09/05/2011 12:07PM

Spa Day 39: 9/5/11

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12:05 pm: Wake up! First post is 12:30 for Closing Day, where the Hopeful is the headliner, four of the six scheduled grass races have been moved to the sloppy main track, and the two stakes races that remain on the turf have been diminished by scratches.

There's a mandatory payout of the no-carryover pick-6 pool whether or not anyone picks six. The sequence on races 6 through 11 starts and ends with turf sprints that have been moved to the main track and includes three stakes races -- the Ecclesiastic (8th), G1 Hopeful (9th)and G3 Glens Falls (10th).

The MTO's have yet to be scratched from the two remaining grass races, but early scratches because of the soft turf changed both races. The Ecclesiastic is down to a field of seven (not counting MTO's) and Fiddlers Patriot now looks like a strong favorite in what had been a contentious field before the defections of the next four ML choices -- Varsity, Yield Bogey, Awakino Cat and Ahvee's Destiny. The Glens Falls lost just two entrants but they were the top contenders Bubbly Jane and Endless Expanse. 

 

1:00 pm: A little warm-up action before the mandatory-payout pick-6 begins:

 

2:05 pm: Three races, three romping favoprites: Cindy's Joy ($4.80) by 6, Seeker ($4.20) by 6 1/2, Cease ($3.70) by 3 1/2. Could we save a little chalk for later on when I might need it in the pick-6?

I really like playing this closing-day pick-6's. They attract good pools, and if 5 of 6 is the best anyone can do, the payout is three times higher than it normally would be. Here's my worksheet for the sequence, which I hope helps you organize your pick-6 and late pick-4 thoughts without looking at all the horses who have been scratched. (I've left the MTO's in for the 8th and 10th because they haven't officially been scratched yet.)

I'll post my play shortly before the 6th, where it's going to take some board-watching to determine which if any of the six firsters to include, and how prominently, along with the three obvious favorites who have run decently.

 

And let's get the mushy stuff out of the way now: Thank you, thank you, thank you for all your kind closing-day comments about the blog this year. I thoroughly enjoy doing it and your participation in the comments energizes me and makes it all the more fun for readers. Okay, that's enough of that. As you were.

 

2:35 pm: MTO's just scratched from the Ecclesiastic and Glens Falls, and removed from worksheet above.

 

3:10 pm: One last time for Saratoga 2011:

 

3:25 pm: That was a lot of last-minute scurrying over the firsters for naught as Tug of War, one of the three who had run, won the opening leg of the pick-6. His victory gave trainer Mike Hernandez, a Saratoga mainstay and just described by Durkin as "the oldest active trainer in New York," his first win of the meet.

I found the betting on the firsters confusing. Manero was the clear fourth choice behind the three with experience in the double and pick-3 pools, but then never took any money in the win pool. Meanwhile, Sciacca firster My Pal of Pals was a distant seventh choice in both those pools but 3-1 in the early betting, which seemed pretty serious -- but he did nothing but float up from there, ending up at 7-1. The two who looked best on paper rather than the board turned out to be the best of the firsters: the $110k Corinthian from Bruce Brown was 2nd at 10-1 and the $25k City Zip from Linda Rice was third at 13-1.

At least I stayed on the A train and beat favored Little Dale. I tend to play C-heavy tickets on these mandatory-payout days in case 4 A's and one wacky C are enough to get the front end of the pool with 5 of 6. My only single A ended up being Fiddlers Patriot in the Ecclesiastic -- he towers over what's left of the field on paper, and if it's not him, I had no opinion of whom it might be.

On to the 6th where I have no idea why Ambassador Bridge is the fifth choice at 8-1 instead of one of the favorites.

 

4:20 pm: Goldzar, 31-1 outsider in field of six, slogged through the extremely slow and boggy (1:07.28 for 5.5f) turf course to upset the Ecclesiastic. On a firm course, this figured to be the fastest turf sprint of the meet. Instead, they ran about 35 lengths slower than the course record. I can't remember even the sorriest statebred maiden claimers take that long to complete a turf sprint up here. How slow will the Glens Falls (exactly twice as long at 11f) be?

Maybe someone hit the all button, maybe 5 of 6 will be good enough. Let the redboarding begin, but I didn't see anything to like about the winner. In fact, the two times Goldzar has been entered at the meeting, I stared at his pp's wondering what moved owner Kenny Desormeaux to claim him for $80k last fall. In any case, he gave jockey Jaime Rodriguez his first winner of the meet after going 0 for 60 through yesterday.

