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Hallandale Beach, FL -- I'm in sunny and windy Hallandale for the early Opening Day at Gulfstream Park today, and still reeling from the announcement yesterday that the Hopeful Stakes at Saratoga has been downgraded to a Grade 2 race for 2012.
It's weird for Gulfstream to be opening on December 3 after decades of January or March (when Hialeah had the January-February dates) starts to the winter meeting, and it's going to be interesting to see what Gulfstream in December looks like. The opening-day card is a little thin, but the change of venue, the presence of some early-bird northern stables, and a couple of interesting 2-year-old races give it the feel of a start to winter racing rather than a mere relocation of the Calder meet. On balance it will probably work out for the best. as the April dates that now will go to Calder had a somewhat ghostly feel in recent years as the higher-quality stock left town for Keeneland a month before the end of the Gulfstream meet.
The opening-day stakes is the ungraded $100k Spectacular Bid at six furlongs for eight 2-year-olds. Luke of York, 2 for 2 on Polytrack, is the 5-2 ML favorite with G2 Nahua winner Vexor next at 3-1, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ancient Rome goes off favored by post time at much less than his 4-1 ML price. The Tony Dutrow-trained son of Roman Ruler was a 7 3/4-length maiden winner at Delaware last time at 3-to-10 and is nicely drawn outside the other speed in the race.
(If you're in the neighborhood, I'll be doing a free seminar and q-and-a session at Gulfstream in the Sport of Kings Room at the track Saturday starting at 11 a.m.)
It was a little surprising when the Spectacular Bid lost its G3 status a few years back, but nothing like the shock being felt in New York at the downgrading of the Hopeful to G2 status next year. The traditional closing-weekend feature of the Saratoga meeting, the Hopeful has long been the first Grade 1 race of the year in the east for 2-year-old males -- next year there won't be one until the Champagne the first weekend of October.
The Champagne will now also be the only Grade 1 dirt race for 2-year-old males next year outside of California, site of the Norfolk and Breeders' Cup Juvenile. All of the division's other Grade 1 races will be on synthetics (Del Mar Futurity, Breeders' Futurity, Hollywood Futurity) or grass (Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf).
There was a pleasing symmetry to the Grade 1 calendar for juveniles beginning almost simultaneously with the Del Mar Futurity and Del Mar Debutante in the west and the Hopeful and Spinaway in the east. The downgrade of the Hopeful upsets that balance and will only encourage people to start their 2-year-olds later and later.
It's also one for which no one was clamoring and doesn't seem particularly justified. This year's edition wasn't a stellar one, but it was just a year ago that Boys at Toscanova, who went on to be second in the BC Juvenile, and Stay Thirsty, who went on to win this year's Travers and Jim Dandy, were in the race. Why the rush to reduce it to the same graded status at the Saratoga meet as the With Anticipation, an over-graded juvenile grass race usually composed of maidens and second-time starters?
I also like to add that shortening of the great races to accomodate these extended sprinters has cheapen the HOY award. Rachel Alexandra, a superior sprinter but lacking classic distance ability hopefully is just an anomaly. But with Havre de Grace more than likely the winner of 2011 HOY, the trend does look bleak. Rachel and Havre, two horses lacking classic distance ability. By voting these horses as HOY, we are saying is that it's ok to keep breeding these superior sprinters and less than classic distance horses. Winning the 9 furlong Woodward somehow made you "great" when both Rachel and Havre would have lost if the Woodward was still 10 furlongs. At least Zenyatta showed her strength at the classic distance but it is sad she didn't enter more open G1 10 furlong races. The industry's tolerance for these mostly frail 9 furlong superior sprinters would assure it's status as a niche sport for years to come and it's survival questionable.
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Too many Grade 1's. Grade 1 carries less weight when there are so many of them. Think about it. The Whitney and Jockey Club Gold Cup are Grade 1 not to mention Triple Crown races. So is the Prioress, Jenny Wiley and Cotillion. So winning the JCGC or Whitney or a Triple Crown race is equal to winning the Prioress, Jenny Wiley or Cotillion? Yeah right.
