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12:03 pm: Two minutes to the first at Churchill Downs. Track is good to fast with no further rain in the forecast:

Putting in an unimaginative caveman pick-5 just to have a little rooting interest early in the day:
1,8/1,3,8/3,6,9,11/4,5,7,13/1,5,7,8 = 384 @ $0.50 = $192
Ladies' Classic winner Royal Delta (104) and runner-up It's Tricky (100) were the only horses to earn triple-digit Beyers on Friday's card. The other Cup race preliminary winning figs: Perfect Shirt (FMT) 99; Musical Romance (FMS) 98; Secret Circle (JS) 95; Stephaie's Kitten (JFT) 87; My Miss Aurelia (JF) -86.
These are preliminary figures, subject to adjustment, and will be debated in the days ahead. The Friday track changed as it dried out and it's very tough to put some of the early and late races together in a sensible way. The Juvenile Fillies seems counterintuitively low, but it's hard to rate a mile and a sixteenth in 1:46.00 much higher when the Ladies' Classic was run in 1:50.78 (despite a slower pace) just an hour later.
12:40 pm: Two runaway victories by short-priced homebred 3-year-old fillies to start the card.
Jump Up ($4.00), a Jump Start filly bred and owned by Edmond Hudon and trained by Eddie Kenneally, won her debut at Keeneland Oct. 7 going six furlongs, and improved today moving to dirt and stretching out to a mile. Today she turned back early challenges from stakes-placed Shared Heart, the 8-5 second choice, through 6f in 1:10.96 then drew off by herself finishing the mile in 1:37.21.
In the 2nd, Salty Strike ($6.60) rallied strongly from behind a quick pace, getting through on the rail and winning the $85k Dream Supreme Stakes going away in 1:10.10 for 6f. The daughter of Smart Strike, bred and owned by Craig Singer and trained by Ken McPeek, was taking a sharp class drop today after facing G1 company in the Mother Goose and Test over the summer.
Don't forget that the rest of today's multirace exotics start in different places than they did yesterday due to a 12-race vs. 10-race card. The first pick-4 is on races 4-7 and starts with the Juvenile Turf at 2:02 pm ET. The pick-6 on races 6-11 begins with the Turf Sprint at 3:21, and the late pick-4 of the Turf, Juvenile, Mile and Classic is scheduled to start at 4:45 pm.
On to the Marathon, scheduled to go at 1:20 pm. With $200k in the win pool, Brigantin, Cease, A. U. Miner and Birdrun are closely bunched at 9-2/5-1 with Giant Oak and Meeznah close behind at 6-1/7-1.
1:35 pm: Personally I would have needed the all button to use 41-1 Afleet Again, but I don't think any result in the BC Marathon can be called "shocking," the word of choice among TV commentators moments after the race. This is a novelty race that just hasn't worked out very well in any of its runnings, a bafflement to horsemen and handicappers that proves nothing and has not led to a renaissance of long-distance racing.
The ingredients for the long-priced winner included a surprisingly fast early pace that cooked those close to it, failures by the European entrants to handle the dirt, and an apparent breakdown by favored A. U. Miner.
Someone had to win, and Afleet Again is a solid citizen who won the Withers and was 4th in the Travers last year as a 3-year-old. The Afleet Alex colt, owned by the Kasey K Stable and trained by Butch Reid, paid $85.20 and keyed a $668.40 exacta, $4,147.40 tri and $39, 533.20 superfecta. It will be interesting to see if he was more or less than 41-1 in the pick-5.
2:05 pm: The early pick-4 play, which leans heavily on my published top picks as A's in each leg:

2:20 pm: Wrote at 11-1 was a good pick-4 start but good thing I didn't invest in any intrarace bets because I could not have come up with 33-1 Excaper, a very good second. Wrote, a Coolmore runner by High Chapparal, was coming off a somewhat troubled third in a Group 2 in England, which is enough to have an edge on the Americans. For what it's worth, Wrote was soundly beaten last time out by Daddy Long Legs, another Coolmore runner, but I don't know that this result upgrades that one's chances in the Juvenile since he'll be trying dirt for the first time later today.
2:30 pm: Jackson Bend a surprisingly standout favorite in the Sprint, currently 2-1 with the next five public choices in the 5-1/6-1 neighborhood.
2:55 pm: Amazombie ($17.80) collared Force Freeze to win the Sprint with Jackson Bend a too-late third. It was the fifth victory this year for the 5-year-old Northern Afleet gelding, and his season-ending Grade 1 victories in the Ancient Title and now the BC Sprint appear to make him a clear choice for the champion sprinter Eclipse.
The pick-5 paid $284k for $2 ($71,051.80 for 50 cents.)
Halfway through a promising pick-4 and on to the pick-6, where I came in $40 under my $2k budget. I'm leaning on Union Rags and Goldikova and used all 14 of them in the Sprint -- 4 A's, 3 B's and 7 C's -- just so I don't get knocked out of everything in a chaotic race where I never have any confidence:

3:35 pm: Regally Ready at $6.60 wasn't the sexiest result but he was clearly best and deserving in victory. The 4-year-old More Than Ready gelding, owned by Vinery Stables and trained by Steve Asmussen, has won 6 of 9 starts this year all over the continent, taking the G3 San Simeon at Santa Anita, the G1 Nearctic at Woodbine and the Churchill Downs Turf Sprint. If there were an Eclipse for turf sprinters, he'd get it in a walkover.
The early pick-4 $2 willpays range from $3963 on Wilburn and $4362 on Trappe Shot to $50k on Tres Borrachos.
4:10 pm: Caleb's Posse confirmed what a superior one-turn racehorse he is with an electrifying victory from far back to run down Shackleford and win the Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile.
Caleb's Posse returned $15.60 and completed an early pick-4 that paid $7141 for $2. Yes, I pressed the AAAA ticket a little.
Caleb's Posse, a 3-year-old Posse colt bred and owned by Don McNeill and trained by Donnie Von Hemel, has a career record of 8 for 16 but is 4 for 4 in one-turn dirt races and 3 for 3 with Rajov Maragh, who rode him with supreme confidence. His explosive late move today was similar to the ones that carried him to victory in the Amsterdam and the King's Bishop at Saratoga, where he ran down the comebacking Uncle Mo in the latter.
5:05 pm: St Nicholas Abbey won the $3 million Turf for the Coolmore/O'Brien gang but they're likelier to win the male-turf Eclipse Award with Cape Blanco.
St Nicholas Abbey ($15.60), a 4-year-old by Montjeu, won the G1 Coronation Cup earlier this year but lost his last three starts in major European races, running third to Nathaniel and Worforce in the King George VI &QEII, third in the Prix Foy to Sarafina (4th today) and most recently 5th (though beaten only a length for second) in the Arc.
Cape Blanco won the Man o'War, Arlington Million and Joe Hirsch Turf Classic, coming out of the last of those races with a career-ending injury.
I assumed St. Nicholas Abbey was named for some dank Britisah church and graveyard but apparently it's a plantation in Barbados and one of only three surviving Jacobean mansions in the Western Hemisphere. And they say betting horses isn't educational.
5:50 pm: Oh well.
Have a feeling we're going to see that Hansen/Union Rags stretch run a lot over the months ahead and arguing over whether Union Rags squandered what looked like a certain victory by wandering around the stretch or whether Hansen gamely dug in and turned him back.
And now Goldikova's bid for an incredible fourth Mile, and then the Classic. Going to sit back and watch and I'll be back when it's all over.
6:45 pm: What's more surprising -- Court Vision winning the Mile at 64-1 or that Goldikova wasn't disqualified from 3rd? Okay, Court Vision by a nose, on that prop and at the wire over Turallure.
