01/22/2009 4:23PM

Forego, questions


Godolphin not only has Midshipman and Vineyard Haven prepping for the Derby overseas, but their Desert Party won the Ford Flex  Trophy earlier today in Dubai.  The $2.1M juvenile purchase by Street Cry won the Grade 2 Sanford last year at two for Eoin Harty, and covered the about seven furlongs in 1:24.43.  Regal Ransom, the beaten favorite in the Grade 1 Norfolk at Oak Tree for Kiaran McLaughlin, finished a half-length behind in second.  Both colts are now trained by Saeed by Suroor.  Desert Party hadn't raced since finishing sixth in the Hopeful, and had been sidelined with swelling in his left foreleg...Madeo is reportedly doing well after being pulled up in the San Fernando...Jack's Wild (ankle) will return from the Disabled List in the Sunshine Millions Turf...Mistical Plan (splint) will make her comeback in the Filly and Mare Sprint...Tomcito, a blog favorite last year, recently returned to serious training.  He breezed three furlongs at Palm Meadows on January 18.


Can we get a look at lifetime PP's of Catentius and his daddy Storm Cat?  Trying to see if Notonthesamepage can go 10 furlongs?

Here they are:

Download StormCatienus.pdf


An aside for those in NY. Dan will be at the OTB's on 37 St.and also 2nd Ave Sunday afternoon alomg with Peter Rotondo and Jessica Pacheco. I look forward to seeing him on 2nd Ave and hopefully any other bloggers who make it.

Looking forward to seeing any bloggers from the NYC area on Sunday afternoon.  I'll be at "The Winners Circle" (515 Seventh Avenue - 38th Street) between 1:00 -3:00 pm, and will head over to "The Inside Track" (991 Second Avenue - between 52nd-53rd Streets) from 3:30 - 6:00.  Would love to talk to anyone that happens to make it!


Didn't see it anywhere, but any1 kno if the winner was claimed?

The Ramseys and Wesley Ward got away with No Speed Limit as she wasn't claimed out of the HandiGambling race.  Speaking of HandiGambling 117, congrats to Tom for earning the most money.  He gets to pick next week's exercise.

Of course, best of luck to Alan in the NHC tournament!  Take 'em down!