Pashito the Che, bet late to clear 5-2 second choice, came out and bumped 4-5 Fiddlers Patriot twice in the stretch, but I don't think that's what beat the tired favorite. After a claim of foul by Velazquez, Pashito the Che was dq'd from 2nd to 4th, elevating Wicked Tune to 2nd and Fiddlers Patriot to third.

Also, True to Tradition was late paddock scratch. You got moved to Fiddlers Patriot in the pick-4 or pick-6.

 

5:10 pm: Wasn't sure how to root in the final yards of the Hopeful as I'd have stayed alive for 5 with either 9-5 Currency Swap or 66-1 Trinniberg, albeit with many more options with the former. In any case, Currency Swap finally wore down the longshot leadern to win an ugly but exciting Hopeful, run in achingly slow time (1:26.16) and marred by J C's Pride's being pulled up on the turn.

Currency Swap was an impressive six-length winner of his debut Aug. 6 on the Whitney undercard, in a race that got a BSF of 98 that I doubt he ran back to today (and from which two others have returned to fall off a few points.) The son of High Cotton was a $70k yearling purchase by Klaravich Stables and William H. Lawrence, and is based at Monmouth for trainer Terri Pompay.

Trinniberg was a pretty nutty price when you consider he was only 5-1 in the Saratoga Special three weeks ago off a winning debut at Calder. He got caught up in a blistering early duel in the Special but got clear today in 21.91 and 45.14. Currency Swap drew even in upper stretch, Trinniberg spurted away briefly, but Currency Swap made another run at him and got there by half a length.

5:40 pm: Emerald Beech ran down Dynaslew in the final furlong to win the Glens Falls by a length and a half in 2:21,71 for 11 furlongs.

If I'm reading the willpays correctly, no one's alive for 6 of 6. I'll have five 5-of-6 consos [3,5,7,9,10 in the 8th] with the #6 (@$2,147=$10,735) or #16 (@$1,952=$9,760) and one conso [just the #7 in the 8th] with the #4 ($6,782) or #14 (#4,157). Those payoffs will change if the post-time favorite wins because #11 Get Gorgeous was just announced as a late scratch so the consos to her will be transferred to the post-time favorite. Also have those somewhat redundant insanity-insurance XAAA 50-cent pick-4's to the #6 ($11,224 for $2) and #16 ($8942 for $2).

 

6:05 pm: The 16-14-4-6 ran 1-2-3-4 in that order, and since Keiko ($4.30) inherited the consos on the late scratch, the five consos paid $1,718 apiece, down from the posted $1,952 willpay. Still, it's nice to end the meeting on a winning note and I won't even think about what it might have paid had Trinniberg held on.

Pour yourself a beverage and congratulate yourself on making it to the end of Saratoga 2011. I'll be back here Saturday for Opening Day at Belmont. First post is 1 p.m.

 

 