Goldikova swung out of the rail in upper stretch, causing Valenzuela to snatch up and steady on Courageous Cat. On ESPN, Jerry Bailey and Randy Moss said it was only a matter of how far back the stewards would place her, and were flabbergasted when the lights stopped blinking and no change was made.
Honestly, if I hadn't done that chart of the leading earners in this BC (at $2.66 million, Court Vision ranked 6t among the 180 entrants a few days ago, I might not have remembered he was in the race. Has a horse ever won a Cup race after failing to finish in the top 3 in his six most recent starts? The first of those finishes was a 5th behind Goldikova in last year's Mile, and he subsequently had three 4ths, a 7th and a 9th. Last time out he was 7th behind Turallure and Courageous Cat in the Woodbine Mile.
This was Court Vision's third try at the Mile and at Goldikova. When trained by Rick Dutrow, he was 4th in 2009 and 5th last year. Dale ROmans took over his training two starts ago when the son of Gulch was purchased as a stallion prospect by B. Wayne Hughes.
You took a bad beat if you liked Turallure, but at least he wasn't the 39-1 Joe Tessitore kept saying he was -- that was the price on Compliance Officer. Turallure was 11-1.
Flat Out and Havre de Grace are the only pick-4 willpays at less than $100k for $2. Npo idea exactly what's going on in the pick-6, where 5/6 is probably going to be good enough for the front end of the pool. The willpays posted on TVG say "6/6" but make more sense if they're for 5/6 and range from $4,442 on Flat Out to $2.2 million for RUler on Ice or Rattlesnake Bridge. If you were only getting $4k for a 6/6 including Court Vision, it would mean the Drezel gang's out of the pokey and back in business.
7:30 pm: That's horse racing. Drosselmeyer($31.60) and Ruler on Ice, two Belmont Stakes winners who hadn't won a race of importance before or since, run 1-3 and Game On Dude might have been best holding second between them. Havre de Grace and Flat Out were a mild 4th and 5th after Uncle Mo took his shot and faded late. Under five lengths separated the first eight under the wire.
I can not recall a year in the Breeders' Cup era when in the wake of the Classic there is no clear choice for champion 3-year-old, champion older horse or Horse of the Year. At least we've got plenty to argue about from here to January.
Rich H.:
You make a good point on the closing of NYC OTB, but I don't that had THAT big of an impact on handle. It certainly had some, but not as much as you might think, especially since many of those people could go to The Meadowlands for the BC as well.
The winter storm to me did much more damage because it impacted a much bigger area of the northeast. There were some parts that were without power through the Breeders' Cup and many people were in survival mode for the better part of a week, in many cases having to divert funds slated for the BC to getting winter supplies and/or other things on short notice. That storm caught many off guard, and that likely was the main reason for the drop in handle.
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While I feel your pain regarding Saturday's resutlts, I wanted to comment on Court Vision. I can't remember ever being so mad myself after watching the Mile. Court Vision shattered all my pick-4 tickets after doing well with 2 A's in the 1st two legs. I had to go back to the replays & look at the PP to see what I missed. Here is what I think. This horse has back class. He was only 3 lengths behind Goldikova last year. He was only 3 lengths behind Turallure in his last. He won the Woodbine Mile last year. Second race with Romans seems like a positive too. I may be off on this next note, but I think I remember Dutrow always saying how this one was not his best in the hot weather...that once the weather started to cool, he would excel. Look at his past races in October, somewhat supports this. Another thing to note, look at the ride Albarado gave him. He knew it was going to be a traffic mess inside, he gave his horse a chance by keeping him out of trouble and making a run at the end. As a handicapper I maybe could of used a similar thought process. Knowing that it was a decent size field, possibly I should of given a horse like Court Vision a chance to improve a couple of lengths on some of the entrys that were so much better than him. Could it be possible, that enough horses would have that much trouble? Well, sure...what better scenario for that. A big field run in a turf race where they go slow early and its a mad dash at the end. I know this is all hindsight, I just disagree on what you said about not being able to pick this horse after proper handicapping. Given the odds, I tip my hat to anyone who was able to pick him. They obviously saw what we missed. As for Afleet Again, you deserve to lose money for betting a 1 3/4 dirt race.
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LET US NOT FORGET ACCLAMATION FOLKS HE ACTUALY HAS THE BEST RECORD TO CONTRIBUTE TO HOY
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Breeders Cup 2009 I couldn't do anything wrong. I made my DRF hum. Working the numbers and the articles, I started the second day with $25 and had a $1,300 day with 10 cent supers and one exact returning $700 for dollar key box. 2010, good handicapping, preparation, paying attention throughout, my ticket composition was poor (by hindsight) and sent me away minus $250. This year, with great study and picking in advance four long shots, 2 plays over 40 to one, two 10-1s, nada, nothing. And a loss of about $100. Played all supers both days. But that's the game. Sometimes bloggers and experienced players sound as if they are or should have been the anointed ones on the BC plays because they are advanced players. As if it was suppose to be our day. I don't press the $ when I lose.
And continually return with a bankroll that's in my budget, for the meet, or the day, or the lifetime, played 30 years, and potential to play 30 more. I don't reach into my wallet or visit the ATM.
So on days when results just do not figure, I remind myself of boxing matches where one fighter is just pounding the heck out of his opponent. And the famous referee Arthur Mercante jumps in, puts his arms around the pummeled boxer and says, "it's not your day."
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First.... congrats to Foster on his $32.00 P6 ticket for 95K.
Steve... the number of the winner in the Marathon is the #8 (not the #4/four) The early Pick 3 was an 8-8-8 for a little over a thousand bucks. I know this because the 7/8 were the only horses I didn't use in it.
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Totally off subject but I have to vent about DRF. Not to pucker up, but I truly admire you Steve for handicapping and more important, bringing humor and honesty to the writing and live appearances. I continue to point friends to this blog, books and columns so that they can understand the potential fun of handicapping on a deeper level of intellectual puzzle. The biggest hump for me to get friends to bet is the belief that the game is fixed and the lack of potential for lottery style payoffs-you provide both, congrats to you.
But the DRF coverage of the Santa Anita meet is just really bad...The article titled “Santa Anita Park Meet Finishes Strong” could not be more wrong on the facts and is nothing but a cheerleading press release for the Stonarch team. Hollywood Park last year averaged over $500,000 more per day in handle (its in the article.) That is beyond a significant drop and no comment about the drop in Pick 6 handle? When was the last time you had carryovers below $50,000 in Southern California racing? Yet that was the meet at Santa Anita this year...
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Hi (and in review),
...The telecast needs to get younger and hipper. "
Twas mean by Johnny Bwell, but it did make me laugh.
And as pointed out last year, there are still Grade 1 races to run - so HOY is still up for grabs.
Cape Clanco for turf horse and, perhaps, the new leader in the (true) Clubhouse for HOY, as he is retired. HDG, a real disappointment. And yet...
Free gave you Amazombie.
Beyer gave you Hansen.
Steve gave you Caleb's Posse.
So what is the problem?
Exactly.
Lastly, DRF Bets is just a wonderful betting platform and leaves me wondering why I took so long to commit.
Thanks, as always.
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HOY and Turf... Cape Blanco
Older horse ... Tizway
Older F or M ... Havre de Grace
Sprinter ... Amazombie
3YO ... Caleb's Posse
3YO Filly ... Royal Delta
2YO Colt ... Hansen
2YO Filly ... My Miss Aurelia
18YO ... Joseph O'Brien
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Anyone who enjoyed BC Saturday because of the prices is not a true handicapper. There is absolutley no way you could bet Court Vision of this years 4-0-0-0 past performances. Like most of us I am alsways looking for value and trying to beat false or overbet favorites. I did like Ambozombie and the O'brien Euro turf winner. But Afleet Again and even more Court Vision were beyound anything but a play of numbers or betting th longest shot in the race, or I am guess in most cases the "liquered up plays of unimformed novice bravado." For real horse players who have done thier homework, these type of horses ruin our long awaited day of championship racing.
