05/05/2011 4:52PM

Oaks & Derby Cards: Timetable & Betting Menu


 It's later than you think: First post Friday for the 12-race Kentucky Oaks card is 10:30 a.m. and the first of the day's three pick-4's starts half an hour later with the second race at 11 a.m. Here's a snapshot of the Oaks and Derby cards -- a total of 25 races, 11 of those graded stakes including four Grade 1's, and there are two pick-6's, two pick-5's and seven pick-4's over the two days:


I count 22 Grade 1 winners scheduled to compete over the two days: Blind Luck, Unrivaled Belle (La Troienne); Awesome Gem, Giant Oak (Alysheba); Lilacs and Lace, Zazu (Oaks); Evening Jewel, Shotgun Gulch (Humana Distaff); Capt. Candyman Can, Noble's Promise, Smiling Tiger (Churchill Downs); Court Vision, Moryba, Prince Will I Am, Stately Victor, Teak's North (WR Turf Classic); and Archarcharch, Brilliant Speed, Comma to the Top, Dialed In, Midnight Interlude and Uncle Mo in the Kentucky Derby. 

I like how they set up the multirace bets on Friday: the pick-6, pick-5 and last pick-4 end with the Oaks instead of the maiden-race finale. On Saturday the pick-6 and pick-5 end with the Derby, as does the third of four pick-4's, but there's also a final pick-4 consisting of the Woodford Reserve, the Derby, and the final two races on the card.

No dime superfectas on- or off-track Oaks and Derby Days. All other wagers appear to be at their usual minimums including 50-cent trifectas. According to Churchill Downs: "Trifecta and Superfecta wagering on all races that qualify under Kentucky statutes. Daily Double and Super High-5 wagers are $1 minimum straight bets. On Oaks Day and Derby Day the Superfecta is a $1.00 minimum wager. Trifecta, Pick-3, Pick-4 and Pick-5 wagers are $.50 minimum straight bets. The Pick-6 is a $2 minimum wager. The Exacta is a $2.00 minimum straight bet with $1.00 boxes and wheels."

I'll be blogging both cards here Friday and Saturday. And tonight I'm doing a live chat at drf.com -- http://www.drf.com/events/kentucky-derby-chats -- from 7 to 8 p.m.


Carl More than 1 year ago
Steve...no $.50 min @ NYRA Rewards wagering?... [No, you can bet those at 50 cents according to MY NYRA Rewards menu. -SC]
jerry More than 1 year ago
Now that Mo has been officially scratched, the REAL handicapping can begin. Cant imagine all the NBC pre race footage that was wasted on him. Thought the 5/6 card was tough; 5/7 is tougher still! Gonna be a LONG 2 days and nights of handicapping. Good luck to all and safe trips to the participants. Swagger Jack in 10th today is not the worst 50-1 to take a shot with.
MICHAEL GRIFFITHS More than 1 year ago
It seem to me that the people who set the track's betting menu are not bettors. They set the Pick-6 @$2 but set the Pick-5 & Pick-4 @ $0.50, why are they so hang up on maintaining the Pick-6 at this price? [Carryovers. -SC]
douglas More than 1 year ago
How Pletcher keeps getting away with questionable moves is quite amazing. Somehow, the man who should know Life At Ten inside and out, walks away like Teflon after she costs gamblers millions upon millions of dollars. Now, knowing the horse was ALREADY sick two days ago, he enters the horse darn well knowing he's going to scratch and precluding another owner/trainer from living their dream. Ffor some reason it slides right off. What would the outcry be if Dutrow had pulled this stunt?
Walt P. More than 1 year ago
I believe the reason there are no dime supers at Churchill is because their tote system does not allow for dime wagers if there are multi-day wagers (as in addition to the Oaks-Derby double and P3 with the Woodford Reserve, the future pools are all paid out over the two days as well). Perhaps it's something that can't be fixed so easy and that's why they never have changed it. Also I also this Derby will mark the end of an era with the Derby contested in daylight. Had the Comcast-NBC merger been completed sooner, I suspect this year's Derby would have been at night, and I suspect we are headed that way with both the Oaks and Derby in 2012. If that happens, to me the likely scenario is the Oaks moves to NBC in a one-hour broadcast from 10:00-11:00 PM ET (Oaks post 10:40 PM ET) that includes a Derby preview while the Derby (and Woodford Reserve) airs from 7:00-10:00 PM ET with post for the Derby at 9:30 PM ET. NBC I would suspect would want that so the rating from the Derby would qualify for the prime time numbers during the "May Sweeps," while Churchill also would be looking at the potential for hundreds of millions in new handle from the Asia-Pacific region (where it would be Saturday for the Oaks and Sunday for the Derby).
art More than 1 year ago
It's 7;30 pm and I can't take any more of your chat. If you were in NH I'd buy you a 'double' like I'm about to have. I know you'll need one by 8pm. Love the editing of those complaining until one complaint called the posters 'bozos'. Look forward to your uninterupted blog the next 2 days. Art
jerry More than 1 year ago
The 5/6 card at Churchill is a real puzzler. Large, competitive fields. No standouts should make for some good payouts. If weather holds it should be a good couple of days. Good luck to all.
cigarvacation More than 1 year ago
Steve, Long time blog follower of yours but in fairness I have been missing in action for quite a while. Can't tell you how disappointing your chat was on Thursday night. Can you guys go back to the old format where you , Beyer, and usually someone else chatted on a Tuesday to Thursday format? I had to log out cause it was just getting obnoxious and was thoroughly disorganized. The old format was moderated and was fairly organized. The decision to switch allowing people to chime in on twitter, facebook, e-mail, etc. was, to put it kindly, poor at best. Also back in the day the chats were advertised on your main page well in advance. I had an extremely difficult time determining if there even was a chat this year. I understand change is good but in this situation someone at DRF was a little overzealous in using ALL of todays communication technology. Very poorly advertised and executed. Still enjoy your blog immensely especially from the Spa in the times I haven't been able to make it up there.
Tom More than 1 year ago
I couldn't agree more with you. The format of this years chat was just terrible. I didn't enjoy them at all. Tough to follow. to many comments flying from all over the place. I had no idea what question or comment was being answered. Very disappointing. I used love reading the chats leading up to the derby and would look for the time they would be on but as this poster mentioned there was no notice of the times and guests of the chats.
Johnny Bwell More than 1 year ago
Mr. Crist, I haven't seen it advertised. Do you know if Churchill Downs is offering guaranteed pools for any multi-race wagers? Thanks, JB [I've seen no mention of it either. For a sense of what to expect: Last year, the p-4 ending eith the Derby handled $1.99 million and the pick-6 ending with the Derby (with a carry from Oaks Day) handled $1.30 million. -SC ]
Real1Quiet More than 1 year ago
Let's do this again, 2011 edition! Handle is handle, and everyone benefits when more money is in the superfecta pool, even at a dime per combination.