07/20/2011 12:55PM

Blind Luck, Top Winning Beyers, Creative Cause

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It's taken far too long, but BLIND LUCK is finally emerging from Zenyatta's giant shadow. 

Last year's champion 3-year-old filly won another thriller against her eternal rival, the classy HAVRE DE GRACE, in the 10-furlong Delaware Handicap (Grade 2) last Saturday at Delaware Park. 

Blind Luck boasts a gaudy list of accomplishments.  She's never been off the board in 21 races, winning 12 of those starts.  Of those 12 victories, seven of them have come by a margin of a half-length or less.  She's won at distances ranging from 4 1/2 furlongs to 1 1/4 miles.  She's won at Calder, Del Mar, Santa Anita, Hollywood, Oaklawn, Churchill Downs, Delaware and Saratoga.  She's won on dirt, in the slop, on polytrack, on cushion track and Pro-Ride. 
Like Zenyatta, she employs an exciting come-from-behind style that thrills her fans and gives her backers some anxious moments.  Besides her obvious talent, Blind Luck's class and courage are what separates her from the rest.  She, seemingly, refuses to yield when in a dogfight. 
In the Delaware 'Cap, Havre de Grace got the jump on Blind Luck turning for home.  Blind Luck attacked furiously in upper stretch, but Havre de Grace gamely fended her off.  For a fleeting moment, it appeared as if Havre de Grace would ward off her foe, but Blind Luck countered again and again, finally getting the best of Havre de Grace at the shadow of the wire.  It was a tremendous race by two excellent fillies.  Hopefully, they will face off again in the Personal Ensign at Saratoga and the Breeders' Cup Ladies Classic at Churchill Downs. 
There is always talk that racing needs new stars.  We have two of them in Blind Luck, who has never ducked a challenge in her career, and Havre de Grace.

*CREATIVE CAUSE, a gray son of Giant's Causeway, won his career debut going five furlongs over the Hollywood cushion track on July 16.  Trained by Mike Harrington, Creative Cause was involved early before drawing away sharply to score by 4 3/4 lengths with a 98 Beyer Speed Figure.  A $135,000 yearling buy, 2-year-old Creative Cause is out of the classy mare Dream of Summer, a millionaire that won the Grade 1 Apple Blossom Handicap. 

*Over at Arlington Park, TWELVE HUNDRED, an Illinois-bred gelding trained by James DiVito, showed good speed in winning his juvenile debut with a 92 Beyer.  A $1,200 yearling, Twelve Hundred is by Cape Town out of the Devil's Bag mare Sippin' Devil, the runner-up in the Shakopee Stakes going 1 mile and 70 yards at Canterbury Park.

*That sonic boom you may have heard over the weekend came from A. U. MINER, who made it two in a row in the Greenwood Cup at Parx Racing.  Making his second start of the year, A. U. Miner trailed a solid pace for the majority of the 12-furlong Greenwood Cup before uncorking an eye-catching move to the front on the far turn.  A. U. Miner was troubled in that traffic-filled Breeders' Cup Marathon last year and looks like a prime contender for that race once again in 2011. 

*Remember the saga of LISA'S BOOBY TRAP?  If you don't, take a refresher course at the below link:

http://www.drf.com/news/tim-snyder-unchanged-sudden-fame

After losing her last two starts in 2010, Lisa's Booby Trap has won two of three this season, including a 95 Beyer performance at Finger Lakes on July 11.  Perhaps she'll find a spot at Saratoga again this year.

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Here are the top 25 winning Beyer Speed Figures from last week's stakes races (7/11 - 7/17):

1.  BLIND LUCK - 106 - Delaware Handicap (G2) - 1 1/4 Miles - Delaware
2.  AIR SUPPORT - 99 - Virginia Derby (G2) - 1 1/4 Miles (Turf) - Colonial
2.  NATIVE RULER - 99 - Don Bernhardt Stakes - 6 1/2 Furlongs - Ellis
4.  CREATIVE CAUSE - 98 - Md Sp Wt 56k - 5 Furlongs (Cushion Track) - Hollywood
5.  A. U. MINER - 97 - Greenwood Cup - 1 1/2 Miles - Parx
6.  MR. RYDER - 96 - Sussex Stakes - 1 1/16 Miles (Turf) - Delaware
7.  BROKEN DREAMS - 95 - Alw 77070NC - 6 Furlongs (Turf) - Hollywood
7.  IRISH GYPSY - 95 - A Gleam Handicap (G2) - 7 Furlongs (Cushion Track) - Hollywood
7.  LISA'S BOOBY TRAP - 95 - Alw 25000NC - 6 Furlongs - Finger Lakes
10. IMPONENTE PURSE (BRZ) - 94 - Sunset Handicap (G3) - 1 1/2 Miles (Turf) - Hollywood
10. SEA GAZE - 94 - Clm 25000(25-20) - 1 Mile - Monmouth
12. CENTRALINTELLIGENCE - 93 - Md Sp Wt 56k - 6 1/2 Furlongs (Cushion Track) - Hollywood
12. PENDER HARBOUR - 93 Prince Of Wales Stakes - 1 3/16 Miles - Fort Erie
12. RIGHT ONE (FR) - 93 Jaipur Stakes (G3) - 7 Furlongs (Turf) - Belmont
15. D'ORO DIABLO - 92 - OC 62k/N2X - 6 Furlongs (Turf) - Woodbine
15. HAVELOCK - 92 - Arlington Sprint Handicap - 5 1/2 Furlongs (Turf) - Arlington
15. SOCIALSAUL - 92 - New York Derby - 1 1/16 Miles - Finger Lakes
15. TWELVE HUNDRED - 92 - Md Sp Wt 29k - 5 1/2 Furlongs (Polytrack) - Arlington
19. ABDEL'S GHOST - 91 - OC 16k/N1X -N - 6 Furlongs - Calder
19. ACTION ANDY - 91 - Kittens Joy Stakes - 1 1/16 Miles (Turf) - Colonial
19. CAMBINA - 91 (DH) - American Oaks (G1) - 1 1/4 Miles (Turf) - Hollywood
19. COAX LIBERTY - 91 - Sometime Thing Stakes - 7 Furlongs - Belmont
19. LEGAL SEPARATION - 91 - Alw 71278N1X - 6 1/2 Furlongs (Cushion Track) - Hollywood
19. NEREID - 91 (DH) - American Oaks (G1) - 1 1/4 Miles (Turf) - Hollywood
19. PRIMARY WITNESS - 91 - OC 40k/N2X - 1 Mile - Monmouth
19. STORMY LORD - 91 - Ontario Jockey Club - 7 Furlongs (Turf) - Woodbine
19. SUPER ROBUSTO - 91 - OC 65k/N3X - 6 Furlongs - Monmouth

Blind Luck's past performances are available at the bottom of this blog post.

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Okay, boys and girls, riddle me this - Deluxe Bus in the first race tonight at Hollywood - What in the hell is this horse doing in a $25K claimer??? He is by Bluegrass Cat out of the Quiet American mare Byzantine, he has a progression of 31-64-78-92-90, he is going for his fourth straight win (last out in a $40K claimer) and they are dropping him in class and he still has a tag around his neck? All I can figure is he has a bowed tendon and they will keep running him until it gives. He has run every month since coming back from a layoff, but they have laid off the works (only one work since his last, but four works before the race on May 19th). He runs a 92 in his first after his maiden score, nobody claims him. Then he runs a 90 in a $40K claimer and nobody claims him...
How exactly can you even bet this race with one like this in the field? The next closest to him speed figure wise from their last race is Cat Forest with a 73 - a 73 earned when Deluxe Bus blew his doors off in the June 19th race. He cost $11K (1/2 the stud fee and another reason to think he has a physical issue) and he has already earned $55K. These kind just make me crazy-er.
Anyone have any clue as to why you would do this? Dan? Bueller? Anyone?
Steve T

Someone took the bait, Uncle Steve.  After Deluxe Bus scored at 1-2 odds, he was claimed for $25,000 by Gary Sherlock.  While it's possible that Deluxe Bus has had his share of physical problems, it's so difficult to dismiss anything that Mike Mitchell does with his claiming horses.  The guy just wins races.  After claiming Deluxe Bus for $30,000 in April, Mitchell probably figured that he didn't have a star so he was just going to try and win out with him before losing him via claim.  Deluxe Bus got an 83 Beyer for his score.

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Dan,
Mike Welsch is reporting that Big Drama is about to breeze, and David Fawkes is now looking for a race to start the season. Reflecting on last season's extraordinary performances of this Champion and Breeders' Cup winner, did Big Drama wind up with the biggest BSF of last year? And didnt he put up twin 120s or something similarly awesome? PPs would be most appreciated, please!
(More so than Einstein, I suspect it will be Big Drama who will ultimately be responsible for passing down Buckpasser's bloodlines to a future generation.)
David H.

Big Drama's past performances are available at the bottom of this blog post.  He earned his 120 Beyer earlier this year and that's the highest speed figure in 2011. 

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Dan,
Keep up the great work at DRF - your handicapping expertise in maiden races is top notch! Have you heard anything concerning the outcome of the recent surgery that Dialed In was having done to remove the bone chip in his right knee?
Jim

Jim, thanks for the kind words.  Dialed In looks to be out for the remainder of the 2011 season, but Nick Zito hopes to have him back for the handicap races next year.

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Dan you use to have a disabled list that told why the horse was on the dl, do you still post this somewhere or how can I get his info?
Tony P

One of my many regrets this year is that I've been unable to keep the Disabled List updated.  Steve T. posted a link that may prove helpful, but I'm afraid it will have to be considered an "unofficial" disabled list until I can get it updated.  If you're searching for a specific horse, let me know and I'll do my best to find some information.

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Dan/Anyone:
Although it is still too early to tell I would say that right now Blind Luck has to be near the top of the list regarding Horse of the Year. If she beats the boys once, which looks quite possible, she could do it.
If she wins HOY it would be three straight years with a female HOY. Has this ever happened before?
CM

It's never happened before.  Actually, the Rachel Alexandra/Zenyatta double was the first time that female horses have won consecutive Horse of the Year awards since Twilight Tear and Busher pulled off the track in 1944-1945. 

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Dan, how many Breeders Cup Dirt Miles have been won by horses cutting back in distance?
Captain Bodgit

All four winners were turning back from nine-furlong races.

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Congrats to Whackymacky for finishing first in last week's HandiGambling exercise.  He selects Friday's feature race at Saratoga, the Schuylerville Stakes, for the upcoming HG race. 

PAST PERFORMANCES ARE AVAILABLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS BLOG POST.

Remember that you have a mythical $100 with which to wager on the race, and the entrant with the highest money total will receive a "Monthly Enhanced 60-Card Past Performance Plan."

Anyone going over the $100 limit will be disqualified.

Please post your plays and analysis to the blog.

Please separate the play from the analysis and label the play "HG" with the program numbers (instead of the horse's name) for easier scoring.

In the event of a tie, the earliest post gets first preference. One entry per person please.

I reserve the right to approve or deny any entries.

I know that there is a time issue for some of you, but let's remember why we began the HandiGambling races in the first place. The goal was to share ideas on why we like these horses, and why we're betting them the way we are. I'm not asking for a novel, but if you could spare a sentence or two outlining your handicapping angles, and thought processes about wagering, it would be appreciated.