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For HoY, why not Royal Delta, Amazombie, or My Miss Aurelia?
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Todd Pletcher saying the track condition helped contribute to Uncle Mo's poor performance. Please Todd!!! Horse should have never ran in race, should have kept him at the Big A. This shows Greed not common sense. Uncle Mo deserves to be retired and enjoy the good life!!!!
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Well, Glenn I'm glad I'm such an idiot handicapper, because I had my best BC ever, because of Hansen. P3s Caleb/Shack to 5 Euros to Hansen/Rags w All (Court Vision) two great P3's. I really couldn't believe Hansen was 7-1, thought he should have been closer to 4-1, he had absolutely destroyed two fields at Turfway. I saw both races and thought he was indeed something special. Looks like he was yesterday!
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Hi Steve, congrats to Mike Smith inspite of that heartbreak loss on Queen Z 2010 and an awfully slow year,he has shown what a fit and determine competitor he is. Looking at the classic on the over camera this was a freakish fit man driving for all his worth in the lane.
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Hi Steve,
Just a couple rambling thoughts on the BC races last weekend.
Very difficult card to Handciapp but I still managed a decent profit for the BC event. My financial salvation occured in the Classic when I Key Boxed Drosselmeyer with Game On Dude and Flat Out. My Handicappping System had these three on top but most importantly was "D's" winning race at CD in 2010 and Mike Smith back on board after His winning ride in the 2010 Belmont Stakes. In short. "D" loves the CD surface and Mike Smith!
One minor complaint. Why in thre world did the BC run races under the lights on Friday and Satirday evening? Racing was designed and is most enjoyable during the Daylight Hours. Hopefuly, BC will reconsider it's unnecessary and flawed decison to run races at Night.
Oner final thought: "D" is my early choice for HOY. He beat the best avaiable in the Classic, the World's Best Horse Race!
Good Luck and Good Health, Always!
Diceman
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Horse of the year ? Why Royal Delta of course.
Trainer of the year? Bill Mott
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It was another great weekend for horse racing. My key observation is that in big money races like the BC the jockeys get excited and try not to be too far back and that leads to a hot pace and the horses with less speed have a great chance despite their odds.....eg Afleet Again, Court vision, Calebs posse, drosselmeyer. Pace seems to play just as big a factor as class. The most impressive horse of the weekend to me was Game on dude....
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HOY -- Rapid Redux in a hand ride. In a year where no horse seemingly has the typical credentials, might as well go outside the box and reward a truly remarkable achievement.
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Would be great if NYRA could get Calebs Posse, Shackleford, Game On Dude and Uncle Mo to square off in the Cigar Mile. Even better would be a Hansen- Rags rematch in the Remsen.
Might even get me to fight the Racino traffic and go out there.
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Talking about the stewards and their crazy decisions this weekend... How could they DQ the winner of the 2nd on Friday for what he did and then not DQ Goldie on Saturday. Both of those decisions were horrible. There was no video and reason for DQ shown at Monmouth Park's video feed on Friday. The simulcast was not like a normal simulcast feed. On any other day you would have had the track's video feed and that was not the case. With the decisions the stewards made makes the players question the integrity of the game. The stewards are there to protect the players and they failed when there were objections lodged. This is the 2nd time that racing showed why it is where it is on their biggest day. The PICK 6 scandal and this weekend's decision by the stewards. It is time to reevaluate and change the way things are done. It is time to have uniform rules and one governing body for the whole country. We need to get rid of the cronies who don't want to change because they are lining their pockets with things the way they are now. Monmouth(summer elite meet 2010), Keeneland, Saratoga, Del Mar and Europe's racing schedules have shown that if you put together quality racing at various boutique meets racing will thrive. I suggest a national circuit with levels of racing similar to baseball Major league, Triple A, Double A and Single A. Eliminate some tracks and their overhead and assign tracks that have the capacity to entertain boutique live racing dates . Have the various levels of racing
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Peat Moss:
In a year like this, you do take Caleb's Posse to Hollywood Park and put him on the turf. Since this is the three year old title, he likely needs a win at 1 1/4 Miles to impress some voters, and that's why I said the Hollywood Derby. He could also run in the 1 1/16 Mile Citation (also on turf at Hollywood that same weekend) against older horses. A Grade 1 on turf with a BC win might be enough in a year like this.
As for Havre de Grace, I think Larry Jones now has to send her to Hollywood for the Citation. She wins that race, it ends the HOY discussion.
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@Glenn...wut do u mean with ur comments on hansen? Connections noone has ever heard of? Are u joking, u have never heard of mike maker? Do u ever watch horse racing any day other than breeders cup day? Hansen was my bet of the cup!!! I loved the cup this year, made a killing in fact...the only horse that shocked me was court vision....how can u say if u look at the form u couldn't have drosselmeyer? He was one of 3 horses who were proven at the distance....its clear that your a chalk player, and that's fine...but its days like Saturday with the big payoffs that keep players coming back...we don't invest hours reading the form, and invest 100's into multi-race wagers to have 4/5 cross the line first everytime
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Steve, why no carryover in the pick six? Did breeders cup say they were going to pay out the pool on that day.
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3 year old horse is easy animal kingdom by default.. older horse of the year easy too Rapid Redux 20 for 20
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Churchill Downs should double the purse of the Clark and try to lure some of the top contenders for one more good handicap race before year end. It is wide open for HOY. The HP 2yo races in December also now have more significance.
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Well - small measure of revenge for those who thought Game On Dude should have been DQd in the big Cap. Chantal is a talented rider but has always seemed weak in the stretch to me - which helped cause the Big Cap trouble.
Baffert stopped barely short of criticizing Chantal's ride on TV right after the Classic. When asked about how great Chantal was he hesitated, then said it was too bad that Game On Dude hadn't been given the chance to see Drosselmeyer coming - i.e. what was Chantal doing down by the rail? Usually when horses have a clear lead in late stretch, a good jock will let them drift out to hook whoever might be coming. Instead, Chantal let the Dude drift in on the rail and, if you look closely - her riding form just seems to fall apart.
Up until then, Chantal's ride was brilliant. After getting a flier out of the gate - in Trevor Denman's words - she set a quick 23 and change fraction and then lulled the other pacesetters to sleep with slower and slower fractions to the turn when Mo and the gang finally turned it on. But still - she may not get many more mounts from Baffert, who seemed clearly unhappy with the result.
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Another nail in the coffin of thoroughbred racing. On the day of days another few thousand gamblers turned off forever. I may be one of them. Nine races. 2 were won by Europeans that, I suppose made some sense. But the European form has virtually no information. All the fun of handicapping. Of analyzing running lines and pace and trip are absent. No fun. Nothing to do with the game we all love.
Three races -- the dirt mile, the turf sprint and the sprint were won by reasonable horses that figured in some reasonable playable way. Caleb's Posse almost saved my day and was my one and only 'smart' pick.
One race, the classic, was won by a horse that was a major underlay at 14-1 -- not impossible or weird, but very unlikely, a horse that pretty much no one who buys the form and analyzed the race in a serious way would have.
One race, the juvenile, was won by a horse that was the idiot's horse. He was a huge underlay, having basically had two public workouts -- connections no one ever heard of, a frontrunner on a track that seemed to be playing from behind, at 7-1 he was also an underlay that few serious horseplayers would have bet.
And then we have afleet again -- zero form, easily the first toss out -- a completely ridiculous result.
