05/05/2008 3:37PM

Derby recap, Beyers, 'cappers


Here are the winning Beyer Speed Figures for last week's stakes races:

*Westchester (Bel):  Divine Park (K. McLaughlin/A. Garcia) - 111
*Kentucky Derby (CD):  Big Brown (R. Dutrow Jr./K. Desormeaux) - 109
*Churchill Downs (CD):  Elite Squadron (J. Baker/J. Velazquez) - 105
*Turf Classic (CD):  Einstein - Brz (H. Pitts/R. Albarado) - 103
*Nassau County (Bel):  Zaftig (J. Jerkens/J. Chavez) - 101
*Alysheba (CD):  Giant Gizmo (R. Frankel/R. Bejarano) - 100

*Inglewood (Hol):  El Roblar (R. Mandella/V. Espinoza) - 99
*Humana Distaff (CD):  Intangaroo (G. Sherlock/A. Quinonez) - 99
*Bouwerie (Aqu):  Northern Nettie (R. Baker/E. Coa) - 99
*Kentucky Oaks (CD):  Proud Spell (J. Jones/G. Saez) - 99
*Churchill Distaff Turf Mile (CD):  Bayou's Lassie (D. Romans/E. Prado) - 98
*Turf Sprint (CD):  Mr. Nightlinger (W. Calhoun/H. Theriot II) - 98
*Sumter (Crc):  Imawildandcrazyguy (W. Kaplan/M. Cruz) - 97
*Mamzelle (CD):  Just for Keeps (M. Maker/G. Gomez) - 97
*Chris Thomas Turf Classic (Tam):  Revved Up (C. Clement/D. Centeno) - 97
*George Royal (Hst):  True Metropolitan (T. Jordan/M. Gutierrez) - 97
*La Troienne (CD):  Game Face (T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez) - 96
*Queenston (WO):  Not Bourbon (R. Attfield/J. Jones) - 96
*Dashing Beauty (Del):  Cash's Girl (T. Ritchey/P. Morales) - 95
*Shot of Gold (Cby):  Tytus (J. Ness/P. Nolan) - 95
*Jackie Wackie (Crc):  Fearless Eagle (E. Plesa Jr./M. Aguilar) - 94
*Louisville (CD):  Ginger Punch (R. Frankel/R. Bejarano) - 94
*Tony Gatto Dream Big (Atl):  Hesa Big Star (H. Wolfendale/H. Karamanos) - 94
*James B. Tafel Illinois Owners (AP):  Lord Carmen (F. Kirby/R. Zimmerman) - 94
*Panhandle (Mnr):  Bettin On M J (J. Cartagena/G. Almodovar) - 93
*Prairie Rose (PrM):  Sole of the City (R. Brueggemann/I. Karlsson) - 93
*Hawthorne (Hol):  Tough Tiz's Sis (B. Baffert/A. Gryder) - 93
*Tellike (EvD):  Classify (S. Asmussen/D. Meche) - 92
*Need for Speed (EvD):  John Charles (S. Breaux/G. Melancon) - 92
*Route 66 (WRD):  Sumfun (W. Calhoun/C. Kimes) - 92
*American Turf (CD):  Tizdejavu (G. Fox/G. Gomez) - 92
*Seattle (EmD):  Nationhood (M. Chambers/R. Frazier) - 91
*Hasta La Vista (TuP):  Mighty Bodacious (D. Vannorsdel/R. Eikleberry) - 90

*Timeless Native (AP):  Coragil Cat (G. Geier/D. Sanchez) - 87
*Philmont (Pha):  Monsoor (A. Velazquez/A. Prado) - 87
*Prairie Express (PrM):  Magnus One (R. Brueggemann/I. Ocampo) - 86
*Naked Greed (Crc):  Successful Love (M. Azpurua/D. Coa) - 86
*Music Prince (Bel):  Mohegan Sky (L. Rice/A. Garcia) - 85
*Kentucky (CD):  Run Away and Hide (R. Werner/R. Albarado) - 85
*Double Delta (AP):  Dreaming of Liz (W. Catalano/E. Fires) - 84
*Edgewood (CD):  Zee Zee (W. Mott/K. Desormeaux) - 84
*ATBA Sales (TuP):  Big Bug Creek (K. Lewis/S. Gann) - 83
*Babst/Palacios Memorial (Beu):  Catlaunch (I. Vazquez/I. Gonzalez), Dooze (M. Maker/V. Lebron) (*DEAD-HEAT) - 83
*Hookedonthefeelin (Pim):  Dicey D J (L. Rice/A. Napravnik) - 81
*Jack Cole (SrP):  Cattleman Prospect (R. Gonzalez/A. Medellin) - 80

