01/04/2012 4:26PM

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Hi Dan and Happy Holidays! Have a couple of questions for you...one is the purchase price of a horse listed at the top of the past performances...does this 'disappear ' once a horse is claimed by another owner or once they reach the age of five? Also, another question is in regards to the apprentice allowance. Do some jockeys starting out start with a five pound allowance instead of 10 pound allowance due to weight constraints? I've just seen some riders start off at a five pound allowance it seems.
Wondering if you could post the pp's of the grand old mare High Wager and also a hard knocking Canadian mare Cent T Mint.
Thanks so much, Greg

The purchase price only "disappears" in the past performance when the horse reaches the age of five.  As 'C' often points out, it is important to do your own internet research as the purchase prices of horses of racing age are not published in the DRF.  Just skimming the most recent Keeneland auction (November 2011), you'll note that CHEROKEE QUEEN sold for $220,000 to owner Clark Brewster.  That price is not listed in the DRF.  Cherokee Queen recently won the Blushing K D Handicap in her first start for trainer Steve Margolis at Fair Grounds on December 17. 

For apprentices, here is the official ruling from the California Horse Racing Board:

"An apprentice jockey shall be allowed the following weight allowances in all Thoroughbred, Appaloosa, Arabian and Paint races: (a) Ten pound allowance beginning with the first mount and continuing until the apprentice has ridden five winners. (b) A seven pound allowance until the apprentice has ridden an additional 35 winners; and (c) If an apprentice has ridden a total of 40 winners prior to the end of a period of one year from the date of riding their fifth winner, they shall have an allowance of five pounds until the end of that year. (d) If after one year from the date of his or her fifth winning mount the apprentice has not ridden 40 winners, the applicable weight allowance shall continue for one more year or until the date of the 40th winner, whichever comes first. An apprentice allowance may be waived with consent of the stewards. NOTE: Authority cited: Section 19562, Business and Professions Code. Reference: Section19562, Business and Professions Code. HISTORY: 1. Amendment filed 4-21-83; effective 5-21-83. 2. Amendment filed 3-18-97; effective 4-17-97."

Apprentice allowances might be waived in certain instances as in stakes races.  Also, if a jockey has amassed a record overseas, those numbers should be included in the overall total.  Thus, an apprentice that had a certain number of winners in Peru, let's say, would not get the whole 10 lbs. if he or she had over five lifetime winners. 

The past performances for High Wager and Cent T Mint are available at the bottom of this blog post.

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Dan, could I get complete produce records on I "Think Not and Silks of Gold, the first two race horses I owned? I Think Not won a $25,000 "stakes" at Fort Erie in her 2nd start for me. Nice way to break in to the game, eh? Imperial Bandit (ran in the Queen's Plate, won 14 races, then became my riding horse, son of $8-million yearling Imperial Falcon (Northern DAncer-Ballade).
Harlan Abbey

Here are the produce records you requested:

I THINK NOT:

1999:  ALMUDIN (g, by Meadowlake) - 36-6-4-8, $134,045
2000:  TOHO SEKITO (c, by Silver Deputy) - 14-5-3-1, $744,046 (raced in Japan)
2001:  Barren (bred to Favorite Trick)
2002:  Barren (bred to Peaks and Valleys)
2003:  FORTY PRINCESS (f, by Ecton Park) - 40-5-9-5, $44,636 (raced in Puerto Rico)
2004:  TRIPLE BROOK (f, by Officer) - 8-0-0-2, $7,870
2005:  DESTRY (c, by Posse) - 7-0-0-0, $2,252
2006:  NOT SOUH, (f, by Zavata) - 18-2-4-3, $26,892
2007:  No Report
2008:  THINK FOREST E F (c, by Forest Grove) - Unraced
2009:  SLI NI GARPPLE (c, by Value Plus) - Unraced
2010:  Bred to Value Plus

SILKS OF GOLD:

