02/22/2012 10:45AM

Beyer: Tampa Bay Downs decline sudden as its ascension

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At a time when much of the horse racing industry has been in decline, Tampa Bay Downs has been the sport’s shining success story. The Oldsmar, Fla., track attracted the attention of bettors from coast to coast by offering large, competitive fields with the potential for big payoffs, and its 2010-2011 winter season produced record results. Long regarded as a minor-league operation, Tampa averaged a stunning $4.57 million per day in wagers.

I have been a Tampa loyalist for years, and I was one of many horseplayers who eagerly anticipated the winter season that began in December. And I am one of many who have been disappointed and disillusioned about the decline of the track’s product. The fields aren’t as big. The races aren’t as competitive. The betting isn’t as interesting. Customers have responded accordingly. General manager Peter Berube said that wagering has dropped by about $500,000 a day – an abrupt reversal after years of growth.

The decline is by no means a mysterious phenomenon. Two crucial issues are involved. One is a factor that every handicapper confronts virtually every day. Another is a more corrosive problem that is going to affect most of the U.S. racing industry.

Anyone who bets Tampa is keenly aware of Jamie Ness, who has dominated Tampa as few trainers have ever dominated a lengthy race meet, winning with 45 of the 98 horses he has saddled — an astonishing 46 percent. Ness trains a big, far-flung, professionally run stable, a distinct contrast with many of the shoestring operations against which he competes. Even the weakest of Ness’s runners go off at low odds, and handicappers ought to relish the prospect of playing against horses who are overbet, but we have all learned this lesson: Don’t. Ness wins regularly when logic suggests he shouldn’t – with horses like Escort.

Trainer Tom Proctor, a nationally respected horseman, gave up on the once-classy Escort and dropped him into a $10,000 claiming race, which he lost by seven lengths. His career as an effective racehorse appeared to be finished, but Ness nevertheless claimed him and entered him three weeks later. Escort was made the odds-on favorite solely because of his new trainer’s mystique, but betting against the mystique wouldn’t have been a smart idea. Escort promptly won by 15 lengths. If Ness can improve so dramatically upon a trainer of Proctor’s stature, he can do anything. Accordingly, gamblers don’t want to bet against him and may prefer to avoid races where he is a presence. Rival trainers don’t want to run against him. Ness’s last three winners paid $2.60, $5.40, and $3.20 – all in fields of six. So much for the big fields and big payoffs that have made Tampa popular.

Yet if the Ness factor is frustrating, it will not necessarily be everlasting. Nobody wins at a 46 percent clip forever. But Tampa is also a victim of a problem that faces every track and can only get worse: the shortage of Thoroughbred racehorses in the United States.
When the financial crisis struck America in 2008, the racing industry was hard-hit immediately. Gamblers bet less money. Tracks’ business dropped sharply. Owners bought fewer horses. Breeders suffered, bred fewer mares, and in some cases went out of business.

Before the crisis, the production of U.S. Thoroughbreds had been fairly constant, averaging 34,800 foals per year. The number dropped in 2008 and 2009 to about 32,000, a decline now affecting the sport because those thousands of unborn horses would be 3- and 4-year racehorses this year. The real crisis, however, is yet to come: In 2011 the size of the U.S. foal crop plummeted to an estimated 24,900.

However, in Ocala, Fla. the heart of the state’s breeding industry, the real crisis has already arrived. The number of foals born in Florida dropped sharply in 2008 and has continued to fall. “We’ve had a total collapse of the Ocala market,” Berube said. “Farms are closed or are in foreclosure. It’s a mess up there.”

Roy Lerman, a breeder and a longtime Tampa Bay supporter, said: “When the depression hit, the small breeder could no longer sell that ‘backyard horse’ for a decent price. They were producing the $10,000 to $25,000 horses that would be the backbone of Tampa Bay. Now the small breeders have disappeared.”

Berube said that 30 percent of the runners at Tampa used to come from farms and training centers in Ocala. That number has dropped by half. “We knew this was a ticking time bomb,” the general manager said, “but I thought we’d have a few more years before it impacted us. This year is the first time we’ve had difficulty getting race cards filled.”