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blackseabass More than 1 year ago
SR Vegas, I hope C is out there lurking and can get a chuckle or two from it. I had some fun writing it. C , I too consider you a good read. Whatever the subject matter might be. VQ ,AKA, The Bostonnatti Qid , I was roflmao too !! Coming out of his hole to try and climb up mine has never produced good "results" for him. LOL. I'm not sure why he continues to try. I guess, in "theory", he thinks he could best me someday ? LOL. If I was bound ,gagged & passed out drunk ! Maybe ? Otherwise, fuhgedabowdit . LOL. He just ain't ready for me yet Bostonnatti ! He trys to hard . LOL. Okiesharp , I should let the Goat Herder answer for himself, buttZ... speaking fairly fluent CurtVienese I can't resist. Its the only foriegn language I'm conversant in .LOL. Thats exactly what he was saying.
Turnbackthealarm More than 1 year ago
Annie, I am so sorry. I know how much you loved your dog. These furry guys have a way of capturing our hearts and when they leave us, much too soon, it is so hard. Take as much time as you need. The A's, B's and C's will still be here for several weeks.
Alan More than 1 year ago
Mi Hermana, my selection for SAR1, was just a late scratch! :-( My pick in SAR1 is now #5 Malibu Cougar, who returns off almost a year layoff for Asmussen. Needless to say, it is a much weaker selection...
Calvin L. Carter More than 1 year ago
Kieth L., Welcome back. You've been missed.
Alfredo More than 1 year ago
Dan & 10 cent, I know it isn't 100% totally official but I would like to make a conditional selection for the next HG race. How about Wed July 27 the 7th Del Mar - Wickerr Stakes? If this is a problem I can find something for later in thw week.
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Alfredo I know we have to wait for the official HG tally...Butts, The Wickerr Stakes, an excellent choice! Full field of 10, plus 3 AE's and a Turf race that is guaranteed NOT to come off the turf due to bad weather :) And who doesn't love Del Mar..
KYL Syndicate More than 1 year ago
Annie, My condolences KYL Syndicate
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Annie I'm so sorry for your loss. Take all the time you need, we'll be here. RIP Rusty.
Alan More than 1 year ago
Annie, Sorry to hear about my dog. He was lucky to have you as an owner. I've returned to handicapping for the Spa meeting and did well this weekend (despite not hitting my favs...the late P4s.) Here is my early double today: SAR1 #1 Mi Hermana (ML:12/1): Whereas Tagg is not known for training FTSs, at the Spa he is 27-8-2-4 (30%, $2ROI=$2.82) over past 5 years; Castellano good start at the Spa; nice BEL 5f works. SAR2 #8 Lady Gracenote ML:8/1): First-time claim; I liked her last effort against allowance fillies with two next-out winners already. Will also include #1 Rogues Jewel in the early double and my P4s. Good luck today!
Curt V. More than 1 year ago
Annie, I feel for you. Even though he was almost 17 yrs.{a long time in Dog years}, it's never easy. I hope you gave him all the love you could. They are wonderful creatures, as are all animals. It seems he didn't suffer, & that sounds good. My best regards..
okiesharp More than 1 year ago
I am looking for a map of a race track that shows the placement of the various furlong poles. i have the points of call and am trying to visualise where they are. Any suggestions?
Dick W More than 1 year ago
Annie My sincere condolences for your loss. Dick W
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
VQ "i know enough about u 2 realize it would have been a lot of fun 2 hang out/party with u back in your day." Trust me that Uncle Steve is 'a lot of fun 2 hangout/party with' in these current days !! LOL! Not only in person, but check out Laura's CHAT room when he is there. hahaha!
Calvin L. Carter More than 1 year ago
Glorious Goodwood, one of the highlights of the Summer racing season in Great Britain, will begin a five-day festival for horseracing fans Tuesday and racing at the meet is predicted to be on “perfect ground” at the Goodwood Racecourse. http://classicchampionthoroughbreds.blogspot.com/2011/07/molecomb-stakes-racing-roundup.html Annie, Sorry to hear about Rusty.
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Mike A I agree with VQ in asking that you: "just post some of your thoughts on trainers..how the turf courses r playing, who might b ready 2 run a big race next time out, stuff like that." Although being able to see things "real" time is optimal, having a chance to 'copy & paste' and use as a note or reference later, is just as valuable. Alan Nice to see you back in time for the SPAAAA Season. Hope Chalky enjoys it , too! BSB To C or not to C ...I'll say that C is not Mr Crist, although I did enjoy your version of a 'Conspiracy Theory' :) C I look forward to when you post about something that grabs your interest. You are always a good read. Keith L Though we have kept in touch, Welcome back to Formblog. You will LOVE your new computer! and Yes! .. you better not forget my DOMINUS, lol!
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
" i don't give out theories, i give out results" roflmao classic mikeA qoute ha Mike staying in the underground bunker is not good 4 your health from time 2 time u need 2 come up 4 air u don't have 2 give out picks just post some of your thoughts on trainers..how the turf courses r playing, who might b ready 2 run a big race next time out, stuff like that. people who r not on your "short list " might enjoy reading your thoughts on turf racing, particulary those new 2 the blog or all the lurkers who don't post but enjoy reading your comments. well it's 6 o'clock time 2 eat peace VQ
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
VQ, its not that I dislike the Dog Racer. I just disagree with him a lot. Lately I've been agreeing with him a lot. Thats a little spooky. If I really disliked him I would never give him a cool nickname like "The Dogman". Sure I can't say I prefer him to LSD or Eddie Haskell. Thats why they get better nicknames than him, buttZ... I don't actually despise him with the core of my being. Me and CurtV have some fun with him mainly because you're not allowed to disagree with him on his own blog. He invites comment to his assertions but you are only allowed to agree in glowing terms or its the roundfile. LOL. 97 % agree with whatever the Dog Racer wrote. 2% Agree to agree with someone elses agreement that the Dogman has it right. LOL. IMO, 1% are planted by the mysterious figure known as "C" on Formblog. Who's real identity might be "SC" AKA the Dogman . He plants mildly critical opinions that agree on principle but have a bone to pick on semantics. LOL. Since you know I like little C-ba and I think he and the Dogman are one and the same I can't not like the Dogman. Annie says C isn't the Dogman and C said Harvard wouldn't admit him.LOL. C'mon , you hang in Harvard yard VQ. Think about it. Harvard wouldn't accept C ? LOL. C always excuses himself and disappears right before Saratoga. Thats because he doesn't have the time to blog on LSDs blog when he's hangin' at the Spa blogging a Saratoga Diary on his own blog and scarfin' down chicken sandwiches all day. LOL. Also if you notice the rest of the year C only posts on days that the Dog Racers blog is dormant. Another thing is C always denies that he's the Dogman when I come out and ask him about it. Of course he does, thats what they taught him in the C-IA. Plausible deniability ! The Dog Racer gets bored sometimes with all the agreement he foments on his own blog as SC . When he does he comes to Formblog as C for a good dose of disagreement or two. LOL.
p ensign More than 1 year ago
Annie very sorry to hear of your loss
Steve T More than 1 year ago
When you are looking to fill your verticals, look at these trainers who have well above average ITM percentages at Del Mar (2010-2011) some are the big shots, but many are not and their horses routinely go off at big odds: Main Track Sprints CHO, Myung – 83% CONLON, Melody – 75% AGUIRRE, Paul – 75% KASPAROFF, James – 67% MITCHELL, Mike – 64% BAFFERT, Bob – 63% DOMINGUEZ, Caesar – 63% JONES, Martin – 60% PUYPE, Mike – 60% WALSH, Kathy – 60% O’NEILL, Doug – 58% CANANI, Julio – 58% MACHOWSKY, Michael – 57% TROEGER, Robert – 57% CERIN, Vladimir – 56% SOLIS, Walther – 56% HESS, Robert – 56% SADLER, John – 54% KRULJAC, Eric – 50% Main Track Routes CERIN, Vladimir – 83% GAINES, Carla – 75% DRYSDALE, Neil – 75% O’NEILL, Doug – 67% EURTON, Peter – 67% CARAVA, Jack – 67% BECERRA, Rafael – 67% MITCHELL, Mike – 63% HOLLENDORFER, Jerry – 63% SADLER, John – 61% PUYPE, Mike – 50% CANANI, Julio – 50% KORINER, Brian – 50% SHERLOCK, Gary – 50% GARCIA, Oscar – 50% Turf Sprints Sample size is too small Turf Routes HEADLEY, Bruce – 75% CASSIDY, James – 73% YAKTEEN, Tim – 67% MANDELLA, Gary – 67% GALLAGHER, Patrick – 61% PUYPE, Mike – 60% SAHADI, Jenine – 60% KRULJAC, Eric – 50% McCARTHY, Sean – 50% STUTE, Gary – 50% EURTON, Peter – 50% AVILA, A.C. – 50% WARREN, Donald – 50% ELLIS, Ron – 50% JONES, Marty – 50% O’NEILL, Doug – 50% MACHOWSKY, Michael – 50%
Keith L. More than 1 year ago
Annie: My condolences on your Rusty's passing. I know the sense of loss well, as our beloved household cat slipped away peacefully in her sleep several weeks ago. You have, of course, all the fond memories to help with that loss! Keith L.
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
"KeithL" " welcome back, you've been missed." three-qtrs of the blog raised it's eyebrows with that qoute lock up your daughter lock up your wife lock up your front door run for your life the man is back in town ha Keith..glad 2 c u finally decided 2 come in 2 the 21 first century. btw, stop shopping at K MART 4 your clothes plaid & corduroys went out in the 70's welcome back peace VQ VQ
Keith L. More than 1 year ago
VQ...and Laura and Calvin: Thanks for the welcome back. I'd like to say that the long absence was due solely to the poor form evident in the first half of the 2011 season, especially for the three year olds, but yes, it was my hAndabit of clinging to those things cheapand still usefull far too long, as VQ pretty much summed up with that K-Mart remark ! I have followed along reading Formblog in my absence from commenting fairly regularly, and have enjoyed the joys and anguish of the many contributors here both old and young. And, of course, Dan the Man's insightfull offerings! But I'm chomping at the bit to add my own contributions...and look forward to doing that with the Jim Dandy and Haskel coming up this weekend. I note that there is pace a pleanty shaping up for the Haskel, so I'm looking for a stalker-closer type that could get the job Oh, and Anniedone at some value...any suggestions would be greaatly appreciated! For the Jim Dandy, SR Vegas would never forgive me if I didn't back Dominus I know!! Looking forward to the second half of a strange year in horse racing!
Mike A More than 1 year ago
James Mc Underground Bunker? I reckon so......Posting horses is in the past, Now I have a select few folks I talk to over the phone, we talk horses and see what shakes out. I enjoy it more, to have folks looking at the form in real time and let them see how yopu go about picking price horses. Like Sunday......Of course I liked Bretton Woods, but when the third came up I was on the phone with a blogger and pointed out how Hysterical Cat had an excellent shot at winning, due to the speed bias the Mellon course was showing.....take Luigi P's drop down and the fact he liked Saratoga along with Tennis Rackets breeding and speed from the outside and you could make some real money. There was no one in the race that was so unbeatable.....It worked out as they ran 1-2-3. The most important part was the blogger sees this......sees the method to my madness so to speak. It's how you learn.....in real time, hands on. I don't give out theories, I give out results. VQ.......keep up with Weaver, his Frivolous Buck just missed at 11-1 in the stake yesterday....... Annie........sorry dear.....while I've never had a pet, some friends that are gone now could very well have been considered animals.......I still miss them. Mike A
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
BSB WOW..YOUR ON THE WARPATH 2 DAY good stuff as 4 this " HP blamed part of their handle decrease on, no, Z" when i read that the other day my eyes rolled in my head what a bunch of NITWITS as 4 the Rabbler-Rouser on the west coast never said she/he was revolting read the post again said the "revolt" started on the west coast as 4 C being the dogman..no way JOSE the dogman does write some good stuff on the industry as a whole peace VQ
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
Annie my condolence peace VQ
Alfredo More than 1 year ago
Annie, Very sorry to hear about the loss of your beloved Rusty. Tears always come to my eyes when I think back to the loss of my little friend Murphy.
Whackymacky More than 1 year ago
Annie So sorry to hear of the loss of your dear friend Rusty. He went in a peaceful way and you had many wonderful years with such a good friend. Remember the good times. I am truely sorry. Whackymacky
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
VQ, a revolting rabble-rouser from the west coast ? Is that the guy that got swallowed by a fish ? LOL. I know you can't mean the Submarine Racer ? Has Tencent Cielo been causing a bunch of trouble lately ? Will the real Revolting Rabble-Rouser please stand up ? LOL. If you meant me, I'll give you the Rabble-Rouser part, buttZ... why do you have to call me revolting ? LOL. Speaking of revolting. I had a player one time that the other players had been calling Yuck since they were small boys. One day I asked one of the other players why we called him Yuck. The kid shook his head back and forth smiling like I asked a dumb question and said, " Dang Cobra just take a good look at him ! " LOL. We all got a good laugh including Yuck. Yuck was a good kid even if he wasn't the most handsome. That was an excellent team. They were very comfortable with each other. They had confidence in each other and they hated to lose.
okiesharp More than 1 year ago
Curt V. I read your post on 12-15-2010 @ 11:39 a.m. "I see the surface switch as a 90% + overall throw out winner". To clarify; In your opinion, are you saying that a horse switching from plastics to dirt is an automatic throw out for the win position?
Alan More than 1 year ago
Because of the surface change after the P4 began, SAR4 is now an 'All' for the early P4. I have lost at least 2 NYRA P4s in my life likely because of a surface change in the final leg. It's a good "newer" rule...
uncle tanuse More than 1 year ago
NEWSFLASH With my 41 yrs. of ultra successful handicapping I can state with the utmost confidence that you can look for T. Pletcher to have a good meet at Stoga. P.S. To know me is to love me.....
Laura More than 1 year ago
Annie, I'm so sorry to read about your beloved Rusty. His long life is a testament to the love and care you lavished on him. I know only time will help ease your grief and we'll be here when you are ready. Keith L, SO glad you've joined the modern age! Ain't it grand? Are there any technical gurus out there besides Uncle Steve? We're ..er...HE's going to try and install my new flash chat room and it's very involved. When you need instructions to understand the instructions, it's serious. Anyone with experience/knowledge in installing flash chats and willing to donate some time to help get the new IMT chat room up and running please email me at: lross@ironmaidensthoroughbreds.com Thanks! Laura CAPTCHA Atitiond expected - oh I have a few comments for this one, but none G rated. heheh.
fishky More than 1 year ago
The Sunday New York Post has a pretty good sports section- after reading, you can use as toilet paper(which is, after all, up to the individual in the choice in personal hygiene). There is also a "play & win" chess problem in the Sunday paper.
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
James Mc , Santa Rosa is a nice little track. The only fair track with a turf course. I like the fairs because almost none of my money goes to a shiek or someone that thinks they have royal blood in them. So Golden Gate is going to 3 days of 7-8 horse fields ? Three days won't increase field siZe . Field siZe is going to be the same as it ALWAYS has been, as LSDs research showed. Field siZe is a red herring ! Avg. field siZe hasn't changed but by a fraction of a horse since 1950 as Dan showed several months ago decade by decade. Typical wall street American solution (he shakes his head in disgust) DownsiZe the workforce to try to squeeZe another dime out. Even if it increased field siZe (it won't significantly) do you think another throw out in each race is going to increase handle or produce a better "product" ? I don't. They make token acknowledgement of PETA with appeasments like Nurf Whips & No Lasix ,buttZ...they act like the players don't exist. They raise the take and an Exec says something like , the players are so stupid they don't know there is such a thing as take. 3% here or there to those morons won't change our bottom line. What are they going to do ? Bet someplace else ? ( isn't that pretty close to what that SA guy said more or less Curt V ? ) News Flash for Stronach !! PETA DON'T BET !! I do. I want the race horses I bet getting whipped with a real whip. Everybody has heard the old saw that "some horses don't like getting whipped ." LOL. Thats not right . ALL horses don't like getting whipped !! Thats why they run faster trying to avoid it ! I want every horse on Lasix & Bute ! When 1/2 the horses come back bleeding from the nostrils like they did when I started going to the races PETA is going to jump on that. Save The Baby Racehorse bumper stickers & commercials will start popping up all over !! Meantime players are going to be betting horses that bleed to much to win this time and maybe not to much next time. Another variable that the player doesn't need & the horses damn sure ain't gonna like. The half that didn't bleed back then were the ones that didn't try or the ones that got a little of the "Formula Secreto". LOL. Every athlete is always muscle sore to some degree. Making sore horses run without Bute is not doing anybody any good, least of all the horses and players.Repeating that for emphasis . ALL athletes get muscle sore. Anybody that says don't run sore horses is really saying don't run horses period, in a roundabout way, because running them is going to make them sore. There is going to be so many 1880s secret cocktails being reintroduced its gonna make your head spin. The labs will be testing for Lasix & Bute. What a joke ! LOL. How long before Dutrow, Biancone or Mullins have a poisonous replacement for Lasix & Bute ? A little rattlesnake tail, some eye of newt, 3 hairs from a camels hump & the sexual organs of the female black widow is what they use in England, France and Asia. LOL. Whats the Under / Over on those trainers learning to cheat the rule measured in seconds VQ ? LOL. I'm not saying I love ice racing at the Big A,buttZ... as MikeA has pointed out many times it allows a good share of Yorkie trainers and owners to stay in business. It gives lesser jocks a chance to make some dough and weaker horses a chance to run at their level.Meantime there is a winner in every race for the Players that care to risk it. Every horse has its level . The horses running around the field across the street have their level. The problem with racing is the same problem throughout the economy. To much money at the top in to few hands. Cut stakes and Alw purses across the board by 40 % and raise the purses for lower levels, cut take out on the players and you'll see more horses continuing to run and handle increase. If the big boys want to pile up money they'll have to run more than a few times to do it. Old geldings & players will be coming out of retirement .Cheap horses will go back to running every 2 weeks. Stakes horses once a month. I'll guarantee that the shieks, Magnier, Tabor & Farrish won't quit. There is no shortage of cheap horses . There has always been a shortage of good horses. If the horses in a given race are 1/2 @$$ed matched what difference should it make to the player if its a stake or an N2L. Would you rather have three 10 horse mdns or two 14 horse mdns ? I'd rather have three 10 horsers. Trying to rebrand racing as entertainment is whats taken it downhill.Management seems to be very concerned with the rebranding as entertainment concept & not very concerned with the core of their business (handling money for a cut ) If the handle is decreasing, the way to make it up is not less days. Catering to the Micro-brew set or the lady that goes out to watch Z run every couple of months ain't gonna do it. Z is a windfall not a business model. Hollywood Park blamed part of their handle decrease on NO Z. Gimme a break . I was there. More than half the people at the track never made a bet. The windows were never more than 3 deep. Z's not coming along again anytime soon so they better get a real plan. The track can't survive on FANS . It needs Players. Okay thats my rant on things wrong with racing. I fully expect nothing to be done about them and to watch the game slowly disappear over the next few decades. Eventually shrinking to a 3 day Nostalgia festival sponsored by BC LTD. & Arab Emirates Airlines permanently based at Saratoga. The mother of all horse racing /rock concert/beer bashes, the week long California Horsapaloosa Jam brought to you by Magna Kegasus Magnanimous & the Micro Brewers Assoc. of America. Of course, the YUM BRANDS Kentucky Derby brought to you by, " at least our horses are 100% meat " Taco Bell, will still be around too. LOL.
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
Steve only jk i know enough about u 2 realize it would have been a lot of fun 2 hang out/party with u back in your day. VQ
Steve T More than 1 year ago
Young Mr. Rosario is indeed having issues at Del Mar. Through today he is a combined 0/22 on the main track and has been making some abysmal decisions.
James Mc More than 1 year ago
Samyn on the green, my ass. I guess it's my fault for thinking a 73 year old would still be able to hustle a horse from the gate. Small wonder he's like 3.2% for the last decade. Poor Considerate, hoss deserves better. Steve Crist has now weighed in authoritatively and confirmed a steep Beyer drop for Overdriven. According to my buddy Tom Pletcher (he is a Pletcher fan named Tom, hence the unfortunate appelation that he has been bestowed), this means only that he is due to peak and will run a 157 in his third start of the form cycle. Obviously. This horse just might be another Squirtle Squirt (do I detect a gasp among the assembled company?) Salutations to Mike A in his underground bunker. He clearly does not need the bullshit. Can we please get a big cloudburst so Durkin can reprise his joke about the fourth "regatta" at Saratoga? That stuff is comedy gold.
