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Weekend recap, HG pp's
Rafael Bejarano may have mistaken his Hollywood Gold Cup mount's name as Four-Wide Trip instead of Rail Trip.
The questionable tactics utilized by one of the nation's top riders led to Rail Trip's odds-on defeat at the hooves of the hard-knocking Awesome Gem.
It was certainly a rider's race as, after expected pace presence Tres Borrachos got away slowly, Rail Trip and Bejarano tracked a glacial pace set by Compari while well out into the Hollywood strip.
Rail Trip tracked fractions of 25.82, 50.95, and 1:15.12 before uncorking an outside move to take command from Compari in upper stretch. For a moment, Rail Trip looked on his way to another graded score but Awesome Gem, saving every inch of ground under David Flores, rallied up the inside to outfinish the 2-5 betting favorite.
It was not a good ride from Bejarano and Rail Trip lost nothing in defeat. Second-choice Richard's Kid, closer to the pace than usual, finished evenly for third. He can be expected to improve for his next start, likely the Grade 1 Pacific Classic at Del Mar.
The three-year-old division lost Belmont Stakes winner Drosselmeyer due to injury, but gained a potential star in Trappe Shot, the impressive winner of Saturday's Long Branch Stakes at Monmouth.
Trappe Shot has now won four straight and he showed that two turns wasn't a problem in the Long Branch. Ridden by Alan Garcia, he prompted the pace while down along the rail, shot on through to avoid a shuffle with three furlongs remaining, and turned back the battle-tested Nacho Friend in upper stretch while only under a moderate hand ride.
Trappe Shot looks primed for a shot in the Grade 1 Haskell Invitational, where he'll doubtlessly face his toughest challenge to date.
Gio Ponti got back into the winner's circle with a popular score in the Grade 1 Man o'War at Belmont. It wasn't pretty, however, as Gio Ponti broke slowly and was reserved off a tepid pace set by longshot Mission Approved. Ramon Dominguez kept Gio Ponti covered up until midstretch before setting sail for Mission Approved and the favored duo won by a measured margin. While Gio Ponti did show grit in overcoming an unflattering pace scenario, he didn't look as impressive as he did during his double-championship season of 2009. Still, he looks best of a weak turf group in North America.
When you answered TheVanGogh's question about stakes winning horses in sub-90 BSFs, I was surprised to not see Interpatation(sic)'s win last year at BEL that snapped Gio Ponti's 5 Grade I winning streak. The heavens opened just before the race and dumped 1 or 2 inches of rain on the course in about 10 minutes, and the race wound up going and scoring a spectacular, eye-opening 74 variant. So I guess I'm surprised Interpatation(sic) got a 90+ BSF on that rain-logged course.
TheVanGogh wanted to know about sub-90 Beyers in graded races for older horses on dirt. There have been plenty of instances of sub-90 Beyers in graded races for females, races restricted to three-year-olds, and races on turf and synthetic surfaces. Interpatation, however, did receive a 102 Beyer for his Joe Hirsch Turf Classic victory over Gio Ponti.
Please provide the past performances of Genuine Risk and Bold N Determined, two of the great female equine athletes who graced the track during the late 1970s and early 1980s.
Here they are:
Dan..are you able to query your database with the following parameters....After winning the Kentucky Derby, how does a horse do his first time back racing at Chuirchill Downs? I read somewhere that they have won once in 17 occurrences since 1970....Tom
south florida tom
I don't know how to query that statistic so I'll do it by hand.
2009: Mine That Bird - 8th, Grade 2 Firecracker Handicap - 1 mile on turf
2005: Giacomo - 4th, Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Classic - 1 1/4 miles
2000: Fusaichi Pegasus - 6th, Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Classic - 1 1/4 miles
1997: Silver Charm - 2nd - Grade 2 Stephen Foster Handicap - 1 1/8 miles
1994: Go for Gin - 8th - Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Classic - 1 1/4 miles
1991: Strike the Gold - 5th - Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Classic - 1 1/4 miles
1990: Unbridled - 3rd - Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Classic - 1 1/4 miles
1988: Winning Colors - 2nd - Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Distaff - 1 1/8 miles
1987: ALYSHEBA - 1ST - GRADE 1 BREEDERS' CUP CLASSIC - 1 1/4 MILES
1970: Dust Commander - 3rd - Clark Handicap - 1 1/8 miles
This question is to all but maybe Dan would have the best chance of answering: I would like to find any information relating to my grandfathers old horse stable... Goldcrest Stable was it's name and to the best of my knowledge it ran horses from 1966- early to mid 70's. Mainly at Woodbine/Greenwood/Fort Erie.. I have about a half dozen old winners circle photos from those locales but I believe he ran some horses in the northeast U.S. Anyways thanks to anyone who could help.. I'm sure its a long shot, but any info at all would be great.
