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Thursday's HandiGambling 269 exercise is the eighth race at Gulfstream Park, a $50,000 maiden claimer at 5 1/2 furlongs for 3-year-old fillies.
Remember that you have a mythical $100 with which to wager on the race, and the entrant with the highest money total will receive a "Monthly Enhanced 60-Card Past Performance Plan."
Anyone going over the $100 limit will be disqualified.
Please post your plays and analysis to the blog.
Please separate the play from the analysis and label the play "HG" with the program numbers instead of the names of the horses.
Past performances are available at the previous blog post.
In the event of a tie, the earliest post gets first preference.
One entry per person please.
I reserve the right to approve or deny any entries.
I know that there is a time issue for some of you, but let's remember why we began the HandiGambling races in the first place. The goal was to share ideas on why we like these horses, and why we're betting them the way we are. I'm not asking for a novel, but if you could spare a sentence or two outlining your handicapping angles and thought processes about wagering, it would be appreciated.
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The track is FAST.
Let's scratch #1A - CHAMBORD CASTLE, #3 SABRE THE LIGHT and #4 DOT THOSE EYES.
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I don't really have a very strong handle on this race and won't be playing it with real money. For HandiGambling, I narrowed it down to four main contenders.
#6 SO VOGUE is a first-time starter by Seeking the Best, a graded winner on dirt in Japan (more of a sprinter/miler type) that is 1-18 with debut runners. The unraced dam has foaled one winner (on turf) from one prior starter and is a half-sister to Grade 2-placed sprinter Mike's Classic and Grade 1 sprint winner Dublin. The second dam, Classy Mirage, won the prestigious Ballerina Stakes (G1) sprinting at Saratoga. So Vogue's trainer, Kirk Ziadie, clicks at a high rate, but isn't known for his prowess with first-time starters (0-8 over the past two years; 10-52, 19%, $1.83 ROI over the past five years). The thing that caught my eye with So Vogue was her gate workout on January 7 at Calder. Also working five furlongs in 1:04 that morning was Ziadie's Truly Distinctive, a 4-year-old colt that won a $10,000 'n3L' claimer under jockey Maynor Lopez five days later with a career-best 77 Beyer Speed Figure. So Vogue is certainly a stab play, but I'll give her shot in a race that I found very difficult to handicap.
#1 CASALINGA earned solid Moss Pace Figures (92 to first call) in her debut run on January 6, but she failed to put away 61-1 debutante Legalized and let that one come back to beat her by a half-length. The only horse to return from that race to run next-out on dirt was Starship Made It, who graduated for $12,500 at Tampa Bay Downs with a 55 Beyer. Casalinga has high speed, but will have to deal with #2 DONATE to her inside and is stepping up in class. Also, her rider, Jose Lopez, has won with only one of his last 94 mounts in North America. We'll know Casalinga early and she should be a strong factor if she runs back to her debut Beyer of 69. Her dam, the multiple sprint winner Never Out, placed in the Grade 2 Alcibiades Stakes at 1 1/16 miles.
#8 STARSHIP SABRINA, a $30,000 buyback as a yearling and a $47,000 buyback as a juvenile, may benefit most if Casalinga and Donate hook up in the early going. In her first start for a tag, Starship Sabrina outfinished a tiring Donate when second on New Year's Day (that race produced next-out winner Wild Country Song, who scored for $25,000 at Gulfstream with a 65 Beyer). She boasts competitive Beyers and should be charging in the stretch for trainer Steve Dwoskin. Count her out at your own risk.
When #2 DONATE breaks well, she is very fast out of the gate as evidenced by the 100 Moss Pace Rating for the first call of her debut last year at Churchill Downs. She also broke sharply two starts back, but couldn't fend off the late rally of Starship Sabrina. We know Donate is quick, but she hasn't shown much stamina to date, losing ground from the stretch call to the wire in all of her starts. She is a half-sister to stakes-winning sprinter One Star, a filly that won the OBS Sprint over safetrack footing.
As for the others:
#9 GREAT CHANCE, out of juvenile stakes-winning sprinter Marsheslew (won the $100,000 Bassinet Stakes going six furlongs at River Downs), adds blinkers after chasing the pace in her career debut. A $28,000 summer yearling buyback that sold for $4,000 that October, She'll have to improve about five lengths on Starship Sabrina in order to win this for trainer Jose Pinchin.
#5 EMMA'S ENCORE is a half-sister to stakes-placed juvenile Bertha Jo (6-37, 112K, ran third in the $118,000 Barretts Debutante going 6 1/2 furlongs at Fairplex). She'll make her first start for the legendary Allen Jerkens after missing the break against maiden special weights at Keeneland (a race that produced next-out turf winner Callmenancy; 69 Beyer). Her only start on dirt was against recent stakes-winner Devious Intent so she should certainly appreciate the class relief presented to her today.
#10 WHY SHOULD I has some angles in her corner as she drops in for a claiming tag for the first time while also utilizing the turf-to-dirt move. That maiden race on dirt didn't produce much, however, as all five of the horses that returned to race finished off the board in their next outings. Why Should I must avoid being hung out wide with a short run to the turn.
#7 UNION BOSS is by Dixie Union (48-432, 11% with debut runners) out of the multiple stakes-winning sprinter Capitol View (12-41, 447K), a mare that has foaled three winners from as many starters. There is an 18-day gap in the work tab and the barn is 0-21 with debut runners over the past four years. Union Boss sold for $160,000 as a yearling, was bought back for $145,000 in March of 2011 and was purchased for $50,000 last May.
