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Does Eskendereya have a weakness?
The pacefigs for last weekend's preps:
|Race||Winner||Moss Pace Figure line|
|Wood Memorial||Race pacefigs||70-74-86-93-F96|
|Santa Anita Derby||Sidney's Candy||53-63-77-90-F93|
|Illinois Derby||American Lion||60-73-86-92-F92|
Ever noticed that no matter how fast horses run, they always have something left to prove?
So it is with Eskendereya.
He has run by far the fastest of these 3-year-olds, although Lookin At Lucky is no slouch. A mile and a quarter should be a piece of cake. Professionalism appears to be no problem. Todd Pletcher’s 0-for-24 in the Kentucky Derby is meaningless, because he’ll have multiple Derby trophies before you know it.
No, the biggest question Eskendereya must answer is how he will react to what might be a trickier pace scenario in the Derby.
His Florida Derby Wood Memorial paceline closely matches his Fountain of Youth numbers of 64-75-84-92-F95, and in both cases he was within easy striking distance in moderately paced races. But if Eskendereya had been in last year’s Kentucky Derby and had run at that rate of speed, he would have been ninth after a half-mile – and this Derby field should have more speed than last year’s did.
If Eskendereya is 10 lengths off the lead amidst a shower of sand with a half-mile to run, instead of breathing down the neck of the pacesetter, will that professionalism evaporate? And if he is hustled by John Velazquez to stay closer, will he perform as a confused Point Given did in 2001 under similar circumstances? In 2007, Curlin was another who didn’t make that pace adjustment smoothly.
My ESPN colleague Jerry Bailey has also drilled into my head – and he should know – that winning the Kentucky Derby in a 20-horse scrum often requires a horse with quick acceleration and the ability to make multiple moves, enabling a jockey to capitalize on openings as soon as those opportunities appear. We haven’t seen that acceleration from Eskendereya, but to be fair, we weren’t going to see eye-catching bursts in the Fountain of Youth and Wood, given the way those races were run. If the pace is quick enough in the Derby, Eskendereya indeed might streak by horses around the second turn like they were standing still.
These concerns can qualify as nit-picking, especially if a horse has clearly superior talent. There were similar issues with Fusaichi Pegasus in 2000, and he rallied from far back when Kent Desormeaux somehow got through along the rail at every critical stage. Two years ago, Big Brown’s post position draw was disastrous, and it didn’t matter a bit.
Eskendereya is still the horse to beat, and a deserving Derby favorite. I’m just explaining why it sometimes isn’t as easy as it looks on paper. There are always questions to be answered.
SANTA ANITA DERBY
This could be a textbook example for Synthetic Handicapping Quandaries 101.
We know synthetics are much less favorable than dirt to early speed. We know that in Southern California, for example, jockeys have adjusted to this reality by riding less aggressively, and trainers are trying to put less speed into their horses.
But we also see the pendulum occasionally swing too far the other way, when quality front-runners are given such an effortless lead that even on synthetics they become very difficult to catch.
The poster child for the latter scenario is Sidney’s Candy. On dirt, his pacefigs would be that of a deep closer. In the Santa Anita Derby, he led every step.
What this means for the Kentucky Derby is open to much interpretation.
Clearly, Sidney’s Candy has much more natural speed than he has been required to show at Santa Anita. But in a pace battle with Rule, American Lion, and possibly Super Saver and other speed, his easy world could be turned upside down – unless, of course, he’s the kind of horse that can rate patiently and kick past the front-runners with plenty of mile-and-a-quarter stamina.
No one knows if Sidney’s Candy can do that – not John Sadler, not Joe Talamo, and certainly not horseplayers. In my experience, most horses in this situation fail miserably. In my opinion, Sidney's Candy is worth the risk only if he has considerable value on the Derby odds board.
Lookin At Lucky's Santa Anita Derby is a complete throw-out for obvious reasons. At this point, he remains a huge threat to Eskendereya – the primary threat - just as he was two weeks ago.
I find Setsuko a more appealing Kentucky Derby option than Sidney's Candy, assuming he makes the starting lineup. Setsuko was last early behind the leisurely pace, then rallied two paths wider than Lookin At Lucky to be running nicely at the finish. He's bred (Pleasantly Perfect) for dirt and distance, is improving, and will undoubtedly find a faster-paced race more to his liking. Anyone want to loan him another fifty thou?
