11/02/2009 5:47PM

Lots to cover


Also, with the return to Aqu, I was wondering if you could post some old pp's of some of these warriors: Engine One, Kings Swan, Moro and More to Tell?

Here are the past performances.

Download Big A Warriors

On November 12, 1990, I learned a major lession in racetrack humility.  The feature race at the Big A was a $50,000 starter handicap at 1 1/8 miles, and I absolutely loved Joker's Farce, a four-year-old trained by Wayne Lukas.  It was a good field that included Farewell Wave, the third-place finisher of the previous season's Discovery Handicap, but the major attraction (at least from a fan standpoint) was the dean of the local handicap division.  King's Swan was making his 106th lifetime start, and was four years removed from his Grade 1 victory in the Vosburgh Stakes.  In the interim, "The King" had won graded races like the Boojum, Westchester, Aqueduct, Assault (twice), Stymie, Bold Ruler, Tom Fool, and Grey Lag.  Now, at the ripe old age of ten, it looked like King's Swan was getting long in the tooth.  He had lost seven in a row, and Joker's Farce was an in-form youngster. 
I bet the new kid on the block, and began to head for the windows in midstretch when Joker's Farce collared and passed King's Swan.  Chuckling to myself as I counted the winnings in my head, I became disoriented as a huge booming cheer arose from the Aqueduct grandstand.  King's Swan was re-rallying.  The old man wouldn't lie down.  I raced back to the apron, but the sinking feeling in my stomach, the feeling of defeat, was extremely familiar.  It was the same feeling I endured when King's Swan beat back one of my favorite runners, Love That Mac, in 1986.  It was the same nausea I encountered when he wouldn't let Raja's Shark, another favorite, go past him that same year.  When King's Swan wanted to beat you, there was nothing one could do.  No amount of rooting or cheering was going to put Joker's Farce in the winner's circle.  So I kept my mouth shut, and watched in awe as the old-timer did what he loved - win - for the final time in his illustrious career.  The oldtimer shut up a cocky kid that afternoon, and he also shut up Joker's Farce.


Here are the lifetime past performances for the highest and lowest Beyer stakes performers of the week:

 Download Tribaldiva


Here's another question for you, Dan: Has anyone won the BC Juvy off a msw win, or off 1 start?

Let's take a look at the past Breeders' Cup Juvenile winners, their number of races leading up to the BC, and their most recent prep start:

1984:  Chief's Crown - 8 prior races, won Norfolk (1 1/16 miles, Santa Anita)
1985:  Tasso -  6 prior races, won Breeders' Futurity (1 1/16 miles, Keeneland)
1986:  Capote - 3 prior races, won Norfolk
1987:  Success Express - 6 prior races, fourth Norfolk
1988:  Is It True - 5 prior races, second Champagne (1 mile, Belmont)
1989:  Rhythm - 4 prior races, second Champagne
1990:  Fly So Free - 5 prior races, won Champagne
1991:  Arazi - 7 prior races, won Grand Criterium (About 1 mile on turf, Longchamp)
1992:  Gilded Time - 3 prior races, won Arlington-Washington Futurity (1 mile, Arlington)
1993:  Brocco - 2 prior races, won 'n1x' allowance (7 furlongs, Santa Anita)
1994:  Timber Country - 6 prior races, won Champagne (1 1/16 miles, Belmont)
1995:  Unbridled's Song - 2 prior starts, fourth Champagne
1996:  Boston Harbor - 6 prior races, won Breeders' Futurity
1997:  Favorite Trick - 6 prior races, won Breeders' Futurity
1998:  Answer Lively - 6 prior races, second Breeders' Futurity
1999:  Anees - 3 prior races, third Norfolk
2000:  Macho Uno - 3 prior races, won Grey Breeders' Cup (1 1/16 miles, Woodbine)
2001:  Johannesburg - 6 prior races, won Middle Park Stakes (6 furlongs on turf , Newmarket)
2002:  Vindication - 3 prior races, won Kentucky Cup Juvenile (1 1/16 miles, Turfway)
2003:  Action This Day- 2 prior races, won maiden special weight (1 1/16 miles, Santa Anita)
2004:  Wilko - 10 prior races, third Royal Lodge (1 mile on turf, Ascot)
2005:  Stevie Wonderboy- 4 prior races, won Del Mar Futurity (7 furlongs, Del Mar)
2006:  Street Sense - 4 prior races, third Breeders' Futurity (1 1/16 miles on polytrack, Keeneland)
2007:  War Pass - 3 prior races, won Champagne (1 mile, Belmont)
2008:  Midshipman - 3 prior races, second Norfolk (1 1/16 miles, Pro-Ride, Santa Anita)


Speaking of nice 2yo fillies, I was at Keeneland Friday and saw a very impressive 2yo filly named Protesting break her maiden for Shug McGaughey.  Check out the replay of the race. I don't know what kind of Beyer she got, but she won easily in her 2 turn debut despite some trouble and drew off to beat a nice field of 2yr olds.