And finally court vision. I don't know what to say about this -- a g3 level at best horse, totally off form, beating an absolutely stellar field that included the best grass miler of all time and any number of other top notch animals in top form. This was easily the strongest race of the day and it was won by a horse that would have been a longshot in an overnight stakes at aqueduct.
All in all a day which made those of us who love horse racing but think that we get a much better gambling deal playing poker, more confirmed than ever in that opinion.
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after a tepid 6f in 1:12.82 they come home in 25.45 - 26.00. what has become of american racing? i pulled out my champions book and looked up kelso. he ran 1 1/4 miles 18 times. the slowest time was 2:03 1/5. i have not seen the beyer numbers for saturday but i can't imagine that drosselmeyer gets over 100. i see where some have suggested rapid redux for hose of the year. on october 14th rapid redux ran 1 1/8 miles in 1:51 4/5ths at chuck town around 3 turns. who is to say he might not have won the classic on saturday?
...The 5 second shot from ground level of dirt and hoofs was just enough to cause you to lose track of where your horses were running. nice job morons.
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Steve,
Regarding your last comment, I think a case can now be made for Caleb's Posse as three-year-old champion considering his win in the Dirt Mile (in which he beat the Preakness winner, Shackleford) and previous victory over Uncle Mo in the King's Bishop. He also has wins in the Amsterdam and Ohio Derby under his belt. This was a terrible group of three-year-olds, but I don't think anybody else has a better resume.
Havre de Grace should still be Horse of the Year despite yesterday's performance. Five wins of seven starts and two Grade 1s in New York ought to be enough for this year's crop.
This year's Breeders' Cup was a joke. Nothing was settled in what's designed to be the "world championship" of the sport.
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Probably worst breeders cup in recent memory.Goldikova should have been taken down especially considering the size of the super and tri pools.Political correctness has now entered the dying sport of horse racing.Did Graham Motion get BC fever his dogs didn't run a lick.Juddmonte thanks for showing up,at least Annouce got a call for being scratched that's more than I can say for the rest of those overhyped Euros.And speaking of over hyped Euros.Enough from everyone in the turf media trying to make a case for Euro invaders on the main track.Everyone one of them didn't handle the dirt.,automatic throw outs in the future.
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If i had a vote for HOY i would have to vote for Tizway. He was the biggest victor on Breeders Cup day.
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If zenyatta can win HoY after not beating males and losing to blame head to head ( who was far more accomplished than anyone this year), there is no reason Havre de Grace should not be HoY after dancing every dance and actually beating males. None of the alternatives seem worthy.
Animal Kingdom and Calebs Posse should be the only possible choices for 3yo champ
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to walt p why would donnie von hemel take caleb's posse to hollywood to run in a 1 1/4 mile turf race when he is clearly best at 7f-1mile,maybe 1 1/16 at belmont. That move wold be just as bad as uncle mo in the 1 1/4 classic who i said in a previous post had no shot. I wonder if repole forced pletcher to run in the classic instead of the mile,which caleb's posse would have beat him again
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Boy - some angry posters on here! I was going to point out that Game On Dude set the 'anti-Secretariat' fractions - every quarter slower than the preceding one, which is surely the salient point. The track wasn't so much fast, or good, it was tiring, and stamina was at a premium. This makes the Juvenile the most interesting race to analyze, because while Union Rags undoubtedly was compromised by being taken so wide throughout, Hansen has done well to hang on after setting sound early fractions. Who is the better horse now at 8.5f is certainly debateable!
Now on to my 'why-do-we-do-this?' point!
I am sure I will be told that the reason dividends are (mostly) announced to a $2 stake is that some bright spark a few generations ago thought that it would increase turnover to make a $2 minimum rather than a $1 minimum. But is that relevant now? It certainly does not make it easier to attract new customers to the game (who are clearly confused by it), makes no real sense if you can bet in $1 units anyway (heck, why not go to $10 units like some countries do?!) and seems past its sell-by date.
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It's a puzzle all right, but let's not forget about Blind Luck for HOY - until the Classic she was almost the only horse who could beat Havre de Grace and the other one was the winner of last year's Ladies Classic. Yes, she had one bad race this year but obviously something was not right with her at the time and it's not her fault that her trainer seems to think she is no longer worth his time. I will never forget that tough little mare and I hope someone buys her who will appreciate her.
I can't think who else but Havre de Grace has been consistently impressive all year. At this point Rapid Redux seems like as good a choice as any for HOY.
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To all who say this was the worst BC ever remember...it is all perception. I am sorry your favorites did not come in. Those who picked the right longshots thought it was a pretty damn good BC. I think Rapid Redux should be horse of the year. None of the top level horses deserve it and he only won what 18 (!) races this year if he sets the record he should win HOTY, especially after last years debacle which proved HOTY is a popularity contest. This was one of the better BCs from an adventurous bettor's point of view.
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Only one horse has three G1's HdG. [Not true -- see below -SC]
Barring her Regally Ready? At least he has six wins and a turf sprinter would be apropos in this day and age.
Off topic, I hit the Dirt Mile TRI ($2200)for two bucks, could I have avoided the IRS by playing four 50 cent tickets in my NYRA Reward account? Or do they lump them togethar since they are essentially one bet?
[Actually, Acclamation and Cape Blanco also won three Grade 1's. As for aggregating tickets, everyone does it differently, but I'm pretty sure that four consecutive $550-for$0.50 winners would be aggregated for reporting. At least there was no withholding issue. -SC]
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What a great two days of wagering opt.s -- if only Turalure wins I cash big time - pick 4s, d/d 's . ugh....... and if you watch the replay Leperoux thinks he got there - he tapping him on the shoulder after the wire just keep saying to myself remember the odd couple when oscar says to felix - thats why they call it gambling!!!
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i would vote for Caleb for 3yo of the year - isnt he the only 3yo multiple grade 1 winner?
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Some other notes - The Classic undoubtably threw a monkey wrech into the HOY voting, if Havre De Grace was the leader in the club house - I think shes still the leader by default, although you may now have to throw MMA in the mix as well as Cape Blanco - very intereting vote -
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finally - nice touch by espn to acknowledge Eibar Coa and his recovery
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Feel like a kid the day after Xmas.It's over and knowing that nothing matches this until next November.One of the best BC ever.Especially price wise which is my #1 criteria. I had some great winners and a very good weekend, but if Tellualare gets up I have the Pic 3 and late DD.It's always something in this game of would have,could have,should have.I make 2k and I'm still not happy because it's doubled if I hit that photo. Oh well,time to cherry pick stake races until Dubai World Cup day.
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Game on Dude's loss at Del Mar was predictable. Baffert already had his sights set on the Classic by that time and Del Mar has polytrack. Game on Dude had been racing since February and that is a long campaign looking ahead to November. The length of Game on Dude's campaign may have cost him a tiny bit in the Classic. The track was very slow also and Uncle Mo's premature move were other factors. Still, he got beat on the square despite a scintillating effort.
I would take Game on Dude in his 2011 form against anything in the country this year. Who on the speed could cope with him at 1 1/4? What closer can be counted on to catch him race in and race out?
Last year's Belmont was pure class. Drosselmeyer, Game on Dude and First Dude (who won the Hollywood Derby by a nose over Game on Dude) were all prominent in it.
We need more classic horses. Racing tends to hype horses that are essentially milers. A horse like Game on Dude slips under the radar. A group of us in So. Calif. predicted what would happen to the other speed in the classic but expected Game on Dude to win. I don't see this as East coast, West coast. My group was all over Blame last year. Blame was an exceptional horse. Game on Dude is just very good but a classic horse and better than what was on the track this year.
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Re: Goldi
Half the show pool was Goldi. Stewards wanted to make the crowd happy?
What a day:
Low point watching CB jump off Miner on the turn. It was his race today.