2001:  RANJAN (g, by Repriced) - 17-1-3-3, $14,440
2002:  GOLD SILKS (c, by You and I) - 10-1-1-1, $13,791
2003:  ELUSIVE EMPRESS (f, by Elusive Quality) - 6-0-0-1, $6,505
2004:  SNOW FROLIC (f, by Artax) - 10-3-2-0, $27,606
2005:  DEVILFISH (c, by Kafwain) - Unraced
2006:  No Report
2007:  PROTECTION GAME (g, by Harlan's Holiday) - 17-1-1-1, $20,610
2008:  Bred to Bowman's Band
2009:  BADGE OF SILK (f, by Badge of Silver) - Unraced
2010:  Unnamed (f, by Sharp Humor) - Unraced
2011:  Bred to Star Dabbler

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Hi Dan.
where can I find some reading material that will show how to prepare my owm odds.
lou

Try Barry Meadow's Money Secrets at the Racetrack.  I'm sure you could find it online.

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Dan,
Might you locate two obscure PP's from the 60's: Bright Object and/or Orbiter.
Two stakes class horses from my childhood at Fort Erie.
Appreciate it so much.
Thanks,
Sal

Sal, my past performance generator doesn't go back that far.  Sorry.

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Hi Dan - Is Macleans Magic ever going to run again?
Mike Bronzino

In late November, a source from Stonestreet Farms told me that he will winter at Santa Anita in the hope of getting him back to the races.

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Here are the top 25 Winning Beyer Speed Figures from last week's races (12/26/11 - 1/1/12):

1.  THE FACTOR - 106 - Malibu Stakes (G1) - 7 Furlongs - Santa Anita
2.  FRUMIOUS - 104 - OC 62k/N2X -N - 6 Furlongs - Santa Anita
3.  JOE HOLLYWOOD - 100 - Alw 48000NC - 6 Furlongs - Fair Grounds
3.  MR. COMMONS - 100 - Sir Beaufort Stakes (G2) - 1 Mile (Turf) - Santa Anita
5.  APRIORITY - 99 - Mr. Prospector Stakes (G3) - 6 Furlongs - Gulfstream
5.  RUMOR - 99 - Kalookan Queen Handicap - 6 1/2 Furlongs - Santa Anita
7.  AL MUHTASIB - 98 - Buddy Diliberto Memorial Handicap - 1 1/16 Miles - Fair Grounds
8.  ISN'T HE CLEVER - 97 - Riley Allison Futurity - 6 1/2 Furlongs - Sunland
8.  YAWANNA TWIST - 97 - OC 50k/N2X -N - 1 Mile 70 Yards (Inner Track) - Aqueduct
10. HEART BUTTE - 96 - Auld Lang Syne Stakes - 1 Mile 70 Yards - Parx
10. IT'S ME MOM - 96 - Minaret Stakes - 6 Furlongs - Tampa Bay
10. MIDNIGHT TRANSFER - 96 - Md Sp Wt 57k - 6 Furlongs - Santa Anita
13. TEDDY'S PROMISE - 95 - La Brea Stakes (G1) - 7 Furlongs - Santa Anita
13. TEMECULA CREEK - 95 - Alw 8000s - 6 Furlongs - Parx
15. STARFORADAY - 94 - Clm c-35000B - 6 Furlongs (Inner Track) - Aqueduct
16. BOYCHIK - 93 - Clm 25000(25-22.5)N2L - 6 1/2 Furlongs - Santa Anita
16. CAJUN BREEZE - 93 - Md Sp Wt 48k - 6 1/2 Furlongs - Gulfstream
16. CHARLIE BULL - 93 - Clm 5000N4L - 1 Mile 70 Yards - Penn National
16. FREUDIAN DILEMMA - 93 - OC 25k/N2X -N - 6 Furlongs (Inner Track) - Aqueduct
16. KIND REGARDS - 93 - OC 35k/N2X - 6 Furlongs - Hawthorne
16. PLASMA BEAM - 93 - Alw 5000s - 6 Furlongs (Polytrack) - Turfway
16. POINT OF ENTRY - 93 - Alw 42500N1X - 1 3/8 Miles (Turf) - Gulfstream
23. ARLO - 92 - Alw 25000s - 6 1/2 Furlongs - Parx
23. PINK LOLLIPOPS - 92 - Md Sp Wt 56k - 6 Furlongs - Santa Anita
23. SPA CITY FEVER - 92 - Alex M. Robb Stakes - 1 1/16 Miles (Inner Track) - Aqueduct
23. MR. VEGAS - 92 - OC 62k/N3X -N - 1 Mile (Turf) - Fair Grounds
23. UNITAS - 92 - B Connected Stakes - 1 Mile - Delta

