01/27/2009 3:47PM

Eclipse recap, Beyers, questions


Here are the winning Beyer Speed Figures from last week's stakes races:

*Sunshine Millions Dash (GP):  This Ones for Phil (R. Dutrow Jr./E. Prado) - 117

*Sunshine Millions Classic (GP):  It's a Bird (M. Wolfson/J. Leparoux) - 107
*Jimmy Winkfield (Aqu):  Taqarub (K. McLaughlin/A. Garcia) - 103
*Sunshine Millions Sprint (SA):  Georgie Boy (K. Walsh/G. Gomez) - 102
*San Marcos (SA):  Artiste Royal - Ire (N. Drysdale/G. Gomez) - 100
*Sunshine Millions Turf (SA):  Soldier's Dancer (D. Vivian/R. Bejarano) - 100
*Paumonok (Aqu):  True Quality (J. Campo Jr./C. Lopez) - 100

*Palos Verdes (SA):  Johnny Eves (J. Robbins/G. Gomez) - 98
*G Malleah (TuP):  Ducky Drake (B. Hone/M. Villa) - 97
*Kashatreya (Aqu):  Mor Chances (R. Dutrow Jr./R. Migliore) - 97
*Sunshine Millions Filly and Mare Turf (GP):  Wild Promises (G. Gilchrist/A. Gryder) - 97
*Tuzla (SA):  Foxysox - GB (G. Gaines/R. Bejarano) - 96
*Sunshine Millions Filly and Mare Sprint (GP):  High Resolve (G. Gilchrist/R. Albarado) - 96
*Forego (TP):  Sudden Success (P. McGee/R. Prescott) - 95
*Sunshine Millions Distaff (SA):  Leah's Secret (T. Pletcher/E. Coa) - 94
*Retama Park Distaff (Ret):  Nice Inheritance (S. Asmussen/J. Shepherd) - 94
*Marie G. Krantz Memorial (FG):  Stormy West (W. Mott/P. Valenzuela) - 91

*Nellie Morse (Lrl):  All Smiles (F. Campitelli/D. Beckner) - 88
*Smarty Jones (OP):  Flat Out (C. Dickey/J. Garcia) - 87
*Sunshine Millions Oaks (SA):  Beltene (J. Carava/J. Rosario) - 86

*Valid Leader (TuP):  Born With Eagles (M. Pearson/G. Corbett) - 79
*San Pedro (SA):  Congor Bay (M. Casse/P. Husbands) - 78
*Pepsi Cola (Sun):  Waymore's Blues (C. Hartman/K. Tohill) - 78
*Dixie Belle (OP):  Hello Again (M. Yanez/E. Perez) - 73

*Invitational (PM):  Jimbos Fire Ant (B. Root/D. Hoonan-Trujillo) - 65
*OTBA Stallion (PM):  Ex Tremely Cool (J. Nance/C. Jones) - 63

Here are the lifetime past performances for the highest and lowest Beyer stakes performers of the week:

Download ThisOnesCool.pdf


Maybe someone can post G'malleahs lifetime PPs.
Joe Private

Here they are:

Download g_malleah.pdf


hey Dan, given my moniker, can u post Carson City's PPs and if any1 has video of his races id luv to see em

Carson City wasn't only a fast racehorse, but he emerged as one of the best first-out sires of all time.  Here are his past performances:

Download carson_city.pdf


what kind of ride did spanish ice get? jockey never asked that horse to run one inch

It was one of the more curious and frustrating races I watched this weekend.


Re: my MKB horse Giant Oak, I understand he has heads turning at the Fairgrounds.
Mike Romeo

Jessica Pacheco and I were talking during her visit to NYCOTB this past weekend about Derby horses, and she is very high on Giant Oak.  By the way, it was great to see C, Blue Horseshoe, and mpm101 as well as a few lurkers at the OTB branches on Sunday.  Thanks for coming out!


Dan, can please find his PPs for us?  He's not running in $10K claimers anymore, is he?