Peter Eckert More than 1 year ago
Hey Steve, appreciate your daily blogs from Saratoga and the time you have to put in to keep us up to date. Would you consider posting the total cost of your Pic 4 and 6 investments so we don't have to try and figure out the cost of the different permutations. Thanks .Pete
fort marcy More than 1 year ago
Hi Steve, Another great job for 2011. Glad you had a profitable meet. A couple of questions: 1) in the DQ of P. the Che- it appeared there was an explanation in a diagramed replay, I don't recall this has been done on a regular basis. Hence, is this done on all DQ situations whether a number is taken down or if nothing changes? What is your take on the length of the meeting? Would you prefer expanding, revert to the original 4 weeks or something in the middle? Lastly, how big of an impact do you see in the slot contribution for 2012? How is money divided- purses, cap improvements etc.. ? Do you think we will be seeing more full fields? If so, where will the horses come from? Good Luck at Belmont- Best of Luck to All! [1-Length of meeting: Personal preference is for same or shorter, and maybe a five-day week or two to start. 2-We're all guessing on the slots contribution -- depends on actual volume of play -- but it should produce an extra $25m for purses and $25m for improvements during its first year of operation. -SC]
Ian Veitch More than 1 year ago
Varsity, Yield Bogey, Awakino Cat, and Ahvee's Denisity are all racing at Parx today in races with much larger purses.
ralph conte More than 1 year ago
Hi Steve, Another great job this year. Are you playing any pick 4'S today. I guess your playing the pick 6 for the pay out. that a shot? [Playing both pick-4's and the pick-6. -SC]
jerry More than 1 year ago
Great blog as usual. Hope the rain stays away from Saratoga today. Track looks dull. They could have used an egg timer on the first race. I hope the Belmont meet has as much success as Saratoga.
Matt More than 1 year ago
Why would JJ give up a riding title to ride Rose Cat at Parx???
bigjcc526 More than 1 year ago
6 maiden races on the final card. Pull the curtain out and put down this "worst Saratoga meet" of my lifetime . NYRA greed with every card full of maiden,turf sprint and low level claimers. This meet was so great until just a few short years ago. I would love to see the meet shortened to around 25 race cards,9 races on weekday,10 on weekends.that will never happen.
jeff39 More than 1 year ago
I have a question from Satrurday's card.....when were the 3 horses scratched before the race was eventually cancelled? I had a DD bet with 1-3 and was expecting the conso payout and when I got to the track today all I got was the refund of my bet. I didn't here any scratches before the running of the 11th but honestly with the rain and thunder I possibly missed it......great blog Steve. How many days til opening day 2012? [They announced those three scratches a minute or two before they cancelled. -SC]
Jeff39 More than 1 year ago
So was the 12th race cancelled before they even ran the 11th? If not wouldn't they have to pay the conso. DD to those 3 horses too? [The sequence was: They ran the 11th, then announced the 12th was moved to the main track, then announced the 12th was cancelled. -SC]
Dave Schabell More than 1 year ago
Echoing all of the sentiments of gratitude being exuded here on the blog today. It was a fantastic Saratoga meet, despite the whimpers about too much racing, poor cards, etc.. It is still Saratoga, a very special place, and a welcome break from the everyday humdrum of the racing year. It was profitable for me, much by following the Flying Zee stable, as a result of reading a feature article in the DRF Saratoga Preview. While I don't follow New York racing as religiously now that the Spa has closed, I still check in on the blog periodically and post on Pace Advantage as BMustang. Thanks for being part of the 2011 Saratoga experience!!!
cigarvacation More than 1 year ago
Steve, While I have been on hiatus from horse gambling for years, I specifically told a couple of buddies, that still gamble on the Saratoga and Del Mar meets heavily, to get on YOUR BLOG and BACK at Saratoga for the whole meet. I only wish I caught on to you a decade ago when I was wealthy enough to pump it in on a daily basis !! I told them to not get discouraged and stay with your picks and tickets on a daily basis for the whole meet. Suffice to say you made them a boatload of money today !! ( I realize they hurt your overall haul for the day !) I will be back in action next year for the Saratoga meet and rest assured I will be on your back for every published play you make prior to post time. I had MAJOR disciplinary issues when it came to the horses and I have cured that symptom and can't wait to get involved with you next year. I know many major EGO driven handicappers and fortunately I have cured that ill as well. You are by far, at least in my book, and I have played the horses for 35+ years save for the last 3 years, the best Saratoga handicapper I have ever encountered. Please keep your blog and ticket plays published with as much advance time as possible as I will be with you every step of the way next summer at the SPA. NICE WORK !!!
Shoe137 More than 1 year ago
Steve: Thanks for doing your Spa blog, it was great to play along with you. Nice to meet the hounds too. I came close but can't seem to drink from the Pick-6 well as yet. Maybe it will come in bunches. Now for a little break.