I think any filly Triple Crown should be run at 1 and 1/8, 1 and 1/16, and 1 and 1/4 miles. Fillies shouldn't have to go as far as colts. The KY Oaks will always be 1 and 1/8 miles, the classic filly and mare distance.
If it was up to me only the following would be Grade 1:
Donn Handicap
Santa Anita Handicap
Arkansas Derby
Florida Derby
Wood Memorial
Santa Anita Derby
Blue Grass
Kentucky Derby
Preakness
Belmont
KY Oaks
Met Mile
Stephen Foster
Haskell
Travers
Alabama
Whitney
Hollywood Gold Cup
Woodward
Jockey Club Gold Cup
Goodwood
Pacific Classic
Arlington Million
Beldame
Personal Ensign
Belmont's Turf Classic
Champagne
Breeders Futurity
Norfolk
Hollywood Futurity
Vosburgh
Forego
Ancient Title
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Hey Steve : Interesting comment you made about Calder. It may be my imagination but December at Calder seemed to be a window for early bird trainers to win with their 2 year old maidens against a considerably thinned out class. If they didnt make it, they merely transferred over to GP to try and win as 3 year olds, but against considerably classier outfits.
Seems like GP in December now swallows that opportunity.
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A number of commenters have tried to defend or explain the Hopeful downgrade by stating that recent fields have not been deep (and that's generally true) or that horses have only had one race and then run in the Hopeful (also generally true) or that there should not be any grade I races for 2YOs before the BC (which is a perfectly fine viewpoint, though not mine).
But none of those views explain the differential treatment of the California races from the NY races. The Futurity and Norfolk, particularly the latter, face the same issues the Hopeful has faced.
I'd complain less about the Hopeful downgrade if the Norfolk also was downgraded.
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1. Rejecting Belmont for the next Breeders Cup, perhaps even the next two editions
2. Downgrading The Hopeful that is run during arguably the most poular meet among horsemen and bettors.
There's an anti-New York bias in racing for some reason and I've had enough. If Repole wants to put together a day of racing at Belmont to compete against the Breeders Cup I will be there with full pockets.
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I live in the West, but I too was shocked to see that the Hopeful was downgraded. Shocked. Like Steve mentioned, I hadn't even heard that this was a possibility. The Hollywood Turf Cup, sure. But not the Hopeful. Yes, it hasn't been particularly relevant towards the Triple Crown of late, or really even the Breeder's Cup or the 2 Year Old Eclipse, but the Hoepful winners and also-rans still constitute a solid group. Then, there is all the history.
I will argue with those portraying the Hopeful fields as superior to the Del Mar Futurity fields over the last decade or two, but I will quickly concede the superiority of the Hopeful going back to the pre-Breeder's Cup era. In fact, before the 80s, the Hopeful towered over the Del Mar Futurity. The downgrade was a slap in the face of history and tradition.
I also second what Chuck said about the lack of gr.1 races for open males at a classic distance back East. When I got into the sport in the late 80s, the Gulfstream Park Cap was a gr.1 at 10 furlongs, the Pimlico Special was just being revived, the Suburban and Brooklyn were gr.1s at 10 and 12 furlongs, the Woodward was a gr.1 at 10 furlongs, and the Jockey Club Gold Cup was a gr.1 at 12 furlongs. Only the JCGC, now at 10 furlongs, remains as a gr.1 race open for older males at 10 furlongs+.
In contrast, especially since the Big Cap is back to dirt, the California handicap triple of the Santa Anita Handicap, Hollywood Gold, and Pacific Classic now stands as the most important series for older horses at the classic distance. As a side, Lava Man's sweep of the series(and Goodwood) in 2006, repeat sweep of the Big Cap-Gold Cup double in 07, and 3 straight Gold Cups(05-07; at one point he had won 6 of the 7 races in the series from the 05 Gold Cup to 07 Gold Cup) were perhaps the most underappreciated achievements of the last decade. Lava Man couldn't ship and he beat questionable competition, but you can make the argument that no horse has dominated the series like he did(and his consistent Beyers in the 109-113 range, with a top of 120, look alot better in retrospect).