Racetracks need to offer attractive purse money to compete for a dwindling supply of horses. Tampa’s purses, however, are meager — particularly for its bread-and-butter claiming races. (They are lower, for example, than those at Laurel Park, even though the size of Tampa’s betting business dwarfs Laurel’s.) Good stables that have been Tampa fixtures are running at least some of their horses elsewhere this winter – mostly at tracks, such as Gulfstream Park, that offer purses augmented by slot-machine money.

One possible course of action for Tampa would be to cut back its schedule in an effort to bolster the size of its fields. But there aren’t going to be any easy remedies for the diminished quality of competition, because the small Thoroughbred  crops of 2010 and 2011 are certain to impact the sport. Most tracks in the country will also be grappling for answers to the problems that Tampa has begun to face this winter.

- The Washington Post

Dave Bukovac 20 days ago
Jamie Ness is one reason bettors are are not betting races his barn has an entry in. Gerald Bennett is another what seems like a very good handicapping race becomes a pass for me and my modest wager. How do trainers work such magic? I have felt that Ness and Bennet are actually bad for racing at Tampa unfortunately they win to many races. Some of you that read this will remember Oscar Barrera Aqueduct winter inner track trainer. Who would claim some of the cheapest horses on the grounds. Oscar didn't have to train the horses for a few weeks like Ness after a claim. He would run the horse back in two or three days in allowance company and win year after year. Disappearing or at least having little or no success when the racing switched to the main track than Belmont and Saratoga. How do these trainers make these horses into superior race horse in a matter of days or a few weeks. daveb
Kenny 7 months ago
Look at AQU race saturday won by Beau de Beaupre, trainer Rudy Rodriguez, 30-1 same class on Jan 4 for Dan Conway (no slouch) the horse is trounced, transfer to RR, one garbage work on 2/4, then wires the field at 9-1 2/25. Stewards at least should be asking questions and publicly remark on such improvement. Its instances like this that make a mockery of the game and make it hard to attract new people to the sport. Its these sudden improvements from the same barns that defy explanation and make other good trainers seem like idiots by comparison, that have ruined the game.
goforgin01 7 months ago
Conspiracy theories in this game are a joke. There are organizations like TRPB that monitor/investigate/police the game. Let them do their jobs, while you as a handicapper do yours. Ness is out of the money 25% of the time. If you find those opportunities...particularly where he's 5th or worse...your exotics payouts will reflect it.
Kenny 7 months ago
It's not a conspiracy theory, just plain logical thinking. The handicappers ARE doing their job....they are running for the hills to bet something other than Tampa Bay races!!!!!!
goforgin01 7 months ago
Corruption and graft are everywhere in society. The horse racing game is not immune. But if you're going to point at every aberrant performance and cry wolf, I'm going to say there are a myriad of legitimate reasons for form reversal in either direction, and any one of them (or more than one) is a more likely explanation than cocktails and dreams.
Anonymous 7 months ago
There are Jamie Ness's at second and third tier tracks all over the country that dominate the particular venue they race at and believe me, that's where TBD needs to be catagorized. Don't blame Ness It really doesn't matter who blew the TVG deal because the greedy owner wouldn't do anything to help the horsemen anyway. Their cardroom makes the track money but have the horsemen seen any of it? When was the last time they put any money into the backside? The mainstay of the racing community lives in what could be discribed as a cesspool. By the way, has anybody noticed the alarming rise in catistrophic breakdowns this season?
Mark Kane 7 months ago
I know this take three of the top trainers and add Jamie Ness. Now have them claim 10000 dollar horses and see who comes out on top. Jamie puts his horses in the spots where they can win. Jamie been winning that way for years he has a eye for claiming and thats where he makes his money. Do not hate him because you cant beat him.
John S 7 months ago
While I agree with the comments below, my biggest issue is the ridiculous bias for inside speed this year. It's like harness racing - whoever gets the best trip wins - not the best horse.
Hunter Delaney 7 months ago