BC More than 1 year ago
Steve, I have noticed that many times a AAAA pick 4 ticket results in an unacceptably low ROI (for the entire pick 4 investment). For example, in the late pick 4, my AAAA ticket was similar to yours. I played it for $4. My total pick 4 investment with B's C"s was $225. If the all A ticket proved to be a winning one, I wonder if the pick 4 payoff would have justified my $225 investment. The broader question is this: typically, are all A tickets that include the likely favorites a poor investment over the long run ? Thanks
jeff More than 1 year ago
I have a winning ticket from Saratoga. Is Saratoga the only place I can cash the ticket? How long do I have to cash the ticket. Thanks. [You can cash it at any NYRA track or by mail, and you usually have until March 31 of the following year. -SC]
Uncle Julio More than 1 year ago
Steve, I cannot thank you enough for this blog. Did not make it up to the Spa this year from Florida, but followed the action everyday through you. Hope to see you in Tampa this winter, will buy you a beer. Unfortunately, we ain't got no Hattie's.
Walt P. More than 1 year ago
Steve: Concerning Trinniberg, had he won the Hopeful, I suspect you would have taken down the pool as I think you would have had the only live tickets on 5-of-6, while also guaranteed to do well for having 4-of-6 however number of times that would have hit. At least we will have racing over likely a dry track on Saturday at Belmont since it looks like Katia will be staying out to sea and not affecting us at all.
ralph conte More than 1 year ago
Steve, help me out you hit 5 tickets 5 out of 6 right? all A's as one and then AACAAA (4 times) right? [Correct. 1 conso on the all A's, four consos on the AACAAA, where I used four C's that lost. So all five consos consisted of five A's and the complete miss of Goldzar. -SC]
Bill More than 1 year ago
If you got beat today, the track conditions were disgraceful. If you made a nice score, the track conditions just presented a good challenge to your handicapping skills. What is an automated spam submission and what is the payoff for the spammer to go to all the trouble? [That's automated junk email posing as a blog comment. It's a waste of the spammers' time since we have good spam-detectors and I have to manually approve comments before they're posted anyway. -SC]
Michael D. More than 1 year ago
Read your blog everyday as I followed along with the Saratoga cards. I thoroughly enjoyed cheering for you during your pursuit of pick 6s and felt actual pain after some of theose tough beats. I'm sure I'll be right back here next year (and Saturday for that matter) as we do it all over again.
Bill R. More than 1 year ago
Steve, I really enjoyed your blogs during the Saratogo meet. Also, enjoyed your book, Exotic Betting. Thanks again.
Bill R. More than 1 year ago
Steve, I really enjoyed your blogs during the Saratogo meet. Also, enjoyed your book, Exotic Betting. Thanks again.
djr More than 1 year ago
Nice hit with all on late P4 getting that $60 horse with 3 favorites paying 2 Large for a 50 cent wager. Also you got 5/6 for another $8 grand. How did you do overall this summer. It seems like you hit some big picks. [Came out ahead but no towering home runs. -SC]
jerry More than 1 year ago
Saratoga continues to not only be the graveyard of favorites but the graveyard of me. Hung in well the first week and the last week but the middle 4 got me. Oh well; same time next year? On to Belmont!!
Matt 29 More than 1 year ago
Congrats Steve! All A's it is!!!!!
Sero More than 1 year ago
Have to agree with a previous comment on the DQ of Pashito the Che. The incident occurred close to the wire and the favorite was already spent where the outcome was not affected even though there was a foul .......versus Bound By Humor's foul which appeared blatant resulting in a non DQ. In a perfect world, a DQ is justified in both situations. A perfect world as we know it does not include the stewards.
Christine Race More than 1 year ago
I usually am not able to log on till later...but can still enjoy what the blog has to offer...and the last few days (as thru much of the meet) I log on and see that Mr. C. has picked the last 4 of 5 going into the finale. THATS EVERYTHING except for that pretty unreachable $65.00 horse. I will be rooting for you in the last race...its only fitting that it should be yours. If your new to the blog you know that this are not being done with persistant "chalks" - Thank you for the education-the $$$ you try to assist each player to make for themself and the "cajonies" I continue to develop (YOU should have an info-mercial "get cajonies of STEEL" lol) - hope you drop in from time to time thru winter as the stakes arise....or for the BCup. Your work is greatly admired
magicman More than 1 year ago
Steve, Once again, thoroughly enjoyed your blog. I am sure there were days when it was a pain in the butt-but it was always informative and funny. I need a sabbatical, but best of luck to you and the hounds.
taxman More than 1 year ago
Stevem, what do you think your consos would have been if Trinniberg had won? Nice play, good way to wrap the meet, hope you get it, thanks for all this season! [Much larger. ;> But I'd have only been alive for 1 conso to the 6 and 1 to the 16 instead of 5 to the 6 and 16 and 1 to the 4 and 14. -SC]
Walt P. More than 1 year ago
Oh, and since no one is alive for six-of-six, that means there will be a 4-of-6 consolation payoff as well since there is a mandatory payout today.
