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Updated on 06/17/2012 3:11PM
Kentucky Derby entry to be determined by new points system
Churchill Downs has abandoned the system that awarded the 20 starting berths in the Kentucky Derby to horses with the most graded-stakes earnings in favor of a system that will award points to the top four finishers in 36 stakes leading up to the May race, the company said on Thursday.
The new system, which will be put in place for the 2013 Derby, will put the most weight on the results of the high-profile 3-year-old stakes races that are run in the six weeks prior to the Derby while minimizing the relevance of rich 2-year-olds races such as the $2 million Breeders’ Cup Juvenile and $1 million Delta Downs Jackpot. It will also dramatically shrink the number of races in which a horse can improve its standing in the competition to earn one of the 20 berths. Under the old system, which had been in place since 1986, horses could amass graded-stakes earnings in 185 different races.
Also, none of the races under the new system are run at under one mile, and only one of the 36 races in the new eligibility system is run on the turf. Churchill president Kevin Flanery said on Thursday that those restrictions will ensure that horses that qualify for the 1 1/4-mile Derby will have demonstrated that they can compete in race conditions similar to the Derby.
“It seems kind of common sense,” Flanery said. “We’ve seen horses that have never run a mile qualify for the Kentucky Derby. We saw it this year,” a reference to the longshot speedball Trinniberg.
Under the new system, seven races traditionally held in the six weeks prior to the Derby would award the most points to potential starters. The races include the six most high-profile Derby preps – the Florida Derby at Gulfstream, the Louisiana Derby at Fair Grounds, the Wood Memorial at Aqueduct, the Santa Anita Derby at Santa Anita, the Arkansas Derby at Oaklawn, and the Blue Grass Stakes at Keeneland – along with the UAE Derby in Dubai. The top four finishers in those seven races will earn points on a 100-40-20-10 scale.
Eight races held in the months prior to those seven stakes races will earn points on a 50-20-10-5 scale. Those races, which have traditionally been viewed as preps for the final Derby preps, include the Risen Star at Fair Grounds, the Fountain of Youth at Gulfstream, the Gotham at Aqueduct, the Tampa Bay Derby at Tampa Bay Downs, the San Felipe at Santa Anita, the Rebel at Oaklawn, the Spiral at Turfway, and the Sunland Derby at Sunland Park.
Also, two races run in the weeks prior to the Derby will allow the top four finishers to earn points on a 20-8-4-2 scale. Those races are the Lexington at Keeneland and the Derby Trial at Churchill.
In addition to those 17 races – which Churchill is calling the Kentucky Derby Championship Series – 19 races held between September and February will earn the top four finishers points on a 10-4-2-1 scale. Those races include some rich 2-year-old stakes, including the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile, the Delta Jackpot, and the Champagne Stakes. In the past, winners of the BC Juvenile and Delta Jackpot have had a significant leg up in qualifying for the Derby, even though the races are run seven to eight months prior to the race.
Conspicuously absent from the list of qualifying races is the Illinois Derby at Hawthorne. A Grade 3 worth at least $500,000 every year except one (2011) since 1991, the Illinois Derby has failed to produce a noteworthy Triple Crown horse the last couple seasons, but has done so several times in the last decade. Significant Illinois Derby winners include War Emblem, who won the Derby and Preakness in 2002; Ten Most Wanted, second in the 2003 Belmont and winner of the Travers; Sweetnorthernsaint, the 2006 Derby favorite who was second in the Preakness; and Musket Man, third in the Derby and Preakness in 2009.
“I just found out this morning,” said Hawthorne president Tim Carey. “It’s mind-blowing to me that we could be left out of the mix. Churchill Downs, I guess they control racing in the United States these days. We’re still going to have the race. We’re not going anywhere.”
The changes also reduce the stature of the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile as a Derby qualifying race. Jim Gluckson, a spokesman for Breeders’ Cup, said: “We have seen the new Derby qualifying points system today and are reviewing it. If we have some suggestions and comments on it, we’ll forward those to Churchill Downs.”
[MORE: Trainers skeptical of Kentucky Derby eligibility changes | Ranking the 2012 field]
Darren Rogers, Churchill’s senior director of communications, said that Churchill staff have estimated that a horse with 40 points under the new system “would in all likelihood” qualify for a spot in the Derby field. According to “scores of scenarios” that Churchill officials ran, the top points earners will likely go into the Derby with 120 to 150 points, Rogers said, while the lowest points earners could qualify with anywhere from 20 to 30 points.
In the event that two or more horses have the same number of points, the ranking of the horses will be determined by the amount of earnings in non-restricted stakes races.
In abandoning the graded-stakes earnings system, Flanery said that Churchill would be better able to “control” the paths that lead to a Kentucky Derby berth. He said the graded-stakes earnings system has given tracks incentives to create races that were not ideal in determining which horses should be eligible to run in the Derby.
“We [Churchill] should be making sure we have the proper path to the Derby,” Flanery said. “It’s all about making sure that on the first Saturday of May we have the best horses, the best competition, the best story, the best event possible.”
Flanery also said that the new system would be simpler for both horsemen and racing fans to follow and comprehend, especially by putting the most weight on the races that are run in the six weeks prior to the Derby.
A similar system of 35 races will also be put in place to determine the 14 starters for next year’s Kentucky Oaks. Under that system, six races traditionally run in the months leading up to the Oaks will earn points on the 100-40-20-10 scale.
Flanery said that the systems were devised over the past 11 months, and that Churchill officials would consider tweaking the list of races that would earn points over the years. He said he could “easily envision” that the series would be expanded to 40 races.