Whackymacky More than 1 year ago
WTG Steve T !!! You are the King of Del Mar Have you in a special section in my notebook... After catcher many fish off the shore's of Nantucket Island, I got home to play my girl that has something to prove at Del Mar!!! She has soft hands and will get more mounts as the days move along... Big ticket in the 1st and the double paid very nicely!!! You all know her name!!! Quit right after the 2nd racd. Sorry, if you think that it is Redboarding!!! Good luck all and keep up the great job of picking winner's Uncle Steve!!! my money is in my account. Whackymacky out!!!
Steve T More than 1 year ago
Alright, let's do it again, why let something like a beatdown yesterday stop me? DEL MAR – Sunday (07-24-2011) – PolyPed Scores Race 1 #1 Flawless Jewel (60) #2 Izshelegal (55) #3 Solar Wind (52) #4 Heidi Maria (75) #5 Mayakoba Mesa (50) #6 Our Mrs Weinsteins (79) #7 Tiz Heartless (58) Race 3 #1 Detective Poirot (0*) #2 Golden Bounty (43) #3 Star World (0*) #4 Fort William (150*) #5 Crown Royalty (0*) #6 Stardust Dancer (43) #7 Depth (67) #8 Spicy Beau (40) Race 5 #1 We Wanted It More (16) #2 Crispy Corey (30) #3 Free From My Ex (75) #4 Point Mugu (34) #5 Onebadboy (50) #6 Doughboy (34) #7 Dontwiseupadummy (0*) #8 Last Caper (29) #9 Creston Cowboy (38) #10 Smokin Bomb (65) #11 Best Logic (0*) #12 Final Answer (100) Race 7 #1 Already There (38) #2 Finegan Again (75) #3 Panettone (54) #4 Gifted Monarch (63) #5 Got Even (40) #6 Vee Voom Rules (14) #7 Our Boy Benjamin (32) #8 Raya Roja (54) #9 Spectacularjourney (0) #10 Valentine Boy (N) #11 Jeffrey’s Pride (N) #12 Gannicus (43) #13 Unusual Heatwave (53) (AE) #14 Three Vases (67) (AE) Race 9 #1 Mona Storm (8) #2 Our Lady Gaga (67) #3 Bonita Montana (40) #4 Safe Word (53) #5 O She So (10) #6 Billssecondchance (65) #7 Katy’s Kitty (0*) #8 Missilette (65) #9 Lady Lazer (60) #10 Cayala (38) #11 Binky’s Sister (43) #12 Be Driven (50) #13 Stormy Alibi (60) (AE)
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
OMG! I just saw the P6 carry over for Del Mar is 239K. My, My ...Formblog P6 players, sharpen your pencils for Wednesday. Good Luck! Van Savant Nice to hear that although your Handicapping was not up to par, your dinner party was above par! & some Teenagers can be lots of fun!
Annie More than 1 year ago
My beloved dog, Rusty, died in his sleep last night. He was almost seventeen years old, and I know that is a very long life for a dog. But, it's hard. Please forgive me if I take some time. Annie
Van Savant More than 1 year ago
Annie; I am sorry to read that. Take care.
knm More than 1 year ago
Annie, Please accept my sincere condolences on Rusty's death. It's so hard to lose a family member. Dying in his sleep, though, I think is as good as it gets for anyone.
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Laura Glad your Dad is doing well. I'll be on the road to CA this weekend, unlikely to join in chat... which is a total bummer as it is always so fun and some great handicapping happens there. If you can rent my chandelier out for the night, and make some $$....go for it! 'maternal dublia'
James Mc More than 1 year ago
Wow, so much for Dynamo emerging as the next Lure. Rosario seems to be a Santos-ian. Take the horse 16 lengths off a moderate pace. Way to go, Junior. At this rate, you'll be the next Eddie Maple.
James Mc More than 1 year ago
Not for nothing but, if Overdriven gets another 100 Beyer, Coaltown Legend (6th race claimer winner) and Happy Bull deserve the same figs. And, oh yeah, Saddleranch deserves about a 123 for his race yesterday. This is all based on final times.
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
VQ, yes . High first out numbers have a tendency to regress a little. They always get bet heavily. Sometimes a little regression gets them beat at low odds. Not always though. Projections are not automatic,but being able to project makes the difference between being a winner or loser in those situations. I got my usual one winner in the PH contest. 2 exs, 2 tris . Smarty Jones didn't have any winners this week for the first time this month. She needed City to City to get up . She would have opened a good lead in the monthly. She's still in 3rd $2.60 back and it will come down to next week . Go Smarty ! She's still on the front page in 35th for the overall contest.
Steve T More than 1 year ago
VQ, I am not disparaging crazy chicks, Lord knows I have had more than my share of fun in their company. There was this night in Cocoa Beach and I was out and about with a stripper from the Fantasy Showbar by the name of Princess Orgasma, and I do sorta remember the Thirsty Turtle and a trip to the Key West Taco Company at 2:00 AM and then there was that "do you understand your rights as I have explained them?" thing... As far as crazy sailors? I've heard rumors.
James Mc More than 1 year ago
CONSIDERATE in th 7th at the Spa fits my pace play paradigm.. at 11-1 as we speak.. I'm taking a swing and also using with Gitchee Goomee, who may benefit if others try to chase the top pick. Quick P-4: 1,3,6,8 - 1,5,14 - 2,4,5,6,7 - 2,3,12 $90 for a $0.50 play My captcha is "equesvAu addition", which I'm taking to mean that you should always throw in the improbable longshot that keeps jumping out at you in exotics plays. Or is that just the mad bomber/Dr. Derango in me?
brutus4633 More than 1 year ago
Sat at the Spa...if you weren't watching....check out the 6 horse in the 6th race...Lae Tahoe (Brz) for McPeek. Johnny V up 1 1/16 trf ALW 53K 1X...look at the exploding move he makes up the rail. While I'm glad the 1 held on...Lake T was coming like a freight train...race starts abt 43 seconds into video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdaVyu9OPk0 Also 7th yday at Spa MSW R King of the Road for Pletcher...impressive MSW winner. He's Trippi/Holiday Tune (Concorde's Tune) 2nd start...won for fun splits...21.6 44.2 56.3 1.09.08 Counting down the days first trip to the Spa...will be there for the Whitney... Good luck to all!
Molesap More than 1 year ago
DMR Race 3 Spot Play Discalimer - I have been terrible lately with these, so you may want to consider this an automatic toss. Golden Bountry returns to the races for Kathy Walsh with a monring line of 5-1. He raced once last year at DMRin a straight maiden race and has been off since, so Sunday marks his 3YO debut. He gets blinkers and has been gelded. Walsh has put a couple of good works into him, drops for a tag and she has a good record with horses returning from extended layoffs. I expect this one to run big here.
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Del Mar 7-24-11 Sunday a few prices to watch for today R1#2 Izshelegal R2#1 Doc Can Dance R3#2 Golden Bounty R4# 8 Ex Lover R6# 4 Earnednevergiven R8#8 Rosehill Dew (IRE) R9#6 Bills Second Chance good luck all mh01
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Annie companys here I got to go get some ice mh01
Annie More than 1 year ago
I thought someone was kidding when they said there was going to be a Battle of the Exes between Chantal Sutherland and Mike Smith. But sure enough, match race on Aug. 7th at DMR. So the engagement is officially off? I hope she kicks his butt! :) Captcha: 1972 ioncepo: That's what kind of computer I had before I got my new one. LOL! Annie
Keith L. More than 1 year ago
Hi Annie: I'm back on formblog before the week is out, thanks to a new Toshiba Satellite and ATT&T hi speed router! Retiring the old "warhorse" beige box running Windows 98 on dial up for god's sake. I'm looking forward to joinging the fray again! With Mike back to drinking seriously, Chantal should walk her horse home in that match race, no doubt! Keith L.
Annie More than 1 year ago
Just watched the 5th race at DMR on the DRF feed. Did you happen to notice that the winner, #11, took a dump prior to the race? I have a friend that believes in that. Says the horse is more comfortable. Sure ran like he was comfortable. LOL! BTW, no buffering problems on DRF today. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
BTW, the #11 was a B (according to M/L odds) even though he went off at 10-1. :) Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
So that makes this Pick 5: A,B,B,B,B. No Cs, although the Cs have popped up more often at DMR than at HOL. Mostly ridden by Chantal Sutherland. :) Annie
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Annie sorry about your P5 yesterday I thought chantal would have a chance because of the cut back in distance btw Buffum also worked 7-17-11 at belmont 100.05 B mh01
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
b4 toga opened MikeA said he looked 4 Barclay Tagg & George Weaver 2 have a good meet. weaver got his 1st win 2 day in the 1st race with bretton woods paying $22 or their abouts. as of now he's 1/3. Tagg has had 1 winner paying $9, he's 1/4. 4 those of u wondering why Mike hasn't been posting lately is b/c he has decided 2 take the company private after dealing with the shareholder revolt that occured last month. said he doesn't need all that BS. 4 those of u not keeping score the the revolt started on the west coast led by that well known Rabble-Rouser. peace VQ
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Annie another work for Buffum 7-24-11 saratoga 59.67 B maybe getting ready for a race? mh01
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Pig Bodine "as tears are welling up in my eyes." Ohhh Nooo! Bummer. You must hate those scratches. Alfredo Nice hit in HG this week. Hope you had it in real $$.
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
" so much for the bombers...betting del mar is like dating a CRAZY CHICK- it can be really fun or it can be a total nightmare and you never know which one is going to show up." it's funny that u say that..just the other day i was talking 2 some girls and they said the same exact thing. only they were talking about SAILORS u know...NITEMARE on elm street peace VQ
James Mc More than 1 year ago
I'll try and beat Overdriven today. He only faced four horses in his debut and I think the quality of the field he defeated may well be weaker than what some of the shippers have been up against. POWER WORLD closed like a rocket to win his debut and then came back to run a game second in the Bashford at Churchill. He looks to me like he should get an excellent setup here. Ward's two shippers (BLESS THE SOLDIER and BLACK RHINO) come in off easy wins on turf/synth, Lukas' horse, MOONRUSH, should be a pace factor at least, 21+ at CD last time, Cornelio will likely be aggressive on the lead. Simply can't take Overdriven at 2/5 off one race. May even try to beat him out of the show if there is a bridgejumper pool. I'll take my four in the exotics, with an emphasis of POWER WORLD on top. Have to pass most of the Spa races, they are too inscrutable, but I will continue to look for price plays on select horses/jockeys who have the capacity to wire a field on the turf. Read that Golden Gate is going to 3-days a week for the fall meet to try and increase field size. I think we may start to see this increasingly at the non-premier tracks over the next few years. Even in New York, especially with the demise of OTB, do we really want or need Aqueduct to run on a Wednesday afternoon in February? How many of the old punters who used to go to the OTB just for something to do are going to make the trek out to bet at the track in the dead of winter? Wouldn't it be better to run enhanced quality weekend cards? I'd argue that they cancel the Aqueduct winter meet entirely but that's just me. Looking forward to Santa Rosa opening next week, one of my favorite little meets, would like to get out there to see it live one of these years.
Laura More than 1 year ago
SR Vegas, Thanks, Dad's in the hospital again, this time with pneumonia. I have a feeling he caught it two weeks ago in ICU. He's responding well to treatment. The Kiddie List is back on the IMT blog today after having a few days off to deal with family issues. http://ironmaidensthoroughbreds.blogspot.com/ The Sanford Stakes can be found on the main IMT site: http://www.ironmaidensthoroughbreds.com/ We'll have a 'capping chat on FRIDAY, JULY 29, so make plans to join in! Laura PS - Primo, you left the lights on in the chat room and I saw your footprints on the sofa. Were you jumping on the couch? Also Sharon's chandler was tilted. CAPTCHA: Ocean rchallo - grilled, blackened or fried?
Steve T More than 1 year ago
DEL MAR – Saturday (07-23-2011) I think this card is going to be a bomber’s paradise. Here are the ones I am going to focus on: Race 1 – Yankee Gone South (5/2) Race 2 – Winsome Charm (5/1) Race 3 –Guidopanzini (8/1) Race 4 – Judicious (5/1) Race 5 – Kayce Ace (15/1) Race 6 – Unusual Beam (12/1) Race 7 – Lady Sweetness (6/1) Race 8 – Leroy’s Dynameaux (20/1) Race 9 – El Gran Matador (15/1) Race 10 – Confectionist (8/1
Average Joe More than 1 year ago
Wondering if you guys could help me out. Are the Formulator PP's a benefit for an average/ occasional player? Looking to buy my Saratoga package and was not sure what info is easily used in the formulator. Also, anyone know what the $5 Saratoga players guide is? Thank you very much for any help.
Steve T More than 1 year ago
Here are the Poly Scores for the main track races on Saturday: Race 1 #1 Special Kid (71) #2 Ribat (36) #3 Yankee Gone South (110) #4 Kingsford Drive (43) #5 Palio Prince (53) #6 Chinese Praise (150*) Race 3 #1 Pee H Dee (80) #1A Observance (N) #2 Secret Circle (50) #3 Soul Saver (52) #4 Basmati (N) #5 Guidopanzini (100*) #6 Tummel (36) #7 Spit Ball (50) #8 Crimson Giant (44) #9 Good Mojo (N) Race 4 #1 Congress Woman Ivy (13) #2 Chk Chk Boom (30) #3 Dearly Concerned (0*) #4 Limerick Lane (51) #5 Meter Me Gone (N) #6 Michailasheartlite (53) #7 Judicious (100) #8 One Bad Texter (50*) Race 6 #1 Full Effect (44) #2 Unusual Beam (53) #3 Surplus (69) #4 Del Mar Johnny (43) #5 Grey Is Best (N) #6 Mint Humor (0*) #7 He Be Fire N Ice (53) #8 Field Report (44) #9 Hotradamus (53) #10 Brother Ernie (N – but an Unbridled’s Song sire (96)) Race 7 #1 Ancient Holiday (52) #2 Moonstruck Maya (46) #3 Hi Ho Yodeler (44) #4 Lady Sweetness (80) #5 Teddy’s Promise (59) #6 Hakuchi (61) #7 Came West (53) #8 Home Sweet Aspen (80) #9 Orientatious (43) #10 Lunch Time Diva (64) Race 9 #1 Pure Distinction (0*) #2 El Gran Matador (80) #3 Regal Fever (33) #4 Kalyra Cat (38) #5 Fortunate Appeal (85) #6 Clue Me In (38) #7 Perfect Easter (N) #8 Star Dance MD (200*) #9 Le’ Heat (53) #10 The Full Lavino (100*) Race 10 #1 Warren’s Glitter (67) #2 Game Charmer (64) #3 Nana Beach (53) #4 Suances Star (0) #5 Someenchantd Evenin (43) #6 Confectionist (80) #7 Ohdaliz (17) #8 More Than Happy (53) #9 Miss Mystic (67) #10 Dancin Hooves (41) #11 Unbridled Thoughts (25) #12 Silver Luna (N – grandsire Silver Deputy is a 54) #13 Running Isabella (69) AE #14 Dynahere (0) AE
Alan More than 1 year ago
Dan, I'll save you some time since you are busy.... Performance of the Week: Jackson Bend WOW! 2.5L win = 108 Beyer. As a long-time fan of the horse (although nothing compared to some others, including vicstu), I was so proud of his win. He hadn't won since he was a 2yo, mostly due to his connections' infection with Derby Fever. Hopefully they finally realize what he is...a sprinter! Don't you wish there was a vaccine available for owners and trainers of promising 2yos to keep them from developing Derby Fever?
Steve T More than 1 year ago
So much for the bombers... betting Del Mar is like dating a crazy chick - it can be really fun or it can be a total nightmare and you never really know which one is going to show up. I guess you just wait until I declare a card to be a total chalkfest and wade on in. Thank God for Judicious. I have updated the Poly Sires List and the Jockey stats through today. If you want a copy of it, just e-mail me at wildcat@wirelessmail.us and I will send you a copy after I update it tomorrow. As they say in the submarine world - as long as the number of dives and surfaces are equal, it's all good.
Van Savant More than 1 year ago
Heavens-ta-mergatroid…that was a bad day at the track for me yesterday. Granted, it was only four races, but I completely whiffed. I could have had the $67 Pick 3 beginning in race 5 had I bet it, but I had other plans that included longshots that just weren’t good enough. By the time our dinner guests had arrived, I was too distracted to be able to run off and get to the computer to watch post parades and soak it in. I did catch all of the races, though. And no, the results didn’t spoil my evening, as the pit beef and side dishes were off the charts. The kids (we had six last night…four 14 year old girls and two 12 year old boys) were well-behaved, and most of the adults were as well (snort). I’m playing in the NHC Tour online tournament today, and none of the races fit my eye. Well, maybe a couple from Del Mar, but that’s about it. If you are playing today, good luck, and look for name near the bottom of the leaderboard later tonight. I’ll be back later with the full report. Late vs
Pig Bodine More than 1 year ago
Whoo Hoo! Hit $1.00 Superfecta in H.G.! What, Not enough entries? No superfecta? Excuse me but I can not continue, as tears are welling up in my eyes.
Turnbackthealarm More than 1 year ago
Steve T, I've had Kalk Bay on my watch list since you mentioned it. Nice call. Unfortunately one of your other "watch" horses is on everyone's radar now, Dynamo...........see front page of DRF. Calling all Del Mar aficionados: If you had a choice between reserved seats in the Clubhouse or in the "Stretch Run"(what they call the Grandstand) areas, which would you pick? Is Del Mar a place where you can go without reserved seats and walk around easily? Where is the best place to hang if you like to go back and forth from the paddock to the apron to watch the races? Does the apron get shady pretty early? For example, trackside at Saratoga is very very sunny all day because the grandstand faces mainly south. Monmouth and Belmont have high grandstands that face east, so the aprons become shady by mid afternoon. Is it worth it to do the buffet in the morning to watch the horses or can anyone walk in and watch morning workouts? P Ensign, You stated exactly what I was thinking. Any sensible and humble person would have apologized profusely.
KYL Syndicate More than 1 year ago
RIP "Rewilding" Saw the race this morning and it was a horrific spill. Nothing positive to say except I am glad before they put him down, they gave him some grass to eat to help take his mind off things... "I attended Rewilding with the groom -- he just put his leg down wrong and the cannon bone snapped clean in two," Gosden explained. "I've seen it happen with a horse galloping in a paddock and they feel nothing. The vet was on hand as we gave the horse a final munch of grass, and he dealt with it immediately."
bob m toga More than 1 year ago
toga recap and plays today.. had a good opening day at the spa. found my favorite spot by 1110 am. stood proudly for the national anthem and then it was off to the carousel for the handicapping seminar with andy and steve crist. could not hear of course but found a spot where i could. (they both loved jackson bend !!!) but i did not listen.. ran 2nd in the first race and hit the second to get off to a good start. 2 of my picks ran second yesterday. short shrift at 5-1 and true feelings at 7-1. had both exactas and triples in those races and would have done really well if either of them had won.. a few horses i like today.. race 1. mystic city.. (6-1) good speed and recent form and speed a killer on turf right now..cohen should move him into great spot either on lead or just off and get the run on the competition. race 3 glickman .. (5-1) long to short with alot of talent.. needs to be better than the baffert horse who is saddled with the rail.... race 4. swingin at siros (10-1) has rail and hopefully can work out just off the pace rail run as the rail was very good yesterday. improving and couple real nice works. castellano doesnt hurt either. race 9.. yorktown (12-1) .. motion good off the layoff. can sit trip inside and make run in race with lots of speed. very tough race so price may even go up closer to 16-18 to one.. good luck to all.. gotta get ready to get to my spot behind the carolina BBQ
Dick W More than 1 year ago
Alfredo I noticed your $50 tri in the HG. Congratulations ! I also noticed Jeffery's which was posted after yours. Congrats to him as well, just a little late. Don't know for sure if you won, but I didn't see any that topped yours. Dick W