Saw the tax man when Court Vision got the nose on Tura. Watching that old warrior do it one more time at CD was a real high, but even better was the hug Julien Leparoux got ,in defeat, in the paddock after the race from Tura connection. For a game that can be so cold, this was as warm as it gets. Too bad those moments don't make the news, instead of the negative.
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I have no idea who the Horse of the Year should be.
May I nominate my better half as Bettor of the Year - at least in the last half of the year?
Thinking lightly, reading nothing, & acting casually, she managed to wing half of the Juvenile Turf exacta, & later, half of the Mile exacta.
Seriously, if she could exchange her winnings for Zenyatta winning last year's Classic, she would. I know. When I came upstairs prior to the running of the Classic, she was watching the Zenyatta-Blame replay on ESPN. Tears were streaming down her cheeks.
Thank you Mike & Chantal. My insanity-insurance (Steve's expression, I believe) "oh my God what if these two run 1-2 in the classic!" exacta bet bailed me out for a minor profit on the day.
Nice hit, Steve! Congrats on the P4. Resist the magnetic allure of the new casino (another reason never to go to AQ).
There was a different Jerry Bailey on TV yesterday - calm, funny, thoughtful, & nothing erupting at 100 decibels. It was very much appreciated. My guess: A new, more effective brand of over-the-counter sedatives.
As for the perennially pathetic & pandering Joe T.: He makes the weakest links on TVG look like Murrow & Cronkite.
Dutrow (former trainer of Court Vision) wasn’t the only trainer of his nefarious ilk to get clobbered during the proceedings. So if you’re fans of the saying “What comes around…” trust me, you’re right. Lightning struck twice. Big time.
See you all next year!
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Mean (not average!) payouts for the 15 Breeder's Cup 2011 races in the W-P-S pools:
Win - $16.80
Place - $6.80
Show - $6.40
I know most of the bloggers are more involved in P4 - P6 multi-race exotics, which can be life-changers. But if you want to cash some tickets (like me), you can't beat the value in the W-P-S pools for the Breeder's Cup. Can't wait until next year.
Now pour me another Woodford Reserve!
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Racing has got big problems. Millions can see it, but the industry is so blind. Life at Ten last year and Goldikova this year. How fricking obvious does it need to be!
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Those who say 'worst breeders' cup ever must know it is all perspective. If you hit the Super hi 5 this was the best Cup ever. I thought it was great sorry if all your favorites lost. How about Rapid Redux for HOTY? He certainly did enough to deserve the award especially since none of the high class horses did.
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Adam,
That was some tape job you did to uncover the mystery of Game on Dude's non-dq. in the S/A Derby. Did you work with James Cameron on the final edit of Avatar?
Your explanation justifying G.O.D.'s non-dq. was akin to the Warren Commission's analyses of the Zapruder film justifying the magic bullet theory.
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How about Shackleford for 3YO male champ? All he did was cash big checks in big races from March to November---a genuine throwback.
But didn't Caleb's Posse cash checks from January to November, win two G1's to Shack's 1 and beat him heads-up in the Dirt Mile? I think reasonable cases can be made for Animal Kingdom or Caleb, but not Shackleford -- he's an admirable throwback horse but was 2 for 10 this year. -SC]
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Ok, so the results were not what many people anticipated. At least the races WERE exciting. If all the favorites won there would have been complaints of a chalkfest. Of course there were bad rides; it happens EVERYDAY in horseracing. Jockeys think they are on the best horse by far and figure they cant lose. I think the last 2 days were a microcosm of what generally happens in horse racing everyday; its just on a national scale. HOTY? IMO its the next horse I cash on, and the one after that and after that.
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HOTY? Don't laugh. . . .Rapid Redux, especially when he reaches & passes 20 wins in a row. NOT in 3 years, like the Queen, but in ONE YEAR! Amazing!
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In 2011, no 2 yo or 3 yo has done enough to be considered HOY. That leaves us with the older horses and filles/mares.
The only possible female horse to consider is Havre De Grace, but finishing a well-beaten fourth in Classic probably sealed her fate. Game On Dude is the logical dirt horse choice - danced the big dances. My choice is Cape Blanco - three Grade 1 turf wins and I don't believe there is another horse in the country with three Grade 1s this year.
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It's ironic that Goldikova's legacy will be tarnished, not by what she did yesterday, but by the spineless stewards' inaction; As egregious as the non-DQ was their failure to even post the inquiry sign!
I learned long ago that the stewards are like the takeout: just another obstacle for the horseplayer to overcome.
And as for Joe Tessitore -- who's nephew do you think he is? I can't believe Randy Moss continues to work for ABC/ESPN.
Thanks Steve - both for all you do and for giving us a place to vent.
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Cape Blanco's three Grade I's look pretty formidable in the wake of that rather ambiguous Breeders' Cup...
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Steve I'm confused why there isn't a Pick 6 carryover today? Surely no one hit 6-6 on yesterdays crazy day?
Thanks,
Jesse
[There was a mandatory payout, as there always is on the BC card, even if 5/6 is the best anyone does. Each off 22 5/6 tickets paid $95k. -SC]
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What a poor year in racing for the most part, but we've been spoiled a bit after the Rachel Alexandra/Zenyatta years. With the exception of four filly categories (Older, 3 year year old, 2 year old & Turf, though the latter more by default), all the categories are up for grabs. Who cares who wins Female Sprinter, but it's a category that should be gotten rid of anyway as there were far more exciting Sprints when females were facing the boys. Male Sprinter seems to be between Amazombie, Caleb's Posse & Regally Ready. Male Turf is strictly between Cape Blanco & Acclamation. Older male has a good five contenders to fight it out in Acclamation, Drosselmeyer, Flat Out, Game On Dude and Tizway. 3 year old colt is between Animal Kingdom and suddenly Caleb's Posse with an outside shot to Stay Thirsty. 2 year old male is a toss up between Hansen and Union Rags. That leaves Horse of the Year and I am lost. Personally, I'd go for Acclamation as he accomplished grade 1's on different surfaces, but I'd have little problem with Harve de Grace who had a terrific year and was involved in the race of the year (the Delaware Handicap) and Tizway whose career was abbreviated a little too soon for my vote. Some will consider Cape Blanco, but not me as his 3 grade turf wins are trumped by the three or more grade 1's won by the others already mentioned. Flat Out, who may run in the Clark, will need to win it to be named HOY over the other four mentioned. Those who think My Miss Aurelia should be considered HOY are out to lunch unless she faces boys and wins the Cash Call or something and even then, it would be a questionable decision. Disappointing year for the most part and a very disappointing Breeders' Cup.
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In my opinion the proliferation of races in the BC over the last several years has diluted the event. The Juvenile Sprint and Turf races siphoned off runners that should have run in the Juvenile. Although the dirt mile probably was not effected by the new races, as I handicapped the race it felt like a field I would expect to see at Oaklawn in January. More isn't always better.
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I wonder what as yet unknown and unnamed "disease" Team Repole will discover to use as an excuse for Mo's trouncing. He never should have been entered.
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Game on Dude was and is the best handicap horse at the classic distance in the country and it is not really close. He was there in March in the Big Cap, in July in the Hollywood Gold Cup, and he destroyed the other speed in the Classic. Watch the reply and watch the other speed drop off him in mid-stretch as a tandem. Game on Dude is a throw back in style to great horses of the past. He just keeps running those live quarters, one after another. All the "cheap" speed that tries him goes by the wayside as his stamina takes over. He is not a great, great horse, but he is very good one and better than anything that ran on dirt in the distance races this year. It is a joy to watch his "action" and it is too bad he is a gelding. American breeding should produce more horses like Game on Dude.