#11 COSMIC ENERGY, a $22,000 yearling, is by Grade 2 route winner Unbridled Energy (3-68, 4% with debut runners) out of sprint winner Cosmic Secrets (3-52, 55K). The dam has foaled three winners from four runners and is a half-sister to Grade 3 route winner Wildly Special. Trainer Tim Hills is 0-23 over the past year with debut runners.
#12 MS. TIZNOW is by Tiznow (38-446, 9% with debut runners) out of sprint winner St Ballado's Image (1-10, 31K), a mare that has foaled no winners from two runners, but is a half-sister to multiple Grade 3 winner Halo's Image. The workouts fail to jump off the page and she'll have to overcome the far outside post.
Here's my HandiGambling stab:
$50 Win-Place - #6 SO VOGUE
Best of luck to all.
Curt V.,
Time has limited my participation in the blog, but you're like a damned broken record - it seems everytime I log in you have won the HG. Fantastic job.
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Grisham
Very nice hit in the HG with your $5 tri !!!
Dick W
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SR Vegas, meathead01,
I heard from the editor yesterday that EQUUS Magazine, the most popular general horse magazine in the US, is now slated to run an excerpt from HORSE PROFILING in their April issue.
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knm,
The Public Handicapper past performance deal is indeed a deal. The cheapest the classic PP's get is $1.80 each for the 240 card pack on a "normal" deal. So $1.30 per for 100 cards is a very nice discount. Here are all of the PP plans and prices:
http://www.drf.com/store/past-performances
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BSB
"one of the qualifiers at NHC saying that it cost him $3000 to qualify ..."
If I may, ( I am sure Alan will also comment ) I too, saw that comment at the MW Blog and thought...hmmm.
At previous NHC's when talking to contestants, they have shared how they got here. Some spend even more than that.
Alot of their monies go to covering travel expenses, or airfare to different tracks/locations that have the qualifiers. Some may hit 6-8 different citys , entrie fees, etc before they get qualified.
And that can add up quick.
Not all like the chances of playing online with so many entrys.
They judge their own 'risk and reward' depending on how well they think they will eventually do when they get here.
Hope that helps...
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Annie
yeah! FESTIVE SPIRIT has put me in a festive mood this weekend.
NOW, we just have to get your FORWARD MARCH going forward :)
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blackseabass,
I think that Chips All In could be competitive in the Robert B. Lewis but I don't know about the win:
http://classicchampionthoroughbreds.blogspot.com/2012/02/robert-b-lewis-stakes-racing-roundup.html
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Annie:
You are right so much information, so little time!. For me it boils to weighting the information properly, I don't do that well. The HG GP workouts were there for me and they were quick a few works back. You correctly noted that. The baggage I carry is coming from KY and Ellis Park in particular I never put much stock in morning times. They were typically not recorded properly or just flat misleading in the past. Plus all the little training centers, etc. I struggled with the integrity angle. Major circuits like SoCAl seem to do a better job of tracking it and getting them right. I do look at SoCal as being accurate. I suppose GP should fit in that category.
I usually dismiss first timers too quickly especially when the field was as untalented as that $50k MDN was. A new face made sense. Curt V nailed it. Not just yanking chains here but this Form Blog crew is so talented. Definitely lots of grade one caliber handicappers. It is fun to just hang with the crowd. One of these days I may graduate to $10K MDN claimer level and move into ALW company.
Other - I mentioned a few weeks back that Incarnate Memories was reported to be a runner. Heard about her direct from the source 2 years back and then again pre BC leadup at KEE. She finally surfaced and the Western KY boys hammered her to 3-5 despite Larry Jones 1-35 record in that category. Thankfully 3-5 is not something I do plus I swore off barn steam for their first start in my resolutions. She ran flat but I will be shocked if she does not have some major 'run" to her. Like I said the first hand information she can run is probably accurate whether she wins first out was not part of the information. Marcus Hersch chose to highlight her in his FG recap. I suspect 5-2 next time and maybe the turf although at FG a heavy dew is all is takes for a week of wash offs.
Few interesting turfers to watch -(can't play today so they probably run well)
Bold Front at FG - bad trip last, think he shows more today. Attendant in same race has pedigree to move way up first turf maybe for unders.... More than Ready with Kingmambo mare. Two A sources of turf to me and sounds like a formula for a grass win soon assuming key equipment is intact.
Vasten at FG race 5 also shows turf move up pedigree IMO. Top/bottom grass and obligatory educational dirt run out of way. Amoss trainee so today we see if this one is anything.
Muscialdefinition at GP should turf (Bernstein/Theatrical mix). Mile in debut and rail means I watch hoping for slow break and sub par effort today with potential for payday next out at 40-1.
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Dan
A belated thanks for your 1st time gelded info. Star Navigator in the 2nd and Setsuko in the last @ SA are todays recipients of the biggest drop in racing.
MKB Clearly a Cowboy continues his rehab and we stopped by Mandella's barn to see what can happen even if you finish 2nd in both the SA Derby and Handicap and bring home almost 1/2 million dollars before age 5. Maybe a bit harsh on the youngster as he's in the back of his stall now muttering "just win, baby".
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Look! Mr. Hot Stuff goes in the 10th at SA today
No, wait. That's Setsuko. Nevermind.
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meathead01
..looks to me that you have handicapped some nice picks and nicer longshots today .
Well done & I hope you had $$ on them , Ca-ching!
Me Salty 10.00 win - I'll Have Another 88.60 / 35.80 / 12.00 - Tippity Tap Tap 22.00 win
- Ultimate Eagle 17.00 win ...
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Another plea for education please.