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The Hopeful may not be what it once was, but there's no reason to downgrade it, whilst keeping the Breeders' Futurity at Keeneland at Grade I. And don't get me started about the Blue Grass...
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It's puzzling to say the least.Personally I think they should downgrade all the synth races.
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The downgrade of the Hopeful Stakes is unfortunately consistent with the future of flat racing in the USA. In Europe or Japan, there are larger money stakes and will eventually draw the better horses from around the world, especially the USA.
The fans love races with big money. Remember when Round Table ran on dirt or grass and carried over 132 lbs in some of his races. This was exciting racing. The feeling cannot be recreated on TVG or some other broadcast or a off-site betting establishment.
In "Field of Dreams" the theory was you build the field and they will come. Same is true of high $$$ stakes. The downgrade is bad for racing. The Hopeful is only as good as the horses running and if the track doesn't make it enticing or worth the Grade 1 status, the good horses won't come and the racetrack patronage will go down as well.
Owners, tracks and the media all harp on the delicate place that thoroughbred bred is in because of the expense of breeding, foaling and training of horses. Downgrading any significant race only downgrades racing as a whole. It's disappointing. I used to love the excitement of a real handicap race at the track. I used to go to just see these amazing horses. Nowadays so many of the horses have similar sires and dams based on the racing careers of these horses. Did anyone know Khalid before Swaps ... who held world records for many years. He wasn't a formulated horse. Take the Horse of the Century Secretariat. How are you going to duplicate the physical characteristic of an enlarged heart that pumped more blood than a typical thoroughbred. His progeny never neared his talent. Gambling is a risk and the source for that risk is good horses.
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I would like to know the average field size for the last 10 years of hopeful. does anyone know? If i recall usually it comes up REAL short. Nobody seems to want to enter ALL these 2yr New York races. If i recall the dirt races are terrible for a bettor. Trainers might bruise there record!
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Who in their infinite wisdom decided this? LEAVE HISTORY ALONE . Talk about a sport that only knows how to screw things up ? Is this part of the SAR upgrades were supposed to get with the slot money . Just plain idiotic . To me its still a Grade 1 !!!
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Nick, I agree the Hopeful winners you mentioned do make it worthy of retaining its G1 status, but in the DMF's defense, if I'm remembering correctly, Declan's Moon and Stevie Wonderboy were 2YO champs, and Lookin at Lucky was 3YO champ, so I'd say the DMF stands on its own merits - not discrediting one race over another, though, for sure. Off on a tangent, also curious how the Santa Maria and Milady Handicaps never got their G1 statuses back, in all those years where Azeri and/or Zenyatta were winning them in back-to-back years. Don't know how these grades are assigned, but a number of decisions leave me scratching my head!
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4 of the last 10 winners of the Del Mar Futurity won the Eclipse. 0 of the last 10 winners of the Hopeful won it. I'm not saying I agree that the Hopeful should be downgraded, but it's foolish to denigrate the winners of the Del Mar Futurity in comparison to the Hopeful.
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After reading Nick's list of Hopeful winners, I can see why it was downgraded. I thought that list would be better. It's really kind of week. How many of those horses ever won another G1? The With Anticipation should be G3 although a lot of horses that come from 2yo turf route races at Saratoga go on to the Derby Trail. Maybe more than those that come from Saratoga 2yo sprints on dirt. Big Brown and Pioneerof The Nile to name a few. I know there's a ton more but I don't have my Derby programs in front of me at the time. I consider a horse that breaks their maiden at 1 and 1/16 miles on turf at Saratoga more of a threat to win the Derby than a horse that breaks their maiden at 7f or less on dirt at Saratoga. I think Saratoga should go to only 2 main 2yo stakes on dirt for colts and 2 main 2yo stakes for fillies. One at 6f at the beginning of the meet and one at 7f at the end. It will make for bigger/better fields. The Futurity at Belmont needs to go too. It messes up the Bashford Manor at Churchill.
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Hey Steve,
Who knows why racing does what they do?
I was standing at the top of the sloppy stretch for this years edition, I held my breath as an impossible Triniberg almost beat a horse, Currency Swap, that I had in everything. Some days it goes your way. and it did that day until I got on 87 south at 6 pm on Labor day night. UGH!