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The older male divisional champ should be clear. Game on Dude, who already won 2 Grade I's and was a close second in a third Grade I, beat all the main contenders for older male horse in the Classic. He got passed by Drosslemeyer at the wire, but on a tiring track, Game on Dude ran the best race; like Zenyatta's second in last year's Breeder's Cup Classic. Another strong contender and not a pretender is Acclamation, who won 3 Grade 1's, on different surfaces. Game on Dude should be right up there with the HOTY contenders. The other HOTY contenders had their shot the past couple of days and none rose to the occasion.
Flat Out and Havre de Grade, like so many East-Coast raced horses, may have been aided in their Grade I victories by off-tracks. Had they ran on Friday, with the off track, instead of Saturday, they may have had a better chance of winning...
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Chalk one up for the little guys. I love following the blog. Don't have the bank roll for big ticket pick 6's. I played a little $32 one today: 8,10 w/ 5,8 w/ 1,2 w/ 5,10 w/ 1 w/ 3 = $95,070. Not too bad. The stars align once in a while.
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Horse of the year? Saratoga Matt! Won for me on the turf at Calder and helped salvage the day fro the Breeders Cup!
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It's been noted the total handle was down just over five percent on this Breeders' Cup even with one additional race as opposed to a year ago. That to me is not surprising, mainly because I suspect most, if not all of that drop can be directly attributed to the residual effects of last week's winter storm that continues to leave people in some instances without power more than a week later and left many others with too little energy to even think about the Breeders' Cup, especially having to deal with cleanup from a storm that downed more trees than any in memory. Even if they never lost power or only did briefly, many people also had to divert money that likely would have gone to BC betting to getting winter supplies because of the unexpected snowstorm, while still others may not have been able to get into work due to the residual effects of the storm for days and had to use the week to play catchup.
I suspect in the end, we will find the October snowstorm of 2011 left another victim in its wake: The Breeders' Cup. It would have been of course much worse had it been like 2005 and Belmont was hosting the BC on the last weekend in October.
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Steve,
First, congrats on the nice early P4 score. We all pull for you out here.
Second - Bombs Away With LBJ!
Third - I had to take a few hours to calm down over the results in the Mile. I like shooting at chalks and tried to beat Goldikova the last few years, while fully recognizing her immense talent. The non-dq today cost me a very nice hit, and that my TV is still operating and that I didn't have to be revived in an emergency room is a wonder. No sense belaboring it with a long string of nasty words, but it is simply unconscionable.
Fourth - Ditto George Quinn's reaction to the ride on Union Rags. Would be nice for someone mathematically inclined to calculate how many more lengths Union Rags ran than Hansen. Was that stretch bobble a lead change problem or just a drift?
Fifth - Horse of the Year? After what I've seen this year how about they don't and say they did.
Lastly, after the freakish NY weather last weekend today was as nice a day for a Breeders Cup at Belmont as could be wished for. Here's hoping that we get to see one in the not too distant future.
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Steve, (or others),
What do you think of the times of the winning horses? Times seemed 2-3 seconds slow all weekend w/ both the fractions and the final times. If the track conditions were close to what CD claimed and these are BC horses, shouldn't the times have been faster? One example, the Classic was won in 2:04 and 2, the same time as Super Saver in the slop in the 2010 Derby. Multiple times, a slow pace setter that looked loose on the lead ended up off the board. It just seems the track, turf and dirt, was playing odd.
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HOTY and best older male- RAPID REDUX
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And btw...I'm sure Joe Tessatore is a nice guy and everything but are you telling me that there isn't anyone else available that is in the game and knows how to host a BC telecast? He brings nothing other than bombastic hyperbole...sort of like a poor mans Howard Cossell. The difference being that Cossell sometimes new what he was talking about. Kurt Hoover could work with Moss and Bailey easily and actually utilize their expertise instead of stifling it. And don't anyone mention Kenny Peck, either.
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A few points and mostly rants
Today was low grade, I thought the Claiming Crown was in Decemeber.
Geez Louise, I was looking for bombers all day but I couldn't pull Court Vision or 'Fossil'Meyer.
These races were clunkers, the rail killed the chances of several horses and the jockeys were terrible. I mean absolutly terrible.
I find it truly ironic that Mike Smith CIRCLES the field in the '11 Classic as opposed to run up the all the exposed milers butts like he did in 2010.
If Game on Dude sees 'um they lose, imo.
The Breeders' Cup Classic was not created for horse to 'take a shot' IT's a Year-end championship!!
If Todd Pletcher is so great. How come he doesn't know the capabilities of the two best horses in his stable, the last two years? Hey Todd, Next year please don't muck up the classic. Please place your "top" horse in an overnight feature at Aqueduct!
ESPN, has to fire Jerry Bailey, Randy Moss, and Hank "The Human Hemorrhoge" Goldberg. Nobody wants to listen to three bald guys, OR watch your "expert" handicapper lose $872 (what a graphic).
How many days is he at Calder, really? The telecast needs to get younger and hipper.
I'm so F^&%$* pissed!
Let's all hope and prey for My Miss Aurelia. American racing needs her.
She is my pick for HOtY!
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Acclamation & Cape Blanco are the only horses to win 3 unrestricted Grade I races this year. One of them should be HoY, probably Acclamation because he won on 2 different surfaces, defeated bigger, better fields, and defeated Game On Dude, who came within a nose and 1 1/2 lengths of winning 4 Grade I races.
For those who have written that they would abstain from voting, how about Rapid Redux for HoY.......
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There have been years when they didn't give out the Pulitzer Prize for drama because the committee in charge simply sucked it up and admitted that no one deserved the honor.
Perhaps Eclipse Award voters should do the same this year when it comes to Horse of the Year.
The only thing I'm certain about when it comes to this year's Breeders Cup is that Churchill Downs really must replace its anemic bugler. I feared for his health each time he tried to get out the call to the post.
As for the TV coverage, at least Joe Tessitore didn't utter his familiar post-race phrase, "Well, we've just crowned another world champion at the Breeders Cup."
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Give the HOY to rapid redux, he is one of the 99%
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Had Union Rags 5 wide the whole trip and missed a nose to fill out all multi race wagers and tri and exacta. Also had Turralure. Watched in horror as Julien Leparoux swung 6 wide at the top of the lane then was bumped 2 more wide. Awful.
Been playing this game a long time and, not because I got beat up today, but I have a feeling we all no much less than we profess to. This game is almost impossible. Drosslemeyer clunks up and wins at half the price he should have been? The result turned our second greatest race of the year into a boat race. And to end the rant. If I was the owner of Union Rags. I would try and get a restraining order agains Javier Castellano to not be able to ever come near my horse after a 5 wide journey the entire mile. He should be arrested.
How was your day Steve?
George in Tampa
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Re: Goldikova...I think the stewards, or Churchill or the BC brass let her stay as a way of saying "Thanks for bringing her back". Not saying it was fair to the bettors but hey, everyone get over it. You were lucky to see her split horses for the last time. What a mare!
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Kenny Mac:
For My Miss Aurelia to be seriously considered for Horse of the Year, she would need to beat the boys in the Hollywood Futurity in December at Hollywood Park. In a year like this, I might just do that if it were me, taking a shot at Horse of the Year in the process.
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Some more thoughts after today:
Caleb's Posse did run well to take the Dirt Mile, but I would think he may now have to go west and win the 1 1/4 Mile Hollywood Derby on turf to be seriously considered for the three year old title. In a year like this, a win in the Hollywood Derby probably would give him the title over everyone else.
Game on Dude probably won champion older male as he held on very well.
Havre de Grace probably had her older female title solidified with Royal Delta's BC Ladies Classic win (that likely won RD the three year old filly title) on Friday.