I still can't bet Santa Anita (I decided against an off-shore account), but I was looking at the Robert Lewis for interest. I watched the video preview this morning and (sorry Dan) was amazed not to hear the weights mentioned (or did I miss it).
Am I right in thinking there has been an 11 lb turnaround between Liaison and Rousing Sermon since Nov, and 5 lbs since Dec? I am not saying Rousing Sermon will win (both horses would be too short for my betting), but surely that weight change has to be a factor? How do US handicappers play significant weight variations?
In Europe, in 99% of cases an 11 lb turnaround for a head defeat (?) would be like buying money.
SR Vegas,
Congratulations on FESTIVE SPIRITS win. Did you bet him?
Annie,
Wow, another MKB winner. You can pick them. Do you keep a running tally? Have you ever thought of saving up all your betting money for 10 months and then just bet your MKB horses in Jan and Feb?
Best Regards - Bernard Downes
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Annie
"Actually, I am going to play a contest at Canterbury which starts tomorrow .."
Good Luck! One of the gals at my table ( Hello Kim! from Minnesota , if you are reading) qualifed for the NHC through Canterbury.
Go get 'em Annie!
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Bernard Downes
..No wager on my MKB Festive Spirit , but I was having a festive time on the Golf Course at the time the race was going off. With my RAH, TBTA, and her Hubby . Cold and windy morning turned out warm and glorious day!
Would that count as a 'winner' ? lol!
Keith L, Virgin Queen
I see yours previous MKB TAPIZAR, and PRAYER FOR RELIEF are going in the 200K Strub today at Santa Anita #9 ... and no trash talk ??
I'll throw in JAYCITO, as he has been on the HW and is working very nicely into this. Increasing distance, fast works combined with slows and a final 4F bullet blow out. Yep, I think he'll be on his toes :)
Good Luck to our MKB owners in the 200K Robert B Lewis, race #6 at Santa Anita !
I'll try to catch this live via calracing.com . I love to watch these young horses in the paddock and warm ups.
BSB
Beer Meister . Hmmm, I missed something ?
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Put it in the Kinky handicapping file. SRVegas & Annie (the rest of you bums fagedaboutit :-) Take a close look at Beermiester in the Strub . LOL. See what I mean ?? ;-) LOL. His connects are some real comedians,right ?
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Calvin Carter
That's great news and that will be a nice lead into the Kentucky Derby ...is that about the time you expect the book to me released ?
All the best :)
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A strange and possibly goofy question for Calvin , Laura or LSD .
I'm seeing two colts dropped by Squall Linda in 2009 . Groovin' Solo & Crafty John. Twins ?
I know it happens sometimes. Red Means Go / Green Means Stop or whatever their names were comes to my mind.
Is this a Typo or are they actually Twins ???
Thanks in advance if one of you knows the answer.
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lol:-)kculdoog,sojoerba,pwirahpogtslASpilfnioc,jimiginhctawer'ouyfi(-:
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Curt V ,
Again ?? ... way to go in HG !!
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MKB workouts :
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2/02/31
Gulfstream Park
Takes the Gold - 4F 0:48.40 Breezing - AnneM
Santa Anita - dirt/fast
Drill - 4F 0:49.20 Handily - Virgin Queen
Palm Meadows - dirt /fast
Right to Vote - 3F 0:35.60 Breezing - Tmonty ...A Bullet!
Palm Meadows -Turf (dogs up) /firm
Da Vinci - 5F 1:02.67 Breezing - Byanose
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2/03/12
Palm Meadows - dirt/fast
Souper Speedy - 4F 0:52.22 Breezing - Katieattherail
Stat - 5F 1:00.70 Handily - Blackseabass
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MKB Entries:
250K 1 1/16M Sam F Davis at Tampa Bay tomorrow
State of Play - owensized
Ecabroni - TAZ
Battled Hardened - Jeff T
http://www.drf.com/race-entries/TAM/USA/2012-02-04/D/11
Good Luck !
Now, off to the Golf Course ! It's Cold & Windy today, but TBTA & Hubby here from the 'Windy City' so they are used to it :)
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" i guess my only issue is that the*$130 deal*is still called the*$100 deal*."
when it comes 2 selling a product 2 horse players truth in advertizment takes a backseat.
btw, 9 out 10 horse players r probably telling their wifes 2 nite ( with a proud look on their face ) honey i was able 2 get the $100 plan for $130
VQ
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Curt V,
Are you getting the message yet? Another who needs to sign up for the NHC.
This pertains to most of you, because there are a whole bunch of horseplayers here who could have an impact on next years NHC. I will actually play the contest this year - probably because my wife watched this years NHC and called me a stronaching idiot for not being in the contest. Just off the top of my head I can come up with 20 names that belong there - Curt V? Van Savant? Annie? Cayman? Keith? Jonah? Laura? TBTA? BSB? Dick W? Ned Daly? NancyB? Caseyjeaux? Kelley Belles? Tencent? Pippen? Alfredo? Molesap? Blackstone? Mike A? There are probably three times that in reality.
Seriously, we need to make an all out assault on this thing. We took 20% of the top ten in 2012; I think 40% sounds even better for 2013.
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VQ,
Yes, you might say I am a Beyer "truffle hog"!
Blackseabass,
It is not cheap! I have averaged a little over ~$1800/yr in NHC contest expenses X 5 yrs, ranging from $175 min to $3400 max...and I didn't make it that year! Also, up until this year I had received $0 in NHC winnings! Luckily, since I have already qualified for next year, other than for my $50 yearly Tour fee I will have no other NHC contest expenses for 2012. (Note: I also play XpressBet contests like Dime-A-Day which have a $25 entry fee but have other non-NHC daily cash prizes, so I don't count those.)