*Angenora (Tdn):  Pay the Man (M. Feliciano/A. Ramgeet) - 79
*Desert Sky (TuP):  Bitterbutsweet (D. Morgan/D. Vergara) - 79
*President's (StP):  Ballintoy (R. Chabot/S. Heiler) - 78
*Al Swihart Memorial (Fon):  Salty Attraction (M. Kirby/L. Delorme) - 78
*Wilma Mankiller (WRD):  Stormin Quality (D. Barton/C. Kimes) - 78
*Mt. Royal (StP):  Dancing Allstar (T. Jordan/Q. Welch) - 77
*Snurb (Crc):  Freedom Afleet (H. Collazo/W. McCauley) - 76
*Inaugural (Boi):  Tracfurtogafur (R. Hyde/D. Crane) - 74
*Alyssa (Beu):  Demanding (C. Vecchio/E. Paucar) - 73

Here are the lifetime past performances for Divine Park:

Download divine_park.pdf


Handicapper(s) of the Week:

Nevertheless, I'll be keying BB on top of Tri's and Super's on top of --
(in order) Coloinel John, Denis of Cork, Pyro, Bob Blackjack, Gayego, Eight Belles, Smooth AIr, and Z Fortune.

I have Big Brown winning. I realize that makes me one of the few here at the Blog, but when a colt has done the things he has done, he just may be that good. That does not mean I am not looking for value, as I am. Just cannot toss the winner. And I feel just about as strongly about Colonel John. The first dirt trip is a concern, as is BB's 3 starts, but good horses can overcome that in the Derby against this field. CJ and BB have worked well over the track.
River Flyer,
Name me the other horse who won from the 12 hole at GP at 9 panels, set fractions of 22 and change and 45 and change, and won going away by 5...Didn't think so. And BTW, Big Brown wasn't even pushing in the stretch, ears were pricked, bit hanging out of his mouth...
BB has come home in the final 5/16 in 28.40 seconds, and he did that in his maiden race. Final 1/16 in 5 flat. My biggest concern is that he has never been challenged.
BB and Col John over and under in my exotics.
Court Vision, Eight Belles, Pyro and Gayego.
Denis of Cork is my live longshot. Borel up and very nice works. Has to step way up. Also like Visionaire to pick up some of the pieces if the pace is strong.
Underneath also will include Z Fortune, and possibly Monba (although I do not know what to make of the BGS).
And I have a bunch of show tickets on several horses, from Cool Coal Man to Recapturetheglory...and a few in between.
My chief bet is a $48 tri-partial wheel 10+20/ 5+9+10+20/ 4+5+6+8+9+10+16+19.
Also playing  an exacta p/wheel and a super p/w.

Big Brown
Eight Belles
chicago gerry

chicago gerry, vicstu and Calibob made some wonderful selections on this year's Derby, and were handsomely rewarded.  Excellent handicapping, and thanks for sharing with the group!!!

Proud Spell-her workout the other day, 58:2, I think-was really good, and her post position, 8, is my lucky number
Big Brown-He's been my Derby crush recently, and maybe he'll have enough speed to get out of the gate quick and get a good position.
Eight Belles-Gotta love any fillies, and she's BIG.  Gary Stevens compared her to Winning Colors, and that's got to accout for something.