That said, I again state the case for Cape Blanco as Horse of the Year. The likely male turf champion won all three of his US starts, which were Grade 1s at 1 1/4 Miles (Arlington Million), 1 3/8 Miles (Man o'War) and 1 1/2 Miles (Joe Hirsch Turf Classic, where he was injured or he likely would have been in the BC Turf, with a win there probably clinching HOY the way things worked out). In a year like this, he probably is the deserving Horse of the Year.
This also shows why now that NYRA has the casino money coming in, they should seriously look at moving the Jockey Club Gold Cup to from before to after the Breeders' Cup and jack the purse of that to at least $2 million and possibly $3 million or more, running it on the main track at Aqueduct four weeks after the BC Classic at 1 3/8 Miles (having the full length of the stretch before the first turn). If we had still to come this year, we might have seen a lot of the BC Classic field come back for the JCGC to decide Horse of the Year.
This is also where Hollywood Park should have returned the Hollywood Turf Cup (Grade 1) to early December where it used to be run (as opposed to next Saturday), where in a year like this that race, at 1 1/2 Miles on turf could have decided Horse of the Year.
What this BC Classic showed more than anything else is we need a "safety net" like the Jockey Club Gold Cup or Hollywood Turf Cup (worth seven figures) to be run after the Breeders' Cup. While Churchill does have the Clark (Grade 1), which is a race with a lot of history, that race would need to be lengthened to at least 1 1/4 Miles and had its purse quadrupled to at least $2 Million to be that "safety net."
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HOTY? Royal Delta
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Mr Crist I have met you @ Saratoga & share the same passion for racing to flourish as you do, but after the non-dq in BC R10 of Goldikova,that will never happen. Racing officials will have no-one to blame but themselves. It was clear to the most novice of horseplayers or laypersons w/o a vested interest what happened in BC R10 that the non-dq made them aware that the game was not governed fairly. To me as an aware horsefan the non dq was a PC move to reward the connections for entering the well traveled & hard raced mare by the KY Horse Commission to bolster the event...
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Jim C,
Lets face it. Game on Dude's nondisqualification in the Santa Anita Handicap was just as mystifying as Goldikova's nondisqualification today! Also you can't throw out Game on Dude's trouncing in the Pacific Classic by Acclamation yet highlight his second placing in the Hollywood Gold Cup which is run on what? Cushion?
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Steve,
I see nothing wrong in adding My Miss Aurelia to the Horse of the Year debate. After all she is undefeated and has a convincing Breeders Cup win! No?
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Kenny Mac says Acclamation for Horse of the Year, since he soundly defeated Game on Dude in the Pacific Classic. But in fairness to Game on Dude, who is a tough, throwback dirt horse, that race was over the quirky Del Mar polytrack.
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I say Acclamation has been the most dominant horse of his division all year and should be horse of the year! He ran Game on Dude off his heels in the Pacific classic.
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My early vote for Horse of the Year goes to None of the Above. After today and looking back at Triple Crown series, I come up empty. Cape Blanco seems to be best fallback choice. An exciting two days of racing ends with bad showings by the ostensible stars in the big show leaving a bit of a bad taste and thoughts of the looming Inner Dirt Track meet at Big A. Ugh.
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Was there a mandatory pick 6 payout? I can't find anything on a carryover.
[It was a mandatory payout as the BC Pick-6 always is. -SC]
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the late pk 4 for $2 pd. twice as much as 5 out of 6 in the pk 6. wow.
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Animal Kingdon 3yo of Year
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Does 5 of 6 win the Pick 6?? so does 4 of 6 pay a conso??? wondering
[Yes, 5/6 paid $95k. No conso for 4/6. -SC]
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Who is Horse of the Year? Sorry, Steve, but I do not see anyway in which this is not going to involve another East Coast vs. West Coast battle.
Game on Dude is the only rational, fair-minded choice. First in the Santa Anita Handicap and Goodwood. Strong seconds in the Hollywood Gold Cup and Breeders' Cup Classic. Not the best resume for a Horse of the Year, but a better resume than any horse this year. A better resume than Havre de Grace. A better resume than Tizway. And a better resume than Flat Out. And he ran well in front of Uncle Mo (zero grade 1 wins) and Stay Thirsty today.
Game on Dude got zero respect from the East Coast turf media coming into this race. They claimed he did not beat anybody that was good, but that is not accurate, as Twirling Candy was, in terms of raw ability, one of the best male handicap horses in the country this year. In the Classic, Game on Dude did all the work up front, and shrugged off the late move by Uncle Mo. He also soundly beat the other two East Coast favorites, Havre de Grace, and Flat Out. Sutherland should have moved him out a little bit, so he could have seen Drosselmeyer (as Garret Gomez did in last year's Classic with Blame).
Tell me if I am wrong. Which horse had a better resume this year than Game on Dude, at least among the two-turn routers? Some turf media may gravitate toward Tizway, but that would be silly. Met Mile and Travers wins are nice, but they are matched by Game on Dude's Big Cap and Goodwood, and strong, not to mention game seconds in the Hollywood Gold Cup and Classic. Havre de Grace is not a logical choice, since she was soundly beaten by Game on Dude in the Classic when it counted.
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Caleb's Posse for 3yo of the year, anyone? He did win two G1's.
[Not impossible, though Amsterdam/King's Bishop/Dirt Mile would be quite an unusual resume for a 3-year-old champ. -SC]
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If I had a Horse of the Year vote, I'd vote for Frankel.
If it is against the rules to vote for a horse who didn't run in America, I'd abstain.
What an abomination.
[One more time: A horse must make one start in North America to be eligible for the Horse of the Year Eclipse Award. -SC]
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Bad beats to mull in the winter:
Turlallure cost me pick 4 and I had flat out for 5 out of 6 in pick 6. Union Rags cost me super and tri's. Three gut punches in a row - see you in April!
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Steve - Any chance My Miss Aurelia wins HOY?
[Everyone and anyone will probably be considered. Rapid Redux? -SC]
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How about a whip tally for the Classic?
Sutherland rode the final eighth as if he she didn't think anything was coming up on the far outside.
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Time only matters when you're in jail.
Congrats to the entire Drosselmeyer Team.
(No. I didn't have him.)
[I always liked Woody Stephens's retort to that hoary old chestnut about time: "Then try going downtown at 10 o'clock for the 9 o'clock train." -SC]
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Glad Ruler on Ice came through for a score, but would have actually made money today had Goldikova been DQ'd as she should have been. (Had a WPS on Gio Ponti.) Oh well.
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What an awful Classic.
This is what the Kentucky Breeders have done. 2:04.27
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It looks like after the Classic and with everything else that happened, Cape Blanco, with three Grade 1 wins on turf (all at 1 1/4 Miles or longer) and unable to run in the BC Turf due to injury is now in a position to sneak in and steal Horse of the Year from everybody!
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4 Ruler On Ice and 7 Rattlesnake Bridge are the only 6 out of 6 payoffs. Go figure.
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Or is it most surprising that someone is alive to Ruler on Ice and Rattlesnake Bridge?
[Doesn't seem possible. WOuldn't be shocked if that's $2m for FIVE of six. -SC]
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Just the Big One to go, but...
131.60 on Court Vision was pretty cool (DIDN'T HAVE IT).
I remember several years ago that I bet up Gio Ponti in the VA Derby and told a friend - "Court Vision may be better, but I'm glad Gio won". To see them both out there today, running... that is what it should be about.
Oh, and who wins the BIG ONE???
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gone through two days of cigars and junk food as we come to the big race.
That 9 was a killer. And the last two days were tough, but I play with the budget that I would use at any other time.
If anything, glad to see jockey Albarado get a nice comeback like this after his family problems and physical injuries took him off his mount and derby winnerAnimal Kingdom.