Boy, was I lucky that the NHC was last Friday and not earlier today! I stunk today!
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ML at GP are so out of whack. Me thinks somebody around here talking to much about their A'S, B'S and C's ML system. They copped on to you. LOL.
Loose lips sinks pk 6.
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Curt V.
I guess we all get lucky now & then.....LOL.
Seriously.....great job on the hg, keep em coming.
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Annie, Thanks for the update on Bro Francis. He's at the top of my watch list on account of his problems in the Cash Call. More troubles than a peck of pessimists (say that 10 times real fast).
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Alan,{L.}>LoL........
I need to get this out 1st. I saw your comment on MW Frankestein's blog. Re:Dart Throwing..
When are these chalk happy players going to stop their mud slinging & luck comments you opined..& realize they are wrong ? Just be happy my man they keep playing. This way we keep hitting those longies...Handicapping ? I never heard of such a thing...LoL..Great job..Again.....They call it luck, I call it jealousy..They just can't do it.....
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HG GP Recap
Ten Cents please put me down for zero. I know ….you had that penciled in already before the gates opened.
1). This was a very difficult race as many including Dan pointed out.
2) Finally some proof that first time starters do win for trainers outside of Baffert and Pletcher. For years I studied families and breeding on maidens. What I ended up playing was a lot of horses who had good bloodlines but just were not winning their debuts. They usually ended up in the winner’s circle within a few races but were not there regularly on the debut day. That is why turf racing works better for me. They get the debut education trip out of the way on dirt and then move to a “go” trip on turf where the breeding angle works (for me). Generally, I tend to avoid debut types because of tardy gate breaks and trainer intentions. This one, out of Dixie Union, had license to win early and certainly the $50,000 tag was a good spot. Like Dan the gap in works concerned, the 0-21 barn and regression in sales price combined to make for a stout cocktail to drink. Congrats to those that had the vision to go with Union Boss.
3) The dirt racing at GP was clearly dominated yesterday by speed. 6 races went wire to wire. Another one, the HG race, was won by a horse within ½ length. Posting late for HG has advantages but many of us are blessed to still have day work so we post early and in the blind. Had I seen the first 7 races I would have upgraded #1 and #10 but obviously would have still lost just for another reason.
4) No offense intended for those who liked #8 but for me horses like Starship Sabrina #8 are easy tosses for win honors. I really take a jaded view of horses who have ran 6-8 times without winning especially if they are not on a major class drop or have not run par figs that can win it. After 4 starts I tend to see diminishing returns and I just avoid. They all win sometime/somewhere I am just not on board for the $7-$8 price. These kind have enough run to get a slice and can be used for under’s but often fade a bit when the real running starts. Bet down from ML 6-1 to 3-1 she was an absolute toss as underlay of day for me. Being right does not mean a thing here as I could not find the winner either. Knowing who not to bet is one thing, knowing who to bet is another. Guess I may be making some progress after 38 years but I need to pick up the pace as the mortality tables are working against me.
5) I see Iadisernia Guiseppe claimed Caslainga. Ten vowels in the trainers name. I would love to know his middle name just for fun. It sure makes me appreciate the little things in life like writing my first name David a bit more. Back to Casalinga. I hope that pans out and will monitor. She has some speed and some black type in family. Maybe works out better in breeding shed than the track. Starship Sabrina was claimed for Kentucky Deep Pockets, Bruce Lunsford. All the best there Bruce.
A good weekend of racing to all!
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I'm pretty sure someone named gresham or grisham hit a $5 hg tri on the other thread...
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I read on MW blog a comment from one of the qualifiers at NHC saying that it cost him $3000 to qualify . He said he finished in the top 100 ,but he didn't think he would try again this year.
I'm not really hip when it comes to the contests so I'm not sure what kind of dough it takes to qualify ?
Not trying to pry Alan ,but how much do you normally spend yr-yr to qualify ? If thats not being too invasive.
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" btw, as an aside, i use Beyers differently as a multirace player vs a contest player. in contests, i almost ignore them... or try to use what i perceive as either falsely high vs low Beyers to my advantage."
is the reason u ignore them because every 1 else will b using them( high Beyers ) which will water down the odds on that particular horse?
thx
VQ
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Curt,
That's nice. I'm glad you had a winner last year... and still feel the need to talk about it today. I stated my thoughts about BOH's "rail trouble" last year. Some didn't like it, but it's completely over now. But you feel the need to bring up constantly. Why? I have no clue. It's old already, Curt.
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Alan,
Thanks for the compliments on Algorithms pedigree profile. It seems Starlight Racing liked it too!
Curt V,
Belated congrats on winning the HG contest. Most of the time I'm either too busy or forget to play...or both.
Steve T.
Yeah, right. You want ME to pick ONE horse per contest? How about a Pick Five. Now THAT I can do, but only in maiden races!
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If you RSVP with me by next week (Wednesday 2/8) I'll add you to the grandstand seating list for the races. lross@ironmaidensthoroughbreds.com
PS - it's all free.
Laura
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Oh yeah!! C,
I saw your comment..The only thing I'm gonna say about that is, Mikey & me hit that race hard & the exacta paid $241.00..That's right..Mikey & me teamed up...What can I say ? Slice & dice it anyway you want..You can win the argument, butts: me & Mikey won the cash........Ft. Lauderdale Stakes.........
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Look people..I'm quite overwhelmed by all the kudos I'm getting on here....