Escort....trained By Todd Pletcher until May 2011 disappointing 6th in Chick Lang Stakes....picked up by Proctor, claimed by Ness for $10,000.00, and raced back for $8,000.00, while winning. Sheer genius......
Del Donaker 7 months ago
I don't see why the industry thinks bigger fields and ten races a day is the answer. I like Golden Gate on thursday and friday when they run 8 races. I don't like chaos and I don't have time to handicap 10 races. And there are still plenty of long shots and big payouts with small fields. Also, I like turf and synthetic. On dirt you get winners that look like Secretariat on one race and then come in last the next. Dirt is the wildest surface there is. I've been trying Santa Anita and it's just nuts in my opinion.
Anonymous 7 months ago
Wasn't there someplace that you could go to look up each trainer's medical violations? I can't seem to find it.... any suggestions anyone?
Laura Buenaventura 7 months ago
All of what is written is correct but a few other items need to be adressed. First, Tampa after years of growth has given very little back to horseman-purses have not gone up in years.Mdn SpWt is still 17,000 ridiculous in this era,especially with their increase over the last6-7 years.Secondly TVG did a great job promoting Tampa but they decided to go the better route for their bottomline and use HRTV which has to many tracks on at once therefore eliminating tampa midway thru the card.Less to horseman and less to the bettors equals weaker product.A major fact racing continues to ignore!!!
Tony 7 months ago
The bottom line is he has been using ITPP most likely. It is hard to get but has the effect of like a super milkshake. Just watch his horses rebrake during races. Everyone at Tampa Bay Downs has a short memory. About 3 years ago security at Tampa Bay Downs got a tip of something illegal in the Ness Barn so they raided his barn and found a syringe. As a result the posted a security guard around the clock in his barn. Guess what? He went O for 20 and then won the last race of the meet..a cheap $5000 Claining Race. 1 for 21...sure a far cry from 46%. Berube does not want to stop him! He credits him for helping the handle..at least he has up until now. Ness is stealing from the other trainers. He has ruined the game here at Tampa.
Bob Adams 7 months ago
I too agree 100% with Andy in his assesment of the rise and fall of Tampa Bay Downs. DRF with maximum exposure in the sport maybe Andy's column will wake a few people up. I have long given up betting Tampa, because as Andy referred to the training feats of Mr. Jamie Ness and their were others before him but at Tampa nothing ever gets done, what goes on there is a joke. But I have to wonder seeing who Mr.Ness's owner is will anyone have the balls to take them to task, I doubt it.
ad 7 months ago
i agree with andy 100 percent, i bet just tampa in the winter only because of the big fields and the potential score.a trainer like ness ruins the betting at tampa and also the integrity of racing at tb.he not that good of a trainer to increase the potential of a horse by 15, from a claim off of proctor...this scenario takes place every week at tampa.3 yrs ago i emailed the tb stewards about this ness problem and to their credit they responded to me ,but their answer that they were doing all the could to keep the integrity of racing at tb., left a lot to be desired...these super trainers(ness,dutrow,juan carlos etc)all have a past of violations.there is only so much that can be done to improve a horses performance in a short period of time,like blinkers,or a jock change etc.....but not a 15 length change from a guy like proctor.next winter i will not bet tampa....there are many alternatives .......tampa bay, please get your act together, before your track turns back to an alligator farm.
Anonymous 7 months ago
Please tell me about Jamie Ness's violations. To my knowledge there arn't any to be found. Tom Proctor is a very good trainer............with good horses. His program is not set up to deal with low level claimers and, by the way, Escort was claimed for $10,000. and Jamie ran him back for $8000. Ever think the class drop might of helped? Ness is not the problem at Tampa. Take a good look at the decaying infrastructure of the facility. The place is turning into a dump and ownership and management are too cheap to do anything about it. Mrs. Thayer calls Tampa Bay Downs the "Saratoga of the South".............PLEASE!
Anonymous 7 months ago
I retract my statement about Jamie's medication violations. An October 2010 report published by the New York Times shows Ness with a medical violation per 217 starts. The highest rate of the top twenty trainers in earnings for that year.