Pure persistence.
Keying Uncle Mo. The owner does not have an uncle that he named the horse after. Rather it means getting your good vibes, luck, things happening well, as in, you didn't win all day and now you're getting your Uncle Mo going with the 9 in the 10th with the tri and super 10 times.
Thanks for the ride.
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A victory for clean racing as Court Vision wins after getting away from the IEAH/Dutrow team to the more respectable Romans/Hughes combo.
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goldikova not getting dq'ed is why this game will never be what it should. an absolute joke, and this coming from someone who passed on this race, what a joke, what a joke....
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What will John Veitch's reasoning be with keeping Goldikova's number up?
Another absurdity.
Nice to see the Kentucky stewards are watching on two HDTVs and 3 STANDARD ones in their room.
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Argh.
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Great ride by Castellano. Why was he hitting the horse right handed down the stretch. Another overrated NY Jockey.
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Was there a Consolation on Pick 5? 4/5?
[No conso payout on the pick-5 unless nobody picks 5. There were consos when the bet was introduced at Gulfstream and in SoCal earlier this year (subsequently removed in SoCal), but there was never a conso provision for the two at the BC unless nobody picked 5/5. -SC]
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Steve,
Excellent comment on calebs posse being a one turn horse.he always seems to go off as an overlay.
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Steve, awesome call on Caleb's Posse and I have to give all credit to you for his inclusion on my tickets. The dichotomy between his one-turn and two-turn form is absolutely fascinating.
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Congrats Steve, nice pick 4 score! Good luck with the remainder of the pick 6.
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looks like all you have to do is play the 8 horses all day.
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Congrats on that Pick- 4 score, Steve.
Caleb's Posse does love a 1 turn race.
DVH is a true cowboy, much to say about that.
Flew home.
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Steve,
NYRA Rewards has allowed $1 exacta boxes on the BC races today. Glad they changed this from yesterdays minimum of $2. Good luck to you and all the DRF readers for the rest of today.
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Feel like a poker player in the pick 4 rooting for you....."JUST ONE MORE....JUST ONE MORE!" $$$
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Turf Print.
Both the 8 and 14 have terrific records at this distance and their PP's at CD indicate they both like the course.
For me it's hard to separate them. I'll Use 10 Havelock and 13Caracatodo in my wagers.
GL to all!!!!
Selex..
8 with 10.13, 14
14 With 8.10.13
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Hey where are the prof tv 'announcers' . How many last year winners and good horses now didn't lift a foot this year. Hey was Big Drama ok? Pah-lease!
Going into 6th race with my last of 4 longshots for card. All 3 other - still posing for a portrait finish.
Hoofit. 5 grass 6th race.
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Despite Jackson Bend's 2 wins in two 6f starts, those are not vs these.
JB's PP's give the idea that he needs mor distance. However ZITO is a great trainer for pointing horses to a certain race. I have put JB in my exotics.
Selex....7 with 1,2,5....1 with 2,5,7
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The Breeders Cup is designed to showcase the US breeding industry. If we aren't breeding stayers, as well as sprinters, milers, and hopefully classic distance winners, we are opting out of a major market for thoroughbreds, given the popularity of stayers in the other racing countries. That said, maybe this race should be on the turf.
[I thought the BC was supposed to showcase US racing, determine its champions, and attract some European stars for the grass races. -- if it were designed to showcase the breeding industry, I don't think we'd run 6 races on the grass. And if we ran the Marathon on the turf, there would be both a 1/12-mile and a 1 3/4-mile grass race. -SC]
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I haven't slept in three days. Finished handicapping two days ago with the exception of last minute changes and I've got goose bumps right now from the action so far. My first race isn't until Race 8 and I haven't felt this rush since I played High School Football. Drinking Coronas and taking shots of tequilla. Good Luck to Everybody and worse comes to worse enjoy the best day in racing PERIOD.
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Am I the only one that thought about an all (IRE) - 4-5-12 - tri box in that 4th?
Chose not to, but that 5-11-4-12 finish has me chanting, "Get a price"!!!
Good luck all around.
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Afleet Again - Courage. Strength. Heart..... No, wait a minute! That was his sire!
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SEE 5TH RACE - Giant Ryan 6-0 last on diff surfaces tracks. See his calder race where he ran faster that day than yesterday's filly sprint winner.
While looking in the 5th see horse that beat Akinite Hoofit. He's in next race and will be looonng.
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Hi Steve,
Thought I have to share a story about yesterday. My 8 year old assistant just informed me I punched #8 in Race 9 as one of my C's in late pick four, problem was in my selections I did not have #8 but #9 was selected, which I played in pick 6. I have gone over my notes and even though I know the results I would never have used P.S. in any win capacity. Thus I have been blessed by some sort of higher power to collect a four figure pay off . I do check my tickets very closely and this is the first time something like this has happened in decades of playing this game.
Why I brought this up was I was devasted when I watched P.S. win the ninth yesterday, had the second and third place finishers and even though I collected on some conso's thought a reasonable payoff to R.D. would of been in 25-30K range if either #5 or #12 won race 9.
I know I should just accept this and be grateful, which I am. So to all players check and double check your tickets.
Hope you and all the bloggers catch plenty of winners today!
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T.V. TODAY: (All times Eastern)
A.B.C. from 2:00pm-3:30pm
ESPN from 3:30-7:15pm
And if you're interested, TVG has a wrap-up show from 7:30-8:30pm
Have fun and good luck!
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I actually hit the tri on the marathon! W00T! I can't believe it! I hope A.U. Miner is going to be O.K.
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ESPN/ABC did a goon in reporting the late scratches and the conditions of Dynaslew yesterday after she was taken by horse ambulance.
On the other hand, TVG, which does the sport a disservice on so many fronts other than it being a channel devoted to racing itself, hardly mentioned anything about the two horses which were pulled up during the marathon.
The sooner NBC Sports Channel is awarded the rights to be the national broadcast outlet for horse racing the better it will be.
It's time to put an end to the countless camera cuts during the running of the races, nd the overall insipid execution of their efforts.
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Steve,
Good Luck today and the same to everyone else!! Question... Do you find yourself second guessing on not only your picks in each race but, also the way you bet? I find myself going back and forth much more than I do on a regular racing day and it's very frustrating... I also have a hard time deciding weather to play a pick 3 or a pick four. Since I can't afford to play both when they are both offered, I beat myself up deciding weather to play it a little safer (pick 3) or go for the bigger payoff (pick 4). Then if I lose early, I try to determine if I should play the next race vertically and try to get some $$ back quickly or stick with the horizontal plays. Pretty annoying that I do this to myself. Any advice on how to stay consistant? I see that you give us your pick 4's and pick 6's, but how often do you play a single race ad when do you do it? (i.e. if you really like something or if you are trying to get money back quicker)
Anyone have Afleet Again? I know I didn't... And what happened to A.U. Miner? I hope everything is okay. At least if something was going to go wrong today, it happened in this race on TVG where the majority of the viewers haven't tuned in yet. The last thing we need is another breakdown on our biggest day.
Thanks and let's cash some tickets today!
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I hope I'm the first but even if not this carries the strongest wishes for a personal best BC final day! I'll try to watch with you and follow your Picks =] Thank You for your hard work...sit back and enjoy.
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First time in 20+ years I,m not at the track at a Breeders Cup party. Staying in PJ,s all day with snack tray. Must be getting old (sucks)- well great racing to all--Ponyman
#5-Classic
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Does anyone know the times and channels for ABC/ESPN/ESPN coverage today?
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Hey Steve, Any chance of adding Holiday for Kitten(30-1) in the 6th race in exotics??? Seems like her form should be well considering Musical Romance won the F&M Sprint and Switch came charging down the lane to finish 2nd.
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