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Updated on 08/29/2013 2:24PM
Del Mar: Officials leave Pacific Classic time unchanged after review
DEL MAR, Calif. – The disputed Pacific Classic final time will stand.
Del Mar officials met Wednesday afternoon to discuss the final time of last Sunday’s Pacific Classic and decided that no disruption occurred with the timing mechanism, leaving the final time for Game On Dude’s electrifying win as 2:00.69 for 1 1/4 miles over the Polytrack synthetic surface.
Track timer Russ Hudak hand-timed the race in 1:59.96, while Trakus, a wireless radio frequency tracing system used at Del Mar, recorded a final time of 1:59.26.
Wednesday afternoon, several track executives, including Hudak and director of racing Tom Robbins, reviewed the race and found no evidence of a malfunction, such as a person tripping the timing device before the horses reached a beam that starts the clock.
"The bottom line is we haven't seen or heard anything that tells us a change is needed," Robbins said in a statement.
During the meeting, several camera angles were reviewed to see if anything odd happened at the start.
“It didn’t appear to happen,” Hudak said.
Hudak said the run-up from the placement of the starting gate to the beam is shorter for races over 1 1/4 miles at Del Mar, at 45 feet. He said the run-up for most races at Betfair Hollywood Park and Santa Anita range from 55 to 70 feet, meaning the runners are at a higher speed when the clock starts.
The official split times of the race, in quarter-mile increments, were 24.19 seconds for the first quarter-mile, 47.96 for a half-mile, 1:12.61 for six furlongs, a mile in 1:36.61, and a final time of 2:00.69.
Trakus recorded quicker times throughout 22.91, 46.83, 1:11.36, 1:35.31, and 1:59.26.
As a result of the discrepancy in the final times, Andy Beyer revised Game On Dude’s Beyer Speed Figure from 109 to 113 after a video review comparing the race with the 2012 running.
When Beyer’s colleague Randy Moss, well-known as a television racing commentator, studied Sunday’s race on a frame-by-frame basis and compared it to the 2012 running won by Dullahan, Moss said the race was .20 of a second slower than last year, at 1:59.74.
Basing the assessment on that final time, Beyer revised Game On Dude’s speed figure to 113. He said he was “a little surprised” by Del Mar’s decision not to alter the time.
“There are many times, for various reasons, when we consider the final time of a race to be an aberration,” Beyer said. “We’ll superimpose our judgment.
“I was a little surprised, but I guess I’m not shocked.”
Nonsense. If you run the videos of the 2012 and 2013 PC's in synch with the opening of the gate, the winners hit the wire at almost the exact same time. The difference in times seems to be coming from the run-up. 2013 appears to be gate timed, 2012 excluding the runup. Pretty darn clear.
Beyer figs are a joke just look at today races at SAR Kingston Bay ran 5.5f in 1:03-1 jly 22 race 4 gets an 85 Ziptronic ran rhe same time in race 6 the same day gets an 81 So beyers change in the same track same day an hour appart?
It is trhe gaping flaw in time handicapping. Class handicapping is more accurate. If a horse wins by 8.5 lengths in a Grade 1 filled with horses that have proven class, then he was running fast and is eligible to win any race on the planet. Beyer scores are for handicapping claiming and low end allowance races where it's hard to know all of the horses well enough to make meaningful class distinctions. In stakes races, it is far less useful. Why do you think that in a Grade 1 you often have a proven horse like GoD who will have a race on his line like: Grade 2, 9f, time 1:48.3 Now take the horse in the race that ran on the same track, just days apart, with the same time, with same pace in an allowance race...tthat allowance horse has ZERO chance of winning the Grade 1 race. That is a pretty regular occurence and speaks to how much more important class is at the highest level.
if drf is serious about accuracy they should look up the 5th race at Saratoga on Wednesday they listed the 7 horse KANT SMOKE as being regina madre (GB) BY CADEUX GRNERAUX (GB) when in fact it was a different mare with the same name REGINA MADRE by ILLINOIS STORM....a very big difference considering one CADEUX GEN is a European champion sprinter on turf and was a fairly decent sire and ILLINOIS STORM was not only a much less talented race horse and sire but also not much of a turf influence.....drf then went on to list the stats of the family listing several gr winners in Europe when in fact KANT SMOKE is not related to anyone notable..one wonder how often this happens.by the way the horse ran to his real breeding and finished up the track.
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I now went and froze the video on the wire at the finish, backed it up by the amount of the "official" time...and guess where the horses were? Every horse was still partly (mostly) inside the confines of the gate as it had just opened. Where did the 45 feet of run up, which is approximately five lengths? I also did 2012, which is better, but only a little. The horses are about two lengths at most out of the gate, but certainly not 5. The timing is off on that one too. (Trakus, by the way, had that one at 1:59.03). But hey, lets keep using outdated technology even though we have modern stuff in place. That makes sense.
For the 12 of the last 16 running a my partner and I have clocked the pacific classic as well as the majority of the races.we came up with 2:00 .22 .what beyer that is ,I don't know and don't care.
So does this change the price of gas??
Uh oh. Better get Mr. Beyer on the phone. He said it should be 105, then bumped it up to 109 just for the heck of it cause he thought it should be higher. But apples to apples, no malfunction for the timer so Mr. Beyer needs to move it back down to 105. If not, we need to have frame by frame analysis of every race.
Sounds like the actual race times aren't as accurate as we thought they were. A lot like morning workout times which can have a 2 to 3 second difference among the clockers