Exacta Box A. Chic, Country 
Star, and Golden Doc A.
Trifecta of AC,CS and GDA
over those three plus Pure
Clan, Proud Spell and Bsharp.
Oaks/Derby Double:
The above six with Colonel
John, Big Brown,Pyro,Gayego,
Monba, Bob Black Jack.I'll
also play Country Star and
Awesome Chic with ALL in the
Derby, and then become the
biggest Anak Nakal fan if one
of those two win.
Louisville: Lear's Princess does NOT like the slop.She'll scratch out of this race. GINGER PUNCH loves the slop.
Easy win for her here.
GIANT GIZMO Stalks the upfront duel and then cruises past WB and Jonesboro to get the win over Chelokee and late coming Prom Shoes.
Crown Royal:Hmmmmm, I get 30-1 on Go-Go? have to put a play on TIZDEJAVU. Ascending  speed figures, Go Go, and good stalking position makes this my Dr. Derango Pick.
Aegon: Mr Nightlinger wire to wire.

Chase gave out the Oaks-Derby double cold!  cayman01 also hit the Oaks-Derby double, scored with the Bobby Frankel duo of Ginger Punch and Giant Gizmo, and gave out an excellent longshot winner in Tizdejavu.

My Oaks Day Picks:
- Aegon Turf Sprint: I can't get past the two favs (6)Mr Nightlinger & (8)Indian Ashton
- Louisville: Again, I can't get past the two favs (2) Lear's Princess and (7)Ginger Punch
- Humana Distaff (Race 8)- With (1)Hystericallady on the inside she will be forced to GO. There is a lot of pace in this race and I like (9)Intangaroo to pick up the pieces. I will use (3)Graeme Six, (5)Sugar Swirl and (4)Miss Macy Sue prominently on all tickets too.

8th CD -- Intangaroo is suited by this distance, gets a good pace setup; but she does get the worst of the weights. Also 12-1 ml

Several nice selections here including longshot Intangaroo in the Humana Distaff.

CD7 Edgewood150K (8.5fT 3yoFil): #1 Zee Zee (ML:7/2) -> 2nd-off layoff and back to turf; 1st-off was not bad 5th in G2 Beaumont; 2nd to NowNowNow in the WithAnticptn  on Spa turf last summer. Alan

Zee Zee rode the speed-favoring turf course to a nice victory for the Zayat/Mott team.

KY OAKS: Proud Spell, Pure Clan, Bsharpsonata, Little Belle.

billg gave out the winner of the Kentucky Oaks, and had the triple boxed as well.

Race 8: Absolutely LOVE #5 Giant Gizmo (5/1 ML) today.  In his last race at Santa Anita, he beat 2007 Lexington Stakes winner Slew's Tizzy and San Juan Capistrano runner up Warning Zone that day.  He has a touch of class off that and has a bullet workout for this.  Rafael Bejarnao-Frankel are very good together.  2-2 at the distance helps, too.
Mike Bench

R8: LOVE Giant Gizmo also (5-1). Synth to dirt, bullet breeze, sit off the anticipated fast pace.
R6: Game Face (7-2) will probably win but there should be a fast pace and I'll figure out which way to use Tiz to Dream and Minewander.

Giant Gizmo ran down the speeds at a $12.60 mutuel. 

EINSTEIN as my key play

I really like Einstein here. He’s been O-fer at Churchill but now’s the time to turn it around. Let’s hope he likes the turf, Albarado, and is the speed of light for some cash.
To keep it quick, my players in the Derby are:
20 - Big Brown...


When Einstein is right, he's one of the best turf horses in the country. 

After reading and then going back/forth/back/forth/sideways/over/twisted/arrrrgggh
ok....I think you get the picture.
For better or worse, I'm going to stick with my earlier picks.
(they are also RTTR driven)
Big Brown...
SR Vegas

Derby Note:
Pyro working this AM in bar shoes? On the ground reports have this as fact. Is he racing in those? Shades of Scat Daddy...

Toss for the win for sure.
I like BB...

May 3: Big Brown eagerly pulls his way to the lead leaving the first turn, & is still on top as they turn for home in the Derby. Then, running greenly and getting leg-weary in deep stretch, he barely holds off the cavalry charge of Pyro, Colonel John, and Denis of Cork to win by a narrowing length.