Trish & Mike in CO More than 1 year ago
Thank you for all the great and informative blogs. One of the best things about your Saratoga blog is all the beautiful charts you construct, together with interesting pictures.
Walt P. More than 1 year ago
Steve: Wanted to add my thanks as well for the meet. I know sometimes it takes a while for comments to get up here and my comments may not always jive with what others think, but it's good we have forums like these to express our views. Anyway, those who criticized NYRA for only leaving the two stakes on the turf today, the fact they needed 2:21.71 to run a mile and three-eighths in the Glens Falls to me says all we need to about their decision to only have the stakes on the turf today, even if it is the last day of the season. They had close to two inches of rain last night and this morning, and had this not been the last day those races likely would also have been moved to the main track. Too bad about J.C.'s Pride in the Hopeful, and it looked like several horses in the Hopeful had serious problems handling the track. Very unfortunate that happened.
david More than 1 year ago
steve love the spa blog. i have been reading for years and it is great stuff. thank you. david
Trish & Mike in CO More than 1 year ago
Thank you for all the great and informative blogs. One of the best things about your Saratoga blog is all the beautiful charts you construct, together with interesting pictures.
Captain Spaulding More than 1 year ago
Hooray For Captain Steve, Wish the last day had been better, but we can't change the weather - only complain about it. And as for Toones - one suspects that a cat can't really drive a car, but go up Union anyway. And, hello. I must be going, I can not stay, I came to say, I must be going, I'm glad I came, but just same, I must be going... Hooray, Hooray, Hooray! I'll do anything you say, in fact I'll even stay, But I must be going...
Nathan Detroit More than 1 year ago
In other news, it looks as if Maryland's King T. Leatherbury is intent on placing himself in the fray for nomination to racing's Hall of Fame since so many of racing's "purists" seem to find his 6,330-plus wins -- mostly with lower-level claimers -- not worthy of national accolades. Ben's Cat, a horse Leatherbury bred, owns and trains, won the Grade III $350,000 Turf Monster Handicap at Philadelphia about an hour ago, following up on his victory in the $200,000 Pa. Governor's Cup at Penn National on July 30. Onward to the Breeder's Cup Turf Sprint!
Tom More than 1 year ago
Steve, great blog, Just turned on TVG to bet the entry and watch the Hopeful and had to hold on to my money after seeing that horribly sloppy track. It always boggles my mind why trainers would attempt to run their young expensive 2 YO's on such a terribly sloppy track. The race itself looked like no horses except TrinnieBurg on the lead and Currency Swap chasing wanted any parts of that horrible track, that's 2 horses out of 10. Two horses that looked like they were walking home dead tired with over an eighth to go. Sloppy tracks or boggy turf courses are the most untrue run races around.
Jordan Weiss More than 1 year ago
Hi Steve, I read your blog religiously and want to thank you for dedication amazing handicapping skills. Saratoga wouldn't be the same without you. Thanks, Jordan
Jim More than 1 year ago
This has turned into a joke. It looks like most are spinning their wheels and a final time of 1:26.16. Exactly how safe is the track? And as for the take down of Pashito the Che, exactly how do they not take down Bound By Humor for the same damn thing?
Inlovewithspa More than 1 year ago
Steve - thanks for the blog, I've followed it for a couple of years now and don't yet understand the difference between your "A"', "B", and "C" picks. What is the signifance of the difference buckets? Thanks for continuing to do the blog? [You can read about it here: http://www.drf.com/store/drf-ticketmaker-user-guide ]
Buffalo Man More than 1 year ago
Doesn't it seem a daily occurrance that a horse turning for home "blows" the turn? Domingez's mount in the 6th (Calgary Enforcer) today. Have they changed the way the turns are banked or sloped? I've never seen it happen with such frequency even in the "bull ring" tracks like Charlestown.
yuwipi More than 1 year ago
Steve, I want to get this off before the rain knocks out my internet here in north Jersey. There really aren't words to thank you enough for all you do for this game. The blog, which is my go to first thing every night when I get home from work, the group of folks you have given us at DRF (won't list them all, but they're all included), and for allowing all of us who toil in work outside the racing game the chance to vicariously participate in so much. Thanks. Fellow commenters, here's hoping we all can gather around Steve's blog again next year and enjoy each other's cyber company. Health, happiness and many cashes for all. Lastly, echoing the comment of Toones below I said goodbye to an old friend when I drove out of town after the Travers. Let's all say hello to her again in 2012.
Alex More than 1 year ago
Toones' comments pretty much sum it up for me. Good cards, bad cards, good sound bad sound, I'll still be making my annual pilgrimmmages to my Mecca. Thanks again for the blog Steve. I feel like I am there when I am back home, sitting at my work desk. Thankfully the NFL is right around the corner to help counter the withdrawal pains. Hit'em hard at the windows Steve!