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Del Mar saturday 7-23-11 R1 #4 Kingsford Drive cuts back in distance today which should do the trick with this colt been knocking on the door of late talamo stays here won his maiden at 4 and a half so this is his best distance will come from just off the pace to get nod #3 Yankee Gone South really like this one shipping in from LS has a ton of speed and walked away with a huge win in maiden race he will be flying early with speed freak pat v up worked 36.4 B at DRT #1 Special Kid takes the blinks off after disasterous try but they did get him to break rosario goes up today being 33% with trainer and will push this one to the front early for best effort R2 #2 Quietly Mine stretching out today but style tells me this one will be a factor going a mile looks to need a little more distance for his best race #4 Matto Mondo (CHI) has been running against better than these takes drop in class and gets new rider to maybe turn it around today has a lot of speed so think he uses that today to get a part #5 Winsome Charm has run fairly well in the mile having three board finishes should show a strong finish today cutting back R4 I have much trouble with these kind of races FTS s puzzle me but here goes #4 Basmati gets blinks trainer 19% #2 Secret Code 59.3 work says ready 34% J/T #1a Observance off very slow first race Baze stays and should improve today a win bet is called for here with right odds R4 #3 Dearly Concerned why the huge drop? been running against better and ships here for a claimer is jerry of his rocker or what this one will win for fun against these today has a win at del mar although no works here to date #5 Meter Me Gone one for one at del mar sprinting and rosario knows best look for an early run and try to hold on in the stretch the one to beat here #6 Michailasheartlite had her tightner so should be ready for best effort today bejarano goes up and has one of her wins last year look for a front running try today has a bullet work of 46.2 H a very fast filly R5 #3 Andina (IRE) hasnt won since march11 had two good efforts last ones and gomez takes over for this being 25% with trainer look for winning run today #1 Wild Mia if you throw out the gr. runs this filly is doing ok having a first and second on record flores up for last win so think he will have this filly in contention late stages is 7 for 8 in the exacta at this distance need I say more #7 Ninth Infantry those last three are awesome two wins and a neck away from third win with chantel up deserves a shot at the big money today a true front runner in every sence of the word the one to beat today R6 #2 Unusual Beam was off very slow in last should show an improvement today #6 Mint Humor is the one to beat with a show of speed today #1 Full Effect will be coming late to get the show R7 #9 Orientatious shold dominate this field today with bejarano up will walk over this bunch runs fresh and has a bullet work in tow beat her if you can #8 Home Sweet Aspen three for three in exactas for rosario and today will be no different a tough campaigner for sure is working well for come back a must use here #2 Moonstruck Maya had tightner did weaken a bit going longer than this race so feel she will be a early factor here rosario bails for another not a good sign might complete the tri today R8 #7 Caracortado today is the day he gets his gr. one win he has been denied five previous times so today he gets it talamo will have this one just off the pace and move down the lane to get the nod #8 Celtic Princess (BRZ) came back running this year for bejarano almost got the Gamely at Hollywood is tight as a drum right now so will be a tough beat today #5 Smart Bid tough campaigner all over the globe comes here with his own jockey in Prado and should be a tough contender today a placed gr. one horse is the one to beat here R9 #10 The Full Lavino flores the key in his last win at hollywood and cuts back today will have this one closing fast to get the money one for one in exacta at del mar the one to beat here #5 Fortunate Appeal runs good at this level cuts back today should have him left with plenty of drive in the lane two places for two at this distance the shift to gomez may be the ticket a must use #7 Perfect Easter a eastern shipper that thinks its easier out west is a hard finisher with 11 of 14 in the money picks flores for the ride will be a pace factor in this contest thats all folks good luck all mh01
Annie More than 1 year ago
Steve T, Don't play innocent. I know your tricks. :) Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Alfredo, Looks like you are the winner. WTG!! Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
I can see why Steve likes GUIDOPANZINI in the 3rd. I like two-year-olds that have a workout at a longer distance than they're going to run in their debut. And he's the only one in the field that has done so. Also, Rosario has chosen to ride. But, we always have to worry about Baffert firsters. He apparently has some good two-year-olds as usual, and SECRET CIRCLE is the one he chose to start out with. The rail can be problematic for firsters, but he's had several fast gate works, so he just might get out there and take them wire to wire. If he's good enough. :) I'll need to take those two for sure. Not sure about the favorite, BASMATI. He was 43-1 in his first start, finishing 3rd. But that 3rd was to BRIGAND, who just ran second in that Stakes race at HOL.Trainers putting blinkers on him too and has done well with that move. Annie
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Alfredo looks like you took down the HG congratulations on a great pick mh01
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
BSB saw your comments on HG243 yesterday. georgies angel who had a BSF of 82 1st time out and 11points higher than the next horse ran a 76 yesterday according 2 the dogman ( btw, who i like ). remember what u said about baby's running a good number 1st out and how much proggession can u expect next out though u stated they can certainly win running a lower number. VQ
mpm101 More than 1 year ago
speed on the main track at Del Mar seems to be worthless so far, at least till I start betting against it probably. Dies in first race, dies in sixth race as decent favorites. Now when I figure its time to play against it they probably win for fun at decent prices. I know Steve T said speed is no good but "lone speed" also. Lol mpm101
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Uncle Steve I'm watching your poly sires, and saw Secret Circle (Eddington) win effortlessly today in race #3, 2 yo maidens. Would you upgrade Eddington from a (50 score, C grade) to a 100 score, A grade now? His current record being 3-1-1-0 ..I fiqure 33% winner, and 67% in the money stats. And race #4 Judicious 3 yo F (Wildcat Heir) 100 score, A grade ..now 8-4-0-1 I figure 50% winner and 63% in the money, upgrade to a 113 score? Have I got that right? I know I won't be able to watch and see all these races, but these looked nice winning today. Thanks for sharing ALL the data you have gathered. It's easy to pull up at Laura's site. 'not leogra'
Alfredo More than 1 year ago
Annie, mh01, Dick W et al, Thanks you very much! Your kind words are so typical of this message board. It is distinguished not only by the civility of the community but also the quality of useful information. Average Joe, For me there is nothing like an ol'DRF hard copy. I really like putting some marks on the paper but Formulator is a great supplement. I really like using Formulator for: > getting more in depth info on trainer angles > PPs further back than 10 races > sibling summary info > REPLAYS! My only problem with Formulator is that there is so much terrific stuff it is easy for me to get distracted. I notice the special on the DRF website allows you to take your 40 cards over the course of one year. As Larry David would say, " That sounds pretty..... pretty.....pretty good!"
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Laura I hope everything is well with you and family. I was visiting your site and saw your note.
Calvin L. Carter More than 1 year ago
Glorious Goodwood Vintage Stakes looks nice with Red Duke, Harbour Watch, Roman Soldier in early entries: http://bit.ly/oNndVV
Ned Daly More than 1 year ago
Signs of the Apocalypse Not only did Chrisophe Clement send out a winner at Suffolk last week, Monday's 6th at Suffolk lists Abtasaamah - a Godolphin horse trained by bin Suroor. Trainer scratch at Saratoga yesterday. Maybe they can get more than a couple dozen people actually at the track. Temperatures expected to be much more reasonable after today.
Steve T More than 1 year ago
I guess I overdid the coffee this morning. I know that Laura posted my rant about Star Spangled Heat not getting all the way up at 41/1 and that he would not be anywhere near that in his next run… But, he just ran a serious bullet work this morning, a second and a half faster than the other 65. Think this one is another from this breeding that will get dramatically better quickly. This is a breeding that has five foals, one never raced, Bel Air Sizzle made $515K, America’s Friend made $282K and there are the two young ‘uns – California Heat who is struggling and this one. If I know Abrams he will put him in a spot where he looks to be in over his head, don’t believe it, and look for a rider change to Talamo, Gomez, Sutherland and go for it! Here is another to watch, a two year old filly that Vann Belvoir shipped from Emerald Downs, Courtney’s Prize, by Orientate out of the Carson City mare Strong Credentials. The dam went 9-3-2-2 in her career, this is the sixth foal, four have made it to the track, all have won. She has had two starts, finished second both times and has never worked like she did on Friday, running a :59.20 bullet (1 of 38). He is sending some nice ponies down from NorCal and Emerald. There was another from the Friday works worth a note – an unraced colt for Jeff Bonde, Balgriffin, who worked :59.80, he and Courtney’s Prize were the only two under a minute. This was his seventh work so expect him right around the time of the FormBlog Del Mar get together. Here is one who just ran her second work, Street Rat Crazy, who bulleted her 3F in :35.40. She is a late starting three year old with an obscure pedigree – Joe Who x Rock N Kiss, Kissin Kris. The dam has three foals, none of them made it to the track, but this one seems to have some potential. She won’t show up until September or at Fairplex. Might as well keep going – another bullet worker was the double PolyPed Cast a Doubt, a two year old gelding by Wildcat Heir out of the FuPeg mare Casting Pearls. This one was born to run – ON POLY! She debuted in the Willard Proctor in June, finishing fourth and then a straight maiden in July where she finished 6th, so you will get paid when she runs. Wildcat Heir is a 100 Poly score, Fusaichi Pegasus is an 80, so she has genes galore. Here is one of those maiden claimers that I was talking about, Blue Grass Music, a three year old by Bluegrass Cat out of the Kris S mare Killoe – she finished 5th in her debut against straight maidens, they dropped her to MCL and she finished 2nd as the favorite. Then she came to Del Mar and promptly ran the fastest work ever, a :47.20, almost two seconds faster than she has ever run before. They need to step her back up to MSW to get any value. There is yet another worth watching, two year old Cascina who made her debut at Hollywood on July 7th, finishing 3rd to Candrea, and she was fearless, splitting horses and missed second by a head. Bullet work on Thursday says she is worth a bet next out. Here is a five year old who seems to be getting better, Calimonco; not surprising because of the breeding (Storm Cat x Sweet Life), making him full to millionaire sisters Sweet Catomine and Life Is Sweet. This will be his first run at Del Mar – but he has wins at Keeneland, Woodbine and Arlington, and since he only has three wins lifetime… do the math. He just ran a 1:12.00 flat work on Thursday. I think that’s it… maybe.
p ensign More than 1 year ago
re: Mike Smith and DUI Personally think it's a classless move to say "i blew a little over" and "my home road" - driving when impaired is taking other people's lives in your hands, that's just a fact - admit you were wrong and freaking apologize... what is it with athletes and that "stronach the world" attitude? i have lost not an inconsiderable amount of respect for the guy
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Mike Smith isnt that how shoemaker died a couple of drinks and on the way home?
James Mc More than 1 year ago
Interesting race in the 5th, Durkin described it as a brutal pace (23/47?), I'm giving Naki all the credit for being on the same page with me and sending Ordained, even missing by a yard. The little bobble at the start of the race was probably the difference. Durkin should've pointed out the hideous ride by Castellano, wrangling back the 7/5 favorite off a moderate pace, instead of going on about the pace Nakitani set on Ordained.
Steve T More than 1 year ago
I know that Laura posted my rant about Star Spangled Heat not getting all the way up at 41/1 and that he would not be anywhere near that in his next run… But, he just ran a serious bullet work this morning, a second and a half faster than the other 65. Think this one is another from this breeding that will get dramatically better quickly. This is a breeding that has five foals, one never raced, Bel Air Sizzle made $515K, America’s Friend made $282K and there are the two young ‘uns – California Heat who is struggling and this one. If I know Abrams he will put him in a spot where he looks to be in over his head, don’t believe it, and look for a rider change to Talamo, Gomez, Sutherland and go for it!
Steve T More than 1 year ago
TBTA, Heat is not going to be a problem at Del Mar, it is seriously close to the ocean and it tends to stay in the mid 70’s to mid 80’s throughout the meet. I would go with the Clubhouse reserved seats, you have better access to tellers and it gives you a place to retreat to after wandering around. Del Mar is a lot like Saratoga in that a bunch of non-horseplayer types show up on the weekends and gum the works up – 18 women in floppy hats (and their purse holding husbands) in line who are betting two dollars to show on Jackie’s Choice because of their Uncle Jackie… It is not a large track, it is pretty compact and easy to get around in normally. The workout stands are on the back stretch, and the works buffet is a great way to start the day, although it can be a little chilly. The clubhouse and grandstands actually face northeast and the sun is not usually a problem.
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
Steve T. You are correct sir. I've had 3 winners in 3 days at DMR and I'm ahead. One of the winners paid $34 though. What has made everything profitable is a bunch of nice place horses including a $32 one yesterday and some ex/ tris. DMR tends to play about 4 % less winning favorites over all, year in and out if my memory isn't screwed up. (no gaurantee there). P.Ensign, I was hauling @$$ down my home road ( I- 5 ) half crocked, whats all the fuss about ? LOL. TBTA, I'll see about digging something out. LOL.
Steve T More than 1 year ago
Bombs Away!! You may fire when ready Gridley: DEL MAR – Saturday (07-23-2011) Race 1 – Yankee Gone South, Kingsford Drive, Chinese Praise DD: Special Kid Race 2 – Winsome Charm, Achak, Matto Mondo DD: Waltzing With Blue Race 3 – Basmati, Guidopanzini, Tummel DD: Pee H Dee/Observance Race 4 – Judicious, Meter Me Gone, Dearly Concerned DD: Chk Chk Boom Race 5 – Kayce Ace, City to City, Ninth Infantry DD: Miss Pleasant Race 6 – Mint Humor, He Be Fire N Ice, Surplus DD: Unusual Beam Race 7 – Lady Sweetness, Home Sweet Aspen, Orientatious DD: Hakuchi Race 8 – Caracortado, Celtic Princess, Kid Edward DD: Leroy’s Dynameaux Race 9 – Fortunate Appeal, Star Dance MD, The Full Lavino DD: El Gran Matador Race 10 – Confectionist, Warren’s Glitter, Miss Mystic DD: Game Charmer
Calvin L. Carter More than 1 year ago
The team of trainer Todd Pletcher and Mike Repole had considerable success last year with a talented two-year-old colt named Uncle Mo and it looks like they might have another talented young runner in Overdriven who will go to the starting gate Sunday as the 3-5 morning line favorite in the 97th running of the $150,000 Sanford Stakes (G2) at Saratoga Race Course. http://classicchampionthoroughbreds.blogspot.com/2011/07/sanford-stakes-racing-roundup.html
Annie More than 1 year ago
Dallas Keen is the only trainer in the Pick 5 races that has a chance to take down that bonus money. It's for winning horses that made their prior start out of California. It only applies to their first start here, so they should be ready to run. Dallas has two of them. YANKEE GONE SOUTH in the first and FUTURE COVENANT in the 2nd. I have a feeling he will win one of them. I like Yankee the best, in fact I'm thinking about singling him. But, I'll probably cover the other one too. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Steve T, Maybe it's like cut loose. Like really go all out as in "Footloose" movie. Annie
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Del Mar 7-23-11 a few prices you might consider today R1#5 Palio Prince 12-1 R3#1a Observance 20-1 R4#1 Congress Woman Ivy 12-1 R5#4 Timezone R6#2 Unusual Beam 12-1 R7#7 Came West 20-1 R9#10 The Full Lavino 10-1 these are all possible to hit the board at a price today good luck all mh01
Van Savant More than 1 year ago
Del Mar – 7/23/11 Race #5 – This is a very tough race, and it should also be a very fun race to watch and wager. KAYCE ACE (#8) has the look of a very live longshot here trying turf for the first time. She has been working smartly for Trainer Harty, and can be placed just about anywhere in the race by PVal. CITY TO CITY (#5) has won at this level and even owns a Grade II win, so class is not an issue. Doesn’t appear to be really in-form but has the ability to contend in here. LILLY FA POOTZ (#9) has lost nine races in a row and appears to be somewhat un-trustworthy, buy she goes Blinkers Off and is working very well. ANDINA (#3) also looks dangerous here in her third race into this current form cycle. Jockey Gomez is a big plus and she will be closing late. Race #6 – UNUSUAL BEAM (#2) is an Abrams second-time starter (11%) and works lights out last time. I can read those signals. MINT HUMOR (#6) is talented and fast, but hasn’t been able to get up first. He’ll be there at the end, though. HE BE FIRE N ICE (#7) should appreciate the time off and the maturing process he has been going through. Woks are encouraging as well. FULL EFFECT (#1) should pick up a piece of this based on what he has done in 22 races. Race #7 – LADY SWEETNESS (#4) has too high of Trainer percentages for me to ignore and she could get a good stalking trip under Jockey Talamo. ORIENTATIOUS (#9) has run two very good races and is working well. Race #8 – LEROY’S DYNAMEAUX (#4) is a bit of a stab, but he may be ready to take things to a new level after that sharp win last time out and his recent work. CARACORTADO (#7) is all class and appears to be rounding into form nicely. SMART BID (#5) should force the pace here and is threat despite the presence of Jockey Prado. ACCLAMATION (#6) is a strong front-running type who will be there at the end. Very interesting card today, but I only played these races, so we’ll see. Dinner tonight at Chez Van Bastardo will be served following the 8th race. Rotisserie pit-beef (Alan can tell you all about this), barley and corn salsa, dinner salads and baguette bread are on the menu. Horseradish cream sauce, along with a mushroom/wine reduction are also slated. Cold beer, nice wines, good friends and family, of course. Should be a hoot. No white dinner jacket for me tonight…the food is too messy, plus the heat is well…well…you know… Have a great day today and please be safe out there!
Annie More than 1 year ago
Doggone it, Chantal! You put me out of the Pick 5 in the very first race. :( I hate that DMR will not be paying for 4 of 6. Even though it didn't pay much at HOL, multiplied by the number of horses, it provided some seed money for the next run at it. Now I'll get nothing. I had Matto Mondo in the 2nd and Baffert's firster, Secret Circle in the 3rd, but four of 5 will be worthless even if I get it. I've got 4 horses in each of the last two legs, but it doesn't matter now. :( Luckily I bet Secret Circle to win anyway. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
That should read 4 of 5, not 4 of 6. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Sure enough, I get 4 of 5 and get nothing. Look at the payoffs, though. $14,113.00 for 5. That kind of money is worth going after. And on a 50 Cent bet too. Meathead, I see you had that horse in the first. Um, I didn't want that horse to win. :( But, glad you hit a nice one. Steve T, You were right about Judicious. I included him on my ticket, but unfortunately didn't bet him to win. Annie
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Annie thanks for the shout out but did not bet chantel in first I had out of town guests for the weekend and didnt go to the track but I did sneak out and made a bet on the Osunitas keyed #1 Wild Mia with 3,5,7 for the exacta and tri so did get some action wont go today but may try the sneak out to get ice and stop at the otb good luck to you today mh01 ps I see that Buffum is working at belmont may show up at saratoga huh 7-11-11 4f 48.13B
Annie More than 1 year ago
BTW, that Pick 5 was three As, 1 B and 1 C. Annie
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Van Savant baguette bread,horseradish cream sauce with mushrooms /wine reduction your killing me here I BBQrd 85% hamburgers for my guests with ranch beans and mackaroni salad I want to come to your saturday night cookouts ....I served cold sprite or coke. hope you enjoyed your dinner party after all friends and family are the main course for sure. mh01
Annie More than 1 year ago
I think Dan's out partying. Do you think Dan's out partying? Annie
Steve T More than 1 year ago
Dan, I have never heard what Garrett Gomez was talking about "dropped her head, she cut". What exactly does that mean? This is from the article on Dynamo and Sarah's Secret from today: The main rival for Sarah’s Secret is 1-for-3 Mizdirection, blocked the length of the lane last time in a turf sprint. “She was going to win,” Garrett Gomez said. “What I liked about is when I dropped her head, she cut. For a speed horse to do that, it showed quality.”
James Mc More than 1 year ago
A couple Saratoga forays for today: R5 ORDAINED (10-1 ML), has perked up since being switched to turf, shows blistering works for Lukas, looking for a wire job here under Nakatani. In R6 I'm looking for a similar trip for POLICE CHATTER (10-1 ML), who should improve on firm turf. Also have a feeling PRETTY BOY FREUD is live for a piece of this one at a fat price.
Steve T More than 1 year ago
There is something worth saying about the first two weeks at Del Mar - in chaos lies opportunity. SoCal has become a nightmare for handicappers because we go from the dirt at Santa Anita (which they keep screwing around with) to the Cushion at Hollywood, and then to Poly at Del Mar - kind of explains why all of the SoCal horseplayers have a bolt loose, doesn't it? Here's the deal with Del Mar - you won't have as many winners but they will pay big, sometimes real big. And it is more than just picking the winners, there are many out there who have stellar records that fall on their sword because of the Poly. Opening day, did you notice that I did not have Eye on Jacob to win? The reason is that A.P. Indy's can't stand the stuff and even a royally bred runner like him was going to suffer. A.P. Indy's are 19-0-1-2 at Del Mar. The PolyPed Sires scores I list are really important - they are kind of like the "hidden turf" sires, there are some bloodlines that run like they are world beaters on Poly and some that just won't. Akeela was one yesterday that we were all over, Kela, her sire is one of the best on Poly, she was 1/1 at Del Mar and she won and paid $31.00. There will be plenty more - and where you least expect them. Look at the maiden claimers for bombers, if you have a superior PolyPed and a trainer with good first start stats and good works and wade on in. With these new sires, look at their sires for clues, because the PolyPed thing is all about bloodlines - so a Street Sense debuter who is by superior PolyPed Street Cry is worth a long look; that was worth $34 on Thursday when I Sense Your Luck won in his debut.
