11/24/2008 4:53PM

Questions, weekend Beyers


Here are the winning Beyer Speed Figures from last week's stakes races:

*Bet on Sunshine (CD):  Native Ruler (C. Richard/H. Theriot II) - 102
*River City (CD):  Demarcation (P. McGee/J. Castanon), Karelian (G. Arnold II/W. Troilo) - 101 (Dead-heat for win)
*Radar Love (Crc):  How's Your Halo (B. Prichard/J. Leyva) - 101
*Vernon O. Underwood (Hol):  Johnny Eves (J. Robbins/G. Gomez) - 101
*Kennedy Road (WO):  Shadowless (D. Bell/J. Stein) - 101
*Discovery (Aqu):  Wishful Tomcat (G. Contessa/R. Dominguez) - 100

*Four Bases (Aqu):  Buddy's Humor (B. Levine/J. Lezcano) - 98
*Sausalito (GG):  Siren Lure (S. Sherman/F. Alvarado) - 97
*Sophomore Sprint Championship (Mnr):  M J's Enchanteur (S. Lake/J. Arce) - 93
*Bessarabian (WO):  Smart Surprise (J. Carroll/R. Landry) - 93
*Itaka (Aqu):  Love Abroad (J. Hertler/J. Lezcano) - 92
*A Huevo (CT):  Donald's Pride (K. Huffman/L. Reynolds) - 90

*Hollywood Prevue (Hol):  Jack o'Lantern (R. Matlow/I. Enriquez) - 86

*Old Hickory (FG):  Foreign Production (J. Hodges/L. Meche) - 78
*Frances Slocum (Hoo):  Linda's Lace (R. Zahl/L. Goncalves) - 73

*Pontalba (FG):  C Karma (P. Edel/B. Hernandez Jr.) - 64
*Bobbie Bricker Memorial (Beu):  Sarasponda (J. Shuman/C. Pilares) - 62

*Indiana Stallion (Hoo):  Nightly Ritual (J. Davis/R. Hernandez) - 59
*Indiana Stallion (Hoo):  Check in Advance (L. Smock/F. De La Cruz) - 51

Here are the lifetime past performances for the highest and lowest Beyer stakes performers of the week:

Download native_check.pdf

Native Ruler earned the big stakes Beyer last week, but he may be a nice play-against next time.  In the Bet on Sunshine, he sat a perfect trip tracking a pair of dueling pacesetters, and was the one to directly benefit from that early battle.


I would prefer Wednesday's sixth race which is a maiden sp.wt. for 2yr. olds on the turf @ 1/16 at Churchill.

Here are the past performances for HandiGambling 111.  Remember that all entrants have a mythical $100 bankroll with which to play the race:

Download handigambling_111.pdf


Let's talk ADW business, more breeding, and race-watching next time.