*THE FACTOR's lifetime past performances are available at the bottom of this blog post.

*STARFORADAY was claimed for $35,000 by trainer David Jacobson from Rudy Rodriguez.  Three days later, he finished second in a $75,000 optional claimer on the inner track with an 89 Beyer.

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Here are the top 25 Beyer Speed Figures for juveniles/newly-turned 3-year-olds in route races:

1.  MY MISS AURELIA (f) - 96 - Frizette Stakes (G1) - 1 Mile - Belmont
2.  HANSEN - 94 - Breeders' Cup Juvenile (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles - Churchill
2.  UNION RAGS - 94 - Breeders' Cup Juvenile (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles - Churchill
4.  CREATIVE CAUSE - 92 - Breeders' Cup Juvenile (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles - Churchill
4.  UNION RAGS - 92 - Champagne Stakes (G1) - 1 Mile - Belmont
6.  LIAISON - 91 - CashCall Futurity (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles (Cushion Track) - Hollywood
6.  MARITIMER - 91 - Display Stakes - 1 1/16 Miles (Polytrack) - Woodbine
6.  ROUSING SERMON - 91 - CashCall Futurity (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles - Hollywood
9.  SOMALI LEMONADE (f) - 90 - Jessmaine Stakes (G3) - 1 1/16 Miles (Turf) - Keeneland
10. BROTHER FRANCIS - 88 - CashCall Futurity (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles - Hollywood
10. FED BIZ - 88 - Maiden Special Weight - 1 Mile - Santa Anita
10. STEPHANIE'S KITTEN (f) - 88 - Alcibiades Stakes (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles (Polytrack) - Keeneland
13. PURE GOSSIP (f) - 87 - Miss Grillo Stakes (G3) - 1 1/16 Miles (Turf) - Belmont
13. REVERON - 87 - Gulfstream Park Derby - 1 1/16 Miles - Gulfstream
13. SHARED PROPERTY - 87 - Arlington-Washington Futurity (G3) - 1 Mile (Polytrack) - Arlington
13. SKY KINGDOM - 87 - CashCall Futurity (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles - Hollywood
13. STEPHANIE'S KITTEN (f) - 97 - Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf - 1 Mile (Turf) - Churchill
18. BASMATI - 86 - Maiden Special Weight - 1 Mile - Santa Anita
18. BLINGO - 86 - CashCall Futurity (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles (Cushion Track) - Hollywood
18. CASUAL TRICK - 86 - Gulfstream Park Derby - 1 1/16 Miles - Gulfstream
18. EMPIRE WAY - 86 - CashCall Futurity (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles (Cushion Track) - Hollywood
18. HANDSOME MIKE - 86 - CashCall Futurity (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles (Cushion Track) - Hollywood
18. MONTESSA G (f) - 86 - 'N1X' Allowance - 1 Mile - Calder
18. MY ADONIS- 86 - Maiden Special Weight - 1 Mile 70 Yards - Monmouth
18. NORTHERN PASSION (f) - Natalma Stakes (G3) - 1 Mile (Turf) - Woodbine
18. WEEMISSFRANKIE (f) - 86 - Oak Leaf Stakes (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles - Santa Anita
18. MY MISS AURELIA (f) - 86 - Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies (G1) - 1 1/16 Miles - Churchill
18. STOPSHOPPINGMARIA (f) - 86 - Frizette Stakes (G1) - 1 Mile - Belmont
18. SUMMER FRONT - 86 - Dania Beach Stakes - 1 Mile (Turf) - Gulfstream
18. SWEET CAT (f) - 86 - Jessmaine Stakes (G3) - 1 1/16 Miles (Turf) - Keeneland
18. WROTE - 86 - Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf (G1) - 1 Mile (Turf) - Churchill

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Congrats to Jesus Harold for finishing first in last week's HandiGambling exercise.  I contacted him with his winning information, but he hasn't posted a race for this week yet.  Instead, let's go with for Friday's seventh at Santa Anita for this week's event.