Steve T More than 1 year ago
Average Joe, In a word, yes, it is absolutely worth it to buy the Formulator version. But take the time to play with all the knobs and buttons to see what it can really do. Look hard at the trainer stats; just like in SoCal there are trainers that are absolutely deadly at these boutique meets - look at Linda Rice's record in turf sprints. There is another data source I would look at buying, it is in the DRF Store - SARATOGA HANDICAPPER TRAINER DETAIL 2011 (29.95) which breaks out all of the trainer detail. Hope that helps. Captcha: logram impossible - an obvious reference to Del Mar...
Barbara More than 1 year ago
HG 243 I settled on Force of Nature, #1 as possibly the best closer and #2 as maybe the best early speed. (With Flashy Lassie out, better chance to win.) She may hold on better this time. Being close to the rail, will probably take lead at start. Trainer high percentages all categories and "has spotted them great this year" (comment, Brian Milligan). I settled on these two before checking the Wizard's picks (drf homepage). I can find something to like about all the other two year olds in the race, as well. HG 243 $20 exacta box 1,2 $5 tri 1,2/1,2/all Good luck, all, Barbara
Curt V. More than 1 year ago
HG 243 @the Bigger Spa, W/all the scratches it is imperative that I get this in NOW. #6> Gypsy Robin>only went off @6-1 in Group 2 race in Eng. Had the lead 1 Furlong out in a bog. That race was big. Romped in 1st asking on Plastic. I think she can run... #4>True Feelings>I watched the replay, as she toyed w/the field, after spotting lengths. Blew by the front runners & won going away. This horse is not shy, as she passed a lot of horses. Dam sire is Lord Avie, the Champion 2yr. old in 1980>>16/8-4-4. Retired at 3 due to injury. Of cHorse she has the Slewster on the dam side of the sire{latent Heat}>12/6-2-1...& a bullet 47.1 B. In real life I box it, {only 6 runners left...........}>> Butts: here it is::::>> $100 Exacta>#6/ over/ #4= $100 Total.............. #9 was only 6-1 in her initial race. & if she was that good, Pletcher would have told the world..
Ron B More than 1 year ago
HG 243 Not sure if my earlier went through so will try again $100 Tri 6/9/4 I think #6 will excelerate too fast for these in the middle of the race #9 to hold on for 2nd and # 4 too close too late I'm in Iowa spending some fishing time with my nephew this week but will go to Prairie Meadows Sat. Any selections will be greatly appreciated as I am a Southern Calif tracks person Thanks Ron B
Dick W More than 1 year ago
Please...for the sake of ten cent's sanity...if you have to revise your HG wager, restate the entire wager so that ten cent does not have to search back thru all posts for your original post to make substitutions, which I would hope he would refuse to do anyway and simply disqualify your revision. Thank you. Dick W
Ron B More than 1 year ago
HG 243 My top selection is #6 Gypsy May be just too fast for in the middle # 9 Georgia's Angel to hold on for 2nd and #4 for the fast close $100 Tri 6/9/4 Ron B Anyone, I'm in Iowa this week spending time fishing with my nephew. Going to go to Prarie Meadows Sat. Any selections woould be greatly appreciated. Never been there. I'm a Southern Calif track person Thanks Ron B
ccarson More than 1 year ago
HG Exacta 9 - 4 $70 Exacta 9 - 5 $30
Dave K. More than 1 year ago
HG Saratoga 9th $2 tri box 1 6 7 9 $48.00 $2 tri 1 6 9/ 1 6 9/ 1 2 6 7 9 $36.00 $8 exacta box 6 9 $16.00 #6 Gypsy Robin has three solid Aqu. works and split 14 horses in 6/15 race at Ascot and #9 Georgie's Angel has best last out beyer and should see them all from the outside post to the front. Happy to say that Canterbury is up and running after our political idiots finally came up with a plan to get people back to work again. They still can't understand that gambling is a voluntary tax and whether they like it or not, it will still take place so why won't they give us the racino? Since we get nothing from the Native American Casino's, at least let the state and horse racing industry benefit from the racino.
Ben More than 1 year ago
$100 to win on #1 Really like Eddie Kennaelly's work with 2 year olds, and this Scat Daddy filly should improve off her winning debut at Churchill Downs
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Uncle Steve I see you hit on some big cylinders today.. 6 of 8 races ? and a 31.40 winner! I had composed a post earlier, but lost it. So without going into the details..WTG!! You do know that myself and TBTA will be asking for your advice and suggestions (in addition to all the posts we did copy & paste) ...so sharpen your pencil, or better yet come to Del Mar? We can hope :) I had something unreadable in the capcha, so refreshed: 'eycest -200'
Rick More than 1 year ago
HG $100 Ex 2/4 2 has the class, and 4 picks up the pieces
thecerfer More than 1 year ago
HG243 #2 SCRATCHED MY PICK CHANGE TO $100 WIN ON #7
bochalls More than 1 year ago
HG Entry: Going with #4 True Feelings. We've had some scratches but a 3-way pace war is possible btw #'s 6-7-9. Dutrow's charge finished very nicely in winning her debut after a sluggish start. Two sharp works since; improvement coming today. $50 win #4 ($50) $10 Ex: 4-all ($50) Good luck today everyone!!
Steve T More than 1 year ago
Annie, "Yah, yah Steve"???? What the hell did I do?? If I wanted this kind of abuse I would actually talk to my wife.
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Steve T nice going on your picks at del mar friday I have it 7 winners listed out of 8 races with 4 exactas and a couple of tris all who followed your picks made money wtg steve you really have socal nailed down and thanks for your breakdown of the main track cant wait to see your picks for today mh01
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
Annie yes i saw your endearment comment anybody but VS and i would have posted 1 of my stupid jokes CurtV u need 2 ask VS that he's the 1 that mentioned the BOSS i hear the BOSS every now and then VQ
PropJoe More than 1 year ago
HG $35 EBX 5-7 $15 TRI 9/5,7/5,7 I like the pedigree of Alydarla, & it looks like Vukovar was a private purchase off the sharp polytrack score. Backing up with a tri key of the Pletcher horse, which looks fastest on paper.
SpartanTom More than 1 year ago
HG Scratches #2, Five Star Momma, #3 Dorothy's Aurora, and #8, Flashy Lassie. Since there will be only 6 horses racing, I am presuming there will be no superfecta. Apologies to Anthony Dutrow who trains the 4; it is his brother Richard who has a suspension looming. $5 Tri Key 9/1,4,6; $9 Tri PW 1,4,6/9/1,4,6; $2 Tri Key 4/1,6,9 $1 Tri PW 4,9/4,9/1,6 Good Luck to everyone. ST
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Uncle Steve ...I put Kalk Bay on my HW list a month ago after you mentioned her. I see she won today at Del Mar $13.80 winner, Hope you had her...Did I? No. I'm making a list and checking it twice! By the time I & TBTA get to Del Mar in August, I hope to have a few winners to look for :)
Alfredo More than 1 year ago
10c, There is a good chance I won the latest HandyG with $50 trifecta 9 / 1,4 /1,4 for a total of $1205 edging Jeffrey by a little more than one and a half hours. We made picks on 7/22; my first submission was at 10:35 am (this includes my write-up) then I revised after scratches at 3:30 pm. Jeffrey made his picks at 5:10 pm. I searched over the 7/20 Blog and nothing earlier so I am not 100% certain about this win.
Joe L> More than 1 year ago
After 46 weeks of relaxing and getting herself her pretty-up, the Grand Old Lady of Horseracing wakes up today....for the handi pick contest...she looked nothing like her age as I drove by her last night...she looks beautiful as always... $20 triple 2/9/1,6,7,5 $10 triple 9/2/1,6
thecerfer More than 1 year ago
HG243 $100 WIN #2 RF UPGRADE
Alfredo More than 1 year ago
HG 243 So many times in 2YO races it is horses running as fast and as hard as they hope to last and hit the wire first. The pace contenders here are not as plentiful as expected. #9 George's Angel, this looks like her race to lose. #1 Force de La Nature, rail is never good for 2YOs but this sharp horse won employing a wide run last out. Expecting Leparoux to hit the board. #2 Five Star Momma, tactical speed keeps her in the hunt. No surprises so isolating with a two combo trifecta in order to score big is the plan. That is the only way to be a player in this HandyG. This one of those contest where close does not mean squat so you better swing for the fences. $50 Trifecta 9 / 1,2 /1,2
hunter4fun More than 1 year ago
I want to amend my original bet to $40 exacta 8/2,9 $20 to win #4
JimPeregoy More than 1 year ago
HG: 243 I learned early in handicapping 101 that 2 year olds are formful. If you bet the one who has shown the most ability in an early race, he or she would repeat that form till the races got longer. Georgie's Angel is the likely favorite and may well project her 83 Beyer at 4.5f to 6f. Hard to win an HG event if your prime selection is favored. I like the way Force de La Nature made up ground on a less than perfect surface. Some of these will prove to be "Need the lead" types. Bullet works are a plus. The filly in the 2-hole has speed and will allow for the 1 to gain some space leaving the gate. However, from what I read of the past meet, there is no chance for any entrant from post 1. Flashy Lassie has similar attributes as the 1 for a trainer who appears to be a savant. Will use her as primary wager to take this heat. HG 243 wager: $40 exactas 8 over 1 and 9 = $80 $20 exacta 8 over 4
David M More than 1 year ago
I am making my first trip to Saratoga next weekend (Fri-Sun) as my friend has his mare scheduled to run in the Ruffian on Sunday. I was hoping some of the Blog's seasoned Saratoga goer's could offer a bit of advice either on line or off line. I plan on coming from NYC into SAR Friday and was wondering about your recommendations for parking/seating (Friday only), and evening dining. Any help you can offer is greatly appreciated!!
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
TurnBacktheAlarm "Y. Chop thong lang". ...I WILL NOT start the obvious Thong jokes, lol! Ned Daly Whew, glad to hear you got the Blue Boxers covered! I'd hate to see you as a Red Boxer :) BSB "The men who stare at horses ?" hahaha - is that your subtle take on 'The men who stare at goats' ? LOL! Congrats to those who hit in the HG race today.
Annie More than 1 year ago
DMR Pick 5 - Day 3: Four As and one C, $4800. Yes, Akeela was 8-1 in the morning line. The 9-5 horse was the A, the lower odds horses were Bs, which made Akeela at 8-1 a C. Not the dreaded D. :) Annie
TBTA More than 1 year ago
Steve T, At Del Mar today, on Candy's Girl, the jockey is listed as "Y. Chopthonglang". Have you ever heard of this jockey? I got a chuckle out of the name and all the Formblog jokes that could come out of it. Ned Daly, I took a look at your swim through the seven states. It looked like fun! However, what is up with those red boxers? Are you deserting us?
Ned Daly More than 1 year ago
TBTA I am sure I wore "Blue Boxers" as a bathing costume at at least one of the beaches. Hard to drive from New Jersey to Maine in a wet suit.
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Yogi "How 'bout the little guy. Let's hear it for Jackson Bend" I say YEAH!! ...followed by enthusiastic applause, and a couple whoop', whoop' fist pumps ! Congratuations to the connections.
Annie More than 1 year ago
Yogi, Yay! There's CAPTAIN BODGIT'S MKB horse from last year, Jackson Bend, winning a sprint race where he probably belonged all the time. It's sometimes just running them in the right place. Annie
Charlie A More than 1 year ago
HG 243 $8 Tri 8,9/7,8,9/1,4,7,8,9 = $96 $4 SPR 9/8/7/4 = $4
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
Annie, it would be interesting to know if the brain was working the problem like Chicago Gerry said it does and just adding in the info it had in a bank somewhere ? Even the really old info ? I'm not sure the "Dream Theory" wasn't in play for me on that one. "The men who stare at horses ?" I kind of think it might have been. I doubt if even LSD can get back 35 years to see if & when Danny V & Pat V have popped in that situation. Plus I don't want to make a lot of work for him even if he can unless its easier than I think ? 5 years would probably not be that good because Pat ain't been around. Chicago Gerry said the stuff he was reading said if you don't listen to the little man/woman that you regret it more than half the time. Supossedly the little man is better than a coin flip when choosing one thing over another but we don't listen to him often enough. He tells the Big Man what he doesn't want to hear a lot of times. LOL. Most of the time my little man keeps his mouth shut. Sometimes he won't shut up though. If you look at my analysis of the meet opener you can probably see a situation where the little man was saying quite a bit about that Zneaky Zuckers horse buttZ... the Big Man cut him out of the Pic-5. He just wouldn't listen. The little man revolted and wrote a paragraph about how sneaky the trainer could be yadayada ignore the ofers yadayada. This guy has frustrated me like this before yadayada. I wish the ofer guy wasn't in my race and so on . That was the little guy piping up. I just wouldn't listen to him. LOL.
Annie More than 1 year ago
BSB, Oh yes, that little man/woman in your head can often tell you things that you don't remember you know. :) Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
And look at that $76.00 horse at Saratoga. Pure Gossip was an 8-1 horse that didn't get bet. One C, and nobody got the Pick 6 if I'm reading the results right. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Oh, okay, that was three C's in that Pick 6. Pico Dinero and Jackson Bend would have been Cs as well. No wonder no one got it. That doesn't happen in So. Cal. That's why I play there. :) Annie
longwaytomay More than 1 year ago
Uncle Steve, Thanks for another great pick!! Kalk Bay in the 5th yesterday at Del Mar paid $13.80 for the win. You sure know how to pick em. I had to send everyone home after lunch yesterday. TOO HOT!! First time I ever had to do that. The weather this year has been crazy.
Van Savant More than 1 year ago
Uncle Steve; I too see some nice longshots today from Del Mar. I'm still keen on Kayce Ace, although I mis-read the PP's and there is no "Blinkers Off" angle at work there...nevertheless... I'm sticking with Races 5 through 8, and I'll try and post my thoughts later today, but I am off to a swim meet...
Mark More than 1 year ago
HG 243 Lots to like about the tony dutrow runner. $150 K for Latent Heat? and delivered big time. Continues to progress and the 6f plus field of speed should set up nicely. Will look to key on exactas & Tri with Kenneally runner who draws rail & Pletcher outside speed. $ 20 Tri 4 / 1,9 /1,9 $40 ex 4-9 $20 ex 4-1
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
HG recap Tencentcielo give me another -Zero- ... Georgie's Angel looked nice in her win, and my True Feelings was second best today. In general, did anyone think the horses look a bit ragged from the heat today? I hope all come out of the race ok.
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
Annie ,here is a redboard for you. Everybody knows I normally shun first timers especially at low odds buttZ... yesterday I wasn't that enthused with the 3 paper contenders and the board said A- Bomb. Looking at the bombers the little man in my head kept saying I've seen this movie from Danny ValasqueZ & Patrick more than once in the last 30 years.I decided to do what Chitown Gerry said," listen to the little man " Maybe it was just an old acid flashback, I'm not positive? LOL. Real or dream I was glad it worked out. LOL. Anonymous, I'm on both sides of the fence on this one. When I have 2 1/2 " hair and no beard or a 3/8th " beard I'm a fricking movie star or tuxedo model. When I have 12 " hair and a ZZTOP beard with a 12 " Yosemite Sam moustache, I still am better looking than the Dogman or Watchman LOL, buttZ... I do look like an old hippie & MY STRIKE RATE goes way way down !!! LOL. SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. Funny thing is that when short, people think I'm a cop, when long I'm a criminal . LOL. Either way I'm still the same stronach hole.LOL. Beats hell out of really really short skin colored hair though.LOL. No offense to any of you skin heads out there I'm just foolin' around. My Son had about 18 '' hair and my Mom was bugging him to get it cut last year. She put a bounty on it at $100 an inch one day and he grabbed her scissors and whacked off 14 inches in a flash. LOL. My Mom was wishing she wouldn't have spoken so boldly. LOL. He's got 18" hair again ! His girlfriend seems to like it. She's Jane Russel but with a pretty face so its workin' okay for him!! LOL.
fishky More than 1 year ago
Alydar finished 5th in his first start. Alydarla finished 5th in her first start. All similarities end.
Penn National Rick More than 1 year ago
HG Revised. Replace the 8 with the #6 Gypsy Robin. CAPTCHA: Gynecol ionessa Ha
SpartanTom More than 1 year ago
10c, I believe I had a $6 tri for 144.60; certainly not enough to win, congrats to all who cashed. ST
Steve T More than 1 year ago
DEL MAR – Pick 5 Race 1 – 1/4 Race 2 – 2/3/4 Race 3 – 3/4/5/7 Race 4 – 5 Race 5 – 1/6/8/9 Cost: $48.00
mike o More than 1 year ago
HG 243 with #3 scratched lets go with $100 Tri 1-9-4
aerialboundaries More than 1 year ago
HG $100 ex: 6-1 peace
Rick More than 1 year ago
HG Revised Again $100 TRI 6/9/7 Speed held up in prior race
Jeffrey More than 1 year ago
HG 243 #9 GEORGIE'S ANGEL was impressive when breaking her maiden. Will key her on top of trifectas over #1 FORCE DE LA NATURE and #4 TRUE FEELINGS who both looked good breaking their maidens as well. $50 Trifecta 9 with 1,4 with 1,4
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
HG shuly , I'll gamble. Wagers $5 tri 1 / 6,7,9 / all = $60 $ 10 ex 1 / 7,9 =$20 $8 ex 1 /6 =$8 $1 tri 6,7,9 /1 / all = $12 100 Dandy$ thanks LSD & tencent ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the numbers its 9-1 but maybe wesleys horse can soften up pletchers horse just a tad. When a baby runs a big debut number like 90 they often don't get the 2nd time improvement . Sometimes they go backward and still win. Sometimes they get just a little or stay the same . I'm hoping thats the case here. With all the scratches it forces the HG players toward the real contenders. Not so many throwaways to suck money. I think a lot of people are going to cash this HG.
Yogi More than 1 year ago
How 'bout the little guy. Let's hear it for Jackson Bend
Alan More than 1 year ago
Day One Saratoga and it's my first day handicapping in awhile. How am I doing? Don't ask... I just turned on TVG and see Mr B. on the screen. Wasn't he let go a few months ago? When did he come back? I'm out of the late P4 secondary to the 37/1 maiden winner in the first leg, so it's time instead for HandiGambling! HG THANK GOODNESS FOR SARATOGA! #1 Force de La Nature was not flattered by Bargain Blitz's 6th place finish in SAR5, but she won impressively last month at CD, is training well and picks up Leparoux, who won twice in a row earlier today. #4 True Feelings ships in from DEL for A Dutrow, has a nice female tail and should be closing just as most of these fillies tire in the 6th furlong. #7 Vukovar and #9 Georgie's Angel will be in the lead at the top of the stretch. One of them will hold on for 3rd. WAGER: $25TRI #1,4/1,4/7,9 $100 TOTAL
Curt V. More than 1 year ago
VQ, So when did Bruce Springsteen show himself on the blog ? Hehn ?... I'm taking a shot across the board on Hemazing Desting.....R8 @ the Spa..
crazyhorsemike More than 1 year ago
here come's ben ran a big race last year winning the forego and should be able to do it again caixa eletronica has two beyers over100 this year and you have to watch pletcher in these big races hg 243 50.00 ex box 6-9
Ron Zuercher More than 1 year ago
HG 243 Oops, I see it is almost post time! $50 ex 6-1 $20 ex 6-9 $15 ex 1-6 $15 ex 9-6
Annie More than 1 year ago
Yah yah, Steve. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
OK, the odds are finally up for Sat. at DMR, so in case anyone cares, this is how I divided them up for the Pick 5: Race 1: A: Kingsford Drive 2-1 Yankee Gone South 5-2 (Shipper eligible for the bonus money) Chinese Praise 3-1 B: Special Kid 9-2 Ribat 6-1 C: Palio Prince 12-1 Race 2: A: Achak 3-1 Quietly Mine 7-2 Matto Mondo 9-2 B: Winsome Charm 5-1 Cayambe 5-1 Waltzing With Blue 6-1 Future Covenant 6-1 (Shipper eligible for bonus money) Race 3: A: Basmati 5-2 Secret Circle 3-1 (This is a Baffert firster) Tummel 7-2 B: Soul Saver 8-1 Guidopanzini 8-1 Spit Ball 8-1 Good Mojo 8-1 D: Crimson Giant 20-1 1/1A Pee H Dee/Observance Race 4: A: Meter Me Gone 5-2 Dearly Concerned 3-1 Michailasheartlite 4-1 B: Judicious 5-1 One Bad Texter 6-1 C: Ckh Chk Boom 10-1 Congress Woman Ivy 12-1 D: Limerick Lane 15-1 Race 5: A: Turning Top 7-2 Andina 4-1 Lily Fa Pootz 9-2 B: Wild Mia 6-1 City to City 6-1 Ninth Infantry 6-1 C: Middle Club 10-1 D: Timezone 15-1 Kayce Ace 15-1 Miss Pleasant 20-1 All As and Bs are dangerous. You notice that there are an awful lot of them in this sequence. That is a consequence of the short fields. In large fields, there are a lot of Cs and Ds. Makes it a tough one. :) I would say that in Race 3, though, the As look like they really overshadow the Bs. Big discrepancy there. Now the real work begans. Which ones, which ones? LOL Good luck anyone who tackles it. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Did you notice? The top four finishers all had jockeys whose first names began with a J. Angle? LOL! Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Anonymous, Well, you know that Laura always wears a lovely frock and has her hair and makeup professionally done when hosting the Chat. And Van always wears a white tuxedo when serving his sumptuous feasts and fine wine at his dinner parties. So, naturally they might be a bit offended at Woodstock chic. :) Annie
gerry v. More than 1 year ago
Mike A Watch for this angle at Saratoga(from "Thoroughbred Cycles");when last years slop or mud winner gets a sloppy or muddy track this year. I always hope for rain upstate.
swede More than 1 year ago
HG243 REVISED PLAY A $4.00 SUPER KEY #1/#4#6#7#9=$96.00. ALSO A $2.00 EX BOX #1#9=$4.00 TOTAL $100.00. GOOD LUCK TO ALL SWEDE
Annie More than 1 year ago
Um, SWEDE, The Super has been cancelled. Annie
steve w More than 1 year ago
