Updated on 05/04/2013 1:31PM

Kentucky Derby: Rain turns track sloppy


LOUISVILLE, Ky. – As of 1 p.m. Eastern, the updated forecast for the balance of Kentucky Derby Day is not encouraging.

With the main track at Churchill Downs already downgraded to sloppy and the turf course to good after several hours of a steady drizzle, there is little sign of a let-up, according to the latest forecast from TheWeather Channel.

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The hour-by-hour forecast calls for continued light rain until about 5 p.m., when the precipitation is supposed to become even heavier. At 6 p.m., the forecast is for cloudy skies, after which rain is supposed to resume. Post time for the 139th Kentucky Derby is 6:30 p.m.

Radar continues to show a dense cover of rain moving slowly in a northeastern direction from the southwest. High temperatures will reach the low 60s.

Churchill track superintendent David Lehr has kept the track sealed all day. Clearly, he will continue to monitor the situation closely and act accordingly. Although it rained at Churchill and the surrounding area shortly after the Kentucky Oaks was run Friday, there was not much overnight rain, and the track was rated fast through the fifth race.

Only five of the 19 runners in the Derby have ever raced on an off track: Revolutionary, Giant Finish, Palace Malice, Itsmyluckyday, and Vyjack.

The last year for a Derby with an off track was 2010.

With the turf downgraded to good, the chance of Point of Entry scratching from the Grade 1 Woodford Reserve Turf Classic would seem to increase. Trainer Shug McGaughey has said he will consider scratching his turf star from the race if the course became too saturated.



Craig More than 1 year ago
Orb is a gift if he holds at 7 to 1.Wet or not.
Billy Spathanas More than 1 year ago
Here we go, to the betting window ! Sloppy track could make someone alot of money here this afternoon so good luck to all you betters today, the Derby is here today ! The horse that can win this today outright is VYJACK at 30/1 . Frac Daddy is 25/1. I see the Tri and Super paying big Money $$ 20/18/15/2 Exact/boxed/singled every way Good Luck Every one, this what we have been waiting for.. The First saturday in May $$
Wesley Wright More than 1 year ago
Yesterday my top choices were Orb, Revolutionary and Java's War With the sloppy track today, I still like Revolutionary but I am going to put Verrazano and Itsmyluckyday as my second and third choices. The rain changes everything! I don't want to overanalyze, but that's my two golden cents.
Mary Anne Tobin More than 1 year ago
Are bends allowed in KY? Oh Boy I have to go to work at 5pm. Have fun everyone.
Cuvee's Daughter More than 1 year ago
Speed has been holding and the track was sealed.....keep him close with the blinks Michael !
Douglas More than 1 year ago
ITSMYLUCKYDAY : This colt "by all means" seems to me to be the Derby colt for the course . Maybe : not the head-liner : but has the "walk for the talk" ! If anyone NEVER considers weather - then : this sport is not too important for them-self . I am going to take a RISK n REWARD wager and try cashing in on wagering mainly for the 3rd place position ( all - all - 3 ) ( all - all - 9 ) ( all - all - 12 ) ( all - 5 - 3 ) ( all - 5 - 9 ) ( all - 5 - 12 ) TRIFECTAS . . . . . ( all - 5 - 3 - 18 , 19 ) ( all - 5 - 9 - 18 , 19 ) ( all - 5 - 12 - 18 , 19 ) SUPERFECTAS $200 PLACE ( 5 ) $800 SHOW ( 5 )
Douglas More than 1 year ago
ALL - ALL - 3 WAGER RETURN $3 , 4 6 2 . . . . . What is sad is "that" my very 1st original P L A Y was the one that cashed in !
Mike Rutledge More than 1 year ago
About 8 years ago I had my picks for the superfecta. Every year I bet a $100 super ticket. It rained that year so i took out 2 of my picks & replaced them with 2 that had high Tomalson #s. They came exactly as I had originaly picked them & with my tickets added in with the winning tickets I would have won just under $1.4 million. So I will keep my original picks this time (only $40 now) & add another combination for rain. I learned my lesson.
georget More than 1 year ago
Toughest one I ever heard. Expensive lesson!
John Nicoletti More than 1 year ago
Oops. Normandy Invasion, has the off track pedigree, also.
John Nicoletti More than 1 year ago
There is an old saying."SPEED IN THE MUD." Front runners traditionally, fare better in the mud and slop. I expect Oxbow,Orb,Will Take Charge, and Frac Daddy, to run a decent race on the off track. The entire race is now pick a number.
Jon More than 1 year ago
not exactly true, front runners in the slop & late runners in the mud.
Jerry Cumberland More than 1 year ago
Right there Jon. The only important thing about the off track is any bias it may create.
Eric More than 1 year ago
Here are the things that I won't be considering when handicapping the derby: Post position and track condition (either overrated as a handicaping variable or a complete unknown that I can't possibly factor into my thinking with any confidence whatsoever), trainer or jockey. Here is what I will consider: Proven ability (trumps everything else), projected race shape and my estimate on who might improve going the distance.
Nick Arden More than 1 year ago
I agree but the problem with proven ability is that these horses come into the Derby so lightly raced nowadays that it is hard to know what their true ability is. Most people didn't expect IHA to be the monster he was last year. In 1970s favorites won 6 times with second betting choice winning twice.