Take care,


Tina More than 1 year ago
I just looked again at the mythical P4's we're playing today. I understood that we were allowed to bet $100 on EACH Pick 4 (not total). Is this correct? If so - I revamped a few things last night and this morning and here are my 2 tickets: Santa Anita - 7,8-2,3,9-4,10,1,3,9-2,7,9,12 Gulfstream - 5,11-2,8-1,6,9,10-12,1,3,9,7,8 I hope I didn't misunderstand the guidelines here! :-) At any rate, I wish eveyrone luck today! Tina
Molesap More than 1 year ago
slewofdamascus, I would love to see you elaborate of the FG 8th from the other - I'm in no hurry, but I do not have the PP from that race, so I'm curious about the conditions and how they dictated the winners (plus I would hate to miss another chance!)
slewofdamascus More than 1 year ago
Ju Jitsu Jax has been on my watch list since his maiden win september 9th. This is what it says: "nice win for fattie in mdn win 9/9 Del." "Fattie" has won his first three starts, at 5 and 5 and 1/2 furlongs (twice) in 'off' conditions. If you look at his works, it's pretty fair to say he did this on his own. He did not work or race in October, but with 2 works, a 5 furlong conditioning work on the 1st of november, and 3 furlong blowout on the 6th of november, he won again on the 8th of November. He's been working since December, steadily, for this race, including a nice 4 furlong bullet (1/12) in 47 and change on the 20th of January, tuesday of this week. I'll single him in my main play, as I think his best race is still in front of him. Hopefully the race shape won't conspire against him. In the 9th, Mistical Plan has a Class edge but current form is questionable, just like dearest Tricksi. Like Van Savant, I'll have to take Frankel's filly, Lovely Isle, as my first choice. She was a reasonable second to Porte Bonheur in the fall. Her last race was beautiful, swinging out and getting the money after switching leads in mid stretch. She looked strong, healthy, ready for action, every bit the part. The late lead switch has me a bit concerned, however, this is six furlongs, a "dash" as they say, so I can't single her here, as one late lead change could be the difference between winning and losing by a neck. I will include the rail filly, high resolve. Marina Ballerina ran a close 4th to the above mentioned Porte Bonheur (when PB should have been tighter than when she faced the frankel filly) 2 races back. I'm not sure what happened last time. Is she regressing? A two month freshening ensues. One work since. Mixed signals, she's fast, she's fresh, at .50 cents per it's hard to keep her off wider tickets. Lots of speed here, but not a lot of time to get there if you are closers at only 6 panels. If Mistical Plan comes as her true self, she makes her presence (class) felt late. I would like to see how the track is playing before coming to any real decisions about wagering strategy, unfortunately I won't get a feel for the odds as far as the P4 goes (it's hard to see the two outside horses holding at those low prices, coming off questionable efforts, especially dearest). This is the kind of race where Crist's Exotic Betting would be helpful - I like some a little more than others, but I want to spread, too. [quite honestly, I have a learning disability - add - that makes reading highly technical books difficult, but I'm working on this book slowly, it's hard for me] Still handicapping the other 2 races....
slewofdamascus More than 1 year ago
One quick adendum, so as not to be seen as a total ass - umm, I'm not inferring that Mott can't train a firster, on the contrary I'm well aware of his earlier proficiencies in this matter. Not the point. I am a handicapper, a handicapper who - when handicapping FTSs - lacks a fundamental piece of information, that is: how the horse looks when he's running, and without that, while not entirely lost, I'm up against it. I think a horseplayer without access to inside information, or without access to the morning works that might have tipped him off, has to rely on, among other important quantifying details, trainer stats with first-time starters. And recently Mott does not do well in that category. That's where I'm coming from with that. I liked the Mott firster today, but with nothing visual to dissuade me, I had to bite the bullet and say 'show me'. Show me he did. He's on my watch - that was an impressive score, imo.
slewofdamascus More than 1 year ago
Laura, thanks for that - brought a smile! I think I've found my song when the call comes to the great beyond. Not kidding. Smile. *** To the poster who wrote about Stungbythestorm and the allowance race from the FG: that was an extremely important race, and I'd like to spend some time talking about it. It is my opinion that every competent handicapper should understand the conditions of that particular race, take note of the result, and apply it to early season (Jan/Feb/March, perhaps) handicapping (in this specific NW2 allowance condition) every year for the remainder of his or her handicapping life. What happened in this race will repeat itself over and over again, in this case, to the tune of $70+. If I told you I had a $70+ horse for you 2 or 3 times a year - every year for the rest of your handicapping life - available in the first few months of the season.....is that something that would interest the average handicapper? That race, the condition and the result, is the KEY to those yearly payoffs. I will finish my thoughts on this at a later time, I'm a little busy at the moment, and it will take several thoughtful paragraphs to lay out. Thanks for your patience, and if you have the fairgrounds eighth from Thursday (I think) which included the runner Stungbythestorm, study the race, study the condition, and try to understand why the top two finsihed as they did. There were fundamental factors at work which made them veritable standouts (the order of finish between the top two is relatively unimportant). They shared something unique.
slewofdamascus More than 1 year ago
Alan is doing a tremendous job. I would have gone o-fer in the mandotories today (in my defense, I only handicapped the one race with any alacrity). The tourney leader is a crack up. He handicaps on the fly, and I'd say you'd have to if a Mott firster is on your list of 'bombs'. I think Mott is like 1% with FTSs. Amazing. In any case, very impressed with Alan's job. Very impressed. I have a good feeling about tomorrow for him, because if he can amass what he did on a day like this, anything is possible tomorrow. Great job, Alan!
slewofdamascus More than 1 year ago
I wanted to add, about Hit A Homer, the rail horse, who ran in a productive race first out, the 2nd place finisher beat mcl50k, the two horses directly behind HAH came back to win, at mcl25k and mcl15k respectively. The horse directly in front of him came back to run 4th against straight maidens missing by 3 lengths. Some of these races were at FG. In any case, obviously that was a key event, however, if you notice the connections here dropped out of the key event, switching to turf, off a slight layoff for 2nd career start. Now another drop to 20k and back to dirt for this son of Grand Slam whose damsire is Seattle Slew. Maybe he kills in a laugher. But the story is messed up.
cayman01 More than 1 year ago
HG 117A is a go! We will play races 8-11 at Santa Anita since they are not going with an all stakes Pick4. If I can't find the GP7 pp anywhere we'll skip GP and go with SA only. If somebody has a link to it please post it. IF we do GP remember it's a fifty cent Pick4. SA is a buck minimum.
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Those Magic Kleenex Box Horses keep popping up! Tencentcielo - Discreet Street gives it another try $40K MSW Sunday at Gulfstream. http://www.drf.com/entries/25/eGP25.html#10 I will be popping in and out of Formblog throughout the weekend. 'Gotta keep Uncle Steve out of trouble, root Alan & Michael on (YEA!) and keep Chalky occupied... SR Vegas
cayman01 More than 1 year ago
Dale: I was looking at $2 payouts on that exacta,nad the DRF shows a $2 payout when printing the results. TurfRuler: I'm still working on GP7 , no luck yet. If somebody else has it please post it.