PAST PERFORMANCES ARE AVAILABLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS BLOG POST.
 
Remember that you have a mythical $100 with which to wager on the race, and the entrant with the highest money total will receive a "Monthly Enhanced 60-Card Past Performance Plan."
 
Anyone going over the $100 limit will be disqualified.
 
Please post your plays and analysis to the blog.
 
Please separate the play from the analysis and label the play "HG" with the program numbers (instead of the horse's name) for easier scoring.
 
In the event of a tie, the earliest post gets first preference. One entry per person please.
 
I reserve the right to approve or deny any entries.
 
I know that there is a time issue for some of you, but let's remember why we began the HandiGambling races in the first place. The goal was to share ideas on why we like these horses, and why we're betting them the way we are. I'm not asking for a novel, but if you could spare a sentence or two outlining your handicapping angles, and thought processes about wagering, it would be appreciated.

Best of luck to all.

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Ed Kay More than 1 year ago
HG: $25 trifecta 5/1,9/1,9,11 In a field top heavy with speed, patient Mike Smith has already demonstrated that he can rate Obsess. Benefiting from saving ground, all he has to do is find a way through in the stretch. But in the end, fresh class prevails as Bejarano finds a way to successfully rate D'pendable and nip Obsess at the wire. So I'd like to go with the one way $100 exacta. But there are a couple of others in here to fear. Hope and Believe could be anything and might beat out the class limited Obsess (Rosario is aboard for a reason). Proven, dependable Runflatout cannot beat D'pendable, or even hang on against both of the others. But if one of those two should falter, Runflatout inherits the show. Thus the $25 trifecta.
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
CurtV , No I don't . He keeps bringing politics into it. I don't have wings ,buttZ... I drink coffee and as an amatuer U.S. government history buff I can't hold my tongue when I read stuff like that. I'm just taking a stab at HG. I doubt if the D-note to win will be enough anyway. Somebody will come along with a cold ex to take that off even if he does win. Heck it will probably be you . LOL. If the board says go I'll put some real $$ on it.
theJerseyOvaler More than 1 year ago
Whoa! A sprint loaded with speed to the MAX. There is like a whole passel of colts and geldings who can blaze a first quarter in :21 and change. A really tough test. I sided with the #11 Runflatout from a class perspective not to mention his $20k per race avg. is also top shelf. HGSA $50 W #11 $5 EXACTA #11 W #1,#6,#7,#9 $5 TRI #11 W/ #7,#9 W/ #1,#6,#7,#9
KY Crusader 75 More than 1 year ago
Here are my thoughts on the entries #1 Obsess has been facing easier. He's posting strong and consistent Beyers, not good enough to win this but likely to finish in the $$. Will use him. #2 Red Ace broke maiden impressive in open MSW in March, raced a souple more times then went for a rest. returned with a speed-and-fade then tried a route. #rd race back was on synthetic. Okay-now colt's back at 6F on dirt and can give a good account of himself for Baffert. Will use him. #3 Thuder of Zion--overmatched #4 Thinking of Girls-overmatched #5 D'pendable is lightly raced April 4YO eligible to improve in 3rd race. Tries dirt for first time. Note Baffert is 44% for 180+ days so colt will be ready for a top effort. Solid works. A very fast colt. Will use him #6 El Pocho is youngest horse in the race. Low oercentage gtrainer worries me. Jan 3rd work at Hol was extremely fast. May use on bottom #7 The Director-tossing him as a synthetic track runner #8 