11/04/2012 2:10PM

Breeders' Cup Classic: Fort Larned, most of his rivals, intend to race again in 2013

Barbara D. Livingston
Fort Larned, getting a friendly pat from jockey Brian Hernandez, received a 117 Beyer Speed Figure for his win in the Breeders' Cup Classic.

ARCADIA, Calif. – All the principal runners from Saturday’s Breeders’ Cup Classic at Santa Anita, including the victorious Fort Larned, emerged from the race in good order, and most will remain in training for next year, their respective trainers said Sunday morning.

Fort Larned left Sunday morning for a flight to Kentucky, where he will be in light training at Churchill Downs before heading to Florida during the winter to begin his 2013 campaign, trainer Ian Wilkes said.

After owner Jan Whitham on Saturday said Fort Larned would remain in training at age 5, Wilkes said he’d “like to try this again.”

Fort Larned got a 117 Beyer Speed Figure.

Mucho Macho Man, who just missed when finishing second, “came out of his race great,” according to his trainer, Kathy Ritvo.

“He’ll stay here until Tuesday,” Ritvo said. “I’ll just let him rest a little before he goes to Gulfstream Park,” where Ritvo is based in the winter.

Ron the Greek and Flat Out, who finished third and fourth, respectively, for trainer Bill Mott, were scheduled to leave on Monday morning for Payson Park in Florida, where Mott spends the winter, according to his assistant, Rudolphe Brisset.

“They ran hard,” Brisset said. “They ate everything. Their legs look good. But they’re tired.”

Mott’s other runner, To Honor and Serve, who finished 10th in his final career start, left Sunday morning for Gainesway Farm, where he will enter stud.

Richard’s Kid, who finished fifth, “came out of it great,” according to his trainer, Doug O’Neill.

O’Neill said Richard’s Kid might race again this year, perhaps in Hong Kong, and that the Dubai World Cup was a possible early goal in 2013.

“This was the main goal this year,” O’Neill said of the Classic. “He came out of it in great shape. He ran a very credible race.”

Game On Dude, seventh as the 6-5 favorite, also emerged in good shape, according to his trainer, Bob Baffert.

Baffert was winless in nine BC races, and only one of his runners finished in the money.

“It started out bad when Super Ninety Nine was scratched on Friday after he got cast in his stall,” Baffert said Sunday morning. “We never got a chance to get out of our seats and cheer yesterday. Nothing went our way.”

Baffert said if Game On Dude runs again this year, it would be in the Grade 3, $250,000 Native Diver Stakes at Hollywood Park on Dec. 1, but he stopped far short of committing to that race.

Baffert had a remedy for the poor Breeders’ Cup showing.

“I think we’re going to go to Disneyland and shake this [stuff] off,” he said.

Pool Play, who was eighth, was accompanying Fort Larned on the flight back to Kentucky on Sunday.

“Actually he came out of the race great, which is good,” said his trainer, Mark Casse. “I’d have loved for him to run better, but he was good and healthy this morning.”

Casse said even though Pool Play likes Churchill Downs, coming back in the Clark Handicap later this month “might be a little too darn close.”

“It’s not impossible,” he said. “But shipping out here and back, that might be a little much.”

Brilliant Speed, who finished 11th in the 12-horse field in his career finale, is off to stud at Three Chimneys Farm.