So,
Annie, Dick W., Firlong, BSB, Jeff T., jimi, SR Vegas, Keith L., meathead01, Steve T., Allen Poe, & God forbid, I missed anybody......It really means a lot & thanx..& I'll be back at you's....Some of you asked me some other stuff & I'm thinking.......so...TTYL....& thanx again.....I will say this though..I aint pulling them out of my ???......or a Crystal Ball.......It does take work.......
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In this upcoming 8th race msw at the BigA, there are some interesting pedigree plays.
#5 Charlestonian (th4 longest shot on the board) is FB to multiple stakes winner (including Acorn) and 3rd in the BC Juvie filly Cotton Blossom. Adds Blinkers today.
#4 Bernie's Love is HB to multiple stakes winner and 2nd in Distaff Happy Ticket...not other super successful sibs after that...but is by Bernardini and going first time 2-turns.
#7 Riboletti (the fav) is out of Eclipse winner Riboletta.
#2 Acadian Blues is out of the to Distorted Humor.
#8 Superestrella is out of an unraced dam who is HS to several French champions and a stakes producer.
Where do I turn...
Gotta try the 5, or is that the 4...the 5...the 4...the 5!
OK, done for the day!
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Ron,
BTW, I am not ignoring you and the Beyer debate - it just opens up too many wounds and I don't have enough bandages to soak up the blood!
BTW, as an aside, I use Beyers differently as a multirace player vs a contest player. In contests, I almost ignore them...or try to use what I perceive as either falsely high vs low Beyers to my advantage.
I'm playing AQU today and Giant Moon's sib won 1st-out as a 5yo! Yes 5yo FTS. I like Admiral Perry in this upcoming race...
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Curt V.,
Thanks! And congratulations on winning yet another HG! You really should join the Tour. You have an inate ability to choose winning longshots, very similar to LilChok...and could most definitely give him a run for his money next year...and then move me further down the Leaderboard! Oops...maybe you shouldn't join the NHC Tour after all! :-)
Seriously, you should give it a try, as should others here as well!
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Dan, anyone,
Do you know the current status of Brother Francis, who ran third in the Cash Call. His latest work that I could find was on 1/5 at Santa Anita. What's going on????
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Curt,
There was nothing sneaky about it. Meatballs was the only one that got it right, imo, but the one-word response was all the attention that that discussion deserved. As for Battle of Hastings, who you love to mention continuously, why don't you actually WATCH the race from last year with a critical eye and tell me his trouble had ANYTHING to do with breaking from the rail.
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S R Vegas
I've learned more usefull stuff from this blog than from all the other
sources I've tried. Last year I ask a question on this blog regarding
recommendations for handicapping books and followed it up with
"or should I just keep reading this blog?" Some of the blog members
may have taken my comment out of context because I didn't get a
warm fuzzy reply.
I continue to read the blog & archives because I believe the information
within it is priceless. In essence, you can't buy this kind of information
nor find it in a book and that is what I was trying to imply when I made
the comment of "or should I just keep reading this blog?"
So, once again, I've answered my own question and that answer is:
Keep reading the blog okie, there ain't any information out there
any better than what's in "the blog".
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Mad shout out to Curt V. who appears to be on a HG roll as of late. I noticed in your proclamation that you also liked the #5. While your $25.00 exacta is mighty nice... can you imagine if you pulled the trigger on the $16.00 (7 w/2,,9 w/#5)? The $.50 tri was $457.15. Dude, you're on fire. I feel like e-mailing (I don't have it anyway) you and asking if you'd take me to the track w/you. I could use such a bump right now in this economy.
Also, congrat.'s to Annie for her proclamation as well. Also, thanks for you continued due diligence on the MKB 3 year olds. I saw that my DRF Horse Watch sent me an e-mail regarding Battle Hardened being dual-entered at Gulfstream and Tampa Bay. I don't know WHAT Kenneally is thinking. I asked for some insight on my last post on this board {Formblog} and haven't gone back and read far enough back to see if there are any published thoughts on this. The connections are very strong and they must feel that he is likely to improve and has a better post position (at both tracks co-incidentally, he is drawn inside vs. the #11 hole in his last) to risk this manuever.
In any event Annie, you are as fast and as accurate as DRF.com when it comes to reporting on the MKB's works and entries. Only someone who loves the horses (like we all do) could take on this "labor of love." The horses are one of my joys in life and I cannot imagine life without them. They are so beautiful to watch and studying their development is a real big time joy for me. When you see them "getting it" and they all of a sudden turn around and mature and figure out what they're being trained to do. Like watching that #6 horse in the Holy Bull last week end. That little brother is "getting it" in a big way and it is delightful to see it happen.
I had a great weekend on the 29th) and hit three ten centers that were savers in my Luck Pick 6 first leg (all w/5 w/all w/4). I mean... where (or what) else can you spend $158.00 on three Pick 6 tickets and lose in the first leg and still walk away w/$735.00 for three tickets that were under $5.00 each? I cannot love this game any more than I do. Watching that #6 horse beat Hansen and cashing for $85.00 by betting against Hansen w/the 2,3,5,6 vs. the #4 (Hansen) w/2,3,5,6 w/the 2,3,5,6 = $12.00 for a $.50 Super. Doesn't it feel good to know the favorite's going down (but you don't know who is going to topple him) and you're way ahead w/house money from the day before... and you've waited patiently all day to bet $12.00 bucks to make (take out to ) dinner money for your significant other (wifey)? I love this game and love everyone that loves it like I do.
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10c: I'll take a zero "0" for the HG this week, thank you very much.
BSB:
What's this about not watching the commercials...not even on SuperBowl Sunday?