Sir Hamilton is overmatched #9 Hope and Believe is key player. Returns to SA dirt where he Beyered 89 in Oct breaking maiden in open MSW race. Returned dec to Hol syntehtic track and had some trouble. Ron Ellis wins at 18%. Gelding can sit off the front runners and then finish. Will use on top #10 Blake is overmatched #11 Runflatout is the trouble maker here. Ran in 5 graded stakes in 2011 and got two seconds. Has been off since Sept 30, yet he did win at first asking--but that was a field of six. Last two Beyers were only 81 & 85 so may not be same horse he was last year???? He was speed-and-fade in last two--will he be fit today after some long works? May use #12 Rocl this Way is jettisoned Here's the bet--we'll play a superfecta, double keying the 5 & 9 and including 1,2,6,11 $1 Superfecta 5 & 9 WITH 5 & 9 WITH 1,2,6,11 WITH 1,2,6,11 = $24 $1 Superfecta 5 & 9 WITH 1,2,6,1 WITH 5 & 9 WITH 1,2,6,11= $24 $1 Superfecta 5 & 9 WITH 1,2,6,11 WITH 1,2,6,11 WITH 5 & 9= $24 Trifecta puts 5 & 9 on top and keys # 1 to finish in the money $2 Trifecta 5 & 9 WITH 2,5,6,9,11 WITH 1= $16 $1 Trifecta 5 & 9 WITH 1 WITH 2,5,6,9,11 = $8 We have $ 4 left to bet $4 EXACTA 9-5
Capt. Ron More than 1 year ago
Annie, There's been a dearth of information recently about my MKB pup, SABERCAT. Do you have any information where his connections are pointing him vis-a-vis the Derby prep races? I have calls in to Asmussen that have not been returned. I guess he did not get the memo that I've taken over ownership of SABERCAT! Capt. Ron
Bluenote More than 1 year ago
HGSA I'll take a $100 straight ex 11/5.
Jeff T. More than 1 year ago
Here are my views of the horses for Handi-Gambling #265: #1. Obsess has the speed and tactical ability to run 1:08.20 and Smith is as familiar as he needs to be with this gelding. He's cutting back a half furlong and it may help him. I don't like him to win from the #1 hole with all the speed signed on (and the speed we think will run that hasn't yet). I will use him with the #6 & #9 in Super partial wheels. #2. Red Ace - Baffert has had his hands on this colt for just 90 days and is being re-oriented to Baffert's view of racing. Colt has the works that say he is ready to move forward on S.A. dirt and I can easily see him hitting the 85-90 BSF level. I will include as part of my "All" button and to upset at a price. #3. Thunder of Zion - overmatched but will include as part of my "All" button. #4. Thinking of Girls - overmatched... but this Speightstown gelding is starting to figure things out and I cannot dispense with him entirely. His last 4 works suggest this and the DNA is there and the blinkers are on for focus. I will include as part of my "All" button and to upset at a price. #5. This Forest Wildcat colt is lightly raced and is eligible to improve in 3rd race. Tries dirt for first time. Note Baffert is 44% for 180+ days so colt will be ready for a top effort. Solid works. I will include as part of my "All" button and to upset at a price. #6. El Pocho* - this uniquely named colt was obviously destined to come to America. The translation (from the Urban dictionary) suggests that this colt is not proud of his DNA/Latino culture and is really the youngest horse in the race. After I googled his name, I youtube'd his race from the #14 hole at Hipodromo and was impressed; once he got on track, which was for only a few hundred yards at the end of the race. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92IauugCWd4 His stride was efficient and he did beat 13 others quite easily. 