DrSmoke120 More than 1 year ago
Think its great all these are coming back next year. The handicap division will be a great one. Can't wait!
James More than 1 year ago
WISE DAN ran a super fast race and should be HOY. How about Animal Kingdom's run off 8 month layoff?
DrSmoke120 More than 1 year ago
AK was awesome. Wise Dan should be HOY! I agree though my heart says Ft Larned, that colt made all his backers some cash this year.
denali1 More than 1 year ago
I would love to see HOY go to Fort Larned but Wise Dan hands down. AK ran his tail off watch out folks this colt is back another 50 feet and Wise Dan was toast.
James More than 1 year ago
Frankel went 0-38 before his first BC win
jttf More than 1 year ago
the 2 year old girls ran 1 second faster than the 2 year old boys. the girls had a slower track and a slower pace. looks like a filly will the kentucky derby. the reasons the beyer for the classic was so big is. the juvy and the dirt mile were run by below average quality fields. these 3 races were compared to each other to figure out the beyer number. wise dan only ran 2 seconds faster than the 2 year old boys one mile turf race on the same day. both tracks had very quick times. but why does excelebration and moonlight cloud get such high timeform ratings ? because the english were tired of black cavier getting all of the headlines. wise dan disposed of all of frankel's main competition in easy fashion. now the english will blame it on the travel. which is why frankel stayed at home. what a fraud.
Thomas More than 1 year ago
i agree that the timeform ratings are not as reliable as they were in the past - i've made some nice hits in the past using the timeform ratings - vale of york in the juvy for one and a longshot french horse ( whose name escapes me) in the turf mile 4 or 5 years ago - this year excelebration and moonlight cloud came no where close to running back to their time form ratings - neither did the fugue ..
Thomas More than 1 year ago
wow looked it up - horses name was domedriver and it was 10 years ago - time flies.
jttf More than 1 year ago
if you adjust the timeform ratings to the beyer ratings by 17 points. adjust each horse according to weight carried. the english horses' ratings were still inflated by 8 points on the average. the french horses' ratings seemed to work well with the 17 point adjustment. the 2 year old races were effected by not using lasix, also. the beyer numbers were lower and europe took both turf races for the first time.
Terry Marshall More than 1 year ago
Will any of the Classic runners win a graded stake next year? They will have to rely on beating one another with avoidance behavior in the morning scratches. There's some good allowance horses moving up next year. There has to be. Things can change. Maybe not. Maybe change into spare change. Sellin' oranges on the corner next year.. they so bad.. My old lady got better form....
worbleworble More than 1 year ago
Good work by Fort Larned. Would have preferred Mucho Macho Man (would've netted $800+ because of doubles and exotics), but the trifecta saved the weekend from being a disaster. However, the tri seemed light. ($150 for 50 cents?)
Grazyna Mianska More than 1 year ago
Just a note. Not sure how many times you had the tri but please remember at these major races there are people who would have had it 2 or 3 hundred times.
richard montgomery More than 1 year ago
How did SuperNinetyNine get cast in his stall? Wasnt there a night watchman around on the eve of the biggest day in racing ?!?!?
Terry Marshall More than 1 year ago
They always say that to scratch. Its a physical problem or a "too close to post" medication problem. We know its totally irrelevant and not what Baffert says it is, especially he's going to Disneyland....Goofy suits his character well.
jon g More than 1 year ago
Of course it was a med problem
B More than 1 year ago
I'm stunned by that Beyer. As someone pointed out elsewhere, how does it happen that Fort Larned ; who ran a 1 1/4 in 2:00 1/5 vs. a 1:57 4/5 track record got a Beyer 10 points higher than Wise Dan who broke the track record?
Max Mathew More than 1 year ago
You are comparing two different surfaces.
B More than 1 year ago
I realize that, but how does a track record performance get rated so much lower than one that is not remotely near a track record? What more can a horse do than win and win it in the fastest time ever recorded on the track? Are grass races considered to be inferior to dirt racing?
Lucy Ohannessian More than 1 year ago
The turf course was playing extremely fast. Little Mike nearly broke the course record....in truth, he probably DID break it, but he was timed in 1/100ths and the existing course record in 1/5ths. Mizdirection came in .26 off the course record. Given all the quality in the Mile, it was almost a foregone conclusion that the course record for that distance was going down when they loaded the field in the gate. Fast times on slow tracks yield a surprisingly high number, whereas fast times on lightning fast tracks, surprisingly low. The number you are looking at vs dirt is not suggesting a difference in quality, but how quick the turf was playing. The truer impressiveness in Wise Dan's victory was the mastery of his win.
Terry Marshall More than 1 year ago
What's the foundation for this Beyer number system? Never mind the foundation the horses are running on! What part of the thin air does Andrew pluck these magic numbers from? He sold somebody on how solid his system is and gets it established by the DRF as "foundational analyses" Total balderdash. Clocks are clocks and horses for courses. I knew I'll Have Another was for real when he won the Bob Lewis in 1:42 and change. He ran the fastest time at that distance than any of the others had. Who needs a Beyer number to tell you you're on to a good horse?
Greg Rouch More than 1 year ago
I would have the same impression, BUT then I consider how far in front of the others Fort Larned and Mucho Macho Man finished. They separated themselves from a good field of handicap horses, so they must have been running a superior race, albeit helped by the track.
WILL More than 1 year ago
James More than 1 year ago