Wayne Haehner 7 months ago
TVG not covering Tampa this year is the main reason the handle went down
Anne Mayea 7 months ago
I saw today that Oaklawn Park is having a great meet and increasing purses. TVG is covering Oaklawn this winter instead of Tampa Bay - coincidence? Maybe - maybe not. I do know that I would rather watch races on TV than my computer - and tend to bet only the races that I can watch either live or on TV and I get TVG....
Jeffrey Browning 8 months ago
There are no easy anwsers or quick fixes. I relocated from the Chicago area to Orlando in 2005. It takes me an hour twenty minutes to reach Tampa Bay Downs. It takes me three hour and fifth-teen minutes to reach Gulfstream. Although I perfer to wager/attend the races at Gulfstream (because they have a better product), I would regularly go to Tampa, but not this year. I stop because I do not like the small purses so I only attended a couple of days this season. I firmly believe that larger purses attract the best outfits, owner/trainers, which in turn attract better jockeys. Even when Tampa had higher handle pools, the purses were not what I felt they should be. To me lower purses mean more room for scandal. Jockey and trainers have financial obligation that they must meet, and it is tough for them to meet those obligations even if they win at a 10% clip if the purses are small. It seems to me that Tampa should conduct racing three days a week, have at least three races with $30,000 purses each day, and conduct racing from Nov 15th through April 15th, but then again, what do I know. I already said that there are no easy/quick fixes. And by the way, Tampa should open an off track betting location near the Orlando Airport. That way they can get money as the out of towners, come and go.
Jen 8 months ago
too many cheats and thieves --never any punishments. attempted robbery, fraud,illegal drugging etc .. should carry jail sentences. but not in racing..how do honest owners put up with it, never mind the poor saps betting on them?
Anonymous 8 months ago
The honest owners are getting out. After years of trying to convince myself that things would change, I've finally come to the conclusion that they are not and will not. The cheaters just keep getting away with it and you can't compete on an uneven playing field. And while everyone thinks that the small time owners don't matter, eventually, when we have all quit because of the rampant cheating, the field sizes will even be smaller.
robert 8 months ago
'The Losing End" I hadn’t noticed the gambling ‘tell’ until viewing the video replay: her odds were cut from 10-1 to 7-1 on the last odds click which occurs during the running of the race. The ‘tell’ appears on the tote board too late for a gambling patron to get down. A gambling patron is often caught ‘barefoot’ because three key handicapping factors in modern racing are not available to him In the program or racing form: on or off drugs, how close to post the injection and the betting money that follows.
DrWatcher 8 months ago
Go back on TVG ! Arrogant Tampa!
goforgin01 8 months ago
No track can sustain the kind of growth Tampa Bay Downs has had forever. Market conditions & external factors overall led to this correction in 2011-12, and some of that is properly covered here. This year is the tree. The forest is looking at Tampa over the last 15 years...or even 5-10. In an industry that's essentially been in the toilet, this track is a tremendous success story even including this year...particularly when you factor in no slots. The big misses here is the unseasonable weather up north, which will eliminate 20-30 closings that also typically helps Tampa's handle big time, and Gulfstream's earlier start, which obviously added serious competition on more race days. I love reading Beyer & Beyer as a handicapper...but as a journalist, needs some work. If you're going to talk about foals, fields & Ness & say/infer "this is why Tampa is down $500,000K a day," you haven't done enough to find the root of the problem. Pushing 70 in Baltimore today.
goforgin01 7 months ago
I agree revisiting this that losing TVG is also big factor. Any track losing significant HRTV or TVG support/exposure is going to take a hit.
DavidM9999 8 months ago
