06/19/2013 3:10PM

Latest BC Classic Future Book Odds


I don’t want to rush the summer, which technically isn’t even here yet. It is my favorite season, and there is a lot to look forward to this summer, highlighted by a potentially division-defining matchup in the Travers, a suddenly vibrant handicap division, the continued exploits of Horse of the Year Wise Dan, and 2-year-old racing, to name just a few things. But the sharp folks at the Race and Sports Book at Wynn Las Vegas have issued updated future book odds on a few Breeders’ Cup races, led, of course by Classic. And these Classic future odds are worth noting.

The reason why this particular odds update on the Classic is noteworthy is that it was issued after the racing of last weekend. That means these odds reflect not only both action at and/or positions taken by Wynn post-Triple Crown, but also after last weekend’s Foster Handicap, the successful return of Paynter, and the unsuccessful return of Royal Delta.

Wynn currently has 14 horses listed at 20-1 or under for the Breeders’ Cup Classic. They, and their odds, are:


Game On Dude


Fort Larned


Cigar Street






Royal Delta


Clubhouse Ride


Flat Out




Ron the Greek


Cross Traffic


Mucho Macho Man




Wise Dan



A few thoughts I had on these prices were: Wow, that is a seriously low price on Game On Dude, and that is quite a gap between him and Fort Larned, who is now back in his Breeders’ Cup Classic winning form. I expect that gap to close quickly, if it hasn’t already … I understand his immense potential, and I like him as a horse, but I’m surprised Verrazano is the lowest priced 3-year-old. Is that merely a function of his successful return just last Sunday in the Pegasus, or does it also contain a bit of contempt for the Triple Crown 3-year-olds? … Royal Delta has to blow out from that number. By the way, Royal Delta is currently Wynn’s lukewarm and narrow favorite for the Ladies’ Classic at 6-1, with Dreaming of Julia, who races Saturday in the Mother Goose, at 7-1 … I know it’s hard to back a horse for the Classic who so far has won only an allowance race this year, but that might be the biggest price we’ll see on Paynter from here on out … Wise Dan is that big a price because (perhaps correctly) no one thinks he’ll run in the Classic.

Two who were listed higher than 20-1 who I think are worth mentioning are Preakness winner Oxbow and Belmont Stakes winner Palace Malice. Palace Malice is 25-1 and Oxbow is 35-1, and it’s surprising how significantly higher they are right now than Kentucky Derby winner Orb, who is 15-1. I would have thought Oxbow would be the lowest price of these three not only because of his Triple Crown efforts, but also because you know he will be in the Classic if he is able.