Miles and miles of misery. Had the winner though! Paid the price on the way home.
Love your blog.
Sorry I missed you at the slot parlor, I mean beautiful Gulfstream Park.
Keep up the good work.
George in Tampa
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Steve:
Downgrade the Hopeful. What a genius decision. I can't add anything that has not already been posted on this blog. Just stupid, that is my opinion.
Thank you for all you do for being the voice of the average handicapper. I enjoy every blog and appreciate all of your hard work.
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Did I see something about the Cotillion at Parx being upgraded to G1? That's at least as suspicious as the Hopeful being downgraded to G2. Wish I was a fly on the wall at that meeting.
Also... a question for Steve: Why, now that Gulfstream has a last race pentafecta like the California tracks, do the DRF charts not show the payout? I checked here and the Gulfstream web site and saw no mention of it. What gives??
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The Hopeful downgrade seems a bit premature, especially considering the racing in CA has been much weaker in recent years than years ago.
There's a lot of literature about the process here in several sections at this link: http://www.toba.org/graded-stakes/grading-procedure.aspx
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Firstly, to the person who asked, the average field size for the Hopeful during the past 10 years has been 6.8 starters.
Nextly, many of those Hopeful winners just don't stand up under scrutiny:
Currency Swap - Hasn't raced again (we'll give him a pass)
Boys at Tosconova - Has managed only an allowance win since
Dublin - Never won again
Vineyard Haven - The bright spot - a triple Grade I winner since the Hopeful
Majestic Warrior - Never won again
Circular Quay - Won twice after his Hopeful (once as a 3yo - Gr II LA Derby, once @ 4yo Gr II New Orleans Hcp)
First Samurai - Won once subsequently (Gr. I Champagne Stakes)
Afleet Alex - Dual Classic winner plus the Arkansas Derby
Silver Wagon - Won the '03 Hopeful and managed a single, subsequent win prior to July of '06
Sky Mesa - Won once after his Hopeful (Gr. II Breeders' Futurity)
So you can say all you want about the last ten Hopeful winners collectively, but how much can you really say, collectively, about the last five Hopeful winners??
Based on the trend, the downgrading was only proper.
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BruceF: Trinninberg ran in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Sprint, as did Vexor.
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The one horse race every person can name is the Kentucky Derby, undoubtedly the most popular race of the year. Any player that has some sort of rationale knows that horses that run well at 2 usually don't have a serious impact at 3 or older (thus why Derby watch by your very own Watchmaker is a bit premature). The one exception has been the Hopeful. Saratoga is the premier event of the summer; yet, the committee decided to downgrade the highlight of the meet for 2 year olds? Ill advised.
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While the downgrade of the Hopeful to G2 status does seem unwarranted, NYRA (and other circuits) is almost asking for this happen by keeping the purse at $250,000, the bare minimum to maintain G1 status. Did anyone else note how bad the field was for the Cigar Mile last week? Certainly not surprising for a race that has seen its purse repeatedly hacked away over the years. If they keep the Cigar at $250K, maybe it will be next.....
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The Hopeful may not be what it once was, but it's still far and away a more meaningful race than the Breeders' Futurity at Keeneland. And don't even get me started about the Blue Grass as a Grade I event...
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How does the Jockey Club determine the Grade status of a race?
It's not on the value of the purse and it can't be on field strength because that is unknown.
Can someone answer...thanks
[The Jockey Club is not involved in grading races. It is done by the Graded Stakes Committee of the Thoroughbred Owners and Breeders Association(TOBA). -SC]
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The downgrade of the Hopeful is a head scratching move. That being said, the trend I have noticed over the last couple years at Saratoga is for a horse to win a maiden their and go right to the Champagne. Uncle Mo and Alpha come to mind. Perhaps three graded stakes for two year old colts is one too many. Two graded stakes, with an increase in purse for the Hopeful could correct this unfortunate mistake.