HG243 $25 tri 1 /4/6,9= $50 $25 tri 1 /6,9/4= $50 Best closer chasing 4 speeds makes for easy win for the 1. 6 an 9 appear to be the best speed. And the other closer shows improvment to either follow the 1 and finish 2nd or one of the speed horses does all the dirty work and holds the 4 at bay and he finshes 3rd.
Whackymacky More than 1 year ago
HG 243 Saratoga Race #9 Let's try to stay cool... Play the speed on the outside to set the pace with the closer to finish up second. #9 Georgie's Angel // #7 Vukovar // All $25 Trifecta Wheel #9 / #7 / all = $100 Good Luck!!! Whackymacky Out!!!
Molesap More than 1 year ago
HG Revision Going with the sped still. $100 EX 9/6
Steve T More than 1 year ago
DEL MAR – Friday (07-22-2011) Race 1 – Frisky Moment, Del Siete Leguas, Senor Rain DD: Langfurs Lightning Race 2 – Heleonor Rugny, Willa B Awesome, Roar Baby Roar DD: Evelyn Trouble Race 3 – Akeela, Veillit’, Warren’s Swap Fox DD: Too Pink Race 4 – Brown Is Beige, Lift Our Luck, Anniversary Girl DD: Warren’s Flyer Race 5 – Huntington Harbour, Kalk Bay, So Tempted DD: Duda Ten Race 6 – Low Gear Power, Warren’s Warehouse, Royal Import DD: Looking for Candy Race 7 – Cloud Man, Great Warrior, Every Ego DD: Aragorn Sword Race 8 – Silencio Gato, Incisive, My T Quick DD: Tempting Solution
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
VS i saw your post 2 the Boss this caught my eye Taverns and Cat-Houses i had something all typed out but then i remembered your happily married peace VQ
Annie More than 1 year ago
Virgin Queen, Yes, VQ, one must be careful. One may be chastised for even using a term of endearment in exuberant excitement. I can't even tell you what the devil was urging me to say in response. LOL Annie
Steve T More than 1 year ago
PolyPed Scores – DEL MAR – Friday (07-22-2011) Race 1 #1 FRISKY MOMENT (63) #2 PLENNY OF HENNY (N) #3 SENOR RAIN (N) #4 DEL SIETE LEGUAS (46) #5 LANGFURS LIGHTNING (50) #6 TRAWEEK (N) Race 2 #1 GOGI (44) #2 WILLA B AWESOME (N) #3 HELEONOR RUGBY (63) #4 ROAR BABY ROAR (35) #5 EVELYN TROUBLE (63) Race 3 #1 MISS ANIME (40) #2 MORNING FROST (50) #3 AKEELA (100) #4 TOO PINK (75) #5 WARREN’S SWAP FOX (67) #6 CAPALATTE (45) #7 VEILLIT’ (41) #8 BALLERINA ANGEL (43) #9 ANGEL OF MYSTERY (33) Race 5 #1 DUDA TEN (57) #2 VIRGINIA WAY (0*) #3 MAMA JANKA (45) #4 CANDYS GIRL (N) #5 STARY LIGHT (49) #6 HUNTINGTON HARBOR (50) #7 LADY’S TASTE (0*) #8 KALK BAY (38) #9 SO TEMPTED (52) Race 6 #1 SARAVAS WILD AGAIN (0*) #2 LOOKING FOR CANDY (80) #3 STRAIGHTOMIDNIGHT (13) #4 CAPTURE THE CALL (22) #5 LUV DRAGON (40) #6 SIR BELL (39) #7 JUST HEAT (53) #8 LOW GEAR POWER (167) #9 ROYAL IMPORT (27) #10 WARREN’S WAREHOUSE (67) AE DONTMESROUNDWITJIM (54) Race 8 #1 LINK SUANCES (0) #2 JOHARDY (0) #3 PAPASON (39) #4 JAKEY BOY (30) #5 RAMBO NATION (40) #6 MY T QUICK (62) #7 PERSONALITARY (0) #8 INCISIVE (33) #9 TEMPTING SOLUTION (71) #10 CHI CHA CHA (50) #11 SILENCIO GATO (49) #12 SUPERTEN (33)
Alfredo More than 1 year ago
revised HG 243 ugh :( scratches revised HG wager $50 trifecta 9 /1,4 / 1,4
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
" back in the darkages before email,texting,aim chatting etc...i was given a book called ( charlette fords book of MODERN MANNERS ) as a WEDDING SHOWER GIFT. it was FROM MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, so what does that tell you. on the day YOU were born the nurses all gathered round and they gazed in wide wonder at the joy they had found the head nurse spoke up said "leave this ONE alone" she could tell right away that YOU were bad to the BONE bad to the bone bad to the bone b-b-b-b-bad b-b-b-b-bad b-b-b-b-bad bad to the bone
Turnbackthealarm More than 1 year ago
VQ, Talk about bbbbbb-bad to the bone.............should we ever meet in person, I will tell you the story of the night I sang "Wang Dang Doodle" with Koko Taylor at Buster Poindexter's bar in Manhattan. David Johansen and George Thoroughgood were in the house. Being in your 20's is a wonderful thing, if you can remember it...............We still call those nights "ARI's". Short for alcohol related incidents. BSB, I want to see the pictures of you in a tux. Hip Hip Horay for the Vicstu crush horse, Jackson Bend. That little guy did great today.
Vermonster More than 1 year ago
HG 243 $15 Tri 4 / 1,5,7 / 1,5,7 $10 Ex 4-1 Rose made the trip for a reason. Pace should be quick, setting it up for those who have shown some closing ability. Good luck to all.
tencentcielo More than 1 year ago
HG Looked hard at the Saratoga card and decided that I would only play the last (I really like #10 in that race), but since it is Dan's money, I'm going to take a shot. $50 trifecta 1 / 4,9 / 4,9 I don't like the Ward filly at all, and the Dutrow entrant looks to have a nice upside. Using the other two favorites in the other two trifecta spots, as they should be tough in here.
Charlie A More than 1 year ago
HG 243 Typo in previous post. Should be: $8 Tri 1,9/1,7,9/1,4,6,7,9 = $96 $4 SPR 9/1/7/4 = $4
Mr. Chubby More than 1 year ago
HG 243 $50 ex. 4-1 $20 ex. 4-5 $10 Tri 1/4/5,6,9 I really like how the #4 came on late in her debut, and that ability to come from off the pace will benefit her as there still looks to be plenty of speed in here. The light buyer in the debut can help keep her price fair, as Tony Dutrow runners normally take a hit at the windows. LIke the firster as a longshot option underneath. Good luck all!!!
Charlie A More than 1 year ago
HG 243 Since the 2,3, and 8 scratched, revised picks are: $8 Tri 1,8/1,7,9/1,4,6,7,9 = $96 $4 SPR 9/1/7/4 = $4
Cameron More than 1 year ago
5$ EXB 1,4,8 30$ 5$ TRIB 1,4,8 30$ 40$ to WIN on 5 100$ Force de la Nature showed a lot in her first race out. I like two year olds that close down and win a race late, add that to a solid two year old trainer, two good recent works, and Learoux aboard and this horse has all the makings of a winner. True Feelings I really like the recent works out of Delaware, and the horse sold for 150,000$ so their is a lot of potential (hopefully!). Flashy Lassie, Desormeaux gets the nod again on Lassie, after riding her to a win in the G3 Debutant. Third career start, out of Flashy Bull. Alydarla, I like the fact that she has been working at Saratoga, and is a february foal. The only first time starter in the race, but none of the beyers posted thus far by her competitors are out of reach.
Anderson More than 1 year ago
HG revision (scratches!) $16 tri wheel 6/4,5,9/4,5,9
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Dan ...They are unchaining you from your desk, and letting you out in the sunshine? YEAH! Have a fun and safe trip. As Van Savant has mentioned, we'll hold down the Formblog Fort. 'ldellia lagopus'
TurfRuler More than 1 year ago
HG Selections for todays race at Saratoga (7th Race) Friday 7/22/11. $5.50 trifecta 8 // 9 // 1-4-7 = $16.50 $5.50 trifecta 1-4-7 // 8 // 9 = $16.50 $5.50 trifecta 9 // 1-4-7 // 8 = $16.50 $5.50 trifecta 8 // 1-4-7 // 9 = $16.50 $5.50 trifecta 9 // 8 // 1-4-7 = $16.50 $5.50 trifecta 1-4-7 // 9 // 8 = $16.50 Total $99
Lindsay More than 1 year ago
HG 243 $100 Win on #1 Force De La Nature. No reasons. This is a hatpin stick for fun. OK, I can find something positive about each horse in the race, so the positive things about #1 are the trainer/jockey combo win at 43%, the filly posted a bullelt 4f work on 7/9 (best of 36), there is a lot of speed remaining even after scratches which should suit her come from behind style, her speed is competitive, and her odds should be fair to good. Best of luck to all!
Molesap More than 1 year ago
HG 243 - Saratoga Going with the speed. Looks like Georgie’s Angel will improve off her debut and will be tough given her connections. Five Star Momma just failed to last in her previous may have a similar fate here. $100 EX 9/2
Rick More than 1 year ago
HG Revised $100 EX 1/4 Looks like the 2 was scratched. Going with the closers in race which has lots of speed and they're all going longer than their last.
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Rick the1-4 exacta is taken at 12:47 $100
Ronald H More than 1 year ago
HG #3 Dorothy's Aurora......Gets a better post #4 True Feelings...........Runs down the speed $100 Exacta....4-3 GL
Barbara P. More than 1 year ago
HG 243 Revised With the Scratches of 2, 3 & 8, I'll bet Force de La Nature, #1 to win. $100 win #1 There's plenty of early speed, which will come from Georgie's Angel, #9, Gypsy Robin, #6, Vukovar #7, maybe also # 5 Alydaria...I hope Eddie Keanneally's charge mows them all down....to make it two for two. I like Brian Milligan's DRF commentary " this miss was professional in the score like she has been doing this all her life...." Someone commented about 2-year-olds running as fast as they can as far as they can, for as long as they can, but I'm thinking that 'Nature will relax early and have the best speed in the stretch, where it counts. Best of luck to all, Barbara
asadvertised More than 1 year ago
Revised picks due to scratches. HG 243 $40 win on 5 (good works, sire and odds) $5 exacta box 1,7,9 $5 trifecta box 1,7,9 Thanks!
lefthander32 More than 1 year ago
Hg--- $50 ex---- 4 with 6/9... lefty
Ronald H Bauer More than 1 year ago
HG--- Not much time but here goes... $100 Tri------------6/9/4
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Ron Zuercher RE: your take on ALONSO QUINONEZ who rode Meltarib. ...It made me think I heard his name in reference to "I'm allegic to Green"' somewhere, and I dug up this nugget. -------------------------- July 14, 2011 08:53 PM Posted by Steve T Meathead, Hope you had something that was still live in the 8th. I made my only bet of the day on Star Spangled Heat, unfortunately ridden by Alonso "I'm Allergic to Green" Quinonez. Can't carp about an $11.60 show but I really thought this full brother to Bel Air Sizzle would actually win, silly me. The worst part is that there will be no more 41/1 odds on him and now everyone will be on to his liking turf. -------------------------- ...maybe Quinonez will have learned from his Hollywood Park turf rides, and bring something to Del Mar? Good Luck with Meltarib next out.
Theo More than 1 year ago
I liked the 2 and 3, but scratched Oh well $8 superfecta 1,9 / 1,9 / 4,6,7 /4,6,7 Good luck
keith More than 1 year ago
With Scratches in Tow, Final Revised HG $8 Tri 6/1,4,9/1,4,5,7,9 $4 ex 6/9
Randy More than 1 year ago
I'll play this baby race with no room for error. $100 straight exacta #6 Gypsy Robin over #8 Flashy Lassie.
Jerry More than 1 year ago
hg 243 100 ex 7,1
Randy More than 1 year ago
I'll play this baby race with no room for error. $100 straight exacta #6 Gypsy Robin over #8 Flashy Lassie.
Annie More than 1 year ago
RANDY, ERROR, ERROR, ERROR! Annie
Ronald H More than 1 year ago
HG.....Revised per scratch $100. Exacta 4-2 GL
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
Van Savant , Nice pickin' . I can definitely see Annie putting $120 bucks into the pic-5 . Me thinks you are more the lemon roasted chicken type like myself no ? P. Ensign , He did look good didn't he. I can never really tell because most of them look good to me. LOL. He ran good enough for my purposes. Maybe on another day when I can catch a coin flip or two in the sequence I might try another small pic-5 ticket . Like I've said before N2Ls & sometimes N3Ls are up my alley. I can usually get myself pretty confident that my pick may be 1st or 2nd in those. Uncle Steve and DR Derango had it with a $512 ticket. Dr.D was hot today.
SpartanTom More than 1 year ago
Formbloggers, there is the chance that Saratoga may cancel Friday's card due to the excessive heat (it was originally forecassted to be 100 with a 110 heat index in Michigan today, but has been lowered to 97 and 107HI). I would like to congratulate Wacky on his fine handicapping and wagering last week, and I am looking forward to tomorrow's race. If Friday racing is cancelled, I would hope that Wacky would get to pick next week's race. My HG wager will be as follows: $5 Tri Key: 8/2,4,9; $5 Tri PW: 2,4,9/8/2,4,9; $3 Sup Key: 8/2,4,9; $3 Sup PW: 2,4,9/8/2,4,9,/2,4,9; $4 Ex 8/9. The 8 is the only horse who has won 2 races and has one of my favorite riders, Kent D. I have always liked Five Star Day progeny in sprints and with Nureyev as the grandsire on the dam side, this one may have a future sprinting on turf also. I am taking a stab with the 4 figuring Dutrow horses will have to run well now with a probable lengthy suspension looming. The 9 has done nothing wrong, and I expect it to be the post time fav, but I always like to beat those horses. I have eliminated the obvious 1 and 6; the 1 due to post position, and the 6 due to returning from GB, and even though she ran well, may need more time to recover. Good luck to everyone. Steve T, Thank you for your comments and stats on Del Mar. You posted recently about not betting maiden winners back on the dirt, but that you did not feel that axiom necessarily applied to the turf. I am looking at the 6th at DMR and wondering what you think about the 10 Butterfly Beach? I realize that the post is problematical, but I would appreciate your thoughts on the race. ST
Dick W More than 1 year ago
HG243 - Saratoga R9 I will use #6 Gypsy Robin as my key. She simply looks to me like she might be the fastest. And Ward usually does a good job with the babies. I will use her with #8 Flashy Lassie who has shown some versatility in her first 2 outings and #9 Georgie's Angel who looked good winning her only start. So the wager will be: $40 ex 6,8 $30 ex 6,9 $15 ex 8,6 $15 ex 9,6 Good luck to all ! Dick W
keith More than 1 year ago
HG Revised $52 Ex 6/9 $4 Tri 4,6/1,4,6/1,2,4,6,9
Dan Illman More than 1 year ago
Hey guys, I'm going to be on the road for the next few days and won't be able to post the HG analysis and selections. You can watch the drf.com video analysis for the Schuylerville with myself and Mike Beer at the following link. http://www.drf.com/events/saratoga-schuylerville-stakes Video stakes analyses for some of the major stakes races across the country will be available tomorrow afternoon. Enjoy the weekend. Dan CAPTCHA - isagessi Autocracy
Van Savant More than 1 year ago
Boss; Thanks for everything, and don't worry about us. We'll manage to hold down the fort while you are away. Uncle Steve has riflemen posted throughout town, and Uncle Mike is watching the taverns and cat-houses...wait a minute...I think I have that backwards... Travel safely and Win big. Me thinks the good people here are going to be in for a BIG winning weekend...
Annie More than 1 year ago
OK, day two of DMR's Pick 5 looks like three As, 1 B and 1C. That firster was 12-1 in the morning line, making him a C, although he went off at 16-1. When the C horses do pop up it often is in a race with first-time starters as they are hard to assign odds to. I see Chantal is bringing them home in her first season at DMR! Go Blue Thong!!! Annie
Ned Daly More than 1 year ago
HandiSaratoga No real feel for these babies. Five Star Momma looks to have class and the distance. WAGER $100 WIN #2 Good luck to all on Opening Day.
Annie More than 1 year ago
HG 243: With the scratch of number 2, FIVE STAR MOMMA, I'll need to change my bet. FLASHY LASSIE and DOROTHY'S AURORA are also scratched. REVISION: $8 Super: 1,6,9/1,6,9/1,6,9/4,7 = $96 $4 Win #9 Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
HG 243: REVISION 2 Equibase scratch line has politely informed me that due to the three scratches, there is now NO Superfecta. $100 trifecta: 9/6/1 Annie
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
HG 243 #1 Force de La Nature fine effort last race was four wide and still gained and moved away down the lane if she saves ground early will explode in the stretch and get up Kenneally batting 14% gr. stakes last two works have her tight #6 Gypsy Robin a speed type that just keeps on going but last effort showed a weakening down the lane trainer is 37% TTD and filly working very good since last race will set a very fast pace for this and if you can catch her you win #7 Vukovar another speed type who seems to have something left in late stages will push GR around the track and like cohen up where trainer is 33% with him in the irons stats otherwise are weak with a 12% gr. stakes figure one good work for this race seems fit and ready #9 Georgies Angel blew em out at CD and recieved a big beyer for that effort had a work 12 days after that race so think it took much out of her and that work was so so trainer is 29% WLS and 24% gr. stakes will be part of the speed brigade today the one to beat $100 exacta 1-4 good luck all mh01
Annie More than 1 year ago
HG 243: Well, I guess they're going to run, so I'd better get something in. Since it's hard to tell which of these young ladies will make the best improvement, I'm going to take the three I like best and key them in the top three spots of the Super, and put the next two in the fourth spot. $8 Super: 1,6,9/1,6,9/1,6,9/2,4 = $96 $4 Win #9 Annie
Steve T More than 1 year ago
Dan, Is there any chance you could ask the database boys to run a query on any SoCal runner with the "waiver claiming" tag - specifically the run under the "-W" and the run right after. I am seeing a ton of these coming through and there just might be something there.
Patrick S More than 1 year ago
Del Mar played to stalkers/closers till late in the day, where speed seemed to hold on the main track. On the turf course, looks like you don't want frontrunners for the time being. Quick and dirty selections ("A" horse before/"B" horse after) for P-5/P-4 plays: R1: 2-6-5/3-4 R2: 5/1-3 R3: 8-6/2-3-7 R4: 3-4-5/6-9 R5: 6-3-9/4-1 R6: 2-5-3/10-1-9-8 R7: 1A-3-5-2/6-1-4 R8: 9-1-5-3/8-7-2 Looking at the following double digit ML's closely: R1: 5-Debbie's Striker (surprising J/T combo, should take to poly) R3: 8-Navy Seal Six (trainer 28% 2nd start, lost last start very late and should improve off that effort) R6: 3-Melbisha (not too familiar with the jockey, has some closing kick, which did well yesterday) R8: 3-Laser Luv (should take to poly, like all of the 5/6f works) 1-Hollywood Affair (PVal with speed, most experienced of this group, although that could be bad as well)
Perl More than 1 year ago
Hi Dan, Has Andy Beyer and his associates decided that it's no longer possible for a horse to get a 120 Beyer? Blind Luck and Havre De Grace finish 18 lengths clear of the third place horse and go 10 panels in 2:01.28. Based on the other races in the card, this was a huge figure. Yet they get a 106. On Belmont day, Trappe Shot got a perfect trip and ran a hole in the wind, a sub 109 6f, on a day when times were quite slow. And he gets a 112 Beyer? I don't believe these figures at all.
PGM More than 1 year ago
ST and KNM, Illinois does offer the place pick 9 (which is essentially a place pick all, if the card has only nine races), but it's nowhere as popular as in California.
knm More than 1 year ago
Spartan Tom and PGM, Thanks for the information on the Illinois bet. It really does sound like fun, but the powers-that-be in American racing will not allow that bet here. We can't make .10 bets, or .50 ones, either. WO has .20 supers and pick 4s, but only for their own cards. I think we can now do a Magna pick five, if that's still going on.
asadvertised More than 1 year ago
HG Taking a shot on #5 based on workouts, sire and odds: $40 win on 5 $4 tri 9,1,7 $4 tri 9,1,8 $4 tri 9,1,2 $4 tri box 7,8,9 $4 ex box 7,8,9 Thanks Dan
Nittanylyinaround More than 1 year ago
Dan, I couldn't find another way to contact you re: your change of format for Spa Babies, so allow me to do so here. I am part of a group that has rented the same house in Saratoga for 20+ years during the race meet. Your Spa Babies column has been an integral part of our morning ritual. We not only print it out for referral throughout the day, but generally sit around the backyard and discuss various aspects of that day's two-year old races. What makes this the greatest game on earth is that there are a MILLION ways to approach it. The stats you've provided in Spa Babies have been invaluable. That said, we each use them as we see fit, just like the regular past performances. This is no slur on your handicapping efforts, which we all sometimes take note of and also use as we see fit, but I have come to depend on seeing ALL the stats for ALL of the horses. I, for instance, place greater emphasis on the dam side. I like to see the number of foals dropped, the number that made it to the races, their first-time and overall records, turf and dirt, etc. So, besides imploring you to still provide all these stats, but expecting a negative reply, my question is whether there is a spot where all this information is readily available. I heard mention of a breeding site that provided some of, but not all, the stats I've mentioned. Can you be of assistance? And THANK YOU for your devotion to this aspect of racing. It has been truly most valuable. Roger Sager
Laura More than 1 year ago
Please note that Flashy Lassie will be scratched from the Schulyerville. Her trainer doesn't want to van her to NY from CD in the heat conditions. Laura
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Van Savant you must have done very well at del mar wednesday you had all the winners of the P5 in your picks I know you know that but you and bsb had them all and your ticket would have been less than his was $216 to take down $14,288 great picks vs hope you had some of that money my day was not near as good as yours was but I did expect a lot of prices to go up thats always the case at del mar will not play today probably will play saturday for sure picks later congrats to you VS nice job of handicapping mh01
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
blackseabass yesterday at del mar I felt like it was my first day betting horses in my picks I had three winners listed it was brutal to say the least for me BUT you sir are another story you gave out your P5 and you not only had all the five winners you also had two exactas one paying out at $181 and the tri at $233 the other $38 ex. $41 tri you had three winners over $15 and your exacta in the R6 paid $402 WOW what a day you had my hats off to you sir and am bowing at the waist. your P5 would have cost $750 for all you had listed and it paid $14,267 mike a take note this guy can pick horses also thanks again for your opinion and picks at del mar PS what you got for today? good luck today mh01
derbyfritz More than 1 year ago
HG 243 as follows.... $8 tri key... # 6 over 1,2,7,9/1,2,7,9 =$ 96 $4 win # 3 4 seems that the key horse is a bargin basement wonder.... good luck to all....
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Dan Yours and Mike Beers video on The Schuylerville was terrific, informative as always, and the both of you guys look great. Good Luck! 'rawpole candidate' .....no comment.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