As a contrarian I like to play against "super" trainers like Ness. Some you can beat but others, Ness included, are almost impossible to play against.. The list is long for these types and most tracks have one or two that fits the bill; Chambers at TUP, Maker at TP, Amoss or Fascheaux at FG and so on. I play against them more liberally in turf races as I 'feel" their "turnaround" program works best with dirt and sprint types. Even on grass it is hard to overcome Ness. Lately I just avoid Tampa as there are other options. If he is in the Pick 3 or 4 sequence I think long and hard about putting $50-$100 into it knowing if he wins a leg you get peanuts and if you leave him you have about a 50% chance of failure. Another contributing factor at play may be the fact that TVG dropped them or vice versa. I know TVG has been everyone's whipping boy for years but I tend to play the tracks they show a bit more. I pick my own horses but having Simon or Matt handicap the races for comparative purposes adds to the experience . No answers from my simple mind in this corner but I concur with Mr. Beyer.
pba1817 8 months ago
The fix is pretty easy, take a look at the entries for this Friday 2/24/2012. There are 18 tracks with races scheduled. WAY too many for today's racing environment. Condense the tracks, increase the field sizes, and increase the purses, give the owners incentives to start their horses in these larger fields. The big fish small pond mentality has KILLED the betting part of the game.
Richard Catalano 8 months ago
24,000 NEW FOALS ARE HEARTBREAKING, MY 40 YEARS OF PLAYING TH EHORSES I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS! WHERE IS THIS ALL HEADED?ARE THERE ANY ANSWERS? VERY VERY SAD
Steve Reed 8 months ago
TRUE ENOUGH ABOUT YOUR COMMENTS BUT LET US NOT FORGET GULFSTREAM OPENED EARLY DECEMBER WHICH IS A FIRST TIME EVER. THAT IN CONCERT WITH YOUR FACTS = THE NET EFFECT. BY & LARGE TAMPA IS STILL A BETTER PROP THAN MOST. WELCOME BACK RICHARD GRUNDER AND THANKS FOR 28 YEARS OF GREAT RACE CALLS. MANY MORE TO COME MY FRIEND.
Jim 8 months ago
Jockeys look like they rig the races. Trainers using some kind of meds that tests can't detect. so those 2 things is why horse racing is a dying game.
John 8 months ago
I just got back from Tampa. I spent an entire week there. After living in Southern California for years, I can honestly say that while Tampa has had a drop off in available horses, at least they are not running 8 races a day with 5-6 horses per race like So Cal!!! Yes, Jamie Ness is hotter than usual, but there is still value when playing Trifectas, Pick 3's and 4's, and if he wins 49%, he loses 51%!!! And if the Ness horses are overbet, the 51% that win are under bet. I hit a 5-1 morning line that went off at 12-1 horse with a top 5 trainer and jockey, and the Ness horse was 3-5 finished 3rd!!! Look, all horse racing is bad right now, but on a scale of 1-10 where 10 is the best....Tampa is still a strong 7, where the majority of tracks are a 4-5!!!!
william a 8 months ago
It's funny because a Tampa resident, all I want to do is go to Santa Anita. I guess we both have 2 good problems
David Craighead 7 months ago
Yeah, your right on your theory but not everyone see's and play nor understands the game like we both do! . Problem with the new generational of players is that they look for easy way of winning but have not true knowledge and analyical skill about the true nature of the game nor understand horses! .
Mike 8 months ago
Andy Thanks for writing this column. Tampa is one of my favorites too. My friends have often discussed the Ness issue this year. If he claims a horse, you bet against him at your own peril (47% winners). Why do these horses run so well after his claims??? Is he a genius, or is there another, darker reason which most long time players suspect? Regarding a similar situation-at Arlington we had one owner claiming horses and running them back at half that price, causing a slew of 2-5 shots and 5-6 horse fields. When he left, the fields increased in size and the handle rose also.
Brent Wells 8 months ago
Sounds like this guy Ness and Tampa is facing what we have had in the Bay Area for many, many years with Hollendorfer, Baze and Golden Gate Fields. GGF reduced the number of racing dates in the week and they are still having a very hard time attracting large fields. I think the cost of living is just too expensive and the purses are too low to attract horsemen. The racing is boring, not challenging and has been dominated by Baze/Hollendorfer for years..
Joe Rotell 8 months ago
another major problem is that younger crowd (18-35) don't bet on horses, you know why? because no one has ever taken them to the race track. think about it, if your a horse player, i bet 90% of the people reading this got to the race track their first time by someone taking them, uncle, aunt, father, grandfather, etc.., if i'm right give me a thumbs up. people who never been to the racetrack don't wake up one morning and say "i think i'll go to the horse races" THEY NEED AN ESCORT. tampa, you need lights, friday night racing, maybe a band to lure them to the track. if you and the rest of the race tracks in this country don't target the younger crowd your going to be broke in the very near future.