ralph conte More than 1 year ago
Steve, what do you think ,did anybody have the 11 in the first leg of the pick-4. did youever see 3 out of 4 paying out? [Of course somebody used him -- it was only a six-horse field and there were probably over 200,000 combinations sold. I don't remember a 3/4 payoff in NY but it happens often elsewhere where there are smaller pools. -SC]
Matt 29 More than 1 year ago
Hi Steve. Thanks for another great year entertaining us at Saratoga! Just wanted to let you know that I'm sure there are others just like myself that constantly refresh your blog on our computers and phones but rarely comment. Made it to Saratoga opening weekend. First trip in several years. Will be back annually. I do know why I find my self rooting for you P6's. So good luck on all A's the rest of the way out! -Matt
orsch More than 1 year ago
I know you are not a fan of hedging to early, but wondering if you put a little insanity hedge on the 11 there, Steve? [I used the pick-4 as an insanity hedge and made a bunch of 50-cent 3A's/1x and 2A/2C tickets so am alive on a 50-cent 2,11/1,9/3,9,11/6,16 pick-4. -SC]
david More than 1 year ago
i never saw anything like the 8th. jockey stopped riding the 5----11 goes by----after the wire 5 hi-fives the 11---- [I don'tt think the #5 stopped riding -- he was dead tired and the winner surged past him. The high-fiving was for Rodriguez finaly winning a race after an 0-for-60 meet but yeah, they probably should have waited. -SC]
Dogs Up More than 1 year ago
Watching trip videos and (9) Wicked Tune likes wet lawn.
Toones More than 1 year ago
Saratoga closing is like the last day of summer camp when you were a kid. You are not sure if you will make it back next year, or if you will ever again experience the fun that you did this year, or if you will ever see some of the people and friends you saw this year, or if you will ever make it back at all. Goodnight Saratoga, being there this year was the again being there for the best year.
ML/NJ More than 1 year ago
I guess absence makes the heart grow fonder. Del Mar runs occasional 8K Claimers and usually they only run eight races, five days a week. If you like staring out into the desert instead of looking at all the green all over Saratoga, that's the place to go.
Cowboy Curtis More than 1 year ago
Whoo Wee, Nice call on that #1 Ambassador Bridge. 4 races to go. The Real CC
Tony V More than 1 year ago
Steve, Even though many of my posts this summer were on the grumpy side . I wanted to personally thank you for the hard work you put in to make this blog a living daily document. Even with all our complaints cheap races ,1x ers etc . its still the greatest meet in the world . Between touring Europe and some health issues I couldn't really get a grasp on this years meet . But by checking your blog every day I was kept up to date with every race of every day . Much Kudos, Steve . Bravo Now can we get rid of this CAPTCHA ???? HA
smilesforscott More than 1 year ago
Does anyone know where JJ Castellano is today with the jockey title up for grabs? [Parx. -SC]
jerry More than 1 year ago
My problem with patriot is the lack of works and how lightly raced he has been.
hialeah More than 1 year ago
Hi Steve, Happy Labor Day!!! Great job on the blog, per usual, and yada yada I need to start cashing some bigger tickets. What is the phrase, err, “too clever by half.” Yeah that's it, when going against the grain in a chalk fest. Anyway, it's been a fun meet. 46 weeks to go for SPA 2012. Good luck bringing it home.
Mark Moore More than 1 year ago
Thank you for the great entertainment the last 8 weeks. I don't make a bet at Saratoga without checking with your blog first. I'm not sure why but i find myself rooting against your pick 6 tickets.
cannon315 More than 1 year ago
I couldn't resist replying to your comments . . . I am almost humored (but I stop short as I don't aspire to the concept of rooting against anyone) based on what I will sum up as an interesting thought process - first, you thank Steve for his great entertainment via the writing of his blog and then admit that you read it so that you can then root against his selections in the Pick 6. Morbidly curious . . . who even admits that? Steve, I can promise you I always root for your Pick 6 plays and typically find my thoughts to be directly in line with your thinking. I am a long time horse owner, a successful one who has had multiple Grade 1 winning horses (Lear's Princess, Dream Rush, Irish Smoke and Flashy Bull) and think you are the best out there when it comes to putting a ticket together in NY to take down the P6. Sorry the SPA end is upon us but here's to utilizing all the virtual stable horses we gathered over the 39 Cards at Saratoga to use in our P6 plays during the upcoming Belmont Fall Championship meet. Thanks very much for the entertainment . . . and the P6 winning selections.
BillyC More than 1 year ago
Hi Steve, I'm a big fan of the blog. Just wondering if you keep any roi / hit rates stats on your pick 4 plays? Seems like you hit a pretty high percentage if SAratoga is any indication. Thanks! [I don't keep a hit-rate stat and don't know how useful it would be because I'd be combining serious plays with smaller action plays and high-risk homerun swings with spready hope-you-get-your-money-back plays. -SC]
Walt P. More than 1 year ago