This year they are already advertising the new edition of the Pussycat Doll, complete with fresh "faces", although some are borrowed from previous groups such as Paradiso Girls and Girlicious. They are featured in a...what else....Go Daddy Girls commercial!
Seeing you made nice the other day, I'll relate to you my own living situtation near some excellent fishing grounds. In the early 2000s, I rented an apartment in the house of a Portugeese fisherman in Portsmouth, RI (a small town above Newport and Middletown, RI. It had a couple of lovely decks overlooking a sizable inlet off the Sakaonett River basin of the joining of Buzzards Bay and Narragansett Bay. Within a few minutes walk, I had food farming fishing opportunities off a bridge for flounder mostly, highly productive during the tidal turns.
A canoe was all it took to get me onto an unihabitated island in the inlet's waters where I could bait cast, and when bored with that, dig clams. In the Fall, a small set of decoys would bring in the mallards there where from a natural blind I could take a few for roast duck dinners at dawns early light. Of course, there were rock promonotories outside of Newport that lent themselves to spin casting for stippers and there were the party boats out of Middletown and Newport, but I did not frequent them often as I had pretty much what I wanted just steps away from my front door.
Of course, every heaven has it's hell, and this one suffered in hot Summer months from a couple of biker bars just down the street that drew the bad crowd out of Fall River and New Bedford, MA that were leaned on by the Newport police (regulars and irregulars) whenever they tried to venture into their city limits. More than a few Friday and Saturday nights I was kept awake until well past 2:00AM with the egress past my abode of hellishly loud bikes. Still....it was a good couple of years there all considered!
Keith L.
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hg
as i finally cashed in one of these exercises, i took a quick look thru everyone's picks... it is just amazing how many among us had this thing...
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Ron Z, BSB, Ned Daly
Thanks for your posts regarding PH, discipline, handicapping process and wagering strategies. All good stuff. I said in my last post that I still have fun and enjoy the handicapping process even though I am not one of the better handicappers on the blog. I will add to that statement, by saying that cashing a ticket is WAY more fun than not cashing a ticket. So if having fun is one of my goals (which it is) then improving my handicapping skills will hopefully lead to cashing more tickets which equates to having more fun. Right ? Basically I am an old dog trying to learn new tricks. And I have learned a lot since becoming involved in this blog thanks to folks like yourselves and all the many others who contribute to this fantastic forum.
Dick W
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CurtV, :-) Did you get lucky again ??? :-) WTG Goatman .
Downhillalertgoatman 2,8,5
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Curt V
You did it AGAIN ! Nice job my man. This is getting to be a habit with you.
Bochalls
Nice job by you as well !
Annie
You did indeed have the winner. Wtg.
Congrats to any others who cashed.
Dick W
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Tencent
you can put me down for 858 plus scratches....not enough anyway
thanks
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Alan , its no sweat . I've read him and Lauren too. Bruno de Julio is good at what he does . My little Bro likes to listen to The Roger Stein show on Radio . I've heard Bruno on there talking racing and he has some good insight. You being a Virginian I'm not sure if you remember the T-shirts walking around at SA that said ,Who Framed Roger Stein ? on them. :-) One of his horses tested positive for Coke. Who's gonna give a horse coke on purpose. They want the horse to go paranoid on them !!! LOL.
I didn't think you were harsh.:-) Probably because I'm so harsh I can't tell the difference :-)
Congrats to you one more time.
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"I can't imagine anyone paired him up with Great Chance."
there's also a $5 tri on the other thread...
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curt v.--great bet!!!--excellent payoff--my hero!!
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HG 269
#5 drops in
the bet $ .10 super box 5/ 1 9 10 6
$ 2 tri 5 /1 9
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Nothing in this race really jumps out at me as a viable angle. I don't know the Florida circuit trainers well enough to identify any sweet spots, which would be my only reason to bet this sort of race with my own money, but since Dan is paying here goes.
#1 Both parts of the entry look like they may have talent- whichever or both are automatic includes.
#2 Is bred to be speedy top and bottom and reunites with Rocco who got a better performance out of her one back. The hope is that the race will be over before she has time to consider backing up.
#8 Seems to have a little promise, given that breaking slowly gave her the opportunity to pass a few horses in last. Hope she sits back again and gets brave.
Over
#5Class dropper and trainer upgrade
#12 Look for a little late run from one bred to route and a jock who seems to get some run out of almost anything he rides
$1 Trifecta 1,2,8/1,2,5,8,12/1,2,5,8,12 = $36
$3 Exacta 1,2,8/1,2,5,8,12 = $36
$10W $4PS #8=$18
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HG 269
$2.50 superfecta 5-8-10 // 5-8-10 // 1-2-9 // 1-2-9
Total $90
Straight maiden into maiden claimer.
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HG GP
I wrote this before I read the blog and it seems that many of my comments are eerily similar that of many – especially Dan and David M (which I obviously felt were both very insightful). However, I can’t seem to get as excited as Dan about a 1:04 gate workout where 40 other horses of 64 worked faster. Of course I will need to apologize to Mr. Illman when his horse rolls to an easy win. As usual, I had originally settled on the same pick as Alan, but with the scratch ended actually going a different way. I think given the theme from the weekend, I’ll end up going with a “Lil Chok” in my bet and use the favorite who will have to be less than 2-1.
Casalinga – Fawkes tends to be slightly better with horses the second time out compared to their debut, so it would be reasonable to expect Casalinga to improve off her debut, which makes her extremely dangerous here. She has the highest last out Beyer by far and the only other horse that exceeds that figure was Donate’s debut. A repeat of that performance may be good enough to get her into the winners circle. Has the necessary speed to get position at this distance, but the one negative is the inside post which has not been that good at GP in sprints. Does get bumped up in class, but seems to have a landed a relatively weak field for this level so it may not be such a big jump. However, Fawkes has not been too successful in the recent past with this type of double jump move, but her entry mate who subsequently scratched did finish second with a similar jump in class last time.
