11/25/2014 2:07PM

Field at 3-5 for Pool 1 of Derby Future Wager

Shigeki Kikkawa
American Pharoah, this year's FrontRunner Stakes winner, is listed at 12-1 in Pool 1 of the Kentucky Derby Future Wager.

LOUISVILLE, Ky. – The mutuel field is an overwhelming morning-line favorite in the first pool of the 2015 Kentucky Derby Future Wager, which is set to open Friday.

Churchill Downs on Tuesday released the names of the 23 separately listed entrants for Pool 1, which opens Friday at noon Eastern. The field, the 24th or “all others” option, is pegged as the 3-5 favorite, followed by American Pharoah at 12-1, Texas Red at 15-1, and the rest at 20-1 or higher. Todd Pletcher has five of the 23 named, and Bob Baffert has four.

The first pool closes Sunday at 6 p.m. Eastern.

Last year was the first time Churchill offered a futures pool in November. Only one of the 23 horses listed, Ride On Curlin, actually made it to the Derby, with the field returning $3.60 for a $2 win bet. A $2 exacta combination of the field over Ride On Curlin (24-18) paid $207. Combined handle was $273,174, the fifth-lowest since pari-mutuel futures were inaugurated in 1999.

The dates for the three remaining 2015 Derby pools are Feb. 6-8, Feb. 27 to March 1, and March 27-29. A single Kentucky Oaks pool will coincide with the second of those three. The future wager is available through most North American outlets and advance-deposit wagering sites.

Futures Pool 1 BOX
(No., Horse, trainer, CD M/L)
1. American Pharoah, B.Baffert, 12-1
2. Blofeld, T.Pletcher, 20-1
3. Calculator, P.Miller, 20-1
4. Carpe Diem, T.Pletcher, 20-1
5. Classy Class, K.McLaughlin, 50-1
6. Competitive Edge, T.Pletcher, 20-1
7. Daredevil, T.Pletcher, 20-1
8. Dortmund, B.Baffert, 50-1
9. Eagle, N.Howard, 50-1
10. El Kabeir, J.Terranova, 50-1
11. Frosted, K.McLaughlin, 50-1
12. I Spent It, A.Dutrow, 50-1
13. Imperia, K.McLaughlin, 50-1
14. Lord Nelson, B.Baffert, 30-1
15. Lucky Player, S.Asmussen, 50-1
16. Mr. Z, D.Lukas, 30-1
17. Ocho Ocho Ocho, J.Cassidy, 20-1
18. Ostrolenka, T.Pletcher, 50-1
19. Punctuate, B.Baffert, 50-1
20. Texas Red, K.Desormeaux, 15-1
21. The Great War, W.Ward, 30-1
22. Unblunted, M.McCarthy, 50-1
23. Upstart, R.Violette, 20-1
24. Mutuel field (all others), n/a, 3-5


Pagani Zonda More than 1 year ago
I would right away draw a line through any horse trained by Baffert, Pletcher, Lukas, Assmussen and Ward.
Pagani Zonda More than 1 year ago
Derby Future wager = Sucker bet.
Pagani Zonda More than 1 year ago
Unless it is for pure FUN. Couple bucks kinda deal.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Steven Crist, among others, proposed that every horse should be a single entry. That would certainly boost the odds. The favorite would probably be 50-1.
Matthew Hood More than 1 year ago
CDI has always claimed that this would be impossible with the current pari-mutuel system to list that many horses for people to go to a teller at an OTB and bet. But, c'mon with today's technology there has to be a way to make this feasible. If CDI can spend $850 million on a mobile game company, couldn't they find a way to make this happen?
Walter More than 1 year ago
This bet should have a low takeout of 8%. Since this is a future bet, the take is pure profit for CDI. LOWER THE TAKE, and see your handle rise on this. Pass
Patrick J. Gianforte More than 1 year ago
I think they should eliminate the Field all together in this pool and the takeout should be ZERO, the 22 of 23 starters that did not make it to the starting gate is plenty of takeout. If you wanyt to see the handle rise and if you find a horse you want to bet, adding those two factors would get the porice a worth while venture.
Frank Reach More than 1 year ago
I've gotta say, I've never understood why anyone would bet into this pool. Alot of these horses IF they make the Derby might be at higher odds the day of the race anyway. If you ask me the Mutuel Field is the bet...but, at 3/5 that's not worth it either. It's a bad bet all around. I guess the really sick gamblers among us might go for this bet. But, just seems silly to lock up the money until May and that's IF your horse even makes it to the gate. Good luck all.
Andrew Connie More than 1 year ago
because you can find a horse @ +15000 and invest 33.33 and win 5,032.83! Hit Orb !i
scott More than 1 year ago
most people do it for fun. I have friends who like to pick out a pedigree or two and make a play. I think they enjoy following their horse and part of that is knowing that it's a small accomplishment if you just make the gate. Now I'm talking about 2$/5$ plays, so there really isn't any money "tied up" in the wager. We hit Chrome with the field exacta out of pool 3 last year which was over 800$ and paid just 300$ on race day. This is too early for me, but I'll throw a few bucks in there this spring. I would be interested to hear from someone who played a large amount of money into the pool. But I believe the majority of handle is people just having a little fun.
Walter More than 1 year ago
And where did you find those odds on Orb? Just curious.
Matthew Hood More than 1 year ago
Yeah those numbers don't make any sense. Is he saying Orb was 15,000-1? Because he was never anywhere near that. Also, who bet's $33.33 on a horse to win?
Joel Firsching More than 1 year ago
3/5 for the field. it shows how regular lasix use stunts the growth of most of its two year old male stars.
Harriet Stone More than 1 year ago
You are an idiot.
scott More than 1 year ago
Gotta go with Harriet on this one lol..... field might be 3/5 because you are getting a thousand horses.
Joel Firsching More than 1 year ago
Between 1973 and 1980, the Kentucky derby was won by the two year champion. 6 out of 8 years. That's only one horse, not 23 choices. No LASIX with these horses. So sit down and shut up.
Mike Reinhardt More than 1 year ago
And between 60 and 69 0 out of ten won. Was Lasix used then, idiot?