American Lion got just what he needed – a switch from synthetics to dirt, where on a surface rewarding speed he found a pace scenario that enabled him to run freely and without he restraint he seems to detest.
But American Lion looks like the kind of horse that runs best when allowed to roll, and even when controlling the tempo in a fairly soft-paced Illinois Derby, he didn’t rack up the kind of War Emblem figure that would make him a bona fide classic threat. American Lion ran essentially the same figure with a dream trip in the Illinois Derby that Rule did while encountering pressure from start to finish in the Florida Derby.
His prep win notwithstanding, American Lion looks like a 75-1 shot for the Kentucky Derby.
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All rules are made to be broken but I have one of my own and will continue to use it until it's proven not to work. I take your synthetics comments as relevant. I have not and will not bet on a horse in the Derby (at least to win) who has only run on synthetics and not on dirt prior to the Derby. Pioneer of the Nile came as close as any. Colonel John was a bust(5th I think). And none of the others are worth mentioning. I personally believe that's why Baffert and others ship their horses outside California. That's not to say they won't run well on dirt at some point in time but why add one more unknown variable in a race that is so difficult in these large fields.
with 20 horses in derby its a calvary charge to the first turn. pp draw important i am not using first 3 posts since they have to use there speed early to get position. next i will not use 3 outside positions.they must use speed to get over to position themselves.i know about big brown.i will bet noble promise or looking at lucky in pp 4 thru 16. jockey is only worth 10 percent of equation. as for eskendereya remember bellamy road
What if it's a wet track on Derby day ?? Do you think you'll get another "Go For Gin" wire to wire from a speed horse like Sidney's Candy or American Lion. It's a wet track possibility ?
Totally agree with your interpretation of synthetics. I wouldn't play Sidney's Candy in the Derby if it was a 1 horse field. Eskenderaya looks like the real deal, but I wouldn't overlook Endorsement. Imagine those 2 hooking up at the Belmont!
Great comments about the nuances of synthetic (using your Pace figs, Sidney would be a closer on dirt). I guess all we have to wait for is to see if Noble's Promise improves 2nd time dirt for McPeek. Epsom Derby... I don't think so?
Glad to see at least one of the DRF touts has not given the race to one horse.. This year as many the "outfits" had to get at least two colts in the field .. Their Rabbit and their "Gun" that comes from off the pace.. The first question .. Who can get 10f 2:00.. Does "Esky" look the same in a race with real competition (sure looks the part) ..? Is Sidney tractable (if so will take some catching) ..? Will Looking at Murphy. become Looking at Lucky again (gets a trip) ..? Setsuko, I'd feel better about him "if" he'd ever caught the horses that beat him in the run-out ..? Did Ice Box learned how to get that big motor in gear a little easier/faster/ with more purpose .. if so, look out .. might just hear ... "Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my .... Ice Box has ... etc." ... by the way, I posted what you said (in less words) a few days ago in one of the other blogs at DRF.. Still .. the reinforcement made me smile.. The Derby is becoming a multi-horse on top exotic type wager .. not W_P_S ..
Hey dan c lookin at lucky is not a closer. He is much more a stalker. And esky might become a closer and not a soft trip stalker in the derby when there is a real pace in front of him and we will find out if he is another overhyped east coast derby favorite.
Eskendereya may well win the Derby, but this assertion: "Todd Pletcher’s 0-for-24 in the Kentucky Derby is meaningless, because he’ll have multiple Derby trophies before you know it." is quite ridiculous.
I really think your continual citing of the "synthetics" angle is a little too much, and probably based on cherry picked facts and figures to make your point. I may be wrong, but I don't think so.
I completely agree, my thing is the 2 derbys Giacomo and Min that bird won both had similair circumstances that this derby will likely have once again. That is only 2 horses or less with 106 beyer numbers or above. When there is only 1 or 2 and they dont fire then a free for all insues. The pace will be hot, Esk better be ridden patient or he will be Point Given(worst ride in last 25 yrs in the derby). There will be a Monarchos out there. Someone will decent numbers like 98-105 range that is a DIRT closer. He is out there, maybe Dublin......PS Why isnt Calvin Borel riding Lookin at Lucky, please put Borel on the best closer cause he is BY FAR the best derby rider.......1st, 3rd, 1st last 3 yrs on dead closers.