SR Vegas posted: "Dan Yours and Mike Beers video on The Schuylerville was terrific, informative as always, and the both of you guys look great." Yes, they do. But can they run and make the distance?
J Cal More than 1 year ago
hg 243: 9-Georgies Angel-Drew off vs large field, looks like he'll get stronger with the stretchout. 1-For de La nature-Should be making move into the stretch; solid drills. 6-Gypsy Robin-Destroyed field of 11 at Kee. in very fast time; will she be able to hold on? THE BET: $70 EX 9-1 ($70) $15 TRI 9/1,6/1,6 ($30)
swede More than 1 year ago
HG:243. WOULD LIKE TO PLAY A $4.00 SUPER KEY . KEY #1/#2#4#6#9=$96.00 ALSO A $2.00 EX BOX #1#9=$4.00 TOTAL $100.00. THESE CAPTCHA ARE THE MOST DUMB THINGS I EVER SEEN PLEASE MAKE THEM SO YOU CAN MAKE SINSE OF THEM. THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK TO ALL. NOW IF I CAN MAKE SINSE OF THE DUMB CAPTCHA.
David M More than 1 year ago
Still a HG maiden without cashing in five starts. I am starting to look like the dreaded professional maiden everyone. 1) Force La Nature - like fact she took dirt and closed in debut. Visually impressive down lane but not sure at this point what was behind her. Rail is negative so Julian better be part escape artist. Good recent breezes in advance of this spot. 5-1 ML seems to offer some value. 2) Five Star Momma - won speed battle but lost the war holding well after being part of wicked early split. Not sure if she clears Gypsy's Robin here but hand is forced with inside draw. Nice purchase for $11,000 by Dickey. Love to see modest yearling purchases outrun expectations. 3)Dorothy's Aurora - for those who forecast an above par pace scenario this is an exotics value option. Always a bit concerning when maidens tackle winners in stakes but on the plus side the filly is in good hands. More likely for smaller slice and only if we see 44 and change half. 4)True Feelings - feeling this one is better than the Beyer folks gave her credit for. Another one who rated kindly and finished. Sold for 17 times stud fee so at least she must look like race horse. 32% win rate for Dutrow gets one's attention. 12-1 ML grabs my eye with high percentage trainer. You don't have to right often at 12-1 to keep bankroll intact. 5) Alydara - I don't back maidens debuting in stakes at major venues from low win connections at any odds. Hopefully she scratches, goes in realisitic spot, enjoys her first tatste of racing and goes on to a productive career. 6) Gypsy Robin - world traveler crushed at KEE as word was out. Wesley Ward in April sprints with 2 year olds is usually a good play assuming you can stomach the low odds. Each successive month after April with Ward, his horses are less likely to dominate as others rotate in and start to catch up. This one appears to be a player near/on lead. May last for big piece if SAR is kind to speed types. Taking stand against at low odds and likely pace pressure. 7) Vukovar - Never seem to cash on Mr. Southern Equine. If I like Guillot, he bombs. If I don't like he scores at price. Another speedy type with sprint breeding top & bottom. Anybody have Sarge Nick Hines on speed dial - I obviously need an inside connection. I do respect PRX shippers. Will try and beat and wait for this one on grass at 5F race somewhere down the road. 8) Flashy Lassie - was good to me in last capitalizing on quick early pace. Sire seems to be doing some decent work with babies considering low stud fee. I saw an earlier post mentioning a possible scratch. If she goes you have to consider due to quite a bit of speed being present in this group. Picks up 5 pounds if that has meaning to anyone at 6F. Never been big morning worker but last work seems slow in advance of stakes spot. Don't know if she was asked for anything on 7/16/11. 9) Georgie's Angel - ran slower than par first quarter then ran almost identical split to half in quick 45 1/5. Overall journey got high rating. Don't expect unpressured scenario here but is well drawn allowing jock to assess early heat and react accodingly. If you believe in Andy B's crew and their pencils, she is one to beat. Hard for me to take as favorite (if betting real money) given she is facing winners and may need change in tactics to win. Hoping for contested pace (21.80/44.90) with Momma, Robin, and possibly Vukovar going at it. Georgie will sit 4th(if rateable) in garden spot. See Force De Nature and True Feelings engaging down lane in last furlong and half. Exacta Wheel $10 - 4-1-9 over 4-1-9-2 $10 W #4 Good luck to all!
SpartanTom More than 1 year ago
knm, I believe Illinois tracks offer the same bet. You must pick a horse or horses in each race and one has to either win or place in the race. If you happen to hit the exacta with your picks you win with both horses. I mention this as I once it four exactas in place pick 9 and even though the bet only paid $86, I had 8 winning tickets. Depending on the number of races; it could be a pick 8,pick 9, or pick 10. If there are more than 10 races carded, it is always on the first 10 races. It is a fun bet, but my worst experience is I handicapped a P8 and missed an early race being eliminated, but did not play the ensuing P6 which naturally I would have had with a $32 wager. Stupid me. ST
Dick W More than 1 year ago
HG243 - revised due to scratch of #8 I will just substitute #7 for #8... $40 ex 6,7 $30 ex 6,9 $15 ex 7,6 $15 ex 9,6 Dick W
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Van Savant KAYCE ACE is a Full Sister to Colonel John and Mr Hot Stuff. Colonel John won his only turf race, the Del Mar Wicker Handicap. & Mr Hot stuff was 3rd in his only turf race also at Del Mar . Not too shabby 'siblings' 1st turf experiances. I'll be watching her. Good Luck.
Van Savant More than 1 year ago
Sharon; Awesome. Thank you for that bit of information. The race is a toughie, but I hope to make sense of it when I come back to it.
Mike A More than 1 year ago
Saratoga Tid bit #86.......If you find yourself looking at a turf race and can't seem to find anyone who qualifies as liking the track (either course).......there is a very good fall back angle......Horses who show an affinity for the turf course at Aqueduct seem to prefer Saratoga's turf courses....so fear not....there are price horses in them thar hills.......Saratoga's first should start it off, after a quick rundown I'm looking at these 4, perhaps keying on my old friend Mr. Hooker w/.....Adam Rides Again, Warrior Up, The Noz.....After giving out Mr. Hooker last year and having him run second twice at 52-1, once beating me by a head for the cold 900.00 exacta......a race the the Noz was also in (dead heated for 3rd with my key horse Barrel Of Love) I figure he waited all year to pay me back.......and he will.....Mike A
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
David M "Still a HG maiden without cashing in five starts." 0 for 5 ? ..I got a good chuckle out of that. I'm sure (myself included) there are those who have longer 'non cashing' streaks :) Have fun with it, and I'm sure you will cash in. Good luck! 10 cent I'm glad you don't link the spreadsheets anymore. I'm sure all my 'zeros' line up quite nicely .HA!
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
Van Savant , I posted some stuff to meathead 01 about N2Ls . I read your Blech ! LOL. I see that you do know thyself considering your picks in those two. LOL. I know you are good but I want you to rub your hands together like a fly before you blech the next time you see N2L. Seriously VS read what I told Meathead it'll make you like those kind a lot better. Its too simple to ignore. You'll be making money in those kind all the time. I predict it !!! Blackseakreskin has spoken.LOL. You know I always say I'm good N2L . You know I wouldn't say that if I didn't think I could run 1st or 2nd most anytime a N2L gets mentioned around here. Simplify your trash removal system for this condition and see if your results improve .
leo More than 1 year ago
HG i like the filly who has traveled to England, the experience should do her wonders. She came back and has been training well. To fill out my ticket i am going with the first time starter who has been training well at the Spa and with the hot weather should be acclaimated to the area. Hg 100 ex 6/5
Ron Zuercher More than 1 year ago
Del Mar 6th Just a few minutes to post so if anyone thinks I know what I'm doing they can't be steered wrong. Meltarib looks ready to run and likes turf better than poly. In the money. Tribal Beauty had trouble in last and two good works after short layoff. Laura Beasley fits with state bred. Rebecca is improving though distance is a question. Butterfly Beach will have some company on the front end and may be 3 wide on the first turn. Not a lock.
Laura More than 1 year ago
I took a look at the Watchmaker/Crist video. Both are overdue for a visit with their barber/stylist. I kept watching Crist's medusa like locks to take on a life of their own (maybe that's why they're bound) and Watchmaker appears to be caught mid-transformation into the Shaggy Dog. Who dresses these people? K-Mart? Both look fresh off their panhandling gig in the subway, and I'm not talking the sandwich shop. Someone needs to pull those two (kicking and screaming) out of their very aged hippie era if they're going to be in front of the camera...or stick them back behind (under) their desks. Dan and Mike are decent loking fairly well groomed guys and are more professional in front of the camera. Laura CAPTCHA: HMO Orsests - I'm in perfect health, that HMO better keep its hands off my orsests!
Van Savant More than 1 year ago
Laura; In all of the years we have been posting here, I don't think I have ever disagreed with something you posted. Today is no exception. Nice stuff.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Laura and Van Savant, I'm not sure why this sticks in my craw so much, but it does. Usually, I just let things slide. I have waited 30 years to grow my hair like Steve Crist. I am envious. My hair length is getting close to his and will eventually surpass his. My beard does look better than his moustache though. What difference does it make? We're all here for the horses, right? My invitations to your houses are apparently on hold as I must look like someone from that other political party and that I need a bath. I wear pareus, sarongs and lap-laps. I have worn a skirt out to a public restaurant. I am very comfortable with myself and very happily married. (to a woman) Van Savant: Believe it or not, I am taller than you are. I am not looking to pick a fight or even open a discussion, but you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover. Bo Diddley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYUVpJjIeSk Or, The Temptations: Beauty is only skin deep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh5vben2Z0U&feature=related Laura: The work you have done with http://www.ironmaidensthoroughbreds.com/ has been stellar and I hope you continue to allow me to check in as often as I have in the past. Both of your opinions on the hores are well regarded in my house. Best of luck and we'll be seeing you down the road somewhere.
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
Meathead01, yes there was another N2L it was the sixth . I ran 2nd that one as well but thats not the point. The point is there were 6 horses that broke mdn vs spwt . 2 0f them had already failed multiple times at or below this level (as the favorite or 2nd choice) They went off 1-2 again and failed again. The other 4 Mdn SpWt that didn't try this level yet ran 1-2-3-last at 18-1 , 7-1 , 18-1 & 9-1. The ones that broke for 32000 or 25000 or20000 were up the track where they should be when all is right in the universe. I'm ashamed to say I only got a $7 placer out of it now that I looked back. My 3rd choice scratched and instead of looking back I just boxed 1-11 and bet 11 WP & I bet Chantel and Belvoir earlier when I thought they looked better and here she comes now @18-1.That ticked me off a little. LOL. It works that way more than you might guess. The other N2L was softer than this one. Anyway these two races were good examples of how the public blows this condition. the top 4 public choices could only manage 1 4th between them. In this condition the pools can get whacked because most people don't know not to bet a guy thats not cut in half. Its old school but it works. If you approach these kind that way you're going to run 1st or 2nd a lot. That I'm sure of. And you're gonna draw lines through guys like Battle School with impunity as well.
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
blackseabass thanks for the insight on nw2L info we can all use for sure mh01
gil More than 1 year ago
Hg 243. revised. Same reasoning as before. $100 win #7. good luck all.
Afleet 72 More than 1 year ago
HG243 Will key #9 on top. Hard to bet against Pletcher and this one seems to be the fastest. If #9 gets loose on the front end the other chasers could fold, setting up the tri for a few closers. $10 Tri 9/1/2,3,4,6,7 = $50 $5 Tri 9/2,3,4,6,7/1 = $25 $25 Tri 9-1-3 = $25 What is amazing is that not one of these has run in a race in NY. What has happened to 2YO racing in NY?
Patrick S More than 1 year ago
HG SCHUYLERVILL STAKES I only really like two in here, the 4-True Feelings and 9-Georgie's Angel. True Feelings closed to win her debut impressively (think Beyer was a little too low). Followed the win up with a bullet work which indicates she won it handily. Georgie's Angel seems best bred to go from 4 1/2 to 6 furlongs. Add to that Pletcher/Velazquez and I like her chances. $50 EXBOX (4,9) GL ALL!!
dale tillotson More than 1 year ago
HG 243. I will not commit to this bet with my own money now but with Dan's money here are my hg 243 bets. $50.00 win #9. $2.00 exacta box 9-8-1. $2.00 trifecta box 9-8-1. $26.00 show #8. See you at the rail on opening day at the SSSSSPPPPPPAAAAAA. Good luck to all.
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Meathead01 Our Uncle Sam worked today at Hollywood, all weather/fast. 4F 0:48.00 Handily ..a Bullet! ....Think he is getting ready for a cruise down the Pacific Coast Highway to Del Mar? Hmmm? 'printed olegent'
bob m toga More than 1 year ago
saratoga is upon us !!! looking forward to great spa season. i am on my way up there in a few hours.. i usually get to about 22-25 live days out of the 40 ... never a bad day out in the picnic area!! will try to post 2-3 horses per day that are at least 8-1 on the morning line and i feel have a real legit shot to get their picture taken.. 1. 6th race.. #3 short shrift.. (10-1).. coming back to regular turf from the hurdles. jack fisher knows what he is doing and if the horse returns to his prior flat turf form he could definitely win here in a race without alot of talent. 2. 8th race.. #7 d'funnybone (8-1).. fun race with big field and alot of talent, however no real speed in the race? if prado gets him out and running, he could have easy 1-2 length lead and has run very well at the spa in 2009.. last yr he lost all chance in kings bishop at the start. 3. 9th race.. #4 true feelings (12-1).. taking a shot here maybe more based on the anthony dutrow/rose trainer jockey combo.. this horse circled field easily at 5f at delaware and who knows how good the rest of these are? because of the lower beyer he may get overlooked but you know he will be running down the lane and many times in these early season 2 yr old sprint stakes the races fall apart after a speed dual.. good luck to all.. cant wait til tom durkin yells "and theyre off at saratoga" tomorrow at 1 pm.
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
knm I pulled this off the Del Mar website. Hope it helps ! "PLACE PICK ALL - You win a major payoff if you pick the winners or second-place finishers of the entire card (8, 9 or 10 races). If no ticket contains the winning combination for all races, the payoff will go to the ticket with the highest number of correct selections. Minimum bet is $1.00" 'arivisho herms'
knm More than 1 year ago
SR Vegas, Thanks, it never occurred to me to go to the website, LOL. It sounds like a fun bet, wish I could try it.
SpartanTom More than 1 year ago
10c, I apologize for this as I just watch Dan & Mike's race analysis and they announced that the 8, Flashy Lassie, would be scratched.Cancel my entire wager as I used the 8 in every wager. I will repost tomorrow after final scratches. ST
blackseabass More than 1 year ago
Meathead01, answering your question why I lined out Battle School. He broke mdn for 25000 he went on a long vacation right after being claimed for 25000 & thats not a good sign. A cheap horse that breaks mdn for 25000 that is serious about winning again should be in a 12500 N2L not a 25000N2L. In the case of this particular horse maybe less. Oneal was hoping someone would pony up 25000 and give him the dough he wasted back. Meantime he had a better horse to try and win the race with $475,000 / 50,000 . Nobody fell for his bait except the players. I really don't know how he was favored, he had nothing to recommend except his rider. The main thing is if they're serious they'll cut the tag in half (like oneal did with his 6-1 shot one nation his horse that ran a race) otherwise they're just stabbing into the dark.There were 4 horses at least that broke mdn against better horses than him I believe. I know it probably sounds a little to simple but sometimes simple things work like machinery in this game. I catch lots of horses under this condition and thats how I do it. Sometimes you get 5/2or 3-1 on a horse that should be 1-1 . Its not unusual to get 5/10 -1 on solid plays that should be 2-1. Instead of saying like many do @#$# another N2L, start scanning the form for them. Same way I had Classy Bobby in the N2L last time we all went to the races together and chased after a Pic- something. LOL. You can at least get to the contenders & throw out the pretenders that way just about everytime. Was there another N2L today ? I can't remember ?
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
blackseabass makes perfect sence to me glad you clarified the reason we can all learn from this btw what put you on Isle of Prado? mh01
Steve T More than 1 year ago
Spartan Tom, I just capped the whole race - and bottom line, I think Butterfly Beach will be tough to beat, even from the 10 post: Del Mar – Race 6 – Friday (07-21-2011) #1 REDDY GO JAYLO – this three year old daughter of Redattore seems to be maturing nicely, last two were a win in her maiden and a nice place in her N1X where it was a bit too far. Cutting back to a mile, Talamo stays and the team is 29% at Del Mar. She will have to run a little faster but she has upside. #2 DIAMOND JOURNEY – not quite sure what Mitchell is up to here – he did his usual, claimed her and promptly won next out with a new lifetime Beyer of 83. She is now on turf, back at the same level (no tag), and the team remains intact. She is 10-4-2-1, and is coming into this off of two wins… Mitchell is a tough read on the why’s for placing his ponies. Turf is not his strong point (20%) but ignoring his runners is lunacy. Maybe. #3 MELBISHA – has one turf win, in a starter allowance here at Del Mar last summer, that was also the last time she hit the board. She is a tweener – ultra consistent, but just not fast enough to do more than clip the bottom of the board at this level and they won’t drop her in for a tag. Pass. #4 CEES JEWEL – lightly raced six year old mare by Cee’s Tizzy who has started a new career on the lawn. Has shown good speed on turf but has had trouble holding it together late and this is a big jump in class. Her lifetime speed figure is a modest 65 but she does have speed and her three turf races were hands down her best. She would have to progress an awful lot, and that is a bridge too far for a 6 year old mare. Pass. #5 REBECCA – her top two speed figs were the two turf sprints, winning her maiden on the hill by a widening 4 ¼ lengths and then was mauled pretty good early on in her N1X finishing 3rd. Last two works were very nice indeed, team remains intact, Machowsky is 30% with turfers, 50% with 2Sprints to Route and the team is 0/1. If Machowsky throws them out there, expect them to stick. This is a filly who will appreciate the added distance and could throw a big one here. Live. #6 MELTARIB – this homebred daughter of Muqtarib is 2-1-1-0 on turf, winning her maiden at Hollywood in a mile turf race under Chantal Sutherland. Had a decent effort in her N1X on the main track and is now back to turf with a new rider, Alonso Quinonez. Has been working well, Garcia is 10% with turfers and 18% at the class level; team is 14%. Certainly capable, but I am not wild about the rider change. #7 LAURA BEASLEY – seems a little slow to come around after her last layoff, but did make some progress. What is interesting about her is that Blanc is 6-2-1-1 on her, everyone else is 8-0-3-0. Can’t go with an off-form turfer, if she is getting better you can expect a 4th or maybe 3rd finish. Just not a big threat here. #8 WARREN’S CREAMPUFF – did a whole lot of nothing in her first three races and then they put her on the grass and she won with a sustained drive. Works have been sizzling, Gutierrez is 13% on turf and the team has a $4.38 ROI. When they jump from nothing to a win on a surface change, better take notice. Just another live filly in an even race. #9 TRIBAL BEAUTY – has three turf routes and one win, but her last she got bottled up on the rail and looked like she was ready to launch. Smith return, team is 1 for 2 at Del Mar, Cassidy is 13% on turf. If she gets s decent start she is a contender. #10 BUTTERFLY BEACH – last time the rail, this time the outside post. Don’t think it really matters because in her turf debut last out she beat them like a redheaded stepchild, drawing off to win by 5 ½. Remember a couple of months ago I warned about Gomez getting into synch with Blind Luck and that once he is in synch he is almost impossible to beat? Well here’s another one and he will take her to the front from the outside and I don’t think he will ever look back. The pick. Selections: #10 BUTTERFLY BEACH (5/2) #1 READY GO JAYLO (9/2) #5 REBECCA (5/1) Dr. Derango: I think #8 WARREN’S CREAMPUFF (20/1) is really dangerous here, that huge jump in her first turf, the post-race works, and $4.38 team all add up to a big payday in an evenly matched field.
DSully More than 1 year ago
HG I like the CD invaders and if Flashy Lassie scratches as an earlier poster stated, That leaves Force de La Nature to run down the speedy Georgie's Angel. Having no idea how Saratoga will play in this 1st day heat, I'll take a shot with a $100 Exacta on 1-9. Thanks Dan!