Fred Reardon 8 months ago
Thanks Andy, I have enjoyed your writings for years and this analysis is spot on. Tampa Bay Downs, I believe, was once Florida Downs and just a dusty little backwater track. They got BIG through a new acquisition and simulcast effusion, but now they may have gotten too big for their britches. If I were CZAR, and I am most definitely not, I would cut back a day, boost the purses, and hope I don't go the way of the Dodo and Narragansett Park. But, maybe, that's just me. Thanks, again!
mannydmd 8 months ago
Yes, you are right in your comments and without any doubts all the things you mention are causing the problem but there is one you forgot or you don't see it as a contributing to the problem, I read all the comments and it is not mention as well, here it goes, races under 6 furlongs dirt and I mile turf are impossible to handicap and I, for one, immediately look for another truck, one single race makes me move on, perhaps not at a big truck but it does at the small ones, Sr. Racing Secretary don't even try to feel the races using shorter distances, IT DOES NOT WORK. Sooner than we think it shall be only 5-6 trucks in the USA.
Rick Marciniak 8 months ago
Seems like the answers to creating large purses is slots/table games. I live 20 minutes from Penn National and purses have thrived for the few years the casino has opened. However, purses from casinos have been dropping slowly every year because the state needs sources of revenue. The states are going broke and is looking for anything that can supply the state money. Slots are a short term fix for racetracks, but if state government is constantly allowed to take money from the horse purses every year when they "try to" balance their budgets then horse racing will be back to where they were prior to slots. And horse racing will be doomed.
John Stevelberg 8 months ago
Andrew has it "partially" right....add in the National Decline in Handle....the TVG debacle...not that TVG does that good a job since they also don't have Gulfstream, Fair Grounds and Santa Anita. Also strange that you can't do much with Ness at Tampa Bay, but you can show a nice profit at Oaklawn...go figure.
John 8 months ago
John, well said!! Ness gets good prices at Oaklawn because he's up against Larry Jones, DW Lukas, etc. I play TBD ALOT, and Ness is always good for 35%....49% is just a fluke! It could be worse, Daniel Centeno could still ride at TBD. Hell, 2 yrs ago, Centeno, Homiester and Ronnie Allen combined for 65% of ALL the winners the ENTIRE season!!! Try to get value outta that....LOL
TravisStone 8 months ago
I think one thing Tampa should think about doing is allowing more than ten horses per race when on the turf in non-stakes. For one, a ten horse field on the turf at Tampa is tricky because there are typically one or two really big priced longshots (who are tosses most of the time) and it yields the equivalent of an eight horse field, which is far less appealing than say a field of 12 with two tosses but 10 legitimate contenders. That said, Tampa Bay Downs has been a bright spot in American racing over the past few years and the challenges they face are an example of challenges racetracks are facing around the country. I can say first hand how diminished foal crops along with required minimum race dates are a significant challenge facing all four tracks in Louisiana (and beyond) in the coming years especially if there aren't enough owners to support the sport as is!
Randall 8 months ago
Survival of the fittest racetracks is the now and the future of horse racing. Reality needs to set in once and for all that the Sport of Kings is dying. The future is a group of 12 to 15 racetrack "hubs" that will handle the totality of all thoroughbred racing. Google Sha Tin Racecourse and see what racing looks like when handled fiscally well.
summert 8 months ago
Horseplayers like to have options. When horseplayers handicap an entire card of racing, they want the OPPORTUNITY to wager on every race, or at least, have some shot to be able to find opportunity in every race. With Jamie Ness on the grounds, he turns 9 and 10 race cards into 5 and 6 race cards because any smart horseplayer will just skip the races Ness is in and not 'deal' with him. When a track goes from horse racing to 'trainer racing', it can't possibly be a good thing for the serious horseplayer.
Anonymous 8 months ago
