- DRF Bets
- Handicapping & PPsThoroughbred Past Performances
ReportsPremium NewsDigital PapersHorsemen's Products
- DRF Classic PDF PPs
- DRF Formulator PPs
- TimeformUS PPs
- DRF EasyForm PPs
- Daily Racing Program PPs
- Equibase PPs
- TrackMaster PPs
- Using Timeform Ratings
- NewsCategoriesTrack Notes
- Learn to Play
- History of Horseracing
- How to read PPs
- How to use EasyForm
- How to use Formulator
- How to use TicketMaker
- Beyer Speed Figures
- Moss Pace Figures
- Using Race Shape Symbols
- Using Timeform Ratings
- BreezeFigs Handicapping
- Wagering and Winning
- Harness Night School
- Point of Call Index
- 3-Year Best Time Chart
- DRF TV
- StorePast Performances
- Compare all DRF PPs
- DRF Formulator PPs
- DRF Classic PPs
- TimeformUS PPs
- DRF EasyForm PPs
- Daily Racing Program PPs
- Equibase & Trackmaster PPs - Thoroughbred
A Quality Colt
Rachel Who? Zen-Whatta? Despite dominating the headlines for most of the past week with a possible $5 Million Apple Blossom showdown on the horizon, the two dominant females of thoroughbred racing were overshadowed mightily by Quality Road's awesome performance in Saturday's Grade 1 Donn Handicap at Gulfstream Park.
The bad boy of the Breeders' Cup, Quality Road balked for a moment or two before entering the Donn starting gate. The race was over the second he left the machine. Quality Road broke like a shot under John Velazquez, kindly yielded the lead to Past the Point, and moved past that one effortlessly with three furlongs to run. Once Quality Road made the front, he poured it on through the stretch to win by 12 3/4 lengths. He earned a whopping 121 Beyer Speed Figure while breaking his own nine-furlong track record set in the 2009 Florida Derby, and made observers salivate at the possibility of facing both Rachel Alexandra and Zenyatta down the road.
Plagued by quarter crack issues as well as his notorious gate habits, Quality Road has always hinted at superior ability when of sound mind and body. Some critics may label him a Gulfstream "horse for course," but the son of Elusive Quality has also won at Aqueduct and Saratoga, and his versatility (he has now won between 6 1/2 furlongs and 1 1/8 miles) and tactical speed brings Horse of the Year Ghostzapper to mind. If Quality Road stays healthy this year, Rachel and Zenyatta's tango for 2010 year-end honors may become a three-way dance.
Here are the top 25 winning Beyer Speed Figures from last week's action:
Here are the lifetime Beyer Speed Figures for last week's highest Beyer winner:
I was wondering what it meant to 'shock wave' a horse'?
The following link may be helpful:
Whenever a major stakes race is approaching I find myself looking back through previous runnings to remember the history and prestige.
I know the 2003 running of the Donn was not the most memorable but would it be possible to post the PP's for that race? It might help refresh our recollection.
Here are the lifetime past performances for the 2003 Donn Handicap run on February 22, 2003:
Forget my last post. Obviously something was lost in the translation of the PP's as it also says Mugatea was the 3-5 favorite in the BC Classic.
Jeff I am pretty certain he was coupled with Slew of Gold that day!
hi dan, is it true opus a broke down in a workout at gulfstream last week?
Opus A suffered a fractured cannon bone in her right foreleg and had surgery to insert two screws into the bone. A return to the races is not out of the question.
Is there some quick way of obtaining the Beyer Speed Figure within a day or two of any given race? I'm not talking about the major races that you summarize each Monday-which I and others greatly appreciate-but just a normal Allowance-type race.
Is there a site that I can go and find the Beyer's for races run each wk?
And, what was Bold Chieftain's fig for the SMillClsc contested Sat. the 30th?
The winning Beyer Speed Figures for all tracks appear each week in Simulcast Daily on the drf.com homepage.
For stakes Beyers, check out this page:
Bold Chieftain received a 92 for winning the Sunshine Millions Classic.
