08/27/2013 5:14PM

Beyer Figure for Pacific Classic revised


The Beyer Speed Figure for Game on Dude’s runaway victory in the Pacific Classic has been revised upward to 113.

Game on Dude’s published time for the 1 1/4-mile event was 2:00.69, a slow performance which, if taken at face value, would have produced an implausibly low speed figure for the fastest horse in America this season.  The Trakus timing system at Del Mar cast doubt on the “official” time by recording a final time of 1:59.26.

Randy Moss, a member of the Beyer Speed Figure team and the creator of the Moss Pace Figures did a frame-by-frame analysis comparing Sunday’s Pacific Classic with the 2012 race.  He concluded that Game on Dude ran 0.20 seconds slower than Dullahan did last year, making his final time 1:59.74 seconds.  That time is the basis for Game on Dude’s figure of 113.

BlindLuckk More than 1 year ago
Walter More than 1 year ago
At this point who cares! If you bet on Dude, you cashed and moved on to the next race, or next day. This should be a complete non story by now.
John Howland More than 1 year ago
Kat Herine More than 1 year ago
This is great-- I was wondering how this would be decided, so I appreciate the details.
rahman Williams More than 1 year ago
People talk a lot about track conditions. Track is fast, track is slow, but tell me this dreaming of Julia and Orb ran on sameday same distance dreaming of Julia ran 1:48 and Orb ran 1:50. I guess win orb came up track was Slow.LOL. Orb wins derby, dreaming of Julia never won again. Some horses just freak she freaked that day and all record holders freak that day and all are usually horse with lot of ability. When a horse running in maiden claiming 3andup start breaking track records then come talk to me about track conditions.
JDS0810 More than 1 year ago
And Game on Dude freaks every time he runs....
rahman Williams More than 1 year ago
He sure does. Only bad races is win jockeys did not get him close to the lead. Win dude is in front he has never failed. Two close seconds. Dullahan needed a record performance to beat him. Drosselmeyer just stole the breeders cup from him way on the outside.
Ian King More than 1 year ago
I'll congratulate Randy Moss for his expert analysis but any one who follow me on twitter (@Volponisingle) will realised i said previously that Game On Dude repeated his 2012 performance when 2nd to Dullahan! I also stated the fig the same as Royal Delta was wrong 'cause it would had us thinking Authenticity would have been 2nd in Pacific Classic by four lengths, doubt it! It also made the Travers the stronger race which seem further from the truth!
Horse Cents More than 1 year ago
Agree. Royal Delta's number should have absolutely been higher than the number given in the Travers which was way too high. Races run one day apart and track running identical.
AndrewD More than 1 year ago
It's time for racing to use the first down line that football uses in it's television broadcasts. Just put that line at the start wire and put it at the finish. Timing with video won't need overlays or any other trick. When retiming a race, just start the time when the first horse trips the wire and stop it when the winner crosses the finish line.
Vince Lentini More than 1 year ago
isn't that how races ARE timed
AndrewD More than 1 year ago
No Vince, you do not see the wire extending across the track on video. Someone must judge where that wire is.
Horse Cents More than 1 year ago
No one, well someone trying to hand time doesn't know exactly where that wire is but the clockers and officials know exactly where it is. The first horse to hit the beam trips it and the clock starts, first horse to the finsh trips that and it ends. Simple. Won't disagree that for tv purposes, a "first down" type line for start and finish isn't a bad idea but not for clocking time. Trip a beam and get immediate timing results.
Dan More than 1 year ago
The only way to go anymore is with Bris if you don't have a ton of funds... and if you really want to make a nice score and don't mind spending some cash to look at figures the Thorograph is the ultimate way to handicap. But I will be totally honest if you attend the races enough you don't need any type of figure to win at the races. All the numbers are is a small tool to try and see the outcome of a race. Keeping up with a certain meet is the only way to make money at the track consistently. Knowing bias of track on a daily basis along with trip handicapping is one of the most successful ways to make money day in and day out at the racetrack, the problem is anymore its to hard to resist all the OTHER action from around the country where a gambler can truly just focus on one track, it takes time and discipline to be a true horse player.
John Howland More than 1 year ago
Very well said.
Walter More than 1 year ago
Very true Dan
Guy John More than 1 year ago
Didn't they revise GOD's final time and Beyer after the CT Classic. I believe so. It must be Baffert pushing this then. GOD will have a hard time in the BC with the East Coast front runners.
Vince Lentini More than 1 year ago
I agree , I think Cross Traffic puts him to the test
JDS0810 More than 1 year ago
Baffert pushes them to revise times??? Are you serious? He has a 150 horse stable to run, clients to call 24/7, media to handle, he employs countless people everywhere, do you seriously think he has time to push clockers to revise a horse's time, let alone care about something so ludicous? He is a trainer, clockers are clockers. There is no possible way he did that. On top of that, don't make this an east v west thing. Game on Dude is awesome but he may be the second best horse in the Baffert barn. See Paynter on Saturday in the Woodward.
Randy Baker More than 1 year ago
Yes he. Has plenty of time.he delegates to his subordinates than politics for his big pocket owners,hello wake up and smell the coffee!
richard cowles More than 1 year ago
Give it a couple days...it may head upward again.Hard to find things credible or with substance these days
Horse Cents More than 1 year ago
how right you are richard, Del Mar officials are looking into it.
Two400 More than 1 year ago
To be honest, I haven't bought the DRF PPs in months because of how inconsistent the speed figures are. What is it? A performance figure or a final time speed figure? We may get to know when they adjust it for the big races, but what about all the little races where they never tell us what kind of figure we're getting? That's why I switched to a different company for PPs.