What can 'Brown do for Hasenji,  SR Vegas and svhill?  Win the Derby, that's what!

R6 Louisville - Ginger Punch

5-6,8,3,4 (Mr. Nightlinger)
12-3,2,11,9 (Pious Ashley)
larry k

La Troienne: Game Face

English 1000 Guineas:

Nice picks by the entire group this weekend.  Thanks for posting!


Be back Wednesday with a Past Champion Retrospective, and a look ahead to the Preakness.



Sal Viola More than 1 year ago
Dan: The comment by Mr Dutrow that this horse is the best to ever race is ludicris,excuse my spelling if it's wrong. This horse has beaten nothing but low grade horses and he doesn't remember horses like John Henry and many others. I have seen the best run since many years ago Santa Anita was the premier race track in the country,and they had the best of the best running back in the sixties and later. As for one blog i read i disagree that this artificial surface is as good as dirt, i hope people respect other peoples opinion as i respect theirs, this is what racing is all about.If we are lucky enough to Brown run as a four year old my views on him might change but unlikely too.
Sal Viola More than 1 year ago
Dan; i HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. Do you think those new shoes the horse wore made a difference between him and the other colts who wore cheaper shoes? Also maybe there should be a rule in the triple crown that all horses wear the new shoes. Sal
glen howard More than 1 year ago
I just got around to reading blog comments on eight belles. If anyone remembers I was the first one to tip off blog readers about Belles while was still at the fairgrounds & unknown. It just so happens that I am privleged to get information from horselovers. you can rest assured that when the dust settles Belles will have been found to have no steriods,no medicines in her system that are illegal, banned or suspicious in the least. The only thing Belles had was a heart as big&competitive as Secretariat's. I feel quilty because every time but that Saturday she stepped on the track to race I said a prayer for her to get home safe to the barn. I was so excited I forget, so I think the Lord decided to take her home to his house that way she would never be forgotten in any realm. I also know that everyone connected to her is DEVASTED and would give all to have her ok. I salute the hearts of all champion thoroughbreds for that is what makes them champions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just Jane More than 1 year ago
I think it hasn't sunk in just how much of a nightmare it will be before it's over. PETA isn't playing games. My mother comes from a farming family, and my aunt and uncle still run a very large dairy farm. Just wait until the Animal Liberation Front (PETA's terrorist arm) arrives. My aunt and uncle have experienced things like cows herded out of their pastures on to the main road (they call that liberating the animal!) and out buildings and crops being burned. Fortunately the tracks already have excellent security, but just how secure are the farms? The only way to fight the ALF is to actually have enough manpower to catch them in the act. I just wonder how many stallions, mares, and foals will be injured or die before the farms get heavy enough security. Of course, the small farms will never be able to have heavy enough security. Start praying people. This is going to get a whole hellva LOT worse than letters and picketers before it's over. I can't stress enough the sheer hell my aunt and uncle went through at the hands of the ALF - and for all we know, it's not really over for them. Imagine getting a call at 2 in the morning from a neighbor telling you that your hay field is on fire, and the fire is headed straight for your cow pasture. Try getting up at 3:30 in the morning to start milking cows at 4:00, looking out your bathroom window, and discovering the garage housing your tractors is on fire. Or a knock on your door in the middle of the night, and it's the state police telling you that several of your cows are loose and at least one has been hit by a car out on the main road - which is almost a mile from your farm. And they always leave their calling card - they take responsibility. They are truly terrorists. Don't take this lightly. Horse racing is in big trouble - a whole different kind of trouble than you've imagined yet.
Lady Slew More than 1 year ago