“We’re not afraid of change,” Flanery said. “We’re not afraid of being flexible. We want to make sure the Kentucky Derby is a viable, living, breathing event for years to come.”
- additional reporting by Marcus Hersh
|Royal Lodge||1M (T)||
|Breeders' Futurity||1 1/16M (S)||
|Grey||1 1/16M (S)||
|BC Juvenile||1 1/16M||
|Delta Downs Jackpot||1 1/16M||
|Kentucky Jockey Club||1 1/16M||
|CashCall Futurity||1 1/16M (S)||
|Lecomte||1M 70 yds||
|Robert B. Lewis||1 1/16M||
|Sam F. Davis||1 1/16M||
|El Camino Real Derby||1 1/8M (S)||
Kentucky Derby Championship Series
|First Leg of Series||
|Risen Star||1 1/16M||
|Fountain of Youth||1 1/16M||
|Tampa Bay Derby||1 1/16M||
|San Felipe||1 1/16M||
|Spiral||1 1/8M (S)||
|Sunland Derby||1 1/8M||
|Second Leg of Series||
|Florida Derby||1 1/8M||
|UAE Derby||1 3/16M (S)||
|Louisiana Derby||1 1/8M||
|Wood Memorial||1 1/8M||
|Santa Anita Derby||1 1/8M||
|Arkansas Derby||1 1/8M||
|Blue Grass||1 1/8M (S)||
|Lexington||1 1/16M (S)||
|The Cliff's Edge Derby Trial||1M||
The point system is unfair. The Illinois Derby which has produced Derby Winners gets no points. The Triple Crown will have no meaning from now on.
Did any one think that trainer will start to push they younge horses to hard then then a lot more break downs wil happen they be more talk for the people that say horse racing is not good , money earning should be good or the top finishers in a couple of. Preps, go uncaptured go
Too many synthetic races on the list!!!!!!!!!!! 10 for a win and 4 for a second? ALL races should have the same point schedule. If you win 2 GI's and decide you horse needs rest with your 20 points, some slob can win a 50 point race and knock you out? Point schedule SHOULD NOT interfere with a trainers/owners decision to rest a horse.
want to see that horse racing to keep going,but also needs to be envestigated,owners and jockeys that are filling there own pockets,we the people see when a jockey is holding a horse back,or doesnt even try with a 3/5 shot. this is bad horse racing,ive been handy capping horses for years, 24 to be exact and its to a point where racing is so bad and obvious,its time to turn to somthing else.CLEAN UP YOUR BAD BUISINESS
Well, well, well, Let's see, if trinniberg had WON the Derby, they. Would probably move the race to finger lakes or beulah from next year. So with this being said, they should have left every thing alone and just added one simple step. Every horse competing in the Derby must have at least 2 races beyond 1 mile. This will ensure they have the stamina to at least attempt the additional furlongs require for the Derby. Last, when horses have high earnings the chances are the won a few credible races before. Yup any horse can have a fluke race, but high graded earnings indicates other wise. Owners spend a lot to get their runners ready and compete in high profile races. I guess if we spend thousands to get our children ready for the state spelling bee, then we should not enter them because all they won was local contest right. wrong......... If you earned it , you deserved it. My point,,,, don't stop the party, just modify the guest list to where everyone should be happy. I wonder if bodemeister has anything to do with all this attention to speed. Biology, pace makes race, but without speed, we would not closers and certainly will have no need for the belmont stakes..
The system was not flawed. It allowed for numerous avenues to qualify for the Derby which helped build fields in good races for several months. What if a great horse coughs or something a day before a 100-pointer? Then, they could be done--out of the Derby picture. It'll end up eliminating some peaking, talented stock. What if a dominant two year old champ has a minor set back in February after taking the Breeders Cup Juvenile by 8 and winds up with 10 points and out of the race? As far as the Derby goes, great races like the Remsen, Breeders Cup Juvenile (key race for the '09 colts) and CashCall Futurity are diminished in overall value. Also, the whole thing reeks of politics. The previous system swerved that. Why did the Illinois Derby get the shaft? Why is this sport pointing to Lasix as a bigger problem than Clenbuterol? Oh, that's a different subject.
Why don't we just go way overboard. Don't limit anything. Let 100 horses run in the derby. They can start from the parking lot and thread a needle to get unto the track.
I would actually change one other thing as well since they are rolling the dice : I would Make the Derby purse the " Least " of the Triple Crown races " oh but you know thats not happening " ! I would make the Preakness the Now 2nd highest purse ! The Belmont Stakes ( Should Be ) the Highest purse of the Triple Crown Series .
This pattern will work . Has an awesome design towards earning points . I truly like it . This is the pattern that was talked about during the Derby week . I am sure happy to hear that they are in favor of doing something diffrent , that holds a more solid pattern towards each colt . I honestly dont see this effecting our " Top 14 Colts " each year . I can even see colts actually racing less as a 2 yr old . This will not hurt the Breeders Cup Juvenile race at all . In fact - I like this pattern , that will make connections think more about the 3 yr old " winter - spring " ! Bob Baffert has changed our racing towards a Higher level . Congrats Bob
my last comment- as the derby draws closer- say mid-march- we are going to see a lot of the "bubble" horses (say spot 15 and higher) being entered in too many oversubscribed races, eliminating other colts and elevating these entrants to be more susceptable to injury due to being over raced. Perhaps there should be a limit set upon the number of races each horse can enter as well.