Annie More than 1 year ago
Actually it was better for the horses that Canterbury couldn't run during the last week and a half, because we were experiencing that terrible heat wave, day after day. We had like 91% humidity a couple of those days. It was just like a sauna. Apparently, it has moved on East, although it's supposed to get hot again this weekend. I don't envy you out East. It was brutal! Annie
Whackymacky More than 1 year ago
Happy Thursday all... Just a thought for Dan and all. If Saratoga doesn't run on Friday because of the Hot weather, can I switch the HG 243 race?? If I can, I would like to select the following: Saturday 7/23/2011 Del Mar l Race #8 l The Eddie Read Stakes l Grade 1 l Purse $300,000 l I think that they will run, but it is up to Dan and the Saratoga power's to be.... Good Luck To All. Come on Chantal!!! Whackymacky Out!!!
okiesharp More than 1 year ago
HG243 $ 5.00 Trifecta wheel 9 / 1,3,5,6,7 / 1,3,5,6,7 = $100.00
okiesharp More than 1 year ago
HG243
peter kreutzer More than 1 year ago
HG 243 $ 80 win # 6 Gypsy Robin Ward w/2yolds very impressive win at keen coming home 5/and 3 off a 44 3/5 half $ 20 exacta 6 over # 4 True feelings who closed nicely off slow fractions
HUNTER4FUN More than 1 year ago
$15 exacta 8/1/9=$90 $10 win #4=$100
Annie More than 1 year ago
OK, first day at DMR: Race 1 - B Race 2 - B Race 3 - A Race 4 - A Race 5 - B Race 6 - D Race 7 - A Race 8 - A Race 9 - A Race 10 - A It's just a fact that most races are won by A or B horses. There's no getting around it. It really does help in playing multi-race wagers. I've done it for years in So. California. The actual breakdown differs according to the odds makeup of the race, but generally: A is never higher than 9-2 B is never higher than 8-1, usually 5-1 and 6-1 C is the 10-1s and 12-1s, but sometimes the 8-1s are in there if there are alot of low odds horses in a race. D is the 15-1s and above. So, no, I wouldn't have had Chantal's horse unless I took all in that race or was taking a chance on Chantal. :) Of course, you still have to choose the right As and Bs since you can't take them all, and keep on eye out for the Cs that pop up once in awhile. Ds are just very very rare. But, it gives me a starting point and a framework, and it works for me. Annie
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
Penn National Rick "...perhaps i hold a sign that says...HG 244??? haha. " LOL! ..perhaps if you saunter past the TVG cameras in a pair of Blue Boxers and a "FORMBLOG RULES" sign you will get some 'air time', hahaha! 'schnerre therell'
gil More than 1 year ago
#7 Vukovar. Liked the 7/17 blow out for this race. She finished full of run well pass the line. $100 win #7. good luck all.
Patrick S More than 1 year ago
Well the Pick 5 was a bomb, let's try a small late Pick 4: R7: 1-2-3-4 R8: 1-3-6 R9: 2-4 R10: 1-5-10-12 Favorites haven't won as of yet, maybe the trend continues?? Like the closing #1 in the Oceanside to beat the likely favorite in Mr. Commons.
bluenote More than 1 year ago
HG 243 I'll go with $100 to win on #5 Alydaria
Whackymacky More than 1 year ago
Happy Opening Day at Del Mar... Boy was Steve T right... Jump on in, the water is fine. Hello, can you say longshot city!!! I hope that somebody is on the big ticket train... Thanks for the shout out on my win in the HG 242 last week... Thanks to Dan also. I hope that our friend Blackstone was playing Miss Kayla Stra and the Lovely Chantal Sutherland today at Del Mar!!! Did you see that #7 with Chantal charge from the clouds and win by 4 going away!!! At 18-1!!! Punch that into your replay's later tonight!!! Good luck to all the rest of the week and Good Luck in HG 243!!! Whackymacky Out!!!
Whackymacky More than 1 year ago
Checking the player's... Van Savant Looking over my notes, I see that you had a fantastic day picking the ponies... If I see thing's correctly, if you played the early Pick 5 as a 3x3x3x3x3 for 50 cents = $121.50 Your selection's of A / C / A / B / C scored to the tune of $14K for the 50 cent wager... You had 7,1,2 / 8,5,3 / 8,7,1 / 8,7,10 / 8,6,2 Pick 5 paid : 7/3/8/7/2 = $14,267.50 for 50 cents That doesn't include the rolling doubles and pick 3's!!! I hope that you had it!!! Whackymacky Out!!!
Van Savant More than 1 year ago
whacky; Thanks.... appreciate you noticing and pointing this out. I had a pretty good day overall. My handicapping was solid, and my wagering structure was as well. I didn't hit this card hard at all, in fact, the only race I seriously wagered was the 1st, and I did hit the Win and the Exacta. The rest of my plays were small action-types...a couple of bucks here and there...I played some rolling doubles, and did manage to hit two of them early (it's all in where and how you bet them...I know that you know that). I stayed away from the Pick 3's, and for that I am sorry, but I will get them next time...of that I have no doubt. I posted my meager Pick 5 play yesterday, and I went something like 4x1x3x1x1x1 for all of $6. I was out after the second, but alive to saver Daily Doubles...you know how that works... I'm still tinkering with this Pick 5 thing. It has me intrigued. I still believe that on the right day and with the right strategy, I can hit a large pot with a small-ish type play; but I like your thinking...spend the $121.50 and take down a huge pot. I agree with you...but that's just not my style. You know my philosophy..."know thyself". Sometimes I love that way of thinking, and other times...
Van Savant More than 1 year ago
Uncle Steve/MH01/Calvin/Laura/Eveyrone; Thursday and Friday’s Del Mar card look interesting enough, but discipline has a hold on me, and I therefore, will not be playing anything until Saturday. But in the meantime… I looked ahead to Saturday’s Del Mar card, and I found something that piqued my interest substantially, that being Race #5. It is the Osunitas85K carded at 8.5 furlongs on the turf. Take a look at it. It’s an interesting race, and sure to be a difficult one to unlock, but I am intrigued. The #8 – KAYCE ACE is attempting turf for the first time, and this comes off a layoff (where she won an ALWN2X in a very game effort). Trainer Harty then put her back on the sidelines where she appeared to be working normally, and then BOOM…she fired a bullet six furlong workout on July 12th (presumably with Blinkers Off). At this point, he knows he has her ready, and eschewed the end of the Hollywood meet and pointed her for this. She is by Tiznow and out of a Turkoman mare, so can it be said that she has some hidden turf influences? I don’t know, but my guess is that is the case based on some of the information I have gleaned this evening. This is a tough field, and I haven’t really handicapped the other entrants here, but I am thinking that odds of 15/1 or so are what will be offered come post time. I am anxiously awaiting this race, folks.
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Van Savant me too Ill lay off until saturday or even sunday I havnt downloaded either one as yet after yesterdays beating Im gunshy so to speak well I said after my big weekend two weekends ago that I was going to enjoy it while I could because those big days are few and far between for the most part . live to play another day my friend good luck if you play mh01
meathead01 More than 1 year ago
Van Savant R5 Osunitas 85K the way I see this one is: #3 Andina gomez up #2 Turning Point (IRE) rosario up #1 Wild Mia Flores up #7 Ninth Infantry sutherland up analysis later that is how I se it I hope this helps some mh01
gil More than 1 year ago
A little strange maybe? A firster racing at Presque Isles 2nd on 7/21 will be running for non-other than Shug. Why strange? A four year old that had 8 workouts at Belmont an then shipped to PID for msw. No Saratoga. The Phipps faviorate place to win. The price seems right 6/1. I will wait an see this time if "Hurricane Flag" with all that breeding is anything. Good luck all.
p ensign More than 1 year ago
sorry bsb, i had figures wrong, those were $1 payoffs, you only would have made $14k on the 50c ticket... never mind, no big loss
p ensign More than 1 year ago
"Anyway, because Kayla Stra was riding the horse, King went off at 8-1 making him a C. They don't win as often. But regardless of who was riding him, he was ascertained by the oddsmaker as equal to Isle of Prado. BTW, this may not work everywhere. I trust the So. Cal oddsmaker." couple of points Annie, I understand that this is a big part of your horizontal wager technique, but you should understand the purpose of the morning line. A morning line is not supposed to do anything but predict what the public will do - they do not handicap horses, they handicap bettors. He was not saying that the horse was the equal of another horse that he predicted would go off at 4-1, he was merely predicting that the public would perceive them, and therefore bet, that way. There is a huge difference here, and while your strategy seems to work for you, you should understand the underpinnings of the "data" you are using. Hard as it is to believe, it appears that Stra was the strong link in the Headley/Stra connection - her turf stats are ok, especially compared to overall, but the trainer has generally been hopeless. bsb, on your $1000 ticket you would be alive to 50% of the field for payoffs of anywhere from $4.1k to $28.5k...
Annie More than 1 year ago
P Ensign, I was waiting for someone to mention that. I do know what the morning line is SUPPOSED to be. But, I have a theory about that. I have studied the situation (So. Cal only) for many years. I was looking to see if I could see why a horse was made the favorite by the oddsmaker, for instance. After much study it became apparent that the oddsmaker uses the same concepts we as handicapper's use to compare the horses' abilities, class, speed, etc. When I began to be able to predict what the oddsmakers odds would be and they were the same or close to mine, and yet I was strictly trying to estimate the horse's chances to win NOT how the public would bet, I began to feel that it all goes hand in hand. And what are odds anyway, but the supposed chances for the horse to win if the same race was run a number of times. If an oddsmaker sets the odds for a horse at 4-1 for instance, is he only predicting that is what the public will think are the horse's chance to win out of the blue, or having looked at the past performances, doesn't he see the reasons why the public would think this? How is that any different? Anyway, of course, the odds line has to be as accurate as possible for it to be beneficial. I trust the oddsmakers in So. Cal and it has worked well for me. Look at the winners of race 2 & 3 at DMR today. If the oddsmaker was trying to predict how much the public would like King Ledley, he was wrong ((4-1 vs 8-1), but if his own perceptions of the past performances were a part of setting the odds, than he was more right than the public. Same with Classy Lion in race 3. It works for me in the multi-race wagers because in most of the races I don't absolutely need to determine the winner, just the range of most likely horses. I call them As and Bs. Then I can pick and choose from them to fill out my ticket. I look at the Cs as well and somewhat at the Ds, but the fact remains that most races are won by the As and Bs. My handy So. Cal oddsmaker just helps me do it faster. :) Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
P Ensign, One more point involving Kayla Stra's King Ledley. Why would an oddsmaker believe that a horse ridden by Kayla Stra and trained by that trainer would be bet to 4-1 by the public? Annie
Penn National Rick More than 1 year ago
HG 243. $5 Superfecta 9 with 4/7/8 with 2/4/7/8 with 2/4/7/8. Total $90. $10 Exacta 9 with 4. Love the 8. Probably will go off as fav. I like 4's race at Delaware and Rose is coming up to ride which helps. 8 is running well. 2 has upside and can be a factor. 1 has the rail and i think that could hurt her chances. Great Job Whacky winning HG 242!! Nice to see TVG picking up Penn Nationals weekend Stake races next week. I will be there...perhaps i hold a sign that says...HG 244??? haha. Good Luck to you all. Penn National Rick
keith More than 1 year ago
HG $50 ex 6/1,9 The horse ran big in an important 2 YR old stakes in Europe.
Mike O More than 1 year ago
HG 243 #3 Dorothys angel ran too good to lose two back. $100 win #3 Dorothys angel
fishky More than 1 year ago
HG@243 #5, Alydara, first time starter - the only relation to Alydar is Raise a Native in pedigree. Will take a shot anyway. #5, $100 to win
p ensign More than 1 year ago
then again, i reckon he saved hisself some $$$$...
p ensign More than 1 year ago
bsb's single looks like a million bucks walking into gate of race 2 too bad he got cheap in p-5
Patrick S More than 1 year ago
Well that P-5 was shortlived. Had 3 of the 4 in the super in the 1st, except for the winner. Saw some that posted liked the 7. Should have used what I read :)
Pig Bodine More than 1 year ago
H.G. 243 I made a mistake on my wager I need to amend my bet. $1.00 Superfecta 4,9/ 2,4,9/ 1,2,7,8/1,3,6,7,8 =$58.00 $7.00 Trifecta 4/2,8,9/2,8,9 =$42.00
Pig Bodine More than 1 year ago
H.G. 243 $1.00 Superfecta 4,9/4,9,2/1,2,7,8/1,3,6,7, $42.00 Trifecta 4/2,8,9/2,8,9
SR Vegas More than 1 year ago
HG243 The Spaaa... Whackymacky, congrats on your HG win. And Thank you for the lovely selection. Wager $100 Win #4 #4 True Feelings ML 12-1 One of the things I'm learning is to look how a horse does in the works prior to and after their races and looking for a BSF improvement. Her works are better after her win on 6/27. Comment line, 'good energy' could indicate she'll like the added distance and BSF 54, with a progression could land her in here. These just jumped out at me, before I saw the Trainer and Jockey stats. Which are really good. A case could be made for many here, especially those who won impressively last out, like #7 Vukovar and #9 Georgies Angel, but I'll stick here. Good Luck, and Thanks for the $$ Dan! 'ritectil map'
Taz More than 1 year ago
hg - $50 ex box 1-7 taz
Annie More than 1 year ago
Ooh! Race 2 was a good example of why I break them down A,B,C,D according to morning line odds. The winner, King Ledley, was 4-1 in the morning line odds, the same as Isle of Prado. Both horses would have been Bs in this race. Remember, most races are won by As or Bs. Anyway, because Kayla Stra was riding the horse, King went off at 8-1 making him a C. They don't win as often. But regardless of who was riding him, he was ascertained by the oddsmaker as equal to Isle of Prado. BTW, this may not work everywhere. I trust the So. Cal oddsmaker. So, by morning line odds, the first two races were won by Bs. :) DRF feed did not work well for me. It was fine until shortly before race. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Race 3 - There's another one - oddsmaker said Classy Lion is 4-1, the bettors said no, 6-1. Difference again, should have been an A horse in that race, 6-1 would have made it a B. So far: R1 - B R2 - B R3 - A Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Geez, I was looking at the wrong race description. Chantal just won a sprint on the main. I must be tired, and I didn't even play today or handicap. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Oops, I guess Chantal did ride in those two previous turf races, so I guess it's 33% wins. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Race 4 - another A. That makes two As and 2 Bs by morning line odds. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Race 5 - another B. I don't care that she went off at 10-1, morning line was 6-1. That's a B. Again probably because Quinonez was on, didn't get bet. That makes 2 As and 3 Bs for the first Pikc 5. Any A or B horse is dangerous. Anxious to see what it paid. Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Ooh! $14,265.50! Anybody get it? Annie
Annie More than 1 year ago
Race 6 - OK, this was definitely a big longshot (D horse) either by morning line or wagering. Good thing he wasn't in the Pick 5. They do win once in awhile, but rarely. However, it was the lovely Chantal working her magic. LOL Hmm, I wonder if Whacky bet her. BTW, now you know how Chantal rides on turf at DMR. 100%wins. :) Annie
Calvin L. Carter More than 1 year ago
Leading Irish Flat trainer Aidan O’Brien will send the Twinspires 3-5 morning line favorite Tenth Star and Vault (12-1) to the post tomorrow of the 7-furlong, $64,000 Korean Racing Authority Tyros Stakes (Group 3) at Leopardstown Racecourse. http://classicchampionthoroughbreds.blogspot.com/2011/07/tyros-stakes-racing-roundup.html
Annie More than 1 year ago
HOORAY!!!!!!! Canterbury will be up and running on Thursday and so will I. :) :) :) CAPTCHA: Tonnes orneckl Well, if he had anything to do with getting racing back, then I thank him. Annie
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
HG243 $100 cold exacta 9/8 thx 10c gl VQ
Virgin Queen More than 1 year ago
HG243 $100 cold exacta 9/8...$100 thx 10c gl VQ
Patrick S More than 1 year ago
Just saw Baffert swapped his riders in the 7th today. Should we take anything away from this? Garcia had been riding the 1-Queenie Marini (who won last out), but he puts Rosario on instead. Interesting.
keith More than 1 year ago
Don't read too much into it. This is an ownership group run by Bob Baedeker, a So Cal Handicapper. The first horse they claimed won the first 2-3 times they ran it, with Baffert training, Garcia in the Saddle. Horses name was Sassy ???, running Thurs or Friday. The point is this may be an owners request.
MikeMcA More than 1 year ago
HG243(Schuylerville)Going to take a shot with 4-True Feelings at 12-1.Looks to have to improve a lot to compete with the top contenders in here but she exploded in the stretch in her 1st race and I think the extra furlong should be right up her alley. $100 Win--4
Tom P. More than 1 year ago
Glad to see I cashed on $5,000 claimers last week! Looking to cash two in a row. I'll play: HG 243: $50 Exacta Box 6-9 --- #6 Gypsy Robin impressed on Keeneland's surface and then only finished three and a half back in a Group 2 over in England. Despite winning on poly, I do not believe turf is her surface at all. She's breezing well enough on dirt for me not to just play Georgie's Angel over parts of the field. The kick on the lead at Keeneland has me watching big time. #9 Georgie's Angel got a big fig for a good race over Churchill's dirt course. I have no fear about the extra distance for her considering her pedigree (My main concern for these 2 year olds stretching out to even 5.5f). Connections are making an obvious choice up the class ladder. Even if she doesn't improve at all in her second race, she's dangerous. Good luck, everyone! Tom P.
DailyDub More than 1 year ago
HG243 $4 Tri 2,9 / 2,9 / 1,4,5,6 $32 $4 Tri 2,9 / 1,4,5,6 / 2,9 $32 $4 Tri 1,4,5,6 / 2,9 / 2,9 $32 $1 Tri 9 / 2 / 1,4,5,6 $4 FYI : #8 Flashy Lassie trainer Garry Simms has announced he will scratch this horse. #9 Georgie's Angel comes off the impressive special weight win by 6 1/4 at CD and Pletcher/Velazquez continue to get it done in graded races. #2 Five Star Momma comes off the G3 second by 1 to the #8 Flashy Lassie, looks like it can improve quite a bit off that effort #1 Force de La Nature closed well last out caught 4 wide in the stretch, good CD works #4 True Feelings faces tough competition after a special weight win at Delaware Park where it has had some nice works. Dutrow is very good at these conditions. #5 Alydarla 1st start against a vulnerable bunch, she has the best SAR works amongst these #6 Gypsy Robin drops from a Grade 2 at Ascot on the turf and loved the poly at Keeneland first time out, the question will be how it handles the SAR dirt and heat. Thanks to everyone for posting all the great statistics for Del Mar. It should be a fantastic 37 days of surf and turf racing. To expand just a little on the sires info, here is a list of the sires with more than 2 wins at Del Mar in 2010 pulled from our database. Sire 2010 Dmr Wins Candy Ride 10 In Excess 8 Unusual Heat 7 Benchmark 5 Bertrando 5 Cee's Tizzy 5 Malibu Moon 5 Swiss Yodeler 5 High Brite 4 Northern Afleet 4 Tale Of The Cat 4 Affirmative 3 Aldebaran 3 Devil His Due 3 Even the Score 3 Forest Camp 3 Ghostzapper 3 Golden Missile 3 Johannesburg 3 Lucky Pulpit 3 Muqtarib 3 Rio Verde 3 Royal Academy 3 Stormy Atlantic 3 Tapit 3 Dan "Like Zenyatta, she employs an exciting come-from-behind style that thrills her fans and gives her backers some anxious moments. Besides her obvious talent, Blind Luck's class and courage are what separates her from the rest. She, seemingly, refuses to yield when in a dogfight." That pretty much says it all about Blind Luck, she most resembles the queen, you can almost see it when you watch her chase em down, she just never quits and no matter who she's up against I always get the feeling she can catch them and take them right down to the wire. They should consider her for the BC Classic against the boys, she has as good a chance as any and runs very well in Kentucky besides everywhere else she's been on her 18 month tour of the country. I would love to hear your thoughts on where she should be come breeders cup time. Also, fantastic handicapping the past few weeks. I think we are all looking forward to your selections for this weekend. Best of luck to all - Ddub
Pippen0707 More than 1 year ago
HG 243 #5 Alydarla... 1st time starter in this contentious stakes race, working great and Chapman has done this before with two year olds. $50 WP #5
gerry v. More than 1 year ago
HG243 Just read that #8 will scratch ;no longer sure of program #'s.My bet is $100 to win on Georgies Angel
Annie More than 1 year ago
Dan, We forgive you for not keeping the disabled list up to date. We realize that you have a lot more responsibilities than you had back when you started that. Hopefully, the pay has gone up as well. :) Thanks for continuing to host us here on Formblog, even though some of us (not me, of course) can be troublesome at times. Annie
gerry v More than 1 year ago
HG243 $100 win #9 best figs
David H. More than 1 year ago
Dan, Thanks for Big Drama's PPs. That 120 in January is just awesome. He ran the last 8th in :12 flat. I know it's a speed favoring surface over at GP, but still ... Thanks! David H.
Annie More than 1 year ago
Yup, I just saw the DMR entries for Sat. And I already have some ideas. :) Therefore I have decided to just watch Wed, Thurs and Fri and be well prepared for Sat. As Steve T so aptly put it, it can be like jumping off a cliff if one isn't careful. :) Hey guys, try and build that Pick 5 up for me, will you? Just joking, I wish all of you good luck today and the other days you play. I'm really not that greedy. :) Annie