Take care,


johnnyz More than 1 year ago
Finally had time to look at the results for todays handigambling. Big congrats to Van Sant, PauliWalnuts and all who scored. There were many including myself that could have done very well today with properly constructed tickets. I have somewhat of an excuse, as I almost forgot and just posted my picks seven minutes before post. From a profit stand point in races like this one it would appear to me the "box" play merits high considertation. Several were on the right horses but, because of ticket structure or really lack of proper tickets didn't score as well as they could have. Lilly, when you first posed your male/female question I did not give it much time, or thought as I have felt for years; races are not about gender but, all about talent. Getting caught up on Dan's last two threads with everyones thoughts and post tonight expanded my thinking somewhat. The racing world and nature are two different animals. Nature, or life inherited instincts is something that there is no control over, basically Gods intentions and will. Racing involves trained instincts, which some horses are inheritently adept to accepting and, some are not. In that scenario, I feel gender makes no difference at all. They are either good/talented or they are not. Anyway, Lilly was a great question. Calvin, yes I knew we are going to have Weatherby's online. I really hope when we get our new Stallion Register in Jan. that we also get a paper version of Weatherbys. While I enjoy the convience of online versions of stallion register, I for one hope they don't quit sending us the hard copy of the Stallion Register. I really use mine, my 08 version has more wear and tear than a Playboy that an 18 yr. old male would have owned! El Crespo; as I already mentioned in an earlier post my attraction pedigree wise was Private Account. When I take a look at his pedigree there is so much that is glaring. As you know the Nasrullah/Princequillo cross even today merits attention. Well El Crespo doesn't only inherit that cross but is also 4x4x4 to Buckpasser, has Raise A Native and Ribot 5 back, also descends from Damascus and Secretariat. Then when you toss in the Bold Ruler/AP Indy cross that you mentioned, which means he descends from the Missy Babba family-El Crespo should at least be considered to have Blue Blood in his veins. Here is where I think El Crespo stands out, first of all no Native Dancer. Which leaves out many of todays common denominators in respect to bloodlines. Also his damsire Private Account descends from War Admiral, Blue Larkspur, Man O'War, Nearco, Alcibades, and La Troienne. Which is a complete page in pedigree study on it own. EL Crespo is by AP Indy, whom I like alot but, I am not a huge fan of, for several reasons. Although his sire Seattle Slew ranks at the top of my list when it comes to all time greats. The 1978 Jockey Gold Cup, which Seattle Slew didn't win, after running fractions of 45.1, 1:09.2, 10F in 2:01.4 then only being defeated by a nose in the then 12F Gold Cup is almost unbelievable. Here is a video of the race, courtesy of Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZFr6N2lNY4&feature=related While Seattle Slew didn't win the race, what a display of class he showed after Exceller caught him in the stretch. Also for you horse racing history buffs that is the only race in history with two Triple Crown winners being defeated in one race, Affirmed was also in that race. Ray Manley, I agree with you, the break down of Eight Belles in the Derby probably cemented the Moss's thoughts concerning Zenyatta's future way before the BC. What a delight to know she will run next year! Also can't close without wishing Larry Jones and connections the best with Old Fashioned this weekend. And furthermore hope O.F. can progress and be a serious Derby threat in 09. After Hard Spun getting beat by the "red sea" parting for no apparent reason and handing Street Sense the Derby two years ago, then with Eight Belles demise after this years Derby; if there is such an enigma as a deserving person (trainer) to win a race it would most definetly be Larry Jones! Thanksgiving wishes to all!!!
Lilly More than 1 year ago
J.D., Very sweet ending to your 5:21 post. I, too, have had many of the same thoughts that you have as I lay awake at night. May God bless you and Amen, too your thoughts in the dark. Happy Thanksgiving too all and may God bless us, everyone.
Lilly More than 1 year ago
C, Tinky, Steve T., Kat, JohnnyZ, Thank you for taking the time to answer my query about the boys vs girls. Very diverse group. Correct me if I am wrong, but, it seems none of you see a disadvantage to being female in a race amongst males ( assuming proper placement ). I wonder why it seems that, on a whole, most Americans consider males horses to be superior to their female counterparts when racing? I would be curious to hear from American trainers too see if they believe there is an inherent disadvantage to being female and racing against males. A couple of you pointed out how there are more races available for females so that they can avoid the male races if they choose. This still seems like their is a predjudice towards the females ability ( if they intentionally avoid males for all fillies and mares races. If a trainer believed a filly or mare was equal to the males then why take the option to avoid? Isn't it possible the filly and mare race could be more contentious then the unrestricted race, loaded with males? In this scenario, it seems any filly and mare race is better to try than a race that included males ( according to the logic above ). Anyway, very interesting thoughts and it seems Tinky doesn't buy into the "inherent advantage of nature" I spoke of, while others seems to buy into it whole heartedly. Kat, I think I saw that look from Rags as well, and I know I have seen it many times in other instances thoughout my life ( and not necessarily in a race, as you pointed out ). I just have a hard time quantifying the "look" in terms of the value the "look" may have when it comes too day too day racing. Thanks again.
Calvin Carter More than 1 year ago
Handigambling 111, $2 Win: 1, 9 = $4 $2 Ex Box: 1, 2, 4, 9/7 – 7/1, 2, 4, 9 = $16 $2 Trifecta: 1, 2, 4, 6, 9/7/1, 2, 4, 6, 9 = $40 $2 Trifecta: 7/1, 2, 4, 6, 9/1, 2, 4, 6, 9 = $40 Total = $100
bryan More than 1 year ago
Blue Horseshoe, Thx for the interview link. I'm a relative novice. Learned a bunch from Mr. Sohby. I also learn a lot from this blog. Annie, Please keep sharing those thoughts as you did on the HG 1 horse. Those kind of insights are valuable, not convulated. They also affirm the ways I think; glad to know I'm not alone. HG $15 to win 1 $15 to win 9 $20 ex box 4,7 $5 tri box 4,6,7 When Mark Twain was at the height of his powers, it was said he received the princely sum of $5 for every word he wrote. Some wag thought he'd take advantage. So he sent Mark Twain a note. Inside the note was a $5 bill. The note read, "Dear Mr. Twain. Enclosed is $5. Send me a word." And Mark Twain did it. He sent the guy a reply. Centered on a white piece of paper was one word. The word: "Thanks." That's the word. It's the word for this holiday, and it's the word for everyday. May God bless each of you to be a blessing.
Craig More than 1 year ago
Sobny: Good information. Lots to Like about Bruce n Autumn on the dirt though. Lemon Drop has some nice dirt runners as well. Dan Looking at Kingmambo in a lot of pedigrees. Can we look at his lifetime PP's.
easygoer More than 1 year ago
HandiGambling: Gambling indeed, what with 2yo maidens routing on turf... $2 TB 3,4,5,7.......$48 $2 SB 3,4,5,7.......$48 candy (lock to win)..$4
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
...Just checking in, Thank You for all the Birthday Wishes!! AND the P6 stories are a hoot! I wish everyone a VERY HAPPY THANKSGIVING, and PEACE for the upcomming Holiday Season. SR Vegas
Sobhy Sonbol More than 1 year ago
Dear All, Gary, Fri Guy should run well today. He has been training well up to that race but he still has not run in more than a year so just keep that in mind. Also, we will be trying something new with him today which is to let him stalk and finish instead of taking the lead. But we will see what happens and Robby will have to play the break. We also have Bruce N Autumn running today and he should also run well. His debut was very encouraging for us as we knew he will need to go long and probably grass. He looks like a grass horse and had big flat feet on him. His sire does well with turf runners. The interesting part about it is that non of his siblings have on on the turf. They all won on the main track. Sobhy
zarpo More than 1 year ago
handigambling $1 sup 2,5,6,7/2,5,6,7/2,5,6,7/2,3,4,5,6,7=$72 $1 sup 2,7/2,7/5,6/5,6=$4 $2 tri 7/2,5,6/2,5,6=$12 2,5,6/7/2,5,6=$12