07/08/2009 1:20PM

Medication: RSVP/ Part 4


An email to drf.com members soliciting additional comments on the medication thread went out Monday evening and has already attracted over 100 new comments. The comment section on Part 3 is now closed, so please use this post to continue the discussion.

Denny Crane More than 1 year ago
"Make it mandatory that the sire and dam of a runner in The Triple Crown pursuit must have run for at least five years." Granted, Steve, this might be the most LaLa Land, out-of-touch with reality comment of all 400-plus on here, but I submit to you it's the rule rather than the exception... If this is indicative of the intellectual level of our sport's current "average man," it's staggering to contemplate the depths to which this great game has fallen.
BobWest More than 1 year ago
WOW great topic...Drugs have become the industries greatest problem...Racing needs a czar and one set of medication rules and severe penalties for violations
OUCH, BABE! More than 1 year ago
Hey Steve, I wonder what’s to make of this little conundrum. I did some checking. To the best of my count, so far 156 women have responded to your post. 154 -- or a whopping 99.8 percent – think administering drugs to a thoroughbred race horse is inhumane, and summarily should be banned. However, none – not a single one – even mentions the term "geld;" i.e., the routine act of lobbing-off a male race horse's reproductive organs. So, let’s recap, shall we? Drugs: inhumane. Gelding: priceless!
The Old Hozer to Sydney More than 1 year ago
"When one of my pack mules is injured or in pain, I rest that animal until it's better." Apples to oranges!!!!! Tell me, Ms. Syd, what does the average pack mule cost these days? And what might his per diem be when he's "resting?" Madam, you are the Poster Queen for the 300+ pie-in-the-sky "hay and oats" advocates on here who have no conception of the economic modalities of the modern game. Modalities that took decades to evolve, and will take decades to unravel, even by the best and brightest minds in a sport universally regaled instead for its Confederacy of Dunces, of which the Hay-and-Oats Brigade are charter members, since that suggestion is akin to throwing-out the baby with the bathwater. If there is a long-term solution to this problem that doesn't end the sport as we know it in the process, basic common sense dictates its starting point can only be moderation.
Sydney More than 1 year ago
To Theo L. Hozer: I'll gladly address the alleged dichotomy. First, you're trying to compare apples and oranges. I have non-prescription nsaids in my medicine cabinet for when I, a human, can make the choice for myself to take them. I also train animals for use in pack/draft work including horses, mules, oxen and even goats. When one of my trainees is injured or in pain, I rest that animal until it's better. Yes, I will give it pain meds but only to keep it comfortable while it's resting. I have never and would never give an animal pain meds to keep it working or in training. The people here are predominantly complaining about the ABUSE of painkillers and other drugs in racehorses. And giving an animal painkillers to keep it working/training or racing is abuse.
FLAJJJ More than 1 year ago
Steve, I grew up in NY, at one time lived about a 1/4 mile from Belmont in Floral Park and through the 60's 70's & early 80"s spent most weekends, holidays & vacvations at either teh Big A, Belmont & 1 week a year at Saratoga. During the 80's I moved to Tampa (business reasons) and spent most weekends for 20+ years at Tampa Bay Downs (live & simulcast) occassionaly visiting other tracks. I have been to 30+ Belmont races, 8 Breeders Cup events (Hollywood, Lone Star, NY and most recently MonMouth) -- this wasn't to bore you but to show you a substantial love of the game and for betting the game.---- However I quit last year after reading of Dutrow saying he won betting on Big Brown in the Fla Derby and then reading where he was getting steroids....I felt like I was being cheated & conned by the insiders... so I quit betting -- If racing can't keep the game honest, I won't bet on it. If all I want is a game of chance, I'll play a slot machine. ---The horses are great athletes-- the people are either cheating or enabling an environment for cheating -- Oats, Hay & Water only. If racing can't keep a loyal fan like me because of a fair betting environment, how can they hope to attract/keep new fans DO SOMETHING TO FIX THIS
Big Bear More than 1 year ago
We can't return to the 'good old days' and Thank God For That. All athletes, man, dog, & horse take drugs. Doctors should be the only people that determine what is acceptable and what should be banned. Then go to the NFL model of inforcement and no prolonged inforcement of the penalty and the penalty should increase with each violation. Until this type of plan is put in place, We will have every type of attempt to use a PED from the most advanced masking drug to a homemade salve made in the Ozarks or Dominican Republic or anyplace else that a person with some knowledge thinks they can create the 'miracle drug'.
Bud Pettingill More than 1 year ago
Steve, if there's one thing this 400+ comment blog has exposed it's the staggering percentage of regular players in this sport who are cosmically ill-informed on the drug issue, the proof of which is the almost universal lack of distinction between therapeutic medications and performance enhancing drugs. Frankly, I'm astonished. And how can that be? How can so many seemingly intelligent people believe that a pain killer like mepivacaine, or even a NSAID as notorious as cobra venom, can make a horse run faster? How is that possible when simple, basic common sense screams that shooting that same stuff in my ankles and knees ... or yours ... won't make either of us run the 100 a 1/5th of a second faster? Only steroids and HGH can make a us run faster, because those are the two substances currently known that build muscle mass, and muscle mass ultimately is what determines speed. Even the most screamingly illegal substances like meth, cocaine, and clanbuterol can't make a horse run faster. They're banned as "performance enhancers" -- and rightfully so -- because they make horses carry their natural speed for longer distances. Yet, with overwhelming consistency among these 400 commentors -- and I've read them all -- the term "drugs" is used as a catch-all for performance ehancers, when that simply is not the case. How do you solve a problem, Steve, when 90% of your target audience doesn't even understand the basic, fundamental precepts of that problem? You don't need to give a "speech." You need to give a "lecture!" And I might suggest you start here ... in the trenches ... with your own constituents ... before tackling The Jockey Club!
Sheila M. O'Callaghan More than 1 year ago
Make it mandatory that the sire and dam of a runner in The Triple Crown pursuit must have run for at least five years. That would eliminate horses on drugs because only a healthy horse can withstand many years of racing. This would also bring fans back to the track because you could follow a horse instead of just seeing a horse run a few times and then loose your pal to the breeding ground.
Stanley Marcinkowski More than 1 year ago
sOME TRAINERS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE. Last year i had a filly that I purchsed July tenth. She had run July 4th. From July 20th til Oct 25th I did not receive a single call from the trainer! Twenty six days after purchase, trainer entered her for half of purchase price-did not call me. He never called me to view workouts, jogs. I never seen her on track, never seen her on hotwalker, never seen her being shedrowed. I was never told address of farm she was relocated to on July 22. When Penn National was closed down Sept 20 for resurfacing she was relocated onto racetrack property where she could not train. For her race Sept 18 she came into paddock all washed out-I recently found out trainer spreading word filly was not treated with pre race meds because vet refused due to balance on bill. There was no balance on bill.