bigjcc526: Saratoga will never be shortened back to a 25-day meet. The meet is too valuable to NYRA, and the politicians would never let that happen. The real problem has been NYRA running six-day weeks in an era when many tracks struggle to fill four programs a week (Del Mar only has run five days a week in recent years, and this year has had a few seven-race programs to do it). As I noted earlier in the meet, what I would like to see happen is a cutback to a seven-week, 35-day meet, racing Thursday through Monday in the following manner: Thursday and Friday: Eight races (nine on opening week), 3:00 PM first post throughout the meet. Saturday, Sunday and Monday: 12:30 PM first post, 13 races on Saturdays, 12 on Sundays, eight or nine on Mondays, with the jump race opening Monday programs except closing day. The lone exceptions to this schedule would be Travers Day (11:00 AM first post with the New York Turf Writers Cup opening a 15-race program) and closing day (13 races with first post at 11:30 AM or Noon). This would have most weeks 49 races per week (plus the jump race), with the bulk concentrated on Saturday and Sundays when the most people are at Saratoga and simulcast locations. I would also look to have end the Belmont spring meet on the Wednesday after the All-Star game so there are eight days off before the Saratoga meet, and then not start the Belmont fall meet until the second Saturday after Labor Day so there are 11 days off after Saratoga. Having a down week before and after Saratoga would help considerably in making trainers focus on Saratoga, and in turn make for a better quality product during the meet in my opinion.
Dogs Up More than 1 year ago
Did pic 6 pickers protect themselves with the 12, Rice FTSarter? Lots of chalk early.
Dogs Up More than 1 year ago
start of pick 6, #'s 1,4,7,11. The #4 looked like a contender and is taking $$.
paul More than 1 year ago
WOW just hit the 7-2 double and feel a little ripped off? $24 I needed 13-14 for p-4s and they raced each other most of the way.
Megan More than 1 year ago
Consider that Zapparition bled in last. Ran well at Spa two times last year. Big chance today, imo.
Mike L More than 1 year ago
Steve- Echo previous posters in saying thanks for all the work posting here. Follow you closely from work and am always happy to see you succeed. Looking forward to first big carrover at Belmont. Mike
Tony V More than 1 year ago
Dan As a professional musician and recording engineer the sound system is something I have been complaining about for years . Its a total joke . Steve assures me it is on their list of upgrades w the slot money . But then again its NYRA and I will believe it when I see it . I can't imagine how many people are going to have their hands on this slot money . If their even is any money . Its a recession !!!
richhf More than 1 year ago
@ Tony V: I think a bet should be made. What venue will see much-needed improvements to their sound system first: Saratoga Race Course or Glens Falls Civic Center? Those who have visited the Glens Falls Civic Center for hockey games know exactly what I'm talking about. It's promised with the new Adirondack Phantom season, but like you say with NYRA, I will believe it when I [hear] it.
Rob V More than 1 year ago
Steve- I wanted to point out how enjoyable the blog is. I wanted to get your perspective on the win wager. You clearly enjoy the pick four and pick six wagers but I wanted to understand how often you put a win wager in. I am also curious how much your biggest win wager (not that you've won, just how much it was). I find myself regularly playing catch-up, if I get knocked out of the pick four in the first leg, I then proceed to put a big win wager in the next race which consistently puts me behind the eight ball. I was hoping to get some guidance on this from you. [I'm usually involved in multirace bets rather than win bets, but I make token win bets on horses I don't love but think are silly-high prices and the occasional serious win bet on horse I think the public has seriously midjudged. The biggest win bet I made at this meeting was on Royal Delta in the Alabama. -SC]
Dan MacKenzie More than 1 year ago
The benefit of 4 consecutive maiden races on both Saturday and Sunday was that it gave my wife and I plenty of time to get a meal. We were not missing much action because the races were a block of dart-board contests. I agree that too many maiden races can be tedious, but the atmosphere of Saratoga makes that easier to tolerate - and the other races gave me plenty to wager on. A complete replacement of the sound system is needed. NYRA should make that a priority.
Sean N. More than 1 year ago
Steve, Thanks for another informative and entertaining blog at the Spa this year! Best of luck in the getaway P4's and P6.
jerry More than 1 year ago
Think you want to be on the outside today
south florida tom More than 1 year ago
Steve: Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions with us and for answering our questions. Your pointing out different tidbits of information that the average handicapper might not have noticed was helpful and appreciated....Tom
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
steve thank you for all the info and picks you have unselfishly put out on your blog I always enjoy reading and sometimes commenting on I love how you put together those p6 tickets and also congratulations on taking down the conso monday by the way how many did you take down anyway? just asking am looking forward to your blog on belmont on saturday again thanks mh01