The problem with your assessment is that Bill Mott does not own Royal Delta. He is the trainer and Mr. Leon, the owner, made the decision to run in Dubai and run her in the Ladies Classic.
jon g More than 1 year ago
Dubai was a mistake,but worth a shot.She lost twice to F&M so it's doubtful she'd beat the boys
DrSmoke120 More than 1 year ago
She wasn't gonna beat Fort Larned Saturday so he made the right call.
Kurt K More than 1 year ago
Tapizar, Shanghai Bobby, Trinniberg, Fort Larned...what do they all have in common? They all were within a length of the lead or had the lead at the 1/4 and 1/2 mile poles. Hightail, Beholder, Royal Delta the day before...what's that? you guessed it, all within a length or had the lead. Every dirt race...speed. Let me get this straight we bring the best horses in the world together and we put them on a California track that virtually eliminates any horse's chances that isn't within sniffing distance of the lead? This is our showcase? Then we complain that horses break down because they are bred for speed? Shame on the people that run horse racing- no wonder the industry isn't growing
Mark More than 1 year ago
All those horses were winners because they were best that day. How about groupie dollpoliticallycorrect and the marathon winner? All off the pace winners on the dirt. Fairtrack. Bad handicapping.
jon g More than 1 year ago
Stupid statement. All the jocks and trainers said it was a huge speed bias. I believe them over you.
Mark More than 1 year ago
Believe it if u need it. Ching a ling!
Murray Keays More than 1 year ago
HEAR! HEAR! That dirt track just ruined this year's BC for me. Most races were over by the 1/4 pole. What a travesty. Love the Cali weather - simply despise the SA dirt track. I thought I'd never say this, but I'd prefer for them to go back to synthetics. Where would Zenyatta have finished on Saturday?
Max Mathew More than 1 year ago
Please explain groupie doll, calidiscopio, High tail, Politically Correct on why they won coming from off the pace. Not to mention two horses who came second, He had enough and Rail Trip who both got seriously shuffled back to re-rally and come second.
Thomas More than 1 year ago
groupie doll won because she was much the best and overcame the bias calidiscopio won because the marathon is such a long race that speed doesn't matter high tail won because of the rail trip - there are 2 parts to the speed rail bias politically correct won because of suicidal speed dual 21 seconds flat for the 1st quarter of a seven furlong race rail trip got rail trip any other questions?
Mark More than 1 year ago
How much $ u lose is my? . Lol
Mark More than 1 year ago
They all have in common that they all won on or near the lead at a variety of different tracks around the country prior to winning thei bc race this weekend . what do groupie doll politicallycorrect marathon winner hightail all have in common ? they all won their races this weekend from off the pace . track was fair . sounds like a case of bad handicapping to me .
Nick Arden More than 1 year ago
The tracks was weak? You're weak.
Kurt K More than 1 year ago
Sorry folks, I won money, so much for the bad handicapping comment. Calidiscopio, won in a 1 1/2 mile race, sorry threw that one out of the conversation- the 7 other races not sufficient evidence or did you not watch the races? California handicapping- pick the three fastest out of the gate and throw the rest out. Like I said before, not where we should showcase our best horses. I appreciate that you defend your home track, nice scenery, especially that turf course that starts in the Alps, but lets put these horse on a neutral surface (Churchill, Belmont) and then we would have a better set of races AND would not be showing everyone that SPEED is the only way to breed.
Kurt K More than 1 year ago
Mark- "all those horses were winners because they were best that day"- seriously this is your argument? Yes, and all of the horses who came in 2nd were 2nd best. Read what I said again about being within a length of the lead, that would be pace-no? Max- I am not talking about horses who came in 2nd. Groupie Doll was within a half length at 1/4 pole and the 1/2.
Kurt K More than 1 year ago
and for that it's worth Dust and Diamonds was 2nd the whole way around the track as was Mucho MAcho Man
Thomas More than 1 year ago
track had severe speed rail bias much to my liking and i killed the sprint and classic because of it. do you people who the think the was fair really think trinniberg could win the sprint on a fair track - get real. what are you complaining about - a track bias is what all good handicappers are looking for - if you find one you load up. i really don't give a damn whose the best horse - i care about using my handicapping skills to make money.
jon g More than 1 year ago
I made money too,mostly bc of the marathon. But the bias took away alot the excitement and action
Brian Fitzpatrick More than 1 year ago
The argument makes no sense. Shanghai Bobby & Trinniberg both fit your criteria at several tracks throughout the year. They both won in the same fashion, counting Saturday, at 4 different tracks this year. Fort Larned did it at 5 different tracks. I guess that we should also toss in those tracks as being speed biased as well. Hell, let's just say that all tracks hold a speed bias for fast horses that run on or near the lead.
Kurt K More than 1 year ago
Okay folks let's do the math again....how many races were won on the lead or within a length at the 1/4 and half? Pointing out that Shanghai Bobby and Trinniberg and Fort Larned beat horses in similar fashion elsewhere strengthens my argument- horses near or on the lead won 7 of 8 races on the dirt. Did you people watch these races? By the way races run on Breeders' Cup day weren't subject to a speed bias-that's how California racing is-seldom is there anyone closing, hence my original comments- that the Breeders' Cup should be run on a more neutral surface, and that by having the BC at a speed favoring site adds to the concept that horses should only be bred for Speed.
Mike Caiazzo More than 1 year ago
Mizdirection came from the back to win ... I know its only one horse but it should be mentioned.