Thanks so much Dan for the PPs for Silver Train. I would love to hear what you think about his prospects as a freshman sire. He's frankly not one I would have thought of, but 128 reported 2yos of 2010 makes me take a second look.
And if I can impose on you for help in my quest for freshman sires, I'd appreciate PPs for Bluegrass Cat, Borrego, Fire Slam, Flower Alley, Giacomo, and Sharp Humor.
I can understand why some breeders are flocking to Silver Train. He has a stamina-oriented pedigree (by Old Trieste out of a Cormorant mare), but was brilliant enough to be very successful in sprints and one-turn mile events.
Count me among the unconvinced, however. I'm not sure if Old Trieste is going to be a "sire of sires," and there isn't a ton of blacktype in Silver Train's female family (the fifth dam was a champion as a three-year-old filly). I get the impression that Silver Train may have been a freak, an anomaly when compared to his (mostly) blue-collar pedigree. We'll see soon enough.
Here are the past performances for the first-crop sires that you requested:
Of the sires you mentioned, I'm most looking forward to Bluegrass Cat's first runners.
Dan, where's all the Birdstone's? After last years Triple Crown I thought there would be all kinds of his colts on the "trail". What's the deal? Any good ones out there? 3yo's that is.
Dan, did Belmont's Futurity used to be the biggest race of the year in America? How long did it carry America's richest purse? Why did it fall out of favor?
The only Birdstone two-year-old that looked good at any point last year was Bet Your Boots, a Minnesota-bred colt that won the Northern Lights Futurity at Canterbury Park with a 55 Beyer Speed Figure. He finished 23 lengths behind Rule in the Jean Lafitte Futurity at Delta Downs, and most recently finished third in a 'n3L' allowance at Sam Houston.
The Futurity used to be the richest race in the United States. I'm not sure when it was surpassed as the richest race, but the Futurity's purse was higher than that of the Kentucky Derby until 1941, and its purse was higher than that of the Belmont Stakes until 1956.
Since so much talk about arromanches..can you post his pp's please?..thanks.
Here they are:
First, a belated to congrats to Annie for winning 171. ON to A:
If Quality Road runs close to his best, he wins. I will single him on top and put the old man Dry Martini in the second slot. He is working well and has a proper spacing since his last start. I look for him to improve. throw in a few others in the bottom of the tri and swing for the fences:
$25 TRI PW: 4 / 5 / 3-6-8-10
Good luck to all
So, I choose the 8th race at Gulfstream on Wed: a starter allowance with 8 entries with several trainers that are at least recognizable.
Congrats to Dale for finishing first in the Donn Handicap HandiGambling. Here are the past performances for this week's race:
Remember that you have a mythical $100 with which to wager on the race, and the entrant with the highest money total will receive a "Monthly Enhanced 60-Card Past Performance Plan." Anyone going over the $100 limit will be disqualified. In the event of a tie, the earliest post gets first preference.
I know that there is a time issue for some of you, but let's remember why we began the HandiGambling races in the first place. The goal was to share ideas on why we like these horses, and why we're betting them the way we are. I'm not asking for a novel, but if you could spare a sentence or two outlining your handicapping angles, and thought processes about wagering, it would be appreciated.
Best of luck to all.
Does anyone know if William's Kitten is still in the hunt for the Kentucky Derby? I thought that I read that he was off the Derby trail with a slight injury, but several TVG commentators still had him in their Top 10 list. Also, I'd be interested in what peiople think of Noble's Promise chances for the Derby.
C I totally agree with your comment re "cold exactas only", which is why I brought the whole thing up originally. I was going to try it on the HG-until the scratch-as we're suppose to learn/try new things on it anyway. Drosselmeyer I've lost nine months somehow-this weekend must be the Breeder's Cup. The DRF email announcing Drosselmeyer's entry at CD this Sunday says the purse is $2 million! Plus, are they racing at CD this Sunday?