Ed More than 1 year ago
Steve, Just want to say thank you for a great blog. I finally turned the corner this year in my young handicapping life. Your book and blog have been a huge help. I'm still not on the bankroll level for a $2 pick 6, but the strategies you have shared have allowed me to hit 50-cent pick 4 and pick 5s this year including hitting a $6,000 50-cent pick 5 at Arlington Park. Thanks again for the great, informative, and entertaining writing.
tim More than 1 year ago
Steve great blog and some nice hits this summer.. Last day of saratoga and xpressbet leaving certian customers in the dark with video feeds...There famous excuse of certian areas are having problems..Wish i never left NY for the simple fact i cant stand wagering online...
mjs'toga More than 1 year ago
Thank you Steve for the incredible effort and insight: You're genuine and a winner; see you again here soon. Best!
jimi More than 1 year ago
Well after 2 legs, in the words of 'The Bald Eagle", you've got 'em surrounded. Best wishes for long prices and thanks for the great writing and opining.
richhf More than 1 year ago
The state of Saratoga Race Course has become painful over the last few years as NYRA tries to suck all the milk they can out of the cash cow. It used to be the norm that weekdays saw 9 races regardless of the day, even on (back then) steeplechase Wednesday and Thursday openers. Weekends saw 10 races, and that included the Travers card. The trend started to change to 10 race cards on the steeplechase days, and a long 12 or 13 race card on Travers Day, and final week saw 10 daily, 11 on weekends. Now we have limited 9 race programs, mostly 10s with 11 on the weekends. And what's with this 12 race stuff that happened this past weekend? Saratoga has grown to be the cash cow for NYRA. It's fine for them to try to rake in what they can, but at what point does it start to dilute the product? To stretch the cards, and to bring in more horse power, races that seldom or never was seen at the Spa was added. During the 90s and until a few years ago, you'd be hard pressed to find a level claimer lower than $25k, and those races were only seen during the weekdays. Maiden Claimers weren't a regular thing, and the same went for Starter Handicaps. Even Allowance/Optional Claimers weren't a race seen at the Spa. Granted that NYRA has carded overnight stakes events to accommodate, but doing too many of these not only dilute these stakes events, but also takes horses out of other stakes events that would have otherwise triggered full fields. Sometimes I wonder if the additional races that tracks like to offer across the east coast, especially tracks that have other gaming opportunities that want a little more play from their guests, have helped to diminish the available horse population at other tracks. It may not be so, but one has to wonder if weekend 13 race programs at a track like Calder or 11/12 race programs at Monmouth have starved the pool for other tracks. So in closing, a casual fan's request to NYRA is to return Saratoga to its former glory. Return to 9 race weekday programs and only go over 10 races on Travers Day and maybe closing weekend. Drop the Maiden Claimers, or if not, reduce their presence from the weekend programs. $10K tag claimers have no place at Saratoga Race Course -- a course that has been classically known to provide "World Class Thoroughbred" racing.
goldfinch More than 1 year ago
Hi Steve, This is a bittersweet day bordering on melancholy for all who look forward to the Saratoga meet spiced up with this gem of a blog. Thanks for the effort. We look forward to the big fall racing days at Belmont when your blogs make encore appearances. Take care.
ML/NJ More than 1 year ago
Could the Maiden Race Whiners just ignore them please? I like them better than the G1s.
paul More than 1 year ago
STEVE , I just cannot thank you enough for your blog, like I said I root for you and have been on the edge of my seat a bunch of times, I played 2 p-6s, 7-7-7-7-7-7-7 and 7-1-13-9-12-6 good luck and thanks again.
Dogs Up More than 1 year ago
Looks like I'll be a net winner this Spa meet as I scratched myself today. Enjoyed riding shot gun with you on the blog. If the #6 in the third should win or hit the tri, I would think the rest of the day's outcomes will not be so chalky.
Dave or Divot80 More than 1 year ago
Let me echo the thank you that others have just mentioned regarding your daily " play calling " at Saratoga. I realize the work and concentration that goes into those efforts. It has to be somewhat tedious even to a lover of the sport. Thank You Steve Crist! But an equally huge thank you for the 'masterful' non -gambling articles that you often include. They show, as I have said in the past, the skillful journalistic talent that you have. I hope others appreciate your journalism attributes as I do. I'll look forward to your Belmont blogs on those special stakes days, as well. Divot80
ML/NJ More than 1 year ago
Wow! What price would Silver Timber be if he were running in the eighth?
Sloughi More than 1 year ago
Mr. Crist, I'm probably too late to be the first, but I won't mind being one of many, to say thank you for the terrific blog -- this summer, the summers past, and all the days in between. It was great fun to follow along with you, betting and otherwise. Promise us that you'll continue to share your insights and humor with us for many years to come.