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Mr.Crist,
Great to see you at the Seminar this afternoon. Being from Chicago, it wasn't hard to convince my girlfriend to head down to Florida for opening weekend at Gulfstream. I found your information insightful as always and your answers (I asked you about pick 4 hedging) real and to the point. You capped off a great weekend for me and I really appreciate it. See you at the Spa.....
Thank You for Your Time, Andrew
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Steven, I was at the Q & A this morning. Very entertaining. Loved it. Thanks for the 11 to 1 Ravelo's Boy in the 7th.
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How in the world was the Hopeful the sacrificial lamb for the graded stakes committee? Look no further than the Breeder's Futurity at Keenland. Since 2004, this is the esteemed list of winners of a race that has truly become one of this biggest crapshoots on the calendar each year.
With the advent of slot money in NY, we are on the verge of New York Racing becoming the center of North American racing in the near future. This seems like a completely illogical time to downgrade one of the most prestigious races at the premier racing meet in the nation.
Breeders Furturity
Dullahan
JB's THunder
Noble's Promise
Square Eddie
Wicked Style
Great Hunter
Dawn of War
Consolidator
Hopeful
Currency Swap
Boys at Toscanova
Dublin
Vineyard Haven
Majestic Warrior
Circular Quay
First Samurai
Afleet Alex
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Steve:
You love the Breeders Cup so just get used to the rest of the year getting less relevant. Look at all the big races for older horses that are no now just preps on the road to the Breeders Cup Classic. For example, The Jockey Club Gold Cup is now a prep race. The Belmont Fall Championship meet is now The Breeders Cup Prep Meet.
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I have been going to Saratoga for at least 50 years and have attended SEVERAL Hopefuls. I consider myself, yet, fairly open -minded and am receptive to logical and viable explanations to various issues, matters,.. However, downgrading this particular race seems ridiculous.
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Steve (or anyone else who might shed some light on this):
Yesterday (12/2) at Aqueduct, the Pick-3 on races 5-6-7 paid $596. The winning horses went off, respectively, at $1 odds of $5.70, $1.45, and $14.00. The Pick-3 on races 6-7-8 paid $985. The winning horses went off, respectively, at $1.45, $14.00, and $5.70.
The parley price for each of these combos was $492.45; both obviously well exceeded the parlay. But----the exact same win odds, yet the combos were obviously bet very differently by Pick-3 players compared to those wagering in the win pool.
Does anyone have a logical explanation for this?
[One possible factor: The first 5.70-1 winner was in an open race where six horses were 3-1 to 6-1; the second 5.70-1 winner was in a race with a 1.30-1 favorite that many people may have singled. -SC]
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Did they downgrade the Hopeful to a G2 and leave the Spinaway at G1 status? What could be the rationale behind that?
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I like the Hopeful Stakes as much as anyone, but let's face it, the quality hasn't been there for a few years now and the Breeder's Cup has had a lot to do with it. Take this year for example. There were 10 horses in the Hopeful. Seven (7) of them were coming out of MSW races. Two others had placed in G2 stakes but were still eligible for NW1X allowance races. The first three finishers (Currency Swap, Trinniberg and Big Blue Nation) were unplaced in stakes going into the Hopeful. I hate to say it but this year's race was little more than a first level allowance race. By the way, none of the Hopeful runners went on to run in the Breeders Cup. Not sure what NYRA would have to do to get the Hopeful back to G1 status. Increase purse to a million???
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What a ludicrous decision. I'm very surprised by this move... the Hopeful is one of those truly celebrated historical Grade 1s (since 1903). I mean, Secretariat won the darn thing in 1972. The Del Mar Futurity has only been around since 1948, and as proven by many commenters already, simply does not have the resume that the Hopeful boasts. What gives?? Lets hope this is reconsidered for 2013.
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downgrading the Hopeful makes little sense - then again some races such as the Delaware Handicap long should have been Grade 1, so there has always been some misallocations in the system - sounds like some computer formula's gone slightly awry
the only other possible explanation, perhaps, is some formula was applied to Saratoga as a whole vs. other tracks nationwide - perhaps some sort of maximum Grade 1's per location thing?
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There should be no Grade 1's for two year olds before the Breeders Cup.