Sun G, It would not surprise me to learn that they tried to call Jones but could not. 150,000 people all trying to use cell phones at once makes for a lot of calls that don't connect. I'm sure you diddn't think about that. After all, we take our phone for granted and expect that they always work every time we pick them up. But having been to big events like this, I know I've tried to make calls and had problems. It's probably happened to you a time or two as well if you stop to think. Or maybe they just figured he'd be heading down to collect her after the race anyway, and didn't expect it to take as long as it did for him to get there. Who knows. Perhaps they just plain cared more for what was right for the filly as a living being than as property or an insurance claim. Things happen fast in an emergency, and people often make decisions they regret later. Maybe these people are wishing they'd done it differently; somebody somewhere might still be thinking to themselves that if they had it to do over again they would have called. The point is, none of us were there making the actual decisions. We don't know what exactly happened in those few minutes.
joedracer79 More than 1 year ago
circuit rider your right on its to bad if you dont agree you get slammed all women but eight belles as a gender issue and not the issue that she was stolen from us her fans by incompetent people who need there claim to fame .the derby..they ll be back next year with another horse but i myself will always remember one of the most special female horses in the game ..If there is no difference in colts and fillys why has there only been 4 that have won.. and at her best you can not compare rags to riches with any other filly ..victsu circuit rider thanks for speaking whats on your mine,i appreciate it.it means more when its from the heart
Jeff Tatus More than 1 year ago
Katieattherail... Good point regarding Big Brown. I said the same thing to all my friends when he came back (after Dumping jockey KD). He was barely sweating and didn't appear to be able to "blow out" the proverbial candle. While I see real talent in this, I can't help but think that there's really not too much competition at his current level. If he improves... look out. The true test is what all have been saying. Come October, let's see how he races against real good horses... like Curlin.
Zeus More than 1 year ago
Big Brown ran a hell of a race! But I must say the competition did not show up that day. Don't get me wrong I am taking nothing away from Big Brown; but seriously that race fell apart. Watching it made me sick!! One week my good friend told me that horse would get a trip similar to Barbaro, 4-5, no dirt getting kicked in his face, and when the time came for Big Brown to make a move everyone sat back and watched Desormeaux flick the reigns. Personally I liked Z-Fortune, if and only if he drew a post position from the 7 to the 1. If Z-Fortune gets caught wide in turns he does not have the closing speed to catch a front runner (watch his last 3 before the derby). Now I'm not z-fortune would have won but he stalked the Fla. Derby winner the whole time. And unfortunately he let Tale of Ekati push him around down the back strech; thus forcing my pick to take a wide run at the stretch after Big Brown was already taking command. I still believe that Big Brown is untested, he has never had to deal with any type of adversity in a race. But, I am from Louisville and I love the Kentucky Derby. With that said Big Brown is a deserving derby winner; however he will not win the Triple Crown!! Big Brown should win the Preakness (like most Kentucky Derby Winners)but when it comes to a mile and a half it is anyones race. A couple names to watch out for in the Belmont Stakes : Denis of Cork, Z-Fortune, Gayego, Proud Spell, and if they do not run in the Preakness Recapturetheglory and Harlem Rocker.
Danny B. More than 1 year ago
I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Frank Stonarch and Steve Assmussen get together to talk about the Breeder's Cup. I know that cushion isn't the same as polytrack, but Assmussen hasn't shown to be fond of the synthetics in general. If he points Curlin away from Santa Anita, the conversation between Mr. Energy Drink and him could be quite entertaining. We just might see dirt one more time at Santa Anita yet. Stonarch knows he has to have Curlin vs. Big Brown in the Breeders Cup and it wouldn't shock me at all if he lays down the dirt to ensure it. We'll see, but like I said, I'd love to listen to the conversation if Curlin doesn't go..... Lots of great posts in regards to the Derby. Congrats to everyone who scored, the tributes to Eight Belles, and other debates. All worthwhile, thoughtful, and dedicated.
Lady Slew More than 1 year ago
joedracer79, A lot of it has to do with there being so few fillies that have entered. while it is very common in the UK, Europe, and elsewhere for colts and fillies to run against each other, for some reason it's not at all common in the USA. In 134 runnings only 39 fillies have been entered. Of those 39, 7 went off as the favorite. 10 of them finished in the money. Only 3 (not 4) won: Regret (as the favorite), Genuine Risk, and Winning Colors. For more on fillies in the Derby: http://horseracing.about.com/od/triplecrown2000/a/aakdfillies.htm