More than 1 year ago
Nobody said she was. They said she can't be trusted . The wrong horses have run in Kentucky . The tickets are cashed long before the test barn !!
Mark More than 1 year ago
I am sure that has happened at several race tracks including those outside Kentucky... The fact is that the person will be punished because the tattoo is checked in the test barn as well. I guess a person wouldn't mind risking their career over trying to cash a ticket! I am sure that you could start with paranoia that the starter and assistant starters could be involved in getting horses off bad just to cash tickets too.
Matt More than 1 year ago
No system is going to be perfect. Show me any industry that is corruption free. I bet you would be hard pressed. It is part of life. The punishments should get more severe with the severity and frequency of offenses, but there is nothing for stewards to do when the courts get involved and force their hands. Take Robby Albarado's situation. He was not going to be allowed ride, but he gets an injunction and is riding at Arlington Park. Dutrow got the courts to allow him to keep training. He has the money to fight these things. Corruption is going to be in racing or any kind of gaming. People know that in horse racing anything can happen and you can lose your money. If you can't afford to lose, then don't gamble. I own horses and gamble for enjoyment. I don't do both thinking that they will make me rich. Some days I win, some days I lose. I think that you both make valid points, but I don't think there will ever be an answer. I don't think that ruling the identifier off for life is a reasonable request. The lady made a mistake and probably will not do so again. I am sure that these things could happen, but are probably rare. "Bsb jaws" mentioned in a different post that the wrong horses have run at Kentucky tracks before. I am sure that the reason he knows this is because someone was caught. The amount of times this happened could probably be counted on one hand over the last few decades.
Cover2 More than 1 year ago
Mikey, hates everything ! Giving NYRA a bad rap, Along with Belmont, were the ones who put O Neill & Co & all other starters in detention barn,,,,," lets see if giving something."......resulting in scratch of IHA.....heat on leg ? Please, maybe in future stipulation, enter TC,,,,,,b 4 scratch...."our vets will examine, thank U "
Nick Arden More than 1 year ago
Your writing is incomprehensible.
Dennis Fisher More than 1 year ago
One of many thousands
Cover2 More than 1 year ago
This stuff still goes on in racing, get an edge, like the horse few yrs ago Fair Grounds, just jumped in at qtr pole (in fog) really had meaning........................
Bsb Jaws More than 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure I've seen (well not really seen ) Court Vision (i think ?) pull off the old Fog trick @ Aqu ? hehehe
Dennis Geier More than 1 year ago
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
I have no problem with the training part of this. Most all horses racing for the large trainers are really being "trained" by someone else (usually they have an asst. trainers license, but not always). Also some owners train some of their own horses off track and ship in and run under a trainer they work with. I did this for many years. The real problem is this belief in "therapeutic" meds like clenbuterol. Most horses do not need this med, but it is now routinely given to the vast majority of horses racing. The guise is that it is needed to clear the lungs of horses that bleed. But believe it or not, most horses do NOT bleed during a race. Sure some do, but scope most horses after a race and they are clean. Clenbuterol is used primarily because it is a anabolic steroid and some racing jurisdictions are FINALLY recognizing this. http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/70033/chrb-severely-restricts-use-of-clenbuterol All these trainers and naive (or cheating) owners that are screaming that all horses need these therapeutic meds are full of crap. The VAST majority of horses do not need something like clenbuterol on a routine basis. Sure, if the bleeding is significant and legitimately documented by some type of neutral source, (not by some lying vet who wants to make money by giving an injection, a scope, and keep the trainer happy) then by all means use clenbuterol. But the horse shouldn't run for at least 6 weeks after its use. Hell, if a horse bleeds significantly it should have a minimum of 6 weeks off. The biggest problem in racing is medications (both legal and illegal drugs). It is the fools that like to think because a drug is legal (i.e., therapeutic) it is o.k. if an overage is detected. This is a much cheating as using illegal drugs like dermorphin and should be recognized as such and penalized as such.
Ray Sousa More than 1 year ago
i agree ,but when unlicensed people are training the horses the we might as well play the lottery all the stats are phony,at least the assistants are following the bosses routine(we hope),these other guys are not even accountable.
Bsb Jaws More than 1 year ago
Clenbuterol is not the same as butezalodin(butchered that I'm sure) clenbuterol is banned in Ca. and in some other states. The 7 day suspension for the tatoo checker is a big problem. She should be banned for life . How many times has she been aware that the horse in the 2nd race at *kentucky tracks* wasn't the named horse ? I don't know, because the Identifier is a known cheat and she's only getting a 7 day suspension. :-(
Mark More than 1 year ago
the identifier did not allow the wrong horse to run... She was suspended because she knew that the trainer of the horse was not Larry Lay. She actually did her job. It was the correct horse. The betting public was not deceived on any facts other than the real trainer.
Bsb Jaws More than 1 year ago
No kidding. What are you dense. I don't know how many times she's passed the wrong horse if ever,buttZ... she's not trustworthy so I have to wonder !! Get the point . I know she's not on vacation for passing the wrong horse . Get it !
Mark More than 1 year ago
I guess by your logic if you have a speeding ticket you should have your drivers license taken away because you can't be trusted and could kill someone in the future! That is absolutely ridiculous. She was not guilty of major infraction(reason for the 7 day suspension) You conspiracy theorists are always worried about someone trying to get one over on you. Life is too short. I guess you need an excuse when you don't cash a ticket on a particular race... It must have been the identifiers fault.
Ray Sousa More than 1 year ago
theres a bigger issue here,when a trainer gets licensed he has to go through a process that involves a test of his knoledge and a background check,to have someone else actually trains the horse it opens up a bunch of questions and throws the handicapping of the race on its nose,for example lets say the trainer on record wins 35% with blinkers or off a layoff bettors might take those stats into considerarion on the horse.if hes trained by some one else those stats are useless.the fact that mr neal was given only a 30 day suspension is another sign of the disrespect that the customers of racing have to endure from stewards and the racing authorities in general and why the federal gov should regulate the conduct of people in this sport,with regulation maybe jail sentences and or stiff fines as opposed to tokken suspensions would applied.to the critics of a gov takeover i ask what else do you need to see?,we already know that trainers are using performance enancing drugs and beating the tests,that jockeys are cheating on a regular basis and that both jockeys and trainers are not punished when caught,on occasion the horse runs in another horses name when the blind track officials catch them its always reported as an inoccent mistake,now we learn that the horses are not even trained by the guy whos listed as trainer is it any surprise this horse tested positive.
Bsb Jaws More than 1 year ago
*we already know that trainers are using performance enhancing drugs and beating the tests ... * The article is about not beating the test Ray. The horse tested positive .