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There are 17 weeks until the Kentucky Derby. That, real racing fans know, is two lifetimes. Nevertheless, the Wynn Race and Sports Book in Las Vegas has been issuing future book odds for the 2013 Derby for a while now. And since there are two graded stakes for 3-year-olds on Saturday (the Grade 2 Jerome at Aqueduct and the Grade 3 Sham at Santa Anita), it might be timely to check in on Wynn’s latest odds update.
I doubt many will be surprised that Shanghai Bobby, who is a mortal lock to be voted champion 2-year-old male of 2012, is not Wynn's future book Derby favorite. Shanghai Bobby is an undefeated (he’s 5 for 5) Breeders’ Cup Juvenile winner, and yet you can’t turn around without bumping into someone who is a disbeliever. That’s understandable. Although Shanghai Bobby was game prevailing in the Juvenile in his first start around two turns after contesting a fast pace, he walked home, and was carried by a speed-favoring track. In any case, Wynn currently has Shanghai Bobby as its third choice at 18-1.
Wynn’s current Derby favorite at 12-1 is Violence, who is also undefeated, and who, like Shanghai Bobby, is trained by Todd Pletcher. In truth, Violence is fortunate to be 3 for 3. He could have been disqualified from first in the Nashua Stakes after coming in through the stretch and racking up three opponents to his inside. But Violence was good winning the CashCall Futurity in his last start, and he looks like a genuine two turn horse.
Second choice between Violence and Shanghai Bobby at 14-1 is Uncaptured. Uncaptured improved his record to 6 for 7 (and 2 for 2 on dirt) when he won the mysteriously slow Kentucky Jockey Club in his 2-year-old finale. But it is certainly worth noting that Uncaptured previously dominated the Iroquois Stakes, meaning he swept Churchill Downs’s two big late-season main track 2-year-old stakes.
Keeping in mind that their odds reflect actual action taken, Wynn currently has 15 horses at 40-1 or less in its future book Derby odds. Here they are:
Violence 12-1
Uncaptured 14-1
Shanghai Bobby 18-1
Frac Daddy 22-1
Flashback 25-1
Goldencents 25-1
Normandy Invasion 25-1
Overanalyze 30-1
Archwarrior 35-1
Capo Bastone 35-1
Power Broker 35-1
He’s Had Enough 40-1
Palace Malice 40-1
Purple Egg 40-1
War Academy 40-1
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Watch out for Let'em Shine... 2d race Santa Anita..Jan 19th
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My buddy had I'll Have Another last year before he won the San Vicente at 150-1. So sometimes it's worth taking a shot.
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Violence has to be one of the worst names ever given to a racehorse. Why would they even allow a name with such a negative connotation?
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Posted a comment earlier this morning but i guess it got x-ed out Anyway do you have the site with the current odds for the horses not listed here ?
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I could not find the odds from wynn race and sports book but blogs.courier-journal.com has them . I know its so early, but if you are going to play and have an inkling, now is the time to do it if you have a connection in vegas to place the bet
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Good chance not one of these will be in the starting gate. Cant believe anyone would play any horse at less than 100-1. I would not take 12-1 on Violence to show in the Derby, heck chances are 90% he wont even make the race.
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Think this years winner comes out of the clouds. Keeping an eye on Oaklawn and Tampa Bay prep on a hunch...nothing more.
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Each one of one those plays is a complete sucker bet.
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i was lucky enough or dumb enough to put $20 to win on Giacomo after his Hollywood Park race at end of his 2 year old season. of course, he went off at longer odds at derby.
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Based on recent history the Pletcher horses are bad investments. You have to predict who can get in the gate.
I'd also recommend staying away from these wagers because no one truly knows how to accumulate enough points to get in the gate.
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