From the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation website:

"Once one of the top sprinters in the country, Shake You Down finished third in the 2003 Breeders' Cup Sprint and won six stakes races, including the Smile Sprint Handicap and the True North. With age and with the typical aches and pains that often come from a long career, he started to slow down and was racing in $14,000 claimers in early 2007 at Laurel. To their credit, owner Robert Cole and trainer Scott Lake did not want to take any risks with a horse who had been so good to them, so they retired Shake You Down when he was still sound and healthy and donated him to the TRF. A grand-looking chestnut, he exudes class, says TRF farm manager John Evans."

If you would like to help sponsor Shake You Down, please go to the page below:


Here are his lifetime past performances:

Download shake_you_down.pdf


Has anybody heard anything about Spenditallbaby?? She was pulled up early in her race and vanned off.
Steve T

From Steve Anderson's article posted last night at 5:46 pm:

"Spenditallbaby, who was pulled up on the first turn of the Distaff with a sesamoid injury to her right foreleg, may undergo surgery later this week, trainer Barry Abrams said on Sunday.
Abrams emphasized that it was unclear whether Spenditallbaby could survive the injury.
"It's a matter of whether she doesn't get any infection and the circulation is good," Abrams said. "The first time she shows any discomfort, we won't let her suffer. If she can survive the next four or five days, we can save her as a broodmare."
Spenditallbaby has won 5 of 32 starts and $469,173. She has won two stakes for California-breds - the Fleet Treat Stakes at Del Mar in 2007 and the B. Thoughtful Stakes at Hollywood Park last April."

Hopefully, she'll recover.


Does anyone know what happened to Cribnote?  I really thought he had potential.

I've heard that he was injured after the Champagne, but will have to do some more research in the next few days.


Will look into This One's For Phil's Beyer leap over the next few days.  My hunch is that it's a projected figure based on You Luckie Mann's previous numbers, but that is just a hunch.  I'll find out more soon.

Great handicapping by our posters over the last few days with several longshot winners in marquee races.  Also, congrats to our FormBloggers that did so well in the NHC. 

Back tomorrow with HG118 plays.