HG 172 Using the #3 Grand Bailout, liked the way he improved his last race. Trying to create a play with a price horse on top. $15 tri key 3/2,4,8/2,4,8=$90 $10 ex 3/8
Spartan TOm, Saban may be the greatest college football coach of all time and here in Baton ROuge we are greatful for his time here and bringing LSU the Natioanl CHampionship and no one begrudged him for making the move to Miami. It just rankled all that he chose to return to college football as the coach of LSU's most hated rival. Nothing personal against the man himself. Blackstone, Who Dat originated among the african american high schools years and years ago as a cheer by the cheer leaders and many have attributed this to St. Augustine HS. It was picked up by the Saints about 10 years ago and has now transformed into the Who Dat Nation from the radio host/former saint QB Bobby Hebert several years ago. Also, thanks for the running commentary on Peppi last week. I was briefly going over figures for Whirlaway before leaving for my daughters BB game and decided to throw a twenty on Peppi only because of your comments never thinking the fav was going to bolt. Just wanted to "be in that number" if Peppi came marching in!! BigEasyBigChok
Ray Manley, ROFLMAO! Tinky, I hear Grubby W. Pitzer is the owner of AXE body sprays for men....
Ever notice how a low Beyer's # often precedes a high one except when a horse is consistent? I'll keep #'s 8 and 4, throw out #2, and add #5 all under the #6. $10 Win #6 $10 Ex's #6/8,4,5 $10 Tri's #6/8,4,5/8,4,5 Thanks for snowed in action! (Amended for scratch)
HG 172 Plenty of speed in the race to set it up for a stalker/closer. #4 Red Elephant Should sit a perfect trip behind the pace setters, get the lead at the top of the stretch and have enough leftover to hold off the late closers. #6 Cheif Bear Last should have him ready to fire. Will be coming late. Get's up for 2nd. Wager: 100 ex 4/ 6 $100 bobc
Capt Bodgit, I don't like the new Cup format either. Pletcher is indeed pointing to the Classic. If Quality Road stays healthy, that's where he'll probably be. However, is that really the right spot for him? I have my doubts, but I've been surprised before. Johnny, I was nodding in agreement for the most part until this one: "What I see that most are missing is that fact that Quality Road has beat nothing. His best win was beating the lightly raced Dunkirk in the Florida Derby, who with a better trip would have been closer than the 1 3/4L he lost by, if not beat him." The "beat nothing" argument is often a slippery slope, as we've seen with the big fillies. The Donn field wasn't the best ever, but Quality Road didn't just beat them; he destroyed them. Another slippery slope is diminishing a horse's performance by making excuses for other horses. This one was too wide, this one moved too early, this one got stuck in traffic, this one went too fast, this one broke bad, blah, blah, blah. How do you know they wouldn't have gotten beat anyway? There's always something, but that's horseracing. More often than not, horses make their own luck. p_ensign, RE: tris paying more than supers. At major tracks, those occur very infrequently. I've seen it happen once or twice too, but it usually happens when there's a wacky result like a 1-20 favorite running 4th (in the super, but out of the trifecta) or when the tri is hit, but the super pays out to "ALL" in the 4th position because nobody actually has it. At major tracks with sufficiently large pools, I don't think the pool size is the reason. Generally, the tri pool is always larger than the super pool. The exacta pool is always larger than the tri pool as well. In the vast majority of cases, the proportion of exacta tickets with the combo (I'll use letters) "A-B" should be ROUGHLY the same as the proportion of tri tickets starting with "A-B" AND the proportion of super tickets starting "A-B". The proportion is (roughly) the same, so the difference in pool size is (directly) balanced by the number of winners that have to be paid out. The difference in value between the bets depends on which horses fill the added slots. PS: I agree with your thoughts on boxes. blackstone, I wouldn't necessarily do that for any race... only when you're totally confident in the cold exacta.
I'd just like to point out that the horse Sultry Band, which raced in the first at Tampa today, is apparently owned by Grubby W. Pitzer. That is now my favorite horse owner name, narrowly displacing my previous (long-standing) favorite Yusuf Mongroo.
Okay...with the scratch of the 1, my new wagers really are just a bit more for each, meaning: $45 Exacta – 4w/6 $30 Exacta – 4w/3 $25 Exacta – 4w/5 That covers the $100. Thanks Dan. Good luck good people!