01.03.2012 work at Hol was extremely fast. I am using this horse in the hope that they know more than I do about his obvious dominance. I will include as part of my "All" button and to upset at a price. #7. The Director - I don't like this runner and believe he will bounce off of that poly blowout. #8. Sir Hamilton - I have him rated as "overmatched" #9. Forestry gelding, Hope and Believe, is a key Ellis performer. Returns to SA dirt where he ran 1:08.80 (BSF 89) for 6F in October breaking his maiden in open MSW race. Ron Ellis wins at 18%. Gelding can sit off the front runners and then finish. Will use on top w/ the #1 & #6 (in 1st, 2nd and 4th in the Superfecta) to upset #11 (the obvious favorite w/Gomez). #10. Blake - no joy and I am overlooking this apparently overmatched Eurosilver/liar/liar/pants on fire/Really a Fibber hare. #11. Runflatout is the wild card for me here. He ran in 5 graded stakes in 2011 and got two seconds. I think he was rushed and mismanaged after he beat Midnight Interlude in his maiden when the times were lightning fast the last week of January 2011. Off since 09/30, yet he did win at first asking--but that was a field of six. Will he be fit enough today after some long works? I say he will be and will enjoy the euphoric recall of his maiden voyage. Will he go 1:07.60 like he did before? I don't think so..... but GoGo will get 1st or 2nd here. #12. Rock this Way is stuck out in the #12 hole w/Chantal. I think this horse cannot be left out of my "almost all horses" superfecta. If Chantal is all "ga ga" with the recent announcement of her engagement... this horse has enough 5F (and 6F) works to go a long way. These works are not shabby at all. I've seen this many times and so have all of you. I will include as part of my "All" button and to upset at a price. Here's my HG-265 proclamation (sorry TenCent, if it's not #265): (a.) $.50 superfecta: Key the #11 w/1,6,9 w/1,2,4,5,6,7,9,12 w/1,6,9 = $17.00 (b.) Repeat (a.) = $17.00 ($34.00) (c.) $.50 superfecta: Key the #1,6,9 w/#11 w/1,2,4,5,6,7,9,12 w/1,6,9 = $17.00 ($51.00) (d.) Repeat (c.) = $17.00 ($68.00) (e.) $.50 superfecta: Key the #1,2,5,6,9,12 w/1,9 w/#11 w/1,9 = $4.00 ($72.00) (f.) Repeat (e.) 3 times = $12.00 ($84.00) (g.) $.50 superfecta: Key the #1,2,5,6,9,12 w/#11 w/1,9 w/1,9 = $4.00 ($88.00) (h.) Repeat (g.) 3 times = $12.00 ($100.00) If I had a $100.00 of my own money and I had to spend it on this race, this is what I'd do. This is where I differ from many who play this game (and why I don't often play). I think some of these wagers I see on this HG series are not reflective of what we would really do if it was our own $$$ and not LSD's $100.00 gift certificate.
JIMPEREGOY More than 1 year ago
HGSA The “Must Not Use on top” category: 3-Thunder of Zion sports a 9% rider (hot at this meet) and is unlikely to stretch his best (83) Beyer to the par (94) needed to win this. 4-Thinking of Girls has similar Beyer issues and terrible, low % connections. 6-El Pocho has a 4 for 93 trainer. 10-Blake had modest connections. His 89 synthetic Beyer would work, but his April dirt figure sucked. Contenders for win: 2-Red Ace has top connections and a, recent, bullet work. Trounced by Runflatout in September. 5-D’pendable has excellent connections, but no dirt races. 8-Sir Hamilton has no dirt races and his turf Beyers would not be, nearly, enough to win. Talamo has been ice cold, but Mullins is, pharmaceutically, adept. 9-Hope and Believe gets a positive rider change and has the dirt Beyer to win this. 11-Runflatout has it all going for him other than the post position, likely favorable odds and a recent start. Out broke Uncle Mo at 7 furlongs. I will use 9-Hope and Believe as the key to winning this contest. HGSA Wager: $10 Trifecta # 9 WT # 2,5,11 WT # 2,5,8,10 = $100.00
John in Seattle More than 1 year ago
HGSA Scratches messed me up! Will still key Baffert, as follows: $25 TRI Key 2 over 5,11 $50 EX 2-5 Thanks Dan!
Peter Monte More than 1 year ago
hg SA $15 tri 2 / 4, 5, 9 / 4, 5, 9 $ 5 tri 2 / 5 / 4, 9 Thanks Peter Monte