I went back through some old American Racing Manuals and found this information for Goldcrest Stable:
1966: 75-7-14-10, $22,495
1967: 207-25-32-25, $52,961
1968: 264-30-27-24, $53,672
Hope this helps.
Dan: Just saw the Well Armed story on HRTV. Would you please post the pp's. Any update on his progress after the surgery.
Here are Well Armed's past performances:
From Steve Andersen's column posted on 5/14/10:
"Well Armed, the winner of the 2009 Dubai World Cup, is nearing a return to racetrack training, trainer Eoin Harty said this week.
Owned by WinStar Farm, which owns Kentucky Derby winner Super Saver, Well Armed has not started since finishing last in the San Diego Handicap at Del Mar last summer. He emerged from that race with an ankle injury that required surgery.
Well Armed was being prepared for a return to racing earlier this year, when he was sidelined by an illness. Harty said he is several months from a return to racing."
You can follow his progress on our Disabled List on the right side of the blog.
Dan, with all this talk of the "Filly Triple Crown", what races do you think should make it up? Will you please post the highest Beyer pared races restricted to 3yo fillies?
I'd go with the Kentucky Oaks, the Mother Goose, and the Alabama.
Alabama - 104.20
Test - 102.35
Prioress - 101.42
Gazelle - 100.55
Hollywood Oaks - 100.50
Queen Elizabeth II Challenge Cup - 100.42
Garden City - 100
Mother Goose - 99.95
La Brea - 99.43
Kentucky Oaks - 99.40
We have the Beyer fig from some of Sunday's races from Woodbine, including a 20K claimer, but no fig on the Queens Plate.
Thanks, Joe in Buffalo
Big Red Mike received a 91 Beyer for his Queen's Plate victory.
Hi Dan-perhaps you can help me with a problem on the online version of the Closer Look pages. For the second weekend in a row, in trying to access the Closer Look pages for Monmouth only races 6 through 10 are available-nothing before or after. Is DRF only doing those five races each weekend day? Or am I doing something wrong?
Thank you in advance
I believe that the Saturday "Closer Looks" at Monmouth are only for the races that comprise the Pick 5 Wager. Monmouth is one of the tracks that didn't get "Closer Looks" in the past, but we are providing them for the Pick 5.
Any reason why my $7 dollar print version of the DRF...that the Hollywood past performances DO NOT have a closer look attached?
If the quality keeps getting reduced..how come the price doesn't go down as well?
DRF.com Handicapper Mike Beer and I were wondering the same thing so we walked over form the "Internet" side of the office to ask what was going on with the East Coast edition of the Saturday paper. There was no analysis and no "Closer Looks" for Hollywood and the "Graded Handicap" for the Hollywood Gold Cup had Rail Trip as the co-second choice at 7-2. We were told there are issues with the print site. Needless to say, we were disappointed.
Blind Luck runs 2 seconds faster than Trickmeister but receives a lower Beyer. Well, I thought that Team Beyer must have concluded that the track had changed and began playing faster after the Barbaro(7th race). But, the Beyer for the 10th race, the Sussex, is completely in line with the Barbaro. What gives? Did the Beyer team just conclude that Blind Luck could not have possibly run in the 111 range as the final time suggests, particularly since she won by only a nose?
In an e-mail, Mr. Beyer wrote that "the fast time for the Blind Luck race was an aberration on the sloppy track--the only question is how much of an aberration. If the time had been taken at face value, Blind Luck and second place Havre de Grace would each have gotten a figure of 116."
The number was projected by the Delaware figure-maker at 95 and Mr. Beyer believes "that might have been a little generous (Havre de Grace's four career figures had been 83, 83, 65 and 61.) This is a good example of why you need human beings calulating speed figures. Equibase's data says that Blind Luck and Havre de Grace earned the two best figures by any 3-year-old in the U.S. this year, male or female."
I once had a horse win, I think 5 straight for me. He was a horse born with talent that got a high bow. He was laid off several years and came back for $2000 at Los Al I think. He was near white and his right front threw out in a loop like Jim Furyks golf swing. He was a very game horse. His name was Danger maybe you can find his pp's for me. Thanks
Here they are:
Dan with the opening of Saratoga 11 days away, could you list the PP's for the ultimate horse for the course Quick Call? thanks
Here's what I have for Quick Call:
Can’t recall ‘capping many grass races this late in the year where not a single horse in the field has tried the turf. I will be relying on the Tomlinson Turf Ratings to come up with my key selections.
#2 Northern Candyride, this horse is sitting third on the ML. Who made these odds? I just can’t see a crack baby climbing the racing office ladder and getting the position of morning line maker but stranger things have happened. Like me winning one of these contest….eh? Eclipse Award jockey rides for the meet’s leading trainer. Yes I know this isn’t J/T racing but the horse is bred for the turf and he has won half of his races.
#6 Mr Consolidator, second highest Tomlinson and six times he has hit the board.