Take care,


mpm101 More than 1 year ago
HG 118 Here we go again trying to grab the cash, or in this case a months worth of DRF info. Will try and beat the likely favorite, Solitaire, who has faced tough competition as a maiden but the trainer is not the best off of layoffs so will wait on him. Not wild about any horse first back from its maiden anyway so that also eliminates the 3 and 5 horses. Not sure that there is any speed in this race which think will put the 4 in front with the 1,8,9 and 10 horses closest. This could compromise the deep closers of which there are several including the 2,3 and 7. Think the 10 will have the first run and the 12coming from closer than the rest of the closers. Both I think will pass the 4 horse. The plays: $20 WP #10 $10 Ex Box 10/12 $1 Tri - 10,12/1,4,7,10,12/1,2,4,7,10,12 $0.10 Super - 10/1,2,4,7,12 mpm101
gerrys More than 1 year ago
Hg 118 $60 Ex 7,4 $40 Ex 4,7
Peter Vescovo More than 1 year ago
Alan, I looking at the Hutcheson brisnets you so kindly provided for Fri. and the comment line on Capt. Candyman Can is "tentative over shadows" don't know that I've seen that one but only back playing this game for last 3 years. I was at Retama that day watching the simulcasts but it looked like he just was outrun that day. Now I'll have to go searching for a replay of that race to see what these curious comments are about. How would one predict if the horse will not be tentative over shadows the next time or do we need a weather forecast indicating cloud cover to make sure? Just curious?
Johnny Z More than 1 year ago
Calvin, I posted my top 20 Derby list. However it is at the end of previous thread.
Afleet72 More than 1 year ago
HG118 I think the #2 looks like the most likely winner so won't pass him up. Many times we look for value on top and it just is not there. Rest of the race is filled with many that could fill out the ticket. The #7 looks like the type that always falls short. With real $ I would probably pass this race. $1 Tri Box 2-4-5-7-10 = $60 $5 Ex Box 2-4-5 = $30 $1 Tri 2/all/7 = $10
cayman01 More than 1 year ago
Dick W, Much better, I thought you were boxing all four horses and just miss hit the "/" instead of ",". All, keep up those crazy supers and such. I only check the math if you A, win or B, I can figure it in less than sixty seconds. Good luck to everybody in today's excercise. I'm still waiting for some odds.
rr More than 1 year ago
HG118 $50 EXB 5-7. If either scratches, please substitute the 2. I think the 7 is a winner here because has been running out of ground and now gets a bit more distance. That circumstance should negate the lack of speed to set up the closing kick. Good luck.
Dick W More than 1 year ago
HG 118 Well, in my first attempt at HG last week I came up with a big zero, so I can't do any worse this week. I also thought about the first time Dutrow horse - hey a 20 to 30 point Beyer increase should be no problem for Dickie D - right ? But I decided to pass. There are about 6 in here that would not surprise me at all. But I am going with the 1. I know he has been running against cheaper and his beyers are a bit below some of the others. But I like that he has won at the course and also at the distance and it looks to me like Mott has him going in the right direction. I like not just that he won those last 2, but the way he won them. So my bets are: $30 win on # 1 ($30) $10 Ex Box 1 / 2, 4, 7 ($60) $5 Ex Box 1 / 10 ($10)
Stella More than 1 year ago
HG118 Thought I'd take a shot. $40W-$20P #11 = $60 $20 Ex.Bx. 7,11= $40 Thanks and good luck to all.
cayman01 More than 1 year ago
HG118, Seems we have TWO full fields here with sixteen horses to go thru. Good practice for the Derby.Anyway here goes very little....... 1:SOL A PINO, wins two in a row and jockey lands elsewhere. Hmmmmmmmmm. Kent D. on the rail. HHMMMMMMMMM!! He might have finally found his way but several others here are much quicker coming home. I think he's in over his head here and I'll pass on this one. 2:SOLITAIRE, class of the race having won over $200k BEFORE breaking his maiden. Has worked steadily for his return. Trainer is pretty weak with comebackers which might make him vulnerable. he might not win, but he gives 100% and will be in the exotics somewhere. Should also get a beautiful trip setting behind the early speed of the four horse. 3:UNCLE INDY, the first of many stone closers here. he'll be coming late and is a good finisher.Could get compromised by lack of pace, but that could be said for most of the field in this one. Underneath. 4:PLENTY COUPS, if Lezcano doesn't send him he's a fool or Tagg is for telling him to lay back. I don't think that will be the case. I think Tagg yanked Garcia off for trying to be cute in the horse's last race. He can repeat his W2W job from two back.It's just a question of whether he can get the distance and hang on.Also, outstanding works leading up to this return. The pick. 5:SIR MOTT, Prado leaves a winning streak to land here on a horse who is 20 BSF points weaker than the best in this field. Oh, did you say trickie dickie is 31% FT w/ trainer? I'm not leaving him off my tickets...... 6:COOL GATOR, FT turfer is probably hoping for a lot of rain. Pass. 7:ON FIRE, another stone closer who'll be mowing 'em down in the lane. Will he get there? Look at the splits as they are posted. If Plenty Coups gets the first half in 48 or more they'll all be running for second place.On Fire is a good horse who is at the mercy of the pace here. Underneath. 8:TRIPLEKIN, I see that this horse has undergone the "ultimate equipment change". Has it been since his last race? That's the only way I'd give him any chance here. 9:JACK'S ELEVEN, could prompt the pace here and screw up Plenty Coups' designs on the front end. Won't be around at the end. 10:COLONIAL KID, will have to send to get early positionand that could compromise his closing ability.He wants a target to shoot for.Closing kick is consistent if unspectacular. Playable. 11:HOLD YOUR GROUND,two best races came at this distance, but he'll have a lot of work to do to get in good position for the win here. another under. 12:NEW BELIEVER, Hot barn, Hot trainer, Hot j/t trainer combo.....horrible post. Rana nice one fron outside post last time so there's hope, just not a lot of it. AE: The only one that holds any interest for me is PEGASIAN.Preferred stalking style a plus here as he could get position.Still leaning against. Still working up some ticket combos. Back later.......