Could you post the winning Beyer for SWEET SOPHIA on 10/25 at Santa Anita? I had been waiting for her to start and cashed on this debut win which I thought was very impressive.

Protesting, a three-quarter sister to Grade 2 winner Parading, earned a 69 Beyer Speed Figure after winning her maiden by five lengths going nine furlongs on Keeneland's polytrack on October 23.

Sweet Sophia, a $150,000 half-sister to Grade 3 winner Fight for Ally by Smarty Jones, received a 72 Beyer Speed Figure for her debut score going down the hill at Santa Anita. 


Where on the DRF website will I be able to find an analysis
of the workouts leading up to the Breeder's Cup? If the DRF is going to offer this, will it be in the October 29Th paper edition? Who will be doing it?
chicago gerry

Mike Welsch will be heading the DRF clockers.  You can find the analysis by clicking the following link:



Could someone post a list of tracks that run a 1 turn mile?? Dirt and Turf please. I like to know for breeders cup handicapping.

The list of one turn miles stands as such:
--Arlington Park (poly only)
--Aqueduct (main/outer dirt track only)
--Belmont Park (dirt course and to an extent, Widener Turf.)
--Churchill Downs (dirt only)
--Colonial Downs (dirt only)
--Gulfstream Park (dirt only)
--Laurel Park (dirt only)
--Woodbine (turf only)


Thanks for the heads-up on the future stars.  Gotta love the Stormy Atlantics, such an underrated sire.  A few pp request for you; I'm interested in Midwest mares Heatherten and Sefa's Beauty, and also Sham and Eillo.  Thanks in advance, very much appreciated!

Here they are minus Sham (he's a bit too old for our database):

Download Eillo

Download Midwesterners


What does 2000/1000 Guineas mean and why do multiple tracks have a race by that name?
Captain Bodgit

The Guinea was a coin. 2000/1000 Guineas was the purse or winner's take of those races when they started, which was a very, very long time ago. The name stuck.


I've been looking all over the internet trying to find 2010 racing dates for Paris and London area tracks. I'm going over in April and have no idea what, if anything, will be going on. I'd like to check out a couple of tracks around Paris or London but can't find what would be running. Do you know where I could find this?

Check out this website for race dates in Britain. 


I'm still trying to find some more information for French racing.  You might want to look at this sight for more information:



Seing a new thing in DFR's pp's now.  A claiming race will look like this in the running lines Clm 30,000(30,000-25,000)B.  What does the "B" stand for?
Captain Bodgit

The 'B' refers to a beaten claimer.  An example of a beaten claimer would be "for three-year-olds, or for four-year-olds and upward that have never won two races."  In this case, a three-year-old with 20 wins (or any amount of wins) would be eligible to face 'n2L' older runners.


Hi, lots of great reading here i see, but someone led me in this direction so i may possibly find out some info on a mare from late 70's early 80s named  End Of The Rainbow who raced @ waterford park. my kids recently purchased me a winners photo of her from jan 1979 thats now on my wall so we were interested in finding out whatever we can about her. what we know is she raced 55 times w/ 7 winners and was bred to 2x. any additional info will be greatly appreciated by my herd and i. thanks for your time!
Richard Omack

Here are the past performances for End of the Rainbow:

Download End of the Rainbow

Here are the past performances of her foals:

Download Rainbow Foals


Ok here is another question..lets say a long shot wins the Classic (and RA never exsisted)..who is your HOY then based off the accomplshments of the year? Would you give it to Gio Ponti?, Einstein?, Careless Jewel (with a win), ....or someone else?

If Gio Ponti didn't disgrace himself in defeat, I'd probably give it to him. Four Grade 1 victories over a wide array of distances and surfaces would sway me.  But it would be very close with Summer Bird, Zenyatta, and Careless Jewel (with a win in the Ladies Classic).  Of course, this is in the case that Rachel didn't exist.


could you post the BC Beyers fromlastyear at SA?
chase clements

Classic:  Raven's Pass - 110
FM Turf:  Forever Together - 105
Juvenile:  Midshipman - 91
Juvenile Fillies:  Stardom Bound - 94
Ladies Classic:  Zenyatta - 103
Mile:  Goldikova - 107
Sprint:  Midnight Lute - 112
Turf:  Conduit - 116
Marathon:  Muhannak - 100
FM Sprint:  Ventura - 105
Dirt Mile:  Albertus Maximus - 102
Juvenile Turf:  Donativum - 93
Juvenile Fillies Turf:  Maram - 87
Turf Sprint:  Desert Code - 101

Congrats to Van Savant for finishing first in last week's HandiGambling exercise.  This week's race will be the Breeders' Cup Classic.