fewer horses will inevitably beget either fewer races or shorter fields and most likely both. the shrinking horse population may very well drive up the value of horses. this ultimately will make it even more difficult to attract new owners into this business. When a business is not growing it is dying. Slots are just a band aid. do you think that you can trust any politician to keep their greedy hands off of the billions being generated and propping up horse racing? take a look at those 7500 claimers in NY running for 30k. before long NY will raise the bottom to 10k. Same horses--Increased artificial value
BombsawayBob 8 months ago
Agree with poster Tom C., Don't underestimate the loss of TV Coverage on TVG. I'd Venture to say that 40% of people wagering on races while watching TVG are betting thru other ADW servicesso you can't count the TVG loss in handle solely when considering TAMPA handle decline. Out of sight, out of mind.
David Craighead 8 months ago
This problem has been coming for quite sometime and the effects is nothing new with the dwindling fields of runners and the slot-machine fix, for now. The racing industry from the business stand point is weeding out and adjusting to the conditions of the market place just as in all rims of the business sector in the world and this country as well. you don't have to be a genies to understand the adverse effects of business. However, I do welcome the decline in the thoroughbred population due to the quality of horses being trained and raced and most of those type of animals don't never make it to the races anyway and the effects of that process creates overstock of horses that if, some pedigree exist the switch is to look at the animal in terms of sales market which if, the buyer is a first time buyer ultimately purchases animals of inferior quality. This creates situations repeat and as a result over stock of horses who can't compete at the major racetracks and due to changes in the business market for more quality stock the business aspects of racing feels the effects. farms stop producing and close, sales and racing products decline and for most owners, breeders, trainers and race track owners it isn't cost effect to continue doing business this way...so, I hope you get the point about how things runs downhill! . I've been in this business for sometime and have seen alot of this stuff coming for some years ago. and incidentally, the slot - machine thing ain't gonna last long either for it's a temporary band ad for short time. The true is, nothing lasts forever !
Stewart Wolinsky 8 months ago
I think there are too many racetracks operating, Andy. I think fields would increase and there would be much more competitive races with less tracks.. Laurel and Tampa Bay Downs compete most days against Aqueduct and Gulfstream plus other tracks. What's the need for all those tracks operating at the same time? I think a system could be devised where we could have good competitive racing with large fields if less tracks competed against each other. Why not three tracks operating at the same time all day from 12:00 PM EST until 12:00 AM PST. Less horses would be needed for less races, but their value would increase.. Who needs 5-6 racetracks competing at the same time for a population that might not be able to afford that.
Tom Crone 8 months ago
Another issue may be that the last couple of years they have been one of the few winter tracks on TVG and hence getting tons of exposure. This abruptly ended this year, their reasoning was a contract dispute, probably a money issue between the track and TVG. Tampa probably thought they didn't need TVG but some of their success was probably attributed to them showcasing them all winter. It will be interesting to see what the handle is this year at Oaklawn now that they are being shown on TVG.
Eric Solomon 8 months ago
I absolutely agree Tom. HRTV covers Tampa, but it's sporadic at best, and rarely does a full card get shown, and if it does, it's almost always tape delayed, and given little focus on the broadcast. The past few years, I had a much better feel for the races at Tampa from the TVG coverage. As for Ness, I completely agree that his presence makes more me less likely to bet a race he has a horse in. Last month I caught a Pic-4 with three short priced Ness horses (2 of whom I thought I could beat) and a 25-1 shot in a wide open 12 horse field. I was bummed to only get 50 back on the 50 cent wager - thought I'd get a little more. Doesn't make me want to run back to the windows quickly!
harvey savitsky 8 months ago
Please use FEWER!!!
David Craighead 7 months ago
Hey, Mr. Wolinsky it's called a thing of Creed and the business owner - rich folks won' t understand that concept due to the selfish motives they have..pure and simple!.