D'Funnybone More than 1 year ago
Clubhouse Ride, who has finished 2nd to Game on Dude multiple times this year, might be the best value on this list considering his generous odds.
Mark Moran More than 1 year ago
Normandy Invasion is the best 3yo, by far. Mucho Macho Man's odds are enticing off his close second last year.
D'Funnybone More than 1 year ago
Am I incorrect in thinking that Normandy Invasion is still eligible for a NW1X allowance condition? If so, it is crazy for someone to think that he is the best 3yo at this time. He has potential, but he must show it on the track.
Mark More than 1 year ago
Verrazano on that track @S.A. ! Hard and fast ! Think he would just cruzzzzz . Hope to see them all in the gate .
Neil Granowitz More than 1 year ago
Right now everything is up for grabs. Dude has to work out a classic summer fall schedule and Larned has to do his thing on the east coast at handicaps run at Saratoga and Belmont. He could use the Whitney or the Woodwad as summer preps and use the Jockey Club as a public workout/tune up for the Classic. History shows us that if you do not "use up" your horse in the JCGC you can do well in the Classic. The 3 year olds are the wild cards with Oxbow and Palace Malace having good future odds today. I want to see which 3 year old, other than Verranzano runs in the Haskell, and let's not forget Normandy Invasion, since he went directly to Saratoga (and did not pass Go in this Monopoly game LOL) his odds might be a value play. So even though I will not have a future bet in Vegas, I will be there for Breeders Cup and since the field will most likely be mudddled a great price other than Dude will be available at Post time One sure bet and I know they will not give odds on this is Wise Dan will not run in the Classic. If I could get even money on that future I would bet the farm.
Rob Yetman More than 1 year ago
Need to have a look at Declaration of War, who beat Animal Kingdom at Ascot. Has a dirt pedigree, War Front x Tempo West. The dam is a half to Union Rags. Coolmore love to have a go at the Breeders' Cup Classic.
Went Down On Nell Carter More than 1 year ago
A lot of horses beat Animal Kingdom at Ascot.
Albert More than 1 year ago
Of course you really have to wait to see who comes into that race in their better form, but assuming that all were in peak form at the same time you can pretty much throw out Game on Dude. He won't hit the board against this bunch either. His numbers are just not that good....his races look good, but they are generally on the lead and there is never any ground loss. He couldn't keep up with Ft Larned last year and he won't keep up with him this year --- all things being equal. The new shooters Graydar and Orb, at peak form, will cook him too.
Ann Ferland More than 1 year ago
Numbers, numbers, numbers. I'm been sick of people relying more on numbers than what they see with their eyes. So Uncle Mo ran a huge number on a sloppy, one-turn mile in a small field at Belmont. I saw so many posts about how this made him a shoo-in in the BC Classic that I wanted to gag. I was gleeful to see that logic, not numbers, prevailed in the race itself. Beyer gave Dreaming of Julia an enormous number for a lengthy, bloodless win at Gulfstream and the world goes crazy about her - she's the best 3yo filly on the planet, she could beat the boys because she had a higher number, etc. Note that this is the same filly who was beaten in the BC Girl's Juvie by Beholder and had lost her 3yo debut. Sometimes a horse just gets the conditions, the track, and the field where it can look like a superstar. Quality Road in his Donn H, lone speed against a bunch of closers. Magna Graduate won by a pole in the Excelsior H (I think that was the one - it was in NY, anyway). One can't take that one remarkable performance as a horse's normal race. Even Secretariat never ran before or after as remarkably as he did in the Belmont. The changeover to AW tracks in SoCal messed up the Beyer numbers big time and they haven't yet gotten back to anything reasonable yet. At Santa Anita, with the musical surfaces, changing every year for 3-4 years, I guess they have an excuse. But still, when Gemologist got a better number for his slow Wood than I'll Have Another got for his fast SA Derby, one had to think something was wrong with the formulae.
zerosumzen More than 1 year ago
The only horse I'd take blindly, and future bets qualify as blind bets, is Paynter at 20/1. That's a sound investment. Baffert just said he's being pointed toward the BC Classic, so his price will likely have dropped already.
Kevin Smith More than 1 year ago
I don't think Wise Dan would be entered in the classic, but neither will alot of these horses. But should he really be 20-1? Especially if Verrazano is 12-1.
Ann Ferland More than 1 year ago
Neither Wise Dan nor Verrazano is likely to run in the Classic because of stamina limitations. Although that didn't keep Pletcher from running Uncle Mo in the Classic...,
Perl More than 1 year ago
I think they are factoring in that he probably won't run in those 20-1 odds.
Ronald Dodgen More than 1 year ago
I disagree about the Classic pace been overly fast, how often do you see a two turn pace faster than 110: 2/5 and that's nothing special.
Jordan More than 1 year ago
No fear about shipping West for Lukas. Orb running at Santa Anita is much more dubious. Excellent point Mike. Also think Game on Dude and Fort Larned should be much closer. But the Game on Dude with Bejarano that Fort Larned saw in last year's Classic is not the same horse he'll see with Mikey up if they meet this year. If Game on Dude, Fort Larned, Oxbow, and either Graydar or Cross Traffic from Pletcher make the Classic, it will be hard for any of them to win. Talk about pace!
Ann Ferland More than 1 year ago
I thought Graydar was on the injured list? Typical Unbridled's Song, a couple brilliant races then off to the clinic.
Perl More than 1 year ago
There's no reason Orb can't run at SA. If the pace is fast enough the closers will close, as long as SA track management does a better job of making the strip a fair one. Yes speed usually holds but if that many speedsters go, a freshened Orb would be dangerous.
MJP More than 1 year ago
I think FL is much faster than Dude and he will always run Dude off his feet. Oxbow has nowhere near the speed of FL. That only leaves Cross Traffic. Now that matchup could be interesting (reportedly we may see it in the Whitney). CT is very lightly raced, will be interesting to see how he handles 9 furlongs and that would determine whether he's put on a path to the Classic, Sprint or even Mile.
Ann Ferland More than 1 year ago
Cross Traffic? The one-turn miler who couldn't hold on to win the Met Mile? The one out of the G1 sprinter Stop Traffic? Think he will last more than a race or so more this season? Another of those Unbridled's Song, you know.
Big Jeff More than 1 year ago
apparently you did not watch the Met Mile.
Ann Ferland More than 1 year ago
I saw him run down by a horse whose best previous races were sprints.
mary More than 1 year ago
GRAYDAR is a unbridled song and can run all day!! Get out of here clown