#4 Gunner, this horse is the most lightly raced in the field and could improve on the grass. I like the three 6f works since the last race. He just might last a little longer this time around. Stokes will be back at the controls. He is a bit of a price too.
$40 Trifecta 2/4,6 /4,6
$20 Trifecta 4/2 /6
Congrats to Alfredo for finishing first in last week's HandiGambling exercise. He selects the fourth race at Woodbine on Wednesday. Here are the past performances:
Remember that you have a mythical $100 with which to wager on the race, and the entrant with the highest money total will receive a "Monthly Enhanced 60-Card Past Performance Plan." Anyone going over the $100 limit will be disqualified. Please post your plays and analysis to the blog. In the event of a tie, the earliest post gets first preference. One entry per person please. I reserve the right to approve or deny any entries.
I know that there is a time issue for some of you, but let's remember why we began the HandiGambling races in the first place. The goal was to share ideas on why we like these horses, and why we're betting them the way we are. I'm not asking for a novel, but if you could spare a sentence or two outlining your handicapping angles, and thought processes about wagering, it would be appreciated.
Best of luck to all.
Back Wednesday with the HG analysis and Beyers of the Week.
Seems like #5, Impossible Time may have overextended on 6/19 and has a history of bouncing slightly after such an effort. The 3 yr-old, Redverse, combines a recent high Beyer with a bullet on 7/4. Big improvement is pending. Sugar Bay has Chantel, class, speed and desire. $50 exacta box 3-8
HG 194 I like #7 Flashy Got Even $100 to Win on #7
Hello all... Belmont Park 25 out so far today. Race 1 has 3 running. Good Luck Today. Bounce back week 4 me.. Whackymacky Out!!!
HG 194 4th race Woodbine 14 Jun 10 $100 exacta 1-5. #1, Avie's Tale, can close and is second time out after a break and ran willingly the first time. Last workout was slow, but probably was just for maintenance. She can win this somewhat speed-filled race. Can't figure out why #5 Impossible Time has never routed before, with breeding that includes Pleasant Colony and Sadler's Wells. She could close for the win, but I'll play her for 2nd today. Hoping for big payouts to all the HG'ers,
REDO HG194 SINCE THERE NO SUPER. $5.00 TRI KEY #10/#1#3#5#6#8=$100.00.GOOD LUCK TO ALL. SWEDE.
HG 194 $51 Exacta 10/3 $21 Exacta 10/8 $14 Exacta 10/5 $14 Exacta 10/6 As someone else mentioned, Missit has beaten the favorite. The high percentage jockey and trainer are also factors in putting her on top. People will ignore her because of the last race, which means the price on her will be higher, but she's very much capable of winning.
There is something going on in the jockey colony at Belmont. The Man O' War was not an anomaly: for the past couple of weeks, with hard to firm dry turf, the jocks have been purposely slowing the pace in route races to times so slow that harness horses could outrun the thoroughbreds. The sprint fractions have been appropriately blazing, in fact, there was a 20 and 4 opening quarter in one of them. I've had to adjust my handicapping, since I noticed this disturbing trend of the jocks manipulating a boring Euro-style race in which the only running is done in the final quarter. I knew that the longshot had a good chance of stealing the race against Gio Ponti though I thought that Velasquez's horse had an even better chance on the front end- until I saw Johnny strangle the horse repeatedly against its will until the horse quit. I hope that these preposterously slow paces do not continue through the Saratoga meet. Can you imagine Presious Passion in the Man O' War? He would have been ahead by 45 lengths at the top of the stretch! After having mixed feelings, my respect and admiration for Gio further increased- not only was he the most serious professional in the paddock, but also he must have run that last eighth in under 11 seconds!
Cayman alert! Restated wager as there is no Super in this race according to Annie! Also, reminder there are now two Keiths commenting on formblog; I'm still Keith L. Wager for HG $10 WPS on #10 Misssit (Ire) $ 5 WPS on #8 Redverse $ 5 Exactor Box: #5,#8,#10 $ 2 Triactor Key: #5,#8,#10/#5,#8,#10/#3,#5,#8,#10 $30/$15/$30/$24-$99 And a buck for the washroom attendant.
HG 194 Woodbine #1 Avie's Tale: horse for course underneath in exotics #3 Sugar Bay: looms large over this field, top rider Sutherland will get trainer Benson off Woodbine schneid #8 Redverse: 26% repeat winners for trainer Carroll, class relief in allowance company #9 No Use Denying: Rodney Dangerfield-type that has had 5 of last 13 taken off the turf; steady worktab #11 Flaming Stew: 3rd start off layoff, exotic include Wagers: $29 Exactor: 3-1 $19 Exactor: 3-9 $25 Exactor: 3-11 $3 Triactor P/W: 3 // 1,9,11 // 1,8,9,11 Let's win some LOONIES!
just a heads up to Mickey - I think you wanted the 3/1,5 not the 2/1,5