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I hadn't noticed the downgrade yesterday. While some of it's recent editions have been a little light on quality depth and number of runners that goes for most stake races as connections jockey to avoid unwanted confrontations that could jeopardize end of year awards before the BC. Honestly, I question the motives of those who made the decision. Is anyone going to seriously tell me that this is a case that so troubled their bureaucratic consciences that they couldn't sleep at night unless they made this decision part of their life's work? Yeah, right.
Wonder if the folks at Three Chimneys are contracted to support a downgraded affair?
On a more cheerful note I see that Walt P's beloved Cotillion has been bumped to GI. Deservedly I think.
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Lost in the shuffle of the very-surprising downgrade of the Hopeful from a Grade 1 to a Grade 2 (though if things stay as they are, I can see the Del Mar Futurity also being downgraded to a Grade 2 in 2013) is the LONG overdue upgrade of the Cotillion to Grade 1, making the Cotillion the first Grade 1 race in the history of Parx Racing. With that move, it revives a viewpoint I originally wrote about when Steve and Mike Watchmaker said that we need a true filly Triple Crown in this sport:
With the Cotillion now a Grade 1, that race should also be moved to Memorial Day where it would be set to become the middle leg of a new Triple Tiara where it can be a true companion to the Triple Crown. Here would be my planned schedule for 2012 if this were done then:
Friday, May 4: The Kentucky Oaks at Churchill Downs, lengthened to 1 1/4 Miles.
Monday, May 28: The Cotillion at Parx Racing, lengthened to 1 3/16 Miles.
Saturday, June 23: The Coaching Club American Oaks at Belmont Park (returned from Saratoga), returned to its former distance of 1 1/2 Miles.
Each of these races would now carry $1 Million added ($1.25 Million guaranteed) purses with in this format to me a very good chance of all three airing on NBC as well:
The Oaks very possibly on Friday night (5/4) from 10:00-11:00 PM ET.
The Cotillion on Memorial Day night (5/28) from 7:00-8:00 PM ET, directly in front of Game 1 or 2 of the Stanley Cup Finals.
The CCA Oaks on Saturday 6/23 from 8:00-9:00 PM ET (post time would be 8:28 PM as the last race on the card and it is light out to run the race that late on one of the longest days of the year).
This to me would help expand interest in the sport beyond the Triple Crown by giving the fillies their own national spotlight. This I suspect would prove over time to be very popular.
The move of the CCA Oaks to June incidentally would be part of a massive overhaul of the not just the three year old filly schedule (that includes moving the Acorn to March and Mother Goose to April to be preps for the Kentucky Oaks and new Triple Tiara and the Gazelle to replace the CCA Oaks at Saratoga in July), but the entire NYRA stakes schedule to better align stakes and eliminate number conflicts during the year (most notably having the Man o'War at Belmont one week after the UN Handicap at Monmouth by moving the Man o'War to either closing day at Saratoga or the first week of the Belmont fall meet AND the annual Sword Dancer-Arlington Million conflict by moving the Sword Dancer to closing weekend of the spring meet at Aqueduct as the first big-money stakes race of the year in the northeast for older horses on turf).
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I don't really understand the downgrade of the Hopeful, but that isn't my main problem with the newly revamped graded stakes schedule.
I was hoping that the Virginia Derby at Colonial Downs would be a newly minted Grade 1 for the 2012 season based oon the success of its past winners and the top-to-bottom strength of the 2011 edition.
In the past 8 editions, 6 of the winners went on to win Grade One(s)
Paddy O'Prado-2010
Gio Ponti-2008
Red Giant-2007
Go Between-2006
English Channel-2005
Kitten's Joy-2004
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This is nothing but a small ripple to what has happened to this great sport.