Donate – Fired pretty big in her debut, but has not lived up to that promise. Took an awful lot of money the last two while showing speed and then faltering. Speed figures fairly weak, even for this level which is troublesome considering his odds. DiVito has not had the same success at GP this meet that he has on his Illinois home circuit and his overall record lifetime at GP is even worse. Since she will likely end up the second favorite there will be not much value especially considering the rail has not been favorable and she has already been beaten by two other ones in here. While her tendency to get into races early and the slight cutback in distance will help some, she does not seem much better than many of these so she is tough endorse at this price. Anything close to her debut should put her in the hunt, but the last three do not indicate that type of performance is forthcoming.
Emma's Encore – Has been off for over three months and gets her third trainer and fourth track for only her fourth lifetime start. She did not really show much in straight maiden races on the Midwest circuit. She has shown a bit of speed, but really hasn’t been that close the early lead and previously faded in all of her starts. Perhaps she has matured a bit in the intervening time off but her works don’t inspire confidence and Jerkins does not have a very strong record for over 90 days off (10%). In addition, he has an average first time trainer record (13%). Perhaps she has some upside on the maturing/progression aspect, but even with projected improvement (which may not happen) she still does not make the list.
So Vogue – Love this trainer who seems to have high percentages and positive ROI’s in many categories – except maidens. He’s still decent in maiden races overall, but not at the 30% plus rates he is in some of the other categories. So given his high percentage of winners, you would expect him to be excellent with debut horses. Well, his last first time starter to win was July 9, 2009. In his defense he does not start many in that category, but that statistic surprised me when I was looking to include him on my debut trainer list. In addition, he was pretty decent a few years back with debut horses, but just not recently. This leaves me in a bit of a quandary as I do not know which way to go in terms of the trainer. What about the horse? The works are not fast, but the last two look good enough for this field. The sire is only running at a 5% clip in terms of debut wins, so that is not positive and all of the works have been at CRC, which I don’t like that much either. Given the mixed trainer feelings and the negative first time starter information on the horse itself, I will reluctantly leave her out, but I always have a tough time ignoring Ziadie and often regret when I do.
Union Boss – First time starter that is well bred with a few good works, especially in late December. Sire is about 11% with debut horses, but trainer is only about 5% with debut horses if you look at the last couple of years. Given that the field seems pretty anemic, a decent first time starter would have a big chance. Have not liked Prado on a horse for the past few years, so I’m not enthralled with the connections. In addition, having only three works and 14 furlongs of work in January makes me think the horse will be a bit short. Has a chance despite my misgivings.
Starship Sabrina – Has a 6-0-1-3 lifetime record, but has yet to crack the 60 Beyer level. Picked up the place money last time after dropping into a maiden claimer. Seems more like a plodder and the 5.5 furlong trip may not be her strong suit. Last time is her first race out of her six lifetime starts where she made up lengths in the stretch. Perhaps breaking slowly is the key for her.
Great Chance – Finished fourth in a common race behind Donate and Starship Sabrina, but she seems to have the most upside as it was only her first start. Blinkers go on for the first time and the CRC works are good enough. May improve the second time out.
Why Should I – That’s what I thought when I looked at this horse. First two tires in straight maidens were not competitive, but she drops here. Trainer does not win that often, but he puts over big prices every now and then, especially in these types of races. Still seems up against it with the drop, so the answer to the question is probably you shouldn’t.
Cosmic Energy – Hot Timothy Hills saddles this first timer, but his strengths are not in this area. In addition, the 4% sire debut stats don’t inspire confidence either. Has been working every 6-8 days, but I’ll pass here.
Ms. Tiznow – Of the first time starters, trainer has the best win percentage by far. Well bred, but hung out the extreme outside for debut is not a great place to be. Certainly has a chance, but the outside may be her undoing.
$60 EX 1/7
$40 EX 7/1
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Short and sweet as the last post didn't appear to go thru.
$50 EX Box 1-8 (100 total)
HG 269
Good Luck
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$50 ex.
2 with 9,10
Donate's first could win this, other two in for sloppy seconds?
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HG 269
#1 Casalinga
Speed good enough to get to the front. Moving up in class but figures to improve 2nd time out.
# Union Boss
Has some decent works on the track back in December. Looking for her to run to those works.
Wager:
$100 ex: 1/ 7 $100
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Alan&Stringmail
thx 4 the feedback
VQ
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HG 269
Casalinga ran impressively first out in 25k company, but the top three were all FTS and could prove to be of better quality than that tag. Very solid work in the interim and the cut back to 5 1/2 make her a big threat.
Starship Sabrina was away slowly when trying to close into a slow pace. She fared well in SpWt company and has the speed to keep herself involved and not lag to far back at this distance.
Great Chance goes 2nd out for Pinchin, who strikes at 19% in that category. Took his fair share of money last time, adds blinkers, and has logged two improved breezes since. Another who will benefit from the turnback.
$50 Tri 1/8,9/8,9
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HG
Taking the drop-downs...
$75 win 5
$25 Exacta 5-10
Good luck, all!
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Hg play
$10 tri box 1 2 12
$20 wp 12
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HG269@the Gulf,
I keep having to answer the question why a 1st time starter in a Maiden Claimer for the 1st time ? vs. a MSW ? They say he/she must not be that good then. Well, I see it as, why then all the other horses then ? Okay so.........