The great handicap races like the Suburban has been shortened and downgraded to a grade 2 status. We have been shortening races to accomodate these superior sprinters to get 9 furlongs. Case in point the Woodward. New York does not even have a single open grade 1 two turn classic distance 10 furlongs race anymore.... Nobody in the east seem upset about it. For all the complaining about the synthetic in SoCal, and the call for tradition, at least they still have open G1 2 turn classic distance races. And if I remembered correctly, the great routers (10 furlongs or longer) were the measure how great a horse is and have the heads up in HOY voting. Now looks like the standard is the 9 furlongs sprinting horses that are being used to run anywhere from 5 to 9 furlongs. Is it the Breeders Cup fault that the once great fall eastern races is nothing more than preps for the Breeders Cup? Maybe but so what? we don't have the great horses we had before anyway.....cannot wait for the Triple Crown races to be shortened as some in the industry have been asking. I am so excited and cannot wait for the next TC WINNER.... Ah where have you gone Forego? John Henry? Seattle Slew? Affirmed? coo coo coo choooo Mrs. Robinson.
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I am happy that Gulfstream is opening in December. I’ll spend most of December Christmas shopping. By the time the holidays are over, I can start the New Year most of the horses stabled at Gulfstream would have worked or raced over the surface. In the past I had to wait until early February before I placed some serious wagers.
As far as downgrading the Hopeful to Grade II status, I was surprised. Why would the graded stakes committee then not downgrade the Spinaway to Grade II?
Kudos to the Graded Stakes committee elevating the Cotillion Stakes to Grade I status. Maybe they should consider upgrading the Pennsylvania Derby also to Grade I status.
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Tongue in cheek - just beginning to loose HOPE in these fella's to ever see the light and make the industry the glamorous and prestigious one it once was. Stakes caliber horses are more valiant than a row of slots
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Can we be real about the Hopeful? It's not what it once was. It and other summertime 2YO staples have been neutered by the Breeders' Cup. (Is the Sapling even still a graded race?)
Compare Nick's list (in an earlier post) to this one of Hopeful winners from the from the 60s.
1960 Hail to Reason*
1961 Jaipur*
1962 Outing Class
1963 Traffic
1964 Bold Lad*
1965 Buckpasser*
1966 Bold Hour
1967 What a Pleasure
1968 Top Knight*
1969 Irish Castle
*Eclipse Award Winner
In case anyone thinks I have cherry-picked the 60s, it should be noted that in the 70s Hopeful winners included Secretariat, Foolish Pleasure, Affirmed, and General Assembly. Then the BC came along in the 80s.
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This is the problem with modern racing. To say that the last 10 winners of the Del Mar Futurity are better than those of the Hopeful Stakes is asinine.
• Afleet Alex was a dual classic winner.
• Vineyard Haven was a G1 sprinter.
• First Samurai returned to win the Champagne defeating Henny Hughes (runner up in the BC Juv.)
• Silver Wagon competitive as a 3yo, 2nd in the G1 Met Mile as a 4yo to HOY Ghostzapper and G1 winner in Carter H. as a 6yo.
• Circular Quay was 2nd in the BC Juv, won the G2 Louisiana Derby . As a 4yo he won the N.O Hdcp.
Hopeful Stakes:
2011: Currency Swap
2010: Boys at Toscanova
2009: Dublin
2008: Vineyard Haven
2007: Majestic Warrior
2006: Circular Quay
2005: First Samurai
2004: Afleet Alex
2003: Silver Wagon
2002: Sky Mesa
Del Mar Futurity:
2011: Drill
2010: J P's Gusto
2009: Lookin at Lucky
2008: Midshipman
2007: Georgie Boy
2006: Horse Greeley
2005: Stevie Wonderboy
2004: Declan's Moon
2003: Siphonizer
2002: Icecoldbeeratreds
I stopped betting the horses this week for 2 main reasons:
1) Too many tracks with small fields and cheap horses and;
2) Situations that Steve highlights here. The downgrade of the Hopeful Stakes for no real reason. Acknowledging there may be too many G1 races in America these days the Hopeful is not one to sacrifice.
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Hi Steve,
The calender has been changed, to the point where you just pick your spots and shoot.
Hope for the best, and cherish the random winner.
There are too many Grade One races, but the Hopeful seems like a curious one to lower. A G-3, to a G-2, to a G-1, seems a logical progression, (at Saratoga), but now we get - what?
Don't ask - I'll tell you no lies.
And a nod is as good as a wink.
Thanks, as always.
NBHH
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