#7 Union Boss>>works, works, works...Good breeding..Speed holding today.....
#2 Donate>>speed, speed, speed...
#9 Great Chance>Double Slewster, mixed w/the Doctor on the bottom.....Odds, odds.......
I'd like to add some others, butts:I'm about out of money.......like the #5.....
$25 Exacta Box>#7 WITH/#2 & #9=$100.00..........
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$40 win 8
$15 exacta 8/9,10,11,12
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HG Entry
$100 win on #7
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BSB,
There seems to be a trend in using handicappers and not getting the name right on promotions. I received an e-mail from Thoro-Graph yesterday regarding our resident winner of the NHC. The advertisement also appears on the front page of their website:
"Congratulations to Thoro-Graph Customer Michael Beychok on his dramatic win in NHC XIII." (OK seems like a nice start).
However, just below that:
"To win today and compete in these contests I believe the player needs to have information that 90% of the market does not have to find value. So yes, I use a lot of different sources for data but my sole source for speed figures is Thoro-Graph and that will not change" -- Michael Beychock (oops where did we get that extra C).
You would think that given he is the biggest name in the sport for the week AND that the two appear right next to each other, someone would notice and fix it.
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Today's HG:
$50 Xacta Box 6/12
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Dan system not working I try to submit my picks again here.
$100.00 win #5 in HG 269
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HG 269
1- Casalinga
Best on debut effort protected with the doubled claim price.
10- Why Should I
Knows the short sprint pace and exits Special Weight contests.
6- So Vogue
Top percentage trainer opts for jock with bug and lightest price allowed in first start for this homebred.
HG Wager:
$15 EX Box 1-6-10
$10 EX 1 with 6
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HG269
$60 towin #2
$20 ex 2-5
$20 tri 2-5-1
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HG
Like Dan's analysis re: #6 So Vogue and think Zaidie will be putting his best "foot" forward for new client Pia Maria Kirkham. Manuel Wayar and Manoel Cruz are back together and look live with #10 Why Should I. Both opt for the 2lb break, to me, more of a psychological than physical edge. I'll take both.
$50 Exacta Box 6/10
David M..Always enjoy your analysis and takes on all things horse and believe your oft mentioned HG drought could well end today.
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First time up and I didn't put the HG up on my comments. Hopefully this will do it.
HG 269
play $4 Superfecta box 1-2-5-8 ($96)
$2 Exacta Box 2-8 ($4)
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HG269 - Gulfstream R8
Not too much love for first time starter #12 due to ordinary works and outside post, but I like the pedigree and don't see any world beaters in here, so she wouldn't have to be that great to take this one.
So I will use her like this:
$40 win/place 12 ($80)
$10 ex 1,8/12 ($20)
Good luck to all !
Dick W
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I wonder how much better #8 Starship Sabrina woud have run had she not stumbled at the start last time. The only one of the previous MSW's that was competitive as a MSW (three thirds). With a clean break, probably gone against these.
#2 Donate is another last race trouble horse that should improve with a clean break. The fact she was favored in her last race indicates that the crowd thought she was clearly the best of the field. Trainer won a fourth of his races last year and is slow getting started at meet, but today might be the turnaround day.
#1 Casalinga. Hard to overlook a horse with the highest Beyer in the field. Fact that after being passed she tried to come back shows that she has some heart. Normally would believe that horse rising in class from 25K to 50K would not have much of a chance, but stallmate 1A Chambord Castle (scratched) went from 25 K to 50 K and improved Beyer by 12 while being just as competitive registering another second.
#5 Emma's Encore is dropping out of the MSW ranks for the first time, but was within 4 of the lead at the stretch call in both of her previous and after stumbling at start in last. Often heard that dropping out of MSW to claiming is the most powerful move among claimers.
Bet: $4 Superfecta Box 1-2-5-8 ($96)
$2 Exacta Box 2/8 ($4)
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Due to scratches change my wager to
HG269 2-2-12
$1 Superfecta 1, 5, 8 / 1, 5, 8 / 1, 5, 8 / 1, 2, 5, 8, 9, 10 = $18
$1 Superfecta 1, 5, 8 / 1, 5, 8 / 1, 2, 5, 8, 9, 10 / 1, 5, 8 = $18
$1 Superfecta 1, 5, 8 / 1, 2, 5, 8, 9, 10 / 1, 5, 8 / 1, 5, 8 = $18
$1 Superfecta 1, 2, 5, 8, 9, 10 / 1, 5, 8 / 1, 5, 8 / 1, 5, 8 = $18
$1 Trifecta 1, 2, 5, 8, 9, 10 / 1, 5, 8 / 1, 5, 8 = 24
$1 straight Exacta 1 over 8 = $4
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blackseabass,
No problem. I came on too harsh to you last night and over-read into your comment. I cut my teeth handicapping reading columns and books from guys like Steve D and am more likely to give him a pass on things. And thanks again for your rooting me on in the tournie!
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handi 269 picks
$20 Win/Place 12
$30 Win/Place 5
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Best Bets
MUTINY was claimed from seventh straight loss, and returned eight weeks later to beat a dozen rivals in best effort since last July; back to dirt and back with Rosie Napravnik after turf try on short rest. RUFFINO probably won't match 92 Beyer earned last time on this track last fall, but grizzled old pro got back in win column recently, when claimed by savvy owner-trainer; second in '09 Empire Classic over sloppy going here. HILL CROSSING has been freshened since Mar. 18 score second off the claim that earned best